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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:30pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
How is YPG now PKK??
This are two distinct organisations.

Nato and the US and the European Union designated PKk a terrorist group. The YPG is not designated as terrorist group.

And the YPG is a different oraginszation from the PKK, although they share a common enemy in Turkey, and they both have kurdish origins. Both are two very different and distinct groups.

Only turkey view the YPG as a terrorist organisation due to its struggle for independence in the kurdish autonomous region.

Dude I don't have time to agure with you,
Don't quote me with your ludicrous nonsense.

Abeg shift
The PYD/YPG is a wholly integrated component of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), an insurgent organisation originating in Turkey that many Western states, including Britain, recognise as a terrorist organisation, as does the European Union and NATO

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/83715/html/

The YPG is heavily influenced by the ideas of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who has been in jail in Turkey since 1999, convicted of treason.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-syrian-kurdish-ypg-2023-10-05/

You're the same guy who claims Mandela was a peaceful activist like Gandhi grin

Why is there a trend of people running away from me on this thread...first Gbadebo, now you

There's no hiding place from the truth
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 5:39pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
The PYD/YPG is a wholly integrated component of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), an insurgent organisation originating in Turkey that many Western states, including Britain, recognise as a terrorist organisation, as does the European Union and NATO

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/83715/html/

The YPG is heavily influenced by the ideas of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who has been in jail in Turkey since 1999, convicted of treason.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-syrian-kurdish-ypg-2023-10-05/

You're the same guy who claims Mandela was a peaceful activist like Gandhi grin

Why is there a trend of people running away from me on this thread...first Gbadebo, now you

There's no hiding place from the truth
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces


That the Wikipedia of the origin of the YPG and it's structure and combat history.


The YPG is not designated a terrorist group ooooo
The YPG is a different group from the PKK

Who's running from you, I ain't have the time for unprofitable nonsense with you or any other clown.

If the YPG is not a different oraginszation entirely, why does Turkey and Qatar the only nations to desginate it a terror group, why not lumped it together as the PKK.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:47pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Defense_Units

That the Wikipedia of the origin of the YPG and it's structure and combat history.


The YPG is not designated a terrorist group ooooo

The YPG is a different group from the PKK

Who's running from you, I ain't have the time for unprofitable nonsense with you or any other clown.

If the YPG is not a different oraginszation entirely, why does Turkey and Qatar the only nations to desginate it a terror group, why not lumped it together as the PKK
I don't understand this English, paraphrase

The West's support for YPG has been a source of tension with Turkiye for years...the West not designating it a terrorist group, goes to show the innate hypocrisy they're known for

Collaborating with the YPG(PKK) in Syria will serve their interest, so they're 'good guys'. It's the same way Taliban were good against the Soviets, but evil against US and NATO

A group inspired by the ideas of the founder of a terrorist group (PKK), itself isn't a terror group...spot the irony

It's like saying Al-qaeda is a terror group but ISIS isn't, yet they're both inspired by Al-qaeda's founders

The pretense of them being 'democratic' was the US' idea to pass them off as sharing the same 'values' with the West. Just a smokescreen
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:03pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
I don't understand this English, paraphrase

The West's support for YPG has been a source of tension with Turkiye for years...the West not designating it a terrorist group, goes to show the innate hypocrisy they're known for

Collaborating with the YPG(PKK) in Syria will serve their interest, so they're 'good guys'. It's the same way Taliban were good against the Soviets, but evil against US and NATO

A group inspired by the ideas of the founder of a terrorist group (PKK), itself isn't a terror group...spot the irony

It's like saying Al-qaeda is a terror group but ISIS isn't, yet they're both inspired by Al-qaeda's founders
Oga shift abeg, stop running In circles, during the hay days of the Syria civil war, Russia was in bed with the YPG you can verify that.

Why has Russia not designated YPG a terrorist group??

The YPG and the PKk like i said are both kurdish in origin The PKk on the Turkish side why the YPG on the Syrian side. Both groups share similar goals. And that is the independence of kurdish people In both Syria and turkey. They are not the same group. And both have distinct ideologies and operates mostly in different theaters. The YPG in Syria and The PKk in Turkey.

