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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Cancri: 2:40pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Empiree:MF Muslim |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Cancri: 2:41pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Empiree:yes, of course that's there legal land |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 2:49pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Lawag3:but you said Jews doesn't practice homosexual? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 2:51pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:Who is giving you biblical stories? I am telling you of historical facts and the actions of Emperor Hadrian who renamed ancient Judea to Palestine simply because he wanted to wipe out every trace of Jewish history because they seriously opposed his government (Do you see that in any Bible?) The biggest mistake you make is to think the ancient Philistines are the current day Palestinians. That place came to belong to biblical Jews through conquest which was a valid means as at that time. Are you now satisfied? Or you want me to school you like a kindergarten pupil? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:52pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Empiree:🌹🌹 |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:54pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:Please school me but provide sound references as well Still my question is valid. If there were people on the land before Jews ever set foot on it, what makes them the owner? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 2:55pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:You're absolutely right. Aliens make up the Ukrainian football league or any league for that matter. Lots of Russians, Serbians, Turks, Croatians, Czech and players from different nationalities. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 2:56pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
WriteerNg:Before you jump goal post, I need you to explain the purpose of Argentinian gold in UK |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 2:58pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Vic2023:I ask again shebi Muslims are not allowed to drink? Because when did I say that. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 2:59pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:Do you even understand what collateral means? And before you quote me again do your research. The US, UK, Switzerland and France hold the gold reserves of so many African and Latin American countries. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 2:59pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:Are you blind? Did you not see conquest? The conquest is a biblical story, I agree. But you forget that it is the same biblical stories that ever established the first existence of the fundamental human right to religion in the code of Hammurabi. Isn't it hypocritical to use biblical stories to establish the first ever documented human right and then turn against it when it talks about Jewish conquest? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:01pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
WriteerNg:I was the first to ask that question and rather than you respond, you ignored it. Argentinian gold is in UK simply because Argentina is borrowing money from UK and using that gold as a collateral, contrary to what you want people to believe that Argentina is keeping the gold with UK and the UK will add it up to its reserves. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 3:02pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
nigeriansamurai:I didn't even went to Wikipedia for anything, you bright bulbs fear facts. You couldn't even disprove just one. Disprove it if it's false. I have also downloaded the book from the little I have read so far it doesn't say Jews converted to Islam en mass. It just talking about Islamic rule in the holy land. But let me finish the book first it's less than 40 pages |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:05pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
WriteerNg:The question is why are they holding it? It is simple logic that as long as you use something as collateral, once you default, you lose your collateral. Even though there is no evidence of US, UK and others holding the gold of other countries like you said, as long as you do not default on a debt, the gold collateral can never be added to the assets of the country where it is located. Think for yourself, will Nigeria's external reserves located in a bank based in Washington be counted as America's assets? Therefore, even if we give you the benefit of the doubt, those gold will never be counted as belonging to USA as long as there is no contractual agreement necessitating the gold being used as collateral. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:06pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
WriteerNg:And yet again, another my brother told me so story ![]() |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 3:08pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Lawag3:Russian ppl in donbas was first attacked by Ukraine Likewise the Palestinians
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:08pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:From stating: "Who's giving you biblical stories?" to admitting that the whole basis of the claim of ownership, the conquest you mentioned, is a biblical story You see why I don't take most of you seriously If you believe biblical Jews conquering the land eons ago entitles them to claims of ownership today, then I guess Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical israel |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:12pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
⚡The Trump transition team is compiling a list of U.S. military officers who were directly involved in the withdrawal from Afghanistan and exploring whether they could be court-martialed for their involvement - NBC |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:13pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:You need to have your head examined. There's definitely something wrong somewhere. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:14pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:Hope you know histories have a timeline and things occur one after the other. We are talking about how the state of Israel initially existed to how Judea came to be known as Palestine. I just wonder how people like you just happen to believe that a group of people who never had a king, never had a capital, never had a currency can legitimately own a land. Even Africans that were termed uncivilised by the colonial masters had cowry shells as money, we had a seat for the king. Come on, don't be dumb. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:16pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:What's the relevance of biblical historical stories to issues of territorial dispute under International Law? Palestine and Israel conflict in focus |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:18pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical Israel. Definitely!! This is the only sensible thing you have said in the last 17 years but you failed to realize that the Italians never lay claim to the land, they only established their government there and allowed the Jews to continue calling it theirs. In those times, you live according to the will of your captors. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:23pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:It is absolutely useless and no one is using it. You are the ones going back and forth on the legality of Israel to exist as a nation. United Nations already partitioned the land, recognising the right of both Israel and Palestine to exist. (Two state solution) It is you people who believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist that bring up stories which necessitate the need to tell you that what you are even claiming never belonged to you. Okay, no biblical stories, can you cough up anything document or history that established that Palestinians were the original owners of ancient Judea? |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:I never claimed they did, I only deduced using your logic or illogic Do you know why the Italians didn't lay claim based on historical conquests? Because it's not a legitimate or legal basis under any existing laws in the 21st Century. That absurdity lies with israel and it's supporters Absurd elements/supporters like you |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 3:28pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Empiree:Because The USA will bomb neighbours who join alliance with enemies doest make it right. It's still wrong. No nation should be able to tell another sovereign nation what it can and should not do what organisations it can and can not join. You people call the US evil for trying to control other countries and now when the Russians do it it's allowed isn't that double standards. You forget Arabs and Jews were leaving in the land abi nor be Una say before the Europeans came the Jews and Arabs lived in peace? Jew are the indigenous people. Arabs are from Saudi Arabia. Jews are from Judea. Judea is Palestine The UN did not create a country for Europeans. Only 40 percent of Jews in Israel are Jews from Europe the others are Jews from the middle East and North Africa chased by the Arabs during the 1945 Wars. European Jews have Jewish ancestry and DNA it has been proven so many times but you guys will never agree. And yes Israel fought by itself against the Arabs but that isn't important in this conversation. David and Solomon are names if Jewish origins not Arab names. Both were Jewish kings ruled from Jerusalem. The shekel is over 2500 years old use Google sister it's an ancient Israelites currency. Even the Palestinians will stone you for suggesting that they are related to Jews and the fact that they used to be Jews. Palestinians are Arabs . Either you research or You can die in your ignorance. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:30pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:You are very funny!!! By the way, I never said you did. It is actually absurd for you to state that the reason why Italians never lay claim was because it is not legitimate in the 21st century. How can you use a conquest of over a thousand years ago and use a 21st century legality to justify reasons. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 3:31pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Vic2023:Donbas is part of Ukraine. It's like saying because Benin republic treats it's Yoruba harshly Nigeria should invade Benin. Your Hamas fools recorded the whole thing so shut up. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 3:32pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
IMEI:You debunk it if it's false. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:36pm On Nov 17, 2024*. Modified: 5:08pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Gbadebo19:You're literally the one who denied Palestinians the land because according to you they had no king and no history on the land. But now you're flipping it on me, claiming I'm denying israel's right to exist You used israel's purported ancient history to attribute ownership to them, while denying same for Palestinians on account of a purported lack of history As for me, my arguments have always been grounded in legal facts. You trying to spin things again is just plain old tomfoolery from you The fact remains, take away the biblical and religious elements, most of you can't properly make a case for israel and even the religiously driven arguments require shutting off objective reasoning and self-reflection |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:37pm On Nov 17, 2024 |
Lawag3:Debunk what has no sound basis? |
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