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AngelicBeing:
You seem to be a believer in Jesus Christ in the past but from some of your post, it seems you kind of went back or left God ( l might be wrong), but as my beautiful Sister, l want you to come back to Christ and l will send you to be one of my Resident National Overseer in Australia in 2025

So you remembered me today cos of this angel
Haba

That's not fair to me na

Oyedepo is saving future crisis that will involve his children. It's better the man go and start his own ministry.

If you're a member of LFC, this your new revelation about Bishop Abioye would not have been there. Bishop Abioye is a core teacher of the word of God. He dissect words as if he is doing surgical operation. You cannot be under his teaching and not take one or two things home, not possible.

Basicend:
Dear Writer,

Spiritual authority and depth is earned tru the exact paths that God has put before you.

Skills, knowledge and spiritual gifts are not enough.

Many people like Bishop Abioye coz he seems humble, I believe that is one of the reasons why God allowed him to back Bishop Oyedepo for many years.

Bishop Oyedepo is an aggressive lion, and needs someone close with some calm, worded and balanced appeal to carry the ministry weight.

If Bishop Abioye is not called to patriach a ministry pathway by himself, he would not have gotten to where he is today.

It is only the hand of God that gives a voice and makes a man great. And this has to do with obedience to his will or burden.

* * Arguably, even the greatest man of God in Nigeria today, Pastor E.A Adeboye did not own a church. Not a single parish of RCCG belongs to him or his family. . but becoz he connected himself to God"s needed move for that season, his name was established tru God's name.

Whereas, God permitted Bishop Oyedepo and some others to create paths and establish churches directly.

I agree with you.

Moses did not own a church, Apostle Paul did not own a church, so also Our Lord Jesus Christ did not own a physical church.

Establishing a physical church should not be the yardstick for measuring the soundness or greatness or spirituality of a pastor; nor is it a sign that God is really in support of his ministry.

Even Aron, who was older than Moses, followed him even in his old age of 80 plus. So what is the big deal in Abioye following Oyedepo in his 60 plus year

Even though I do not see the reason why someone should be made to retire from the work of God, it is not the job of outsiders to debate. Leave them alone. Solve your own problem first.

Some people are yet to solve their sit-at-home problem, but they have opinions on what goes on in other people's life. No be juju be that!!!

So why are people angry about the affairs of someone owning or not owning a church

jesusjnr2020:
It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.

He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.

I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth which is based Christ's teachings.

However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.

So could David Abioye have also done same thing?

Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.

God bless.

What do you mean by Enforced Retirement, please?

descarado:
So you remembered me today cos of this angel
Haba

That's not fair to me na

Sorry if my post hurt you, you are a good woman with a beautiful heart, l read some of your comments in different section of Nairaland and l can perceive from a distance that Descerado is a good woman perhaps some things pissed her off and she decided to stop going to church or abandon religion, even if you abandon religion, stick to your creator and He will always be your shield 🛡️

Daniel058:
YEAH Joshua Selman too,
You see David OGBUELI, He's the Oga kpatakpata of them all

Honestly Daddy Ogbueli is a class on his own. A true father. A Man that can teach a simple message only you will go and be repenting and seeking God passionately.

Alsenora:
A sage once said "conscience is an open wound; only the truth can heal it." Find the truth and hold on to it as you understand.

Lol......so the truth is all about individual understanding?
Your analogy clearly shows that there is no fake pastor anywhere and ot also prove that All pastors are true pastors according to their individual understanding of the scriptures even though they contradict each other. That is actually weird and funny.

Michael547:
Why are all these men not under the same umbrella of christ.....why are they in different ministries that causes division by contradictory biblical doctrines?

They are under the umbrella of Christ but their own calling is quite unique because they are Apostle and by the help of God Almighty they pushed themselves beyond the ordinary in order to host dimensions of God.
Priesthood is serious business it's not for everyone but only those who are willing to walk the walk.

Anonimoux:
They are under the umbrella of Christ but their own calling is quite unique because they are Apostle and by the help of God Almighty they pushed themselves beyond the ordinary in order to host dimensions of God.
Priesthood is serious business it's not for everyone but only those who are willing to walk the walk.

Do these pastors agree on biblical doctrines?

Anonimoux:
Honestly Daddy Ogbueli is a class on his own. A true father. A Man that can teach a simple message only you will go and be repenting and seeking God passionately.

He's exactly the kind of preacher we need in this age and time

Michael547:
Do these pastors agree on biblical doctrines?

yes

jesusjnr2020:
It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.

He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.

I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth which is based Christ's teachings.

However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.

So could David Abioye have also done same thing?

Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.

God bless.