The YPG has never carried attacks against civilians, something your beloved hamas and hazebolla can't deny.

ANTI WEST COUNTRIES, like Iran, China, etc have not designated the YPG a terrorist group.


This is my last take on the issue.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 6:14pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
Oga shift abeg, stop running In circles, during the hay days of the Syria civil war, Russia was in bed with the YPG you can verify that.

Why has Russia not designated YPG a terrorist group??

The YPG and the PKk like i said are both kurdish in origin The PKk on the Turkish side why the YPG on the Syrian side. Both groups share similar goals. And that is the independence of kurdish people In both Syria and turkey. They are not the same group. And both have distinct ideologies and operates mostly in different theaters. The YPG in Syria and The PKk in Turkey.

The YPG has never carried attacks against civilians, something your beloved hamas and hazebolla can't deny.

ANTI WEST COUNTRIES, like Iran, China, etc have not designated the YPG a terrorist group.


This is my last take on the issue.
Why would Russia designate them a terror group when YPG has a history of collaborating with Assad's army?

You apparently don't know the meaning of them being inspired by the ideas of PKK's founder

For your information, YPG like PKK uses suicide bombings in civilian areas, how you want to pass lies that they don't kill civilians is nonsense

It's best you not only not respond, but avoid discussions on YPG on this thread henceforth, because your knowledge is bullshit
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:29pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Why would Russia designate them a terror group when YPG has a history of collaborating with Assad's army?

You apparently don't know the meaning of them being inspired by the ideas of PKK's founder

For your information, YPG like PKK uses suicide bombings in civilian areas, how you want to pass lies that they don't kill civilians is nonsense

It's best you not only not respond, but avoid discussions on YPG on this thread henceforth, because your knowledge is bullshit
This is why I never wanted to get attached to the conversation, it clearly obvious am making a conversation with someone who does not even know what he is deliberating about.

You have been running in circles man!!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆.

There is simply no evidence or information of the YPG attacking civilians.

Going by your logic, why are you now lamenting about the YPG and the US military aid, when your darling Russia was also in bed with them.


Brighest bulbs indeed
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI:
obedience4:
This is why I never wanted to get attached to the conversation, it clearly obvious am making a conversation with someone who does not even know what he is deliberating about.

You have been running in circles man!!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆.

There is simply no evidence or information of the YPG attacking civilians.

Going by your logic, why are you now lamenting about the YPG and the US military aid, when your darling Russia was also in bed with them.


Brighest bulbs indeed
Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings?

Who's lamenting about US aid to the YPG? I rebutted your claim of them not being terrorists because "they don't attack civilians like Hamas or Hezbollah", your words exactly

The fact that you're questioning why I'd criticize US' relationship with them because of Russia's stance on them, makes me question why you'd use the same Russia you so castigate as a standard and benchmark for US' actions

Moreover, look at my username well, I'm not a USA vs Russia guy, I'm a stand on facts guy
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:55pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings?

Who's lamenting about US aid to the YPG, I rebutted your claim of them not being terrorists because "they don't attack civilians like Hamas or Hezbollah", your words exactly

The fact that you're questioning why I'd criticize US' relationship with them because of Russia's stance on them, makes me question why you'd use the same Russia you so castigate as a standard and benchmark of for US' actions

Moreover, look at my username well, I'm not a USA vs Russia guy, I'm a stand on facts guy
Prove to me the YPG using suicide bombings against civilians

I don't want to see PKk, just YPG conducting suicide bombings. And no Turkish propaganda please
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:08pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
Prove to me the YPG using suicide bombings against civilians

I don't want to see PKk, just YPG conducting suicide bombings. And no Turkish propaganda please
Do you deny they use suicide bombings? And are suicide bombings now acceptable?

Answer those first
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:15pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Do you deny they use suicide bombings? And are suicide bombings now acceptable?

Answer those first
The YPG do not attack civilians.

Bring your evidence
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:17pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
The YPG do not attack civilians.

Bring your evidence
Why are you sidestepping my questions?

They're not hard to answer

Do you deny they use suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:26pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Why are you sidestepping my questions?

They're not hard to answer

Do you deny they use suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?
Bring your evidence.

Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??

THE JAPANESE USED SUICIDE BOMBINGS (kamikaze) AGAINST THE ALLIES

Brings your evidence that YPG are attacking civilians and killing civilians like your beloved hamas and hazebolla

P.s no Turkish propaganda please.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:41pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
Bring your evidence.

Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??

THE JAPANESE USED SUICIDE BOMBINGS (kamikaze) AGAINST THE ALLIES

Brings your evidence that YPG are attacking civilians and killing civilians like your beloved hamas and hazebolla

P.s no Turkish propaganda please.
Answer my questions, you'll get your evidence

It's not hard

Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:42pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Answer my questions, you'll get your evidence

It's not hard

Do you deny they carryout suicide bombings? Are suicide bombings now acceptable?
Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??

You are the one who brought suicide bombings into the discuss. Mr man Priovide us with the proof of the YPG attacking civilians or killing civilians.

In a war killing your opponents is allowed. By any means you can as long as they are in accordance with the rule of law, Through out the course of military history. They are suicide missions carried out.

Bring your evidence or hold your peace

I don't have time for this
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:46pm On Nov 14, 2024
obedience4:
Suicide bombings against who? COMBATANTS OR CIVILIANS??
Shey you won't answer directly?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:48pm On Nov 14, 2024
IMEI:
Shey you won't answer directly?
Am done with this shi*+.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 8:13pm On Nov 14, 2024
⚡Russian research vessel/spy ship Yantar currently loitering over underwater infrastructure in the Irish Sea off the Isle of Man.

Monitored by P-8A aircraft and possibly HMS Iron Duke.

The vessel switched on AIS briefly this afternoon.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LifeofDream: 9:43pm On Nov 14, 2024
lanre316:
He will listen. He's tired of the war. No economy can sustain a war prolonged too long without permanent damage. Russia had lost many men in this war and their family are cursing Putin day and night.

Besides that, if Trump stop USA giving money to Zelensky, he will have no choice than make some concessions that Putin demands and end this war.
And you're there witnessing them cursing Putin?.. Lmao. grin While Russia may have lose men, the ratio is at least 3 to 1 with Ukraine losing at least 2.5-3 for every Russia soldier.. Propaganda can go so long, reality have set in.. Absolutely no one is believing in Ukraine defeating Russia again, all they talk about now is nuclear weapon and Ukraine joining NATO as the only hope...

Russia is activating almost all front and ukraine is in a dire situation.. It would be foolish for Putin to listen to any negotiation now, that would be nonsense. Let the Rus reach Dneiper first, then we talk about Odessa and those central regions of Ukraine in the negotiation..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 11:28pm On Nov 14, 2024
LifeofDream:
And you're there witnessing them cursing Putin?.. Lmao. grin While Russia may have lose men, the ratio is at least 3 to 1 with Ukraine losing at least 2.5-3 for every Russia soldier.. Propaganda can go so long, reality have set in.. Absolutely no one is believing in Ukraine defeating Russia again, all they talk about now is nuclear weapon and Ukraine joining NATO as the only hope...

Russia is activating almost all front and ukraine is in a dire situation.. It would be foolish for Putin to listen to any negotiation now, that would be nonsense. Let the Rus reach Dneiper first, then we talk about Odessa and those central regions of Ukraine in the negotiation..
The casualty ratio is much larger than 3 to 1. It was 7 to 1 at one point but is larger now. You can easily guesstimate the casualty rate from the prisoner and casualty exchange rate.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:25am On Nov 15, 2024
When will Ukraine take back it land that the fake promise Biden the Satan associate told them

The sick man also told them nato will join the war now the useless nato general is saying without Russia nuke that they nato would have pushed Russia out

So he did not remember Russia nuke when Biden the Satan associate and boris the clown face was pushing Ukraine to make war

Lol

I heard the clown face want UK to enter Ukraine lol pathetic
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HurricaneLanter: 3:12am On Nov 15, 2024
#ThrowbackThursday Trump's National Intelligence nominee, Tulsi Gabbard, was placed on unofficial Ukrainian ‘kill list’

The former Hawaii congresswoman allegedly conducted "special info ops" against Ukraine and was placed on Myrotvorets as she was "probably an agent" of the Kremlin.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HurricaneLanter: 3:14am On Nov 15, 2024
In Hungary, the memory of Soviet soldiers who liberated Europe from fascism is honored. In the city of Dunaújváros, a new memorial has been created with the names of 99 soldiers who died in the battles of the Great Patriotic War.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HurricaneLanter: 3:15am On Nov 15, 2024
Scholz spoke out against granting the Ukrainian Armed Forces the right to strike deep into the Russian Federation. Speaking in the Bundestag, the German Chancellor reiterated his position.

