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I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

Darren95:
Oga shut up your mouth if you don’t know the origin of the word “Akalaka”

Akalaka is a combination of two words:

Akalaka = Aka N’ Ogbe alaka (Ogbelaka in Benin)
N’ = From
Ogbe = Quarters
Alaka = A founder of good things.

I.e = Aka warrior from Ogbelaka in Igodomigodo present day Benin Kingdom.

We Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye are the Great Aka’s of Ancient Benin Kingdom.

Then the Benin’s where also known as; ‘Aka’ which the Urhobo people still call Benin till date.

Pa Idu the progenitor of Ancient Benin had three Children: Aka, Efa, and Emehi

Akalaka (Aka) an Ancient Benin name signifies: Strength, Greatness and mighty.

That is why you have names like:
Alakalaka in Benin = meaning Greatness and mighty too.

Benin is not yesterday, it is called Ancient Kingdom for a reason and Ikwerre people are ancient people!

Respect our history Mr. Igbo Biafra attach by force migrant parasites!

You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.

Odingo1:
You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.

Oga respect yourself, we speak Ikwerre Language which has over 20 dialects.

That Ikwerre and Igbo happen to share some similar words in both languages due to close boundary and trading does not give you the audacity to group our language as Igbo!

For your information: Igbo means “Forest” in Ikwerre Language and our Ikwerre Language or identity is not “Forest”! Plss!!! Hahahah

Note: Ikwerre and Igbo are not the only tribes that share some similar words in both languages In Nigeria and Across Africa and the world.

Stop trying to attach yourself to us, be proud of yourself, We Ikwerres are doing perfectly well!

Darren95:
Oga respect yourself, we speak Ikwerre Language which has over 20 dialects.

That Ikwerre and Igbo happen to share some similar words in both languages due to close boundary does not give you the audacity to group our language as Igbo!

For your information: Igbo means “Forest” in Ikwerre Language and our Ikwerre Language or identity is not “Forest”! Plss!!! Hahahah

They don’t share similar words, Ikwerre is Igbo language or whichever language you want to call it. The two languages are intelligible, Anioma, Ika, Ikwerre are on the same family language and can be grouped under Igbo because you all hear yourselves and bear the same names.

Any language that is heard by all that is speaking fall under the same language like Portuguese, Spanish and Italian are under Latin language and diverge into different dialects from Latin, the same with German languages of Germany, Austria etc.

In Yoruba, Awoori, Ilaje, Egun language can’t be understood by Yorubas and yet it was classified as Yoruba to talk of Ikwerre language that every Igbo person can hear und understand very well.

Darren95:
Oga shut up your mouth if you don’t know the origin of the word “Akalaka”

Akalaka is a combination of two words:

Akalaka = Aka N’ Ogbe alaka (Ogbelaka in Benin)
N’ = From
Ogbe = Quarters
Alaka = A founder of good things.

I.e = Aka warrior from Ogbelaka in Igodomigodo present day Benin Kingdom.

We Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye are the Great Aka’s of Ancient Benin Kingdom.

Then the Benin’s where also known as; ‘Aka’ which the Urhobo people still call Benin till date.

Pa Idu the progenitor of Ancient Benin had three Children: Aka, Efa, and Emehi

Akalaka (Aka) an Ancient Benin name signifies: Strength, Greatness and mighty.

That is why you have names like:
Alakalaka in Benin = meaning Greatness and mighty too.

Benin is not yesterday, it is called Ancient Kingdom for a reason and Ikwerre people are ancient people!

Respect our history Mr. Igbo Biafra attach by force migrant parasites!

You have countered his lies with facts.
Meka ooo

sageb:
You have countered his lies with facts.
Meka ooo

All those things you call facts doesn’t matter because the reality on ground is that your language you call Ikwerre is Igbo dialect. If Igbo man is standing near you and you are with another Ikwerre person discussing , can you sell the Igbo man standing near you with your Ikwerre without the Igbo person hearing what you are saying in your language you call Ikwerre.

sageb:
You have countered his lies with facts.
Meka ooo

E clear my brother! 💯💯

sageb:
You have countered his lies with facts.
Meka ooo

He countered nothing. Stop rejoicing when you should be crying for deceiving yourself for many years now.

Darren95:
E clear my brother! 💯💯

E no clear anything stop chest beating. Ikwerre is Igbo even the name ikwerre, is an Igbo word. This is the time of awakening, no wonder so many of our ikwerre brothers are now making videos on Facebook, tiktok and YouTube telling the world that, they are Igbo and not only that, they are equally telling the world that they are proud of their Igbo heritage.

