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| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 12:36pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:A shadow is nothing. Another object just blocks light from a surface and you call that blocked part a shadow. It really is just teh same surface in lesser light. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 12:38pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Is it funny that you have so far refused to explain what you mean by lesser light. I ask again, what is lesser light? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 12:39pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:I have explained as much as I can. I cant go further than this. The best I can give you is to say that what you see with VR, is light. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 12:41pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:But come on, that is obvious, haba. That's why I dont explain it. You stand between a source of light and a wall, your shadow appears on the wall. All you are seeing is the portion of the wall your body is blocking. You are just seeing that portion of the wall in lesser light since your body has blocked most of the light from falling on it. It is very tiresome that you make me have to write this. All that is there is the wall. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 1:22pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:What is the difference between shadow is nothing and shadow is immaterial? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 1:23pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Of course you see light but that's not all VR is. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 1:25pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:It's not obvious to me. The occlusion of light is not lesser light, it's the absence of light. I have never heard anybody apart from you describe shadow as lesser light. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 1:37pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:It can be absence of light or lesser light. Not all shadows are of the same "darkness" - you know this surely. There could be other light sources than the source which is blocked and thus casting the shadow, and some light can still filer onto the blocked surface anyway. God, I cant believe you are making me write these things. It feels like having to explain that "the earth goes round the sun." |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 1:38pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:Immaterial things actually exist. A shadow is not a thing of itself. You are at all times looking at a surface - which is the thing. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 1:39pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:I think you are conflating the machinery behind a VR projection with the actual VR you see. I am saying that the VR you see is light. Its like conflating a projected image cast from a projector with the projector itself. The projected image is light. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 2:32pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Nope, I am not. The VR construct is independent of the projection. The VR environment you are seeing is NOT MADE OF LIGHT. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 2:33pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:When you say they actually exist, in what manner do they exist? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 2:36pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:No one has disputed any of this. The reasons some shadows are darker than others is because of the scattering of light, no issuse. You on the other hand are saying the shadow does not exist. That is impossible since we are seeing it. You are just dancing around what I have not disputed. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by Dtruthspeaker: 2:46pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:Do you not see the threads of "who remembers these things?" https://www.nairaland.com/2383555/remember-childhood-thing#34823537 |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 3:10pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:What is it made of? Pixels, which emit light, is the best answer you can get even with research (I researched the question). And the emitted light is incontrovertibly what you see. Now what is a pixel? A pixel, short for "picture element," is the smallest unit of a digital image or display. It's essentially a tiny square or dot that represents a single point of color. When combined with other pixels, they form the images we see on screens, such as computer monitors, smartphones, and televisions. I culled that from Google Gemini. "A single point of color." And what is a single point of color if not an iteration of light? You are just going round in circles. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 3:45pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker:Your childhood nostalgia is what you refer to ? C'mon. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by Dtruthspeaker: 4:07pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:It would not be good old days if it was not my childhood. Of which it was still good till 2010 when all this shits you know began till the point thatI children like you can not get married and take care of your wife without her working. That is clearly a disaster for your generation |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 4:11pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker:Lol. It was still good in 2010 ? The last I can think back and say that things were much better was 1982, when 30 cups of garri was N1. Then the devil sent Buhari on his first MISSIONLESS journey , and the rest is history. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 4:17pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Yes, immaterial things like radio waves, energy, basically, electromagnetic energy. But, as immaterial as they are , we have instruments to generate, convert, measure and transmit them. Spirits, on the hand, have never been observed, measured, calibrated, etc. You accept their existence by faith, and only faith. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by Dtruthspeaker: 4:18pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:And many of us where Peak milk, and cornflakes babies. God punish Buhari and Tinubu times 16 |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 4:40pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:I accept the existence of my spirit based on subjective experience primarily, because I subjectively experience and live it. This is not an experience that can be shared with anyone, as no one else experiences my life but me. This has nothing to do with faith - it is as real as what I live and observe daily - but, being subjective, cannot be shared, anymore than I can prove to you what I am thinking or what I dreamt last night. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 4:43pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
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| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by LordReed(m): 4:43pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:You are the one going round in circles. I said it several times the light is being selectively blocked, and in the case of a an LCD it is blocked by individual pixels. The signals change the intensity of the blockage which is what causes the colour's to change. You aren't simply seeing light, you seeing it coming through a medium and that blockage is what creates images. If light passes through a coloured semi permeable object the shadow formed will take on the colour of the object. It is those coloured shadows you are seeing. And according to you a shadow is nothing so why is this hard for you? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 4:51pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Subjective experiences are not trustworthy. Everyone has a different interpretation of the same experience. Even chemical substances can shape or affect your subjective experience. Likewise, religious experience is a subjective experience, not different from substance induced experiences. Therefore, the scientific method, scientific rationalism remains the pre-eminent arbiter of our reality. Agree ? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 4:58pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:Science is limited to the physical, so I cant agree. Subjective experiences can be valid, they just may be impossible or hard to share or communicate. Surely you would not say the fact that you cannot prove what you dreamt last night means that you didnt dream it. Or the fact that you cannot prove what you are thinking in your head at a given moment means you did not think it. Or the fact that you cannot prove you are in love with Ekaete means you are not in love with her. Those are subjective but perfectly real. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 5:00pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
LordReed:I think we have exhausted this topic. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by Versitee: 5:35pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
Captain4Jehovah:You are a big fool. You don't have something to say, you just want to say something. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by Captain4Jehovah(m): 6:22pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
Versitee:I wouldn't argue your conclusion about my person because I can in no way be wiser than the Lord who bought me with his precious blood_he is infinite, and I am finite JUST AS YOU ARE! Anyway, the fact stands that THERE IS POWER IN SPOKEN WORDS BE IT NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE REGARDLESS OF MAN'S POSITION, FAITH DESCRIPTION AND TRIBES. Our fathers taught us to be cautious of what we say. They taught us precautionary measures regarding the impact of words spoken. You know they came before us! And as such, we shouldn't be unschooled children! This is enough to tell us that prayers get answered. Our leaders are the ones frustrating and making it as though prayers are not answered. Again, God gives us wisdom to think about how to make our,man's government works. Then, what's more do we, greedy and unrepentant fellows from below want from the Eternal God? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 6:53pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:Dreams have been proven to occur, because neural signatures for dreaming, thinking and feelings of love are unique and scientifically identifiable. Like I said before, even the Religious experience, an experience often falsely relegated to the realm of the spiritual, is now not only mapable in the brain, but itself subject to manipulation by chemical substances. At the end of the day, measurable biochemical activity is responsible for subjective experiences we falsely deemed 'spiritual'. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by DeepSight(m): 6:54pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
plaetton:Are you saying that before science proved dreams occur, dreams were not real experiences? What about thoughts and your love for Ekaete? Does science need to validate them for them to be real? |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by plaetton(op): 8:06pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:No. Science only showed that biochemical activity produces these experiences. |
| Re: God Does Not Exist: Nigeria Is The Best Proof by triplechoice(m): 8:35pm On Nov 11, 2024 |
DeepSight:It wasn't Lordreed but the person behind the moniker, killyaself, that declared "the something close to it". I remember him saying something like, writing ones thoughts on paper is proof that it's material and tangible. The same person is also behind,the knownunkown, moniker . |
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