Scholz has repeatedly rejected the possibility of transferring Taurus missiles to Kyiv, which have a range of about 500 km. The head of government stated that the delivery of such weapons systems would entail a "serious risk of escalation."

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HurricaneLanter: 3:29am On Nov 15, 2024
🇪🇺🇬🇪 The West criticizes Georgia, but does not see the beam in its own eye , said Parliament Speaker Papuashvili.

" France plans to detain the leader of the second most popular party, Germany plans to ban the second most popular party, and in the US, an opposition presidential candidate was threatened with 561 years in prison, and was only saved by winning the election ," he recalled.

This was a response to EU MPs who yesterday criticized the recent Georgian parliamentary elections and the desire of the ruling Georgian Dream to investigate the crimes of Saakashvili's United National Movement.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HurricaneLanter: 3:29am On Nov 15, 2024
🇬🇪🇪🇺 Georgia is not a colony, no one can appoint the country's authorities from abroad , said Tbilisi Mayor Kakha Kaladze.

" Some people think that Georgia is their colony, and it turns out that everyone should behave the way they decide there, in Brussels or somewhere else: they should stand on one leg, give up the sovereignty and independence of the country ," he noted .

According to him, such an attitude is an insult to the Georgian people, who chose the Georgian Dream on October 26, and everyone must come to terms with it.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 4:25am On Nov 15, 2024
Empiree:
Guy, you don't know what you are doing. This is what you got as your proof?.

Common man, you can do better
What's wrong with it.


Hang Palestinian flags and they will come out like rats.



The attack on the Jews was planned. The Israelis were not blameless though they sang Bleep the Arabs in the stadium.


But regardless the attacks were planned
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 7:42am On Nov 15, 2024
⚡China officially opens $3.5 billion mega-port in Peru.

Chinese President Xi Jinping participated in the inauguration of a major Beijing-funded port in Chancay, Peru, on Thursday, praising the $3.5 billion project as "the birth of a new land-sea passage for a new era."

In his speech at the mega-port's opening ceremony, the Chinese leader praised the project as "a successful case of Sino-Peruvian cooperation under the aegis of the Belt and Road Initiative."

Xi stated that the investment would create a new maritime corridor between China and Latin America, "connecting the great Inca trail and the maritime Silk Road, paving the way for common prosperity for Peru and other nations in the region."

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 7:43am On Nov 15, 2024
⚡Elon Musk Met With Iran’s U.N. Ambassador, Iranian Officials Say

Elon Musk, an adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, reportedly met with Iran’s U.N. ambassador, Amir Saeid Iravani, in New York to discuss reducing tensions between the U.S. and Iran. The meeting, lasting over an hour and held at a secret location, was described by anonymous Iranian officials as a positive step and "good news."

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 7:45am On Nov 15, 2024
🇮🇶 🏆 An Iraqi basketball player celebrates his victory with Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah's "horizontal-vertical" gesture, which indicates that the occupiers enter vertically and exit horizontally.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 7:48am On Nov 15, 2024
Lawag3:
What's wrong with it.


Hang Palestinian flags and they will come out like rats.



The attack on the Jews was planned. The Israelis were not blameless though they sang Bleep the Arabs in the stadium.


But regardless the attacks were planned
I am surprised is that you have not started blaming Hamas for the Amsterdam issue. Your colleagues have started blaming Hamas. Maybe you should join them.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2:
🇵🇱 This is Poland.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 7:58am On Nov 15, 2024
🍁 Descendants of Hitler.


Russia must rid the world of these Canadian scums.

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