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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 2:57pm On Nov 18, 2024
So it is Hamas that came from Europe and claimed a middle eastern nation's territory belongs to them? Is it hamas that continues to kill and encroach via illegal settlements?
Lawag3:
Who attacked who first Russia or Ukraine?

Ukraine was attacked first.



Now who attacked who first Israel or hamas?


Israel was attacked First


Understand?


I don't expect you to understand you're blinded by hate
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 3:04pm On Nov 18, 2024
Vic2023:
goal post shifter,una well-done ooo
From 'brings evidence that YPG killed civilians' to 'turkey and Qatar source are propaganda sources' and now to 'brings only article of YPG' ,abeg don't quote this post anymore
That's why I don't entertain f**ls.

If you had followed the conversation I had with the other clown, you won't be here showcasing your stupidi+y. From the start I made it clear to the other clown to bring evidences of Just the YPG not the PKk/YPG.

Because what most Turkish propaganda media do is try to merge the two groups together. To create a false narrative that the YPG is a terrorist group by bringing them together.

You entered into the conversation without reading the conversation and starts bringing up rubbish.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 3:05pm On Nov 18, 2024
Empiree:
Listen, I am trying to frustrate you with respect to Palestine. I am trying to use the same logic because you guys said Palestine did not exist before 1948. This is why I am asking you critical questions perhaps you may think...
Ghostagain only elaborated on what you said. He believes the same thing as you. His quote was actually in response to the nonsense guy you replied to.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:19pm On Nov 18, 2024
Even inside the Bible, the Hebrews did not own the land originally. They had to destroy an entire nation as commanded by God to get the land.
Empiree:
My guy, you are full of hypocrisy or you are ignorant. Cuba, Mexico etc are close to US. If they decide to develop nuclear weapons or to join military alliance with enemies of US, US would bomb them. It is that simple. Russia is the region power in Eastern Europe. So Eastern European countries can not join NATO which is American and Western military wing. That was the agreement signed btw Russia and NATO countries decades ago that no countries near Russia would join NATO. If they do they would be crushed.



I always love it whenever people bring this up. I knew you would say this. First all, what right UN had to partition a country already occupied by Arabs and created another country inside Palestine for Europeans?. This first step alone was illegal. Second, let's agree UN is the authority to do that, why would they partition Arab land and give over 50% to foreigners and the rest to indigenous people?. Does this make sense?. And you expect Arabs to fold their arms?. What if UN do the same to your hometown in Nigeria?.

Secondly, for the fact that you admitted UN created this illegal Geno-State, this means Bible has no say here. The nonesense that God gave them the land according to your Bible is fraudulent. The British created Israel via United Nations not the Bible. So you people need to stop bringing Bible into this.


sorry I don't need story. Isræl didn't flight the 6 day war by itself and won against 6 Arab countries. Just like what is happening today. If you think Israel is fighting alone in Gaza and Lebanon, think again.

their problem, not mine. I don't support illegal annexation like Israel is doing in Palestine.


You say?



you are a confused human being. How does this relate to the current Europeans who called themselves Jews in Israel?. They are Europeans. They have no bloodline to the region. Shekel currency officially started in 1980 as a legal tender. David and Solomon that you mentioned were prophets of Islam. European Jews in Israel have nothing to do with them.

Palestinians are the indigenous Israelites not these European occupiers.. Everybody knows this except religious evangelical Christians with dirty mission.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:25pm On Nov 18, 2024
Russia never said that, you pulled it from your head. Russia doesn't make generalised statements like Ukraine. They make specific statements.
Gbadebo19:
The same way Russia has killed all the able bodied men in Ukraine but still the men's football league goes on. Maybe aliens are the ones playing. grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:27pm On Nov 18, 2024
So did people not inhabit the land before the Jews? Answer yes or no.
Gbadebo19:
Who is giving you biblical stories? I am telling you of historical facts and the actions of Emperor Hadrian who renamed ancient Judea to Palestine simply because he wanted to wipe out every trace of Jewish history because they seriously opposed his government (Do you see that in any Bible?)
The biggest mistake you make is to think the ancient Philistines are the current day Palestinians.
That place came to belong to biblical Jews through conquest which was a valid means as at that time. Are you now satisfied? Or you want me to school you like a kindergarten pupil?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:32pm On Nov 18, 2024
So if they occupied the land through conquest and it had been taking from them through Roman and Islamic conquest at a time when conquest was accepted, why are they back in modern times to reconquer when conquest is no more accepted? Do you know the tribe that used to live on your village land 2,000 years ago? If their descendants show up now will you relinquish the land?
Gbadebo19:
Are you blind? Did you not see conquest?
The conquest is a biblical story, I agree. But you forget that it is the same biblical stories that ever established the first existence of the fundamental human right to religion in the code of Hammurabi.
Isn't it hypocritical to use biblical stories to establish the first ever documented human right and then turn against it when it talks about Jewish conquest?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:34pm On Nov 18, 2024
The idiot doesn't even know he has invalidated Israel's case by using the Biblical conquest notion of nationhood.
IMEI:
From stating:

"Who's giving you biblical stories?" to admitting that the whole basis of the claim of ownership, the conquest you mentioned, is a biblical story

You see why I don't take most of you seriously

If you believe biblical Jews conquering the land eons ago entitles them to claims of ownership today, then I guess Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical israel
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:36pm On Nov 18, 2024
You are such a liar. The jews were not the only people in the land under Rome. There were also Samaritans who were hated by the jews.
Gbadebo19:
Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical Israel. Definitely!!
This is the only sensible thing you have said in the last 17 years grin but you failed to realize that the Italians never lay claim to the land, they only established their government there and allowed the Jews to continue calling it theirs. In those times, you live according to the will of your captors.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 3:39pm On Nov 18, 2024
Obedience40:
That's why I don't entertain f**ls.

If you had followed the conversation I had with the other clown, you won't be here showcasing your stupidi+y. From the start I made it clear to the other clown to bring evidences of Just the YPG not the PKk/YPG.

Because what most Turkish propaganda media do is try to merge the two groups together. To create a false narrative that the YPG is a terrorist group by bringing them together.

You entered into the conversation without reading the conversation and starts bringing up rubbish.
oya, come shift am (goal post) as usual
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 3:42pm On Nov 18, 2024
Making Jew into an ethnicity is the biggest scam in history. Some white people in Europe affiliated themselves to some brown people in the middle east and pretended to be the same ethnic group with them simply because they both practice Judaism. That is the biggest fraud of the century. The only people legitimate to that land are Arab Jews. Before 1948, Arab jews lived alongside Arab muslims in Palestine. European jews came from Europe and created an ethnicity called 'Jew' so they can steal land that does not belong to them. God will punish them.
Lawag3:
Because The USA will bomb neighbours who join alliance with enemies doest make it right. It's still wrong.

No nation should be able to tell another sovereign nation what it can and should not do what organisations it can and can not join. You people call the US evil for trying to control other countries and now when the Russians do it it's allowed isn't that double standards.


You forget Arabs and Jews were leaving in the land abi nor be Una say before the Europeans came the Jews and Arabs lived in peace?

Jew are the indigenous people. Arabs are from Saudi Arabia. Jews are from Judea. Judea is Palestine

The UN did not create a country for Europeans. Only 40 percent of Jews in Israel are Jews from Europe the others are Jews from the middle East and North Africa chased by the Arabs during the 1945 Wars. European Jews have Jewish ancestry and DNA it has been proven so many times but you guys will never agree.


And yes Israel fought by itself against the Arabs but that isn't important in this conversation.


David and Solomon are names if Jewish origins not Arab names. Both were Jewish kings ruled from Jerusalem.


The shekel is over 2500 years old use Google sister it's an ancient Israelites currency.


Even the Palestinians will stone you for suggesting that they are related to Jews and the fact that they used to be Jews.


Palestinians are Arabs .



Either you research or You can die in your ignorance.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:44pm On Nov 18, 2024
petesunday:
You are such a liar. The jews were not the only people in the land under Rome. There were also Samaritans who were hated by the jews.
So, when the Fulani overtook northern Nigeria, did they kill all the existing Hausa people? The fact that the Hausa and Fulani people were living together, does it make the Hausa to have any valid claim to the land after the conquest?
So, if Samaritans and Jews were living together, it doesn't mean the Samaritans have any claim to the land. The conquest effectively abolished it except if the Emir or King allowed it in some instances which does not have any trace in the case of the Israelites and the Samaritans. Simple as ABC.
Think before you talk.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 3:48pm On Nov 18, 2024
Empiree:
Listen, I am trying to frustrate you with respect to Palestine. I am trying to use the same logic because you guys said Palestine did not exist before 1948. This is why I am asking you critical questions perhaps you may think.