. oga na rubbish u dey talk

[quote author=Kingosytex post=132909491]Many are of the opinion that Bishop Abioye is good, they may be right. Though, I've never listened to him.
I've tried listening to Bishop Oyedepo a few times but I found his preaching very boring and tiring.
Pst. Chris teachings are just something else, I can stay a whole day listening to that man.
He is worded and his voice is magical too [/quote
Musu

Michael547:
So are you saying that there is no way one can actually know the true church, we should just go to any church that we are individually comfortable with?

no sir. I didn't say that

Why are you commenting on issues you don't know anything about?
David Abioye was not forced out, I repeat was not forced out.
It's time for him to take God's word to another level. You said it your self, you never know he was that blessed. Many more people will get to see the glory of God in a man who was mentored by God servant Bishop Oyedepo.
Bishop Abioye remain the only Vice President of a church that is even more popular than most president. Show me another vice president of a church that is known in Nigeria?
He is a father to Pastor Enenche, Fatoyinbo, Ibieyomie and many more powerful man of God. These pastors always come to him for spiritual learning and prayers.
Before anyone start arguing with their keyboard, I know this fact, I have work with them, I have been in very close proximity with them and have witnessed countless encounters with these men of God.
Shalom!

djon78:
I may disagree

Bishop Abioye did the right thing serving Bishop Oyedepo

He was a very humble and meek man

God rewards not based on Man's perception

Also kindly note that having biggest ministry isn't or shouldn't be the highest goal

But doing the Lords will and purpose should be the real goal


I recently read up on John Wesley the founder of Methodist church

He died the year1791
But his work he did is still relevant today as Methodist church

We humans are mortal

All these our pursuits are ephemeral
Doesn't last

God is the constant
And pleasing him should be the ultimate goal


So God's work will continue to florish and prosper till the Lord returns

Because God works in mysterious ways that we humans can't fathom

His ways are past understanding

Yeahhh

Salt06:
The bishop already said part of the God given mandate is that winners will form the foundation of many great ministries

Hummm. Okayyy

Michael547:
Was Abioye part of the so called church business?

Yes he was...

bdon123:
Yes he was...

Ok......Meaning he is not a genuine preacher right?

Mummyfour:
no sir. I didn't say that

So how can we know the true church?

Anonimoux:
yes

So you mean that all these pastors agree with Pastor Michael Orokpo who teaches that not all Christians who go to heaven will rule with christ?

Judolisco:
It's jst like in the university, you have different teachers or lecturers and students have their favourites or preference .... U might not like a professor's way of teaching but that doesn't make d prof less knowledgeable......

The only issue people have is that why would bishop abioye and bishop aremu be retired and the General overseer, bishop Oyedepo remain as the G.O, despite being older than them.... And this has also been explained, they are following an operational guide.....

I also love abioye's teaching, he is popular and has a lot of followers, if he had started his own ministry long ago like enenche and others, he might not have been this popular... We can't tell.... But na church matter ino dey 2 chook mouth

Even before now, Abioye has said several times that a lot of people have approached him to start his Church but has turned them down that he wasn't call for that. He is still with Oyedipo, he hasn't start his own ministry. He is into full time evangelism, that is what he is doing now.

jesusjnr2020:
It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.

He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.

I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth which is based Christ's teachings.

However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.

So could David Abioye have also done same thing?

Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.

God bless.

Dr Paul Enenche hardly preached prosperity gospel? May be he just started but currently he is one of the pastor that preach tithe most.

Before any foul smell mouths leave their generational family problems to talk nonsense here on this, go to the Living Faith Church, demand their book called 'THE MANDATE'. It is a deal , it is a covenant. Read it through and mind your business.

It is a set down principle that is older that the retirement of bishop Abioye.

Wicked and hate-filled Sentiments is what kept Nigeria in this dilapidated state. No functional law, no principles. Especially when it concerns the church, every idiot would start vomiting.

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

God bless.

You are a rabble rouser.

jesusjnr2020:
It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.

He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.

I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth which is based Christ's teachings.

However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.

So could David Abioye have also done same thing?

Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.

God bless.

Agreed

descarado:
Did you see where I wrote anything on ibiyeomi.
Cos I know nothing about him.

👍

Michael547:
So if a pastor or church does not agree with Oyedepo, can we say that the pastor or church is true?

True in what sense exactly?

yomi531:
True in what sense exactly?

True in the sense that the doctrine of the church is correct.

Michael547:
Ok......Meaning he is not a genuine preacher right?

Most of dem are business men.no matter how mch i like dem i never forget that d church in nigeria is more of business.

bdon123:
Most of dem are business men.no matter how mch i like dem i never forget that d church in nigeria is more of business.

Is Abioye a genuine preacher? Yes or no?