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Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Kobojunkie: 10:26pm On Nov 09, 2024
7upnigeria:
■ I don't think private school in Nigeria allows their teachers to form ANY UNION.
They do not allow in what way? Are teachers made to sign agreements that they wouldn't join unions while in their employment? undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by MIKOLOWISKA: 11:22pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.
You think you will collect money for free like govt teachers?
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Bigdan411: 11:26pm On Nov 09, 2024
@ Allotrope69 Do you have a computer and good internet access?
I would like to engage your services for my children's private mathematics lesson- danielbig410@gmail.com
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Bigdan411: 11:28pm On Nov 09, 2024
Allotrope69:
@ Allotrope69 Do you have a computer and good internet access?
I would like to engage your services for my children's private mathematics lesson- danielbig410@gmail.com
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by YoungBlackRico(m): 1:18am On Nov 10, 2024
Wether private or public, leave teaching job. Especially if you're a young adult just starting life.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by VinnyBaba: 1:29am On Nov 10, 2024
YoungBlackRico:
Wether private or public, leave teaching job. Especially if you're a young adult just starting life.
Teaching is NOT as bad as some here are trying to paint it. smiley

For a Guy, I think You Just need discipline and proper direction to make something out of it.

I know someone who used Teaching Job earnings to open CyberCafe.
I also know someone who used to earn close to 120K every month as a teacher (Had 2 lessons that paid him 40k per month).

Dat's almost same salary Range with Bankers. smiley

The thing is that no Teacher should teach for more than 5,7yrs.
Teach, Save some Money and move to a BETTER profession or Hustle, Instead of Expecting Milk and Honey and complaining Bitterly like the OP of this thread. undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by VinnyBaba: 2:19am On Nov 10, 2024
Bigdan411:
@ Allotrope69 Do you have a computer and good internet access?
I would like to engage your services for my children's private mathematics lesson- danielbig410@gmail.com
You BETTER not engage his services.😏

He is a Thief and a Beggar.

Using FALSE PRETENSES to Beg. undecided

If you really Need a Mathematics teacher, I can link you up to one. sad

Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Trophy12: 5:28am On Nov 10, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Do you know what you just taught the child you felt you were correcting? It is that if he was in position of power over the other, it becomes OK to use violence against/abuse the other child.

Look at Nigeria today..Oga/madam dey slap gateman, driver, employee...Politicians dey slap and belittle ordinary citizens...husbands dey beat their wives..wives dey torture house helps...Police dey beat, torture and even shoot people wey dem no like...😩

Everyone is has literally made it their place to take out their angst against others in a violent way. Teachers, una do well as una handiwork dey everywhere.🙄
u still never understand me , I said two students where fighting amd i flogged them . Can't I tell correct again and discourage them from fighting? Haba so I should just pamper them . This is Africa no America . U no how many times then flog me for school back then. Besides I just gave the kid a single stroke of cane not two.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Kobojunkie: 6:08am On Nov 10, 2024
Trophy12:
■ u still never understand me , I said two students where fighting amd i flogged them . Can't I tell correct again and discourage them from fighting?
■ Haba so I should just pamper them .
■ This is Africa no America . U no how many times then flog me for school back then. Besides I just gave the kid a single stroke of cane not two.
What does flogging have to do with discouraging people from fighting? Really think carefully about it. How does inflicting violence against two people go on to teach them that violence is wrong? Don't you see the upside logic to what you claim? undecided

2. So, in your mind, not using violence is akin to pampering them? Are you for real? undecided

3. You mean the same Africa, abi na Nigeria, where to this day, life remains a dog-eat-dog existence where over 150 million grown adults, many of them elderly and exposed to violence of flogging since their children are incapable of raising their fists against the minority pigs who pillage and destroy their collective inheritance? that Nigeria is the Nigeria you wish to see continued by your actions? Are you alright at all? undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by 7upnigeria: 7:21am On Nov 10, 2024
Kobojunkie:
They do not allow in what way? Are teachers made to sign agreements that they wouldn't join unions while in their employment? undecided
Same teacher that can be relieved of his duties if he's not following management instructions. Its not like govt work where you're guaranteed 35 years of service
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 10:12am On Nov 10, 2024
And what is private practice pls?
thatigboman:
I think it means Private Practice
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 10:16am On Nov 10, 2024
I did not understand dis ur post.