So in order not to waste much of our time, what I am trying to tell you is that, when you people said Palestine did not exist on the map before 1948 when Israel was created, Nigeria too did not exist before 1960. Now, the Palestinian people existed on the land before 1948 but the people who called themselves Israelis today did not exist on the land before creation of Israel. They came from different European countries such as Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, Russia etc.

Similarly, the people called Nigerians always existed in the place called Nigeria but Nigeria as a country did not exist before then. Why?. Because the colonizers created the entity called Nigeria as a country but it doesn't means Nigerians did not exist. It is exactly the same thing with Palestinians.. They have always existed on their land before the British came. So to say Palestine did not exist before 1948 is a fraudulent statement. British could have occupied Nigeria till today and say there was nothing called Nigeria therefore the country belonged to the British just because Nigeria did not exist until British created it.

The same way the British occupied Nigeria is the same way these Europeans who called themselves Israelis are occupying Palestine. At some point they will eventually leave just like British left Nigeria.

So you guys should please stop nonesense that Palestine did not exist. The people of Palestine always existed on their land before these European squatters and settlers came. If you disagree with me then Nigeria also did not exist in 1914 and before 1960.

I know that the only reason many of you Nigerians support this Geno-State is for religious reasons. Sadly, you are not practicing the same religion.
........Pele ooo, all because of religion you put up this n*ns*nse epistle
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m):
petesunday:
Making Jew into an ethnicity is the biggest scam in history. Some white people in Europe affiliated themselves to some brown people in the middle east and pretended to be the same ethnic group with them simply because they both practice Judaism. That is the biggest fraud of the century. The only people legitimate to that land are Arab Jews. Before 1948, Arab jews lived alongside Arab muslims in Palestine. European jews came from Europe and created an ethnicity called 'Jew' so they can steal land that does not belong to them. God will punish them.
Shengbo weyrey. Before an Arab jew or European jew can exist, there must first of all be a jew that is neither Arab nor European. So, because some of the Jews fled from their homeland and lived in Europe makes them not to be Jews abi? Scumbag. All these rubbish Arab jew and European jew you are talking about are nothing but an adulterated version of an original Jew. The first xtian martyr, Stephen was a Greek jew. Even Paul that wrote the new testament was a Turkish jew. Adulterated version of Jews have been existing since time immemorial. Don't come and be saying nonsense that some Europeans gathered in 1948 and that they were not Jews. They were Jews, cest finis.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 4:02pm On Nov 18, 2024
WritterNg:
The West are playing Russian roulette.


They're on the edge and don't know which red line will trigger Russian retaliation.

Plus Russia is using it to garner sympathy from the rest of the world. So when it finally happens, the whole world will tell the story of how patient Russia was.

The west will no longer be able to rewrite that part of history.
lolz, hahahaha red line has no limit. Russia knows fully well any day they use nuke will mark their end. I trust Zelensky he won't hesitate to use ATACMS by coming weeks.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 4:06pm On Nov 18, 2024
WritterNg:
🇺🇦 🇺🇸
lolz is Kursk no longer Russia territory. Putard retard you want to change goalpost. West is calling the shot now, coward Putard redline in the mud. Hahahaha
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by timesupnababa: 4:07pm On Nov 18, 2024
okeysoninv:
lolz, hahahaha red line has no limit. Russia knows fully well any day they use nuke will mark their end. I trust Zelensky he won't hesitate to use ATACMS by coming weeks.
U be monkey wey dey chop shiit. Russia end? Cancer damage that ur pepeye mouth
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 4:13pm On Nov 18, 2024
⚡️Kan Channel: A suicide rope was found in the cell of Netanyahu's spokesman, who was arrested in the case of the fabricated Sinwar documents.

[G&T]
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Empiree: 4:13pm On Nov 18, 2024
petesunday:
Even inside the Bible, the Hebrews did not own the land originally. They had to destroy an entire nation as commanded by God to get the land.
exactly
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Empiree: 4:18pm On Nov 18, 2024
shoodboi2:
Ghostagain only elaborated on what you said. He believes the same thing as you. His quote was actually in response to the nonsense guy you replied to.
motayoayinde:
This must be meant for another person.
Ghostagain is Pro-Palestine
Oh okay. 👍
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 4:19pm On Nov 18, 2024
Vic2023:
oya, come shift am (goal post) as usual
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bring the link na, If he sure for you
let's see if the attack was against civilians.