Mbanda:
E no clear anything stop chest beating. Ikwerre is Igbo even the name ikwerre, is an Igbo word. This is the time of awakening, no wonder so many of our ikwerre brothers are now making videos on Facebook, tiktok and YouTube telling the world that, they are Igbo and not only that, they are equally telling the world that they are proud of their Igbo heritage.

Dreamer dream on.

Fantasy is free.

Until you clowns realize that you are just wasting your time and begin to plan your biafala or whatever you like, without Ikwerre in mind, you will continue deluding yourselves.

Never seen a people without self respect.

Tranquill:
Dreamer dream on.

Fantasy is free.

Until you clowns realize that you are just wasting your time and begin to plan your biafala or whatever you like, without Ikwerre in mind, you will continue deluding yourselves.

Never seen a people without self respect.

Who is talking about Biafra here, the context is that Ikwerre language is an Igbo dialect because all them can hear each other and bear the same names and that doesn’t make Ikwerre people Biafrans.

Ikwerre can deny not been Igbo for political reasons but in reality their Ikwerre language is the same with Igbo language.

Odingo1:
Who is talking about Biafra here, the context is that Ikwerre language is an Igbo dialect because all them can hear each other and bear the same names and that doesn’t make Ikwerre people Biafrans.

Ikwerre can deny not been Igbo for political reasons but in reality their Ikwerre language is the same with Igbo language.

Ikwerre language is not Igbo dialect.

Ikwerre language is Ikwerre language and Igbo language is Igbo language.

Ikwerre language IS NOT the same with Igbo language.

Ikwerre language is spoken by Ikwerre people and Igbo language is spoken by Igbo people.

Darren95:
Oga respect yourself, we speak Ikwerre Language which has over 20 dialects.

That Ikwerre and Igbo happen to share some similar words in both languages due to close boundary and trading does not give you the audacity to group our language as Igbo!

For your information: Igbo means “Forest” in Ikwerre Language and our Ikwerre Language or identity is not “Forest”! Plss!!! Hahahah

Note: Ikwerre and Igbo are not the only tribes that share some similar words in both languages In Nigeria and Across Africa and the world.

Stop trying to attach yourself to us, be proud of yourself, We Ikwerres are doing perfectly well!

super confused

Tranquill:
Ikwerre language is not Igbo dialect.

Ikwerre language is Ikwerre language and Igbo language is Igbo language.

Ikwerre language IS NOT the same with Igbo language.

Ikwerre language is spoken by Ikwerre people and Igbo language is spoken by Igbo people.

A language that can be understood and heard by the same group of people can’t be a different language to each other.

ariesbull:
I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

Not even all ikwerre clans migrated from ogba/ekpeye land. Igwuruta is from arochukwu, majority of isiokpo came from arochukwu too.
Most ikwerre that are from ekpeye/ Bini are people of emuoha and part of obio/akpor people.

Though, none of them are Bini people.

Odingo1:
A language that can be understood and heard by the same group of people can’t be a different language to each other.

Many of you just sit somewhere and make up stories.

It’s even hard to see an Ikwerre person who understands all the dialects of the Ikwerre language but one fellow from Mbano will be claiming he understands what he clearly doesn’t understand.

Abeg mek ona rest. Live and let others live peacefully.

Tranquill:
Dreamer dream on.

Fantasy is free.

Until you clowns realize that you are just wasting your time and begin to plan your biafala or whatever you like, without Ikwerre in mind, you will continue deluding yourselves.

Never seen a people without self respect.

Honestly speaking, you are the dreamer here deluding yourself.
What I said about our ikwerre brothers claiming Igbo is real, it doesn't matter how a bad belle person like you see it. Many ikwerre people currently will tell you to your face that they are proud Igbo, if you no like am like that go and hug a live transformer. Some of you clowns think we are still in the Nigeria of the old where, age long propagandas reign supreme.

Mumu!

Odingo1:
You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.

Ode!

Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba and the rest do not speak igbo.

They speak their own distinct language. That there are similarities in language is normal everywhere in the world. Even within the igbo group, they dont understand themselves e.g there are groups in Enonyi state whose language is not understand by other igbos.

Another fact is that, ika, Ikwerre and other south south nationalities are older than igbo.
These groups have a well defined history and how their progenitor migrated from Benin. Same cannot be said about igbos who till this day cannot tell the world where they came from.