I asked you a simple question. How will the child get his primary and secondary school certificate if he is taught at home?
sprints1:
by the way where the jobs the useless #50-300k jobs in Nigeria that can barely feed you same goes for abroad their is better cuz you wont owe and at the same time you wont grow they don't need it the best form of learning is student-centered certificates are for validation to seek approval by the government. I learnt most of tye things I know myself when I was in school I was using three separates textbooks for physics and Biology. I used nelson and parker, Abbot, PN Okeke. I learnt some stuffs myself when I got to SS2 my physics teacher left and the school brought in an incompetent HND teacher who had not idea of what she is teaching. Break free we do not need the government to survive. A child can learn on their own.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 10:20am On Nov 10, 2024
You said they should not go to schools but be taught at home.
So i asked you, how will they get their primary and secondary school certificates. And you are telling me to ask goggle. Cant you drop a hint or insight about it here?
You simply do not know what you saying. No idea.
mikkyangel3:
Google is your friend
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 10:24am On Nov 10, 2024
Okay.
You talked about the dropout who studied at home and proceeded to write the exam. If he did not enroll, can he take the exam?

So you will not register for SAT, TOEFL, GRE, before taking their exams?
Kobojunkie:
In most countries today, a dropout, for instance, can study at home, take the major exam, and get his certificate mailed to him without having to go through any school. Many of the common exams the world over do not require you to register through a school... SAT, TOEFL, GRE, CLT, etc. undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Great0ne1: 12:28pm On Nov 10, 2024
illicit:
Let the mother flog her

It's not my job to beat people

Beat ur child at home, don't give me your rotten kids, I don't beat people
Yes, you have a point. Is mainly the job of the parents to beat there kids when they misbehave
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by illicit(m): 12:40pm On Nov 10, 2024
Great0ne1:
Yes, you have a point. Is mainly the job of the parents to beat there kids when they misbehave
Thank you very much for understanding


That's all I have been trying to say, why domwe expect teachers to beat kids, parents can actually turn everything against you.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by mechanics(m): 1:03pm On Nov 10, 2024
Just keep on enduring, you will have your own school by God's grace.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Kobojunkie: 1:20pm On Nov 10, 2024
Love800:
Okay.
You talked about the dropout who studied at home and proceeded to write the exam. If he did not enroll, can he take the exam?

So you will not register for SAT, TOEFL, GRE, before taking their exams?
🤔
Kobojunkie:
In most countries today, a dropout, for instance, can study at home, take the major exam, and get his certificate mailed to him without having to go through any school. Many of the common exams the world over do not require you to register through a school... SAT, TOEFL, GRE, CLT, etc. undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 1:31pm On Nov 10, 2024
Am talking about the fundamental schools(primary and secondary), and not SAT etc.

If you did not register your child in a school, how will he get his o'level and ssce certificates?
Kobojunkie:
🤔
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Kobojunkie: 1:41pm On Nov 10, 2024
Love800:
Am talking about the fundamental schools(primary and secondary), and not SAT etc.

If you did not register your child in a school, how will he get his o'level and ssce certificates?
For that you would need to contact the board in charge of that exam for details. The exam is there to verify that one meets the necessary intelligence level for consideration for high school graduation and not that one attended a particular school so I would think that that too would not require a student to register through a school.(In a country with the World's highest out-of-school children count, this ought to be a no brainer but sadly this is Nigeria we are talking after all ) Anyways, you would need to contact the agency that administers SSCE to verify those details. undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 1:46pm On Nov 10, 2024
Okay, fine. I understood this one. Great write-up.
I appreciate!
Kobojunkie:
For that you would need to contact the board in charge of that exam for details. The exam is there to verify that one meets the necessary intelligence level for consideration for high school graduation and not that one attended a particular school so I would think that that too would not require a student to register through a school.(In a country with the World's highest out-of-school children count, this ought to be a no brainer but sadly this is Nigeria we are talking after all ) Anyways, you would need to contact the agency that administers SSCE to verify those details. undecided
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by sprints1: 2:30pm On Nov 10, 2024
Love800:
I did not understand dis ur post.

I asked you a simple question. How will the child get his primary and secondary school certificate if he is taught at home?
you are still blinded by the system if you are keen on the certicificate child should be enrolled into jelosimi school. I have seen kids pay another school and the child writes exam and gets degree. Primary certificate is useless
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 3:31pm On Nov 10, 2024
I seriously dont understand your write-up. Is it that you find it difficult to construct words well? Am not mocking you. But i find it crazy to relate to your voice. Because of this, i can't give you a response.
Thanks.
sprints1:
you are still blinded by the system if you are keen on the certicificate child should be enrolled into jelosimi school. I have seen kids pay another school and the child writes exam and gets degree. Primary certificate is useless
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Donaldoni: 7:08pm On Nov 10, 2024
Kobojunkie:
The problem here is you folks don't answer questions when asked and you fail when asked to reason things critically....