M*m* man
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 4:21pm On Nov 18, 2024
🚨 Update:

After news of Netanyahu's military spokesman attempting suicide in his cell at a Shin Bet center after being accused of leaking secret documents... Deputy Speaker of the Knesset for Likud Nissim Vaturi said : "They will assassinate Feldstein to hide their failure."

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 4:23pm On Nov 18, 2024
Obedience40:
Bring the link na, If he sure for you
let's see if the attack was against civilians.

M*m* man
save the picture and Google lens it,it will bring you to that news site
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 4:24pm On Nov 18, 2024
📸 The Lebanese army base that was attacked on purpose by the Israeli army, killing 2.

About 36 Lebanese soldiers have been killed by the Israeli army in their bases or at work since Oct-23.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 4:27pm On Nov 18, 2024
okeysoninv:
lolz is Kursk no longer Russia territory. Putard retard you want to change goalpost. West is calling the shot now, coward Putard redline in the mud. Hahahaha
From don't send tanks, to don't send jets to don't send long range weapons, to threats against Finland from joining nato,

Putin is just a toothless bull dog all barks no bite
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 4:27pm On Nov 18, 2024
Vic2023:
save the picture and Google lens it,it will bring you to that news site
No be your evidence, bring the link na

😅
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 4:36pm On Nov 18, 2024
🥀 The Lebanese army mourned the martyrs, First Adjutant Bassam Ahmed Al-Zakhouri and First Corporal Muhammad Abdul Hadi Muhammad Hussein

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 4:36pm On Nov 18, 2024
timesupnababa:
U be monkey wey dey chop shiit. Russia end? Cancer damage that ur pepeye mouth
I curse you not but you will see it with your eyes
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:38pm On Nov 18, 2024
okeysoninv:
lolz is Kursk no longer Russia territory. Putard retard you want to change goalpost. West is calling the shot now, coward Putard redline in the mud. Hahahaha
When e go happen, hope say we no go see your rants here?

Because the issue here is not that Russia doesn't have the means to retaliate. They're just waiting for the right timing. The west wants it to be now, so as to derail Russia's plan.


Remember the same Putin warned about Ukraine since 2008. Look at where Ukraine is today.

Russians are patient and slow to put their foot down into something. But when they're in it, it is FINAL.

Russians, especially Putin do not make hasty decisions. They're quietly setting up things in motion that will hurt the west for years if not generations to come. And the west knows this very well. They have satellites and intel, they already see it happening which is why they're hoping on Russia being defeated.

You think this war is a 2 or 3 or 5 years war? Lol

The coming years will teach you alot about the Russians.

Ukraine will die a slow, painful death and there's nothing anyone will do about it. Zelensky too will die, that is certain.

Bit by bit, they'll lose territory.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:40pm On Nov 18, 2024
WritterNg:
When e go happen, hope say we no go see your rants here?

Because the issue here is not that Russia doesn't have the means to retaliate. They're just waiting for the right timing. The west wants it to be now, so as to derail Russia's plan.


Remember the same Putin warned about Ukraine since 2008. Look at where Ukraine is today.

Russians are patient and slow to put their foot down into something. But when they're in it, it is FINAL.

Russians, especially Putin do not make hasty decisions. They're quietly setting up things in motion that will hurt the west for years if not generations to come. And the west knows this very well. They have satellites and intel, they already see it happening which is why they're hoping on Russia being defeated.

You think this war is a 2 or 3 or 5 years war? Lol

The coming years will teach you alot about the Russians.

Ukraine will die a slow, painful death and there's nothing anyone will do about it. Zelensky too will die, that is certain.

Bit by bit, they'll lose territory.
So says the supreme commander of the elite storm Z unit of the second best army in Ukraine. grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 4:45pm On Nov 18, 2024
Putin the coward.

This brings me back to the cuba missiles crisis.
When then US president John F. Kennedy had to draw the line on the deployment of nukes on Cuba.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 4:56pm On Nov 18, 2024
WritterNg:
When e go happen, hope say we no go see your rants here?

Because the issue here is not that Russia doesn't have the means to retaliate. They're just waiting for the right timing. The west wants it to be now, so as to derail Russia's plan.


Remember the same Putin warned about Ukraine since 2008. Look at where Ukraine is today.

Russians are patient and slow to put their foot down into something. But when they're in it, it is FINAL.

Russians, especially Putin do not make hasty decisions. They're