Stop trying to be a land grabber and focus on your five plots of land. It was Ajayi that caused this nonsense when he brought strange people together and started teaching them a language called "ibo".

ariesbull:
I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

This piece was not written by a Bini man but by an Itsekiri man, so there will always be some bias.

Also, Eze, Akalaka have origin in Edoid related languages. These words are still found in related groups like Urhobo. It can be broken into Aka-Alaka.

You should also put in mind that Bini built one of the most successful kingdom in the whole of the Niger Delta and it's only normal for people to want to attach their origin to such greate kingdom. Even related groups like Urhobo are still dealing with the same issue. It's very common to see people saying they migrated from Bini, whereas, these people have existed long before anything Bini was formed and a huge chunk of the modern people came to be as a result of internal migrations from several Isoko/Urhobo and a handful of Ijaw communities. But modern historians still find way to want to attach to the greatness of the Bini empire. It was historians like late Prof. Peter Ekeh that began reshaping Urhobo historical perspectives.

The Ikwerre-Bini claim can be true. But it's not possible for a people to have a single origin. Maybe a handful of Edoid speaking migrants formed a core of the people but from all logical angles, Igboid groups were also the ancestors of these people.

Odingo1:
You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.

What is Igbo word for 'Yes'?
Let's start here to know who stole the other person's language.

Darren95:
Oga respect yourself, we speak Ikwerre Language which has over 20 dialects.

That Ikwerre and Igbo happen to share some similar words in both languages due to close boundary and trading does not give you the audacity to group our language as Igbo!

For your information: Igbo means “Forest” in Ikwerre Language and our Ikwerre Language or identity is not “Forest”! Plss!!! Hahahah

Note: Ikwerre and Igbo are not the only tribes that share some similar words in both languages In Nigeria and Across Africa and the world.

Stop trying to attach yourself to us, be proud of yourself, We Ikwerres are doing perfectly well!

Wene meka. Ask any Igbo man igbo word for YES it doesn't exist. The people go about stealing language and culture. Some years later it will become theirs. Don't be surprised in years to come Igbo will claim ikwerre copied waist dance from them. Today they are copying it in church. Many of them no longer stand and dance. They now bend down to wriggle their waist like the typical ikwerre people. After some years they will say it is theirs.
How Igbos that ikwerres call isoma would turn around to rub this name on us is quite despicable.

Odingo1:
They don’t share similar words, Ikwerre is Igbo language or whichever language you want to call it. The two languages are intelligible, Anioma, Ika, Ikwerre are on the same family language and can be grouped under Igbo because you all hear yourselves and bear the same names.

Any language that is heard by all that is speaking fall under the same language like Portuguese, Spanish and Italian are under Latin language and diverge into different dialects from Latin, the same with German languages of Germany, Austria etc.

In Yoruba, Awoori, Ilaje, Egun language can’t be understood by Yorubas and yet it was classified as Yoruba to talk of Ikwerre language that every Igbo person can hear und understand very well.

Classifying language under a group doesn't make the people the same. It is for easy of study and identity. If ikwerre had 5 states as Igbos and Igbos 4 LGA the classification will be in reverse. Understand this. Having some words in common with you doesn't make me you.

Odingo1:
All those things you call facts doesn’t matter because the reality on ground is that your language you call Ikwerre is Igbo dialect. If Igbo man is standing near you and you are with another Ikwerre person discussing , can you sell the Igbo man standing near you with your Ikwerre without the Igbo person hearing what you are saying in your language you call Ikwerre.

Igbos staying in their conclave wouldn't understand me. The only igbo that will understand ikwerre are those who have spent some times in Port Harcourt.
Igbos have known ikwerre for over a hundred years and every effort to annex ikwerre has failed. We may be a related ethnic but not one the other. Our cultures, beliefs and values differ.
Igbo has advantage because of numbers. That is why ikwerre is being classified as Igbo. An average Igbo man knows that if not for territorial expansion he doesn't have any similarities with an Ikwerre man.

Odingo1:
Who is talking about Biafra here, the context is that Ikwerre language is an Igbo dialect because all them can hear each other and bear the same names and that doesn’t make Ikwerre people Biafrans.

Ikwerre can deny not been Igbo for political reasons but in reality their Ikwerre language is the same with Igbo language.

Do you understand ikwerre?
Let's put it into test.
Iyo vo vu ivuru. Iyo vu ivoma.
What did I say?

ariesbull:
I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

I think after December 02 all of you will rest

ariesbull:
I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

Those communities in Akoko-edo, named aiyetoro etc were renamed in the colonial era by Yoruba influence.

That area was a war ravaged zone in the 19th century,some of those communities were renamed by the Yoruba priest and colonial officers during the late 19th century

Kreesxxx:
Igbos staying in their conclave wouldn't understand me. The only igbo that will understand ikwerre are those who have spent some times in Port Harcourt.
Igbos have known ikwerre for over a hundred years and every effort to annex ikwerre has failed. We may be a related ethnic but not one the other. Our cultures, beliefs and values differ.
Igbo has advantage because of numbers. That is why ikwerre is being classified as Igbo. An average Igbo man knows that if not for territorial expansion he doesn't have any similarities with an Ikwerre man.

Lol!
How is emuoha man related to elele, isiokpo, or igwuruta man?
All of the present ikwerre clans migrated from ndoki, arochukwu, ngwa, ogba, ekpeye and owerri clans. People of Aluu, igwuruta, isiokpo, elele, emuoha, rebisi, and obio/akpor all migrated from different igbo and igba/ekpeye clans.

Let me just summarise this for you, as long as you have kp in your names, you are an igbo man.
Shalom!

caleboxylic:
Lol!
How is emuoha man related to elele, isiokpo, or igwuruta man?
All of the present ikwerre clans migrated from ndoki, arochukwu, ngwa, ogba, ekpeye and owerri clans. People of Aluu, igwuruta, isiokpo, elele, emuoha, rebisi, and obio/akpor all migrated from different igbo and igba/ekpeye clans.

Let me just summarise this for you, as long as you have kp in your names, you are an igbo man.
Shalom!

Good you know my history. Historian thanks for educating me. Can you now tell me your history?

caleboxylic:
Lol!
How is emuoha man related to elele, isiokpo, or igwuruta man?
All of the present ikwerre clans migrated from ndoki, arochukwu, ngwa, ogba, ekpeye and owerri clans. People of Aluu, igwuruta, isiokpo, elele, emuoha, rebisi, and obio/akpor all migrated from different igbo and igba/ekpeye clans.

Let me just summarise this for you, as long as you have kp in your names, you are an igbo man.
Shalom!

Don't waste your time. Ikwerres see Igbos as Isoma. With this name at the back of our mind, the ikwerre man would prefer death to igbo identity. As you are an OSU another igbo man would prefer death to accepting to be an OSU like you.

caleboxylic:
Lol!
How is emuoha man related to elele, isiokpo, or igwuruta man?
All of the present ikwerre clans migrated from ndoki, arochukwu, ngwa, ogba, ekpeye and owerri clans. People of Aluu, igwuruta, isiokpo, elele, emuoha, rebisi, and obio/akpor all migrated from different igbo and igba/ekpeye clans.

Let me just summarise this for you, as long as you have kp in your names, you are an igbo man.
Shalom!

You people have started again!

This was the same dumb conclusion Nnamdi Kanu who is enjoying his time in DSS dungeon said that all tribes tieing two wrappers are igbos.

He forgot that just a few decades ago, igbos were still very naked when British was administering Nigeria.

Names having "kp" are very much rooted in Edo.

For example Ikpomwosa, Sakponba. Even Urhobo have them too e.g Sammie Okposo.

Igbos should stop this inferiority complex and be proud of themselves. Stop trying attachment by force.

saddler:
Ode!

Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba and the rest do not speak igbo.

They speak their own distinct language. That there are similarities in language is normal everywhere in the world. Even within the igbo group, they dont understand themselves e.g there are groups in Enonyi state whose language is not understand by other igbos.

Another fact is that, ika, Ikwerre and other south south nationalities are older than igbo.
These groups have a well defined history and how their progenitor migrated from Benin. Same cannot be said about igbos who till this day cannot tell the world where they came from.

Stop trying to be a land grabber and focus on your five plots of land. It was Ajayi that caused this nonsense when he brought strange people together and started teaching them a language called "ibo".

You just drive joy in deceiving yourself, nobody is grabbing your land, migration from Benin doesn’t mean that the progenitors that migrated from Benin are not Igbos, before the establishment of Benin kingdom from Yorubas Aromiya with the help of Portuguese, there is IDU kingdom before Igodomigodo, Igbos are part of IDU before Akalaka and Eze-Chime migrated out of IDU not even Benin because Benin kingdom came yesterday.

The said Ajayi Crowther is a returned refugee from America that just wrote a book about languages in Nigeria and didn’t form any language, stop showing your ignorance on public.