► Stealing is a legal offense. So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case? undecided
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case? undecided
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case? undecided

Legal offenses such as the ones listed above are NOT for the school to handle. Your principal, by law, does not have the right to take it upon himself to handle the third case at all. He can attempt to handle the first ONLY IF his parents have permitted him to do so. Otherwise, he could be charged to court by the parents and that would not bode well for him or his school. As for the second and third cases, the school is required by law to inform the parents and get the authorities involved as the law is clear on the above crimes. undecided

4. Now you are just talking jargon at this point! The Law in Nigeria is pretty clear on what must take place in any of the cases you noted above. But you seem to disagree with the law here suggesting instead that somehow your teachers should take the law into their own hands to prosecute the cases without the guardian being notified before what has taken place. And we wonder why many Nigerians don't know or follow their law nor know their left from their right as far as the law of the land is concerned. undecided
Your head is not correct at all! You are just yarning dust!!

There are always layers to punishment.

The school administers the first layer before handing over to the next layers depending on the severity of the case.

I will take any school up that doesn't punish any student who attempts to or bullies my child. I have no business with the offending student or their parents.

The school MUST punish the wrongdoing!
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 7:28pm On Nov 10, 2024
mechanics:
Just keep on enduring, you will have your own school by God's grace.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by writeprof(m): 8:46pm On Nov 10, 2024
Love800:
What is PP?
Private Practice= Becoming a private teacher to students. IF God helps you, it will be a BYE BYE to full time job.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by BluntCrazeMan: 4:37am On Nov 11, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Technically, the child should not be the one collecting his own record from each of the teachers. So you teachers along with your proprietor should come up with a more efficient and effective way of sharing records without having the kids do it for themselves. undecided
You said what I had in mind.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Nicoddemus(m): 7:16am On Nov 11, 2024
Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.
Did I hear you said you have taught in nine schools with a poor salary?
youre just a mediocre, with low self exteem and mental laziness. watch it else youll die poor.

I dont think you love teaching more than i do. the day i went for teaching interview after my graduation I thought from physics to chemistry into biology with its relationship to mathematics that the owner of the school had to suspend protocols. He gave me automatic employment there and then with salary higher than the oldest teacher.

but when I started and saw the realities about teaching inspite of the privileges i enjoyed i resigned after just one term. the school nearly ran mad but it did not deter me.

I rolled up my sleeve and started hustling. the first week i stared my own little business i made my whole salary in a month sad
today i can pay all those teachers salary with my one man business angry
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Allotrope69(op): 7:50am On Nov 11, 2024
Nicoddemus:
Did I hear you said you have taught in nine schools with a poor salary?
youre just a mediocre, with low self exteem and mental laziness. watch it else youll die poor.

I dont think you love teaching more than i do. the day i went for teaching interview after my graduation I thought from physics to chemistry into biology with its relationship to mathematics that the owner of the school had to suspend protocols. He gave me automatic employment there and then with salary higher than the oldest teacher.

but when I started and saw the realities about teaching inspite of the privileges i enjoyed i resigned after just one term. the school nearly ran mad but it did not deter me.

I rolled up my sleeve and started hustling. the first week i stared my own little business i made my whole salary in a month sad
today i can pay all those teachers salary with my one man business angry
You would have made a lot of sense in this comment, but you started your comment like a fool
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by Love800(m): 4:49pm On Nov 11, 2024
What will i do with this PP?
writeprof:
Private Practice= Becoming a private teacher to students. IF God helps you, it will be a BYE BYE to full time job.
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by sprints1: 5:02pm On Nov 11, 2024
Love800:
I seriously dont understand your write-up. Is it that you find it difficult to construct words well? Am not mocking you. But i find it crazy to relate to your voice. Because of this, i can't give you a response.
Thanks.
well, I find it hard to keep explaining in details why the system is a failure. I don't know why in this age of civilization people are still eager to get a degree. We have passed that era if you don't know you are on your own. Basically, everything is on the internet for us to consume. We can virtually learn farming and other skills via the web. I can see you love the rat race continue in your delusion. Time will tell. The system you such much sacrifice your energy for will never save you
Re: Why Are Private Schools Like This? by DonroxyII: 6:34pm On Nov 11, 2024
Allotrope69:
Amen. Thanks
School na Business...
You want someone who hasn't recoup her investment to be disciplining over indulged student....

Na she wants Money 💰 & she goes for the money not the student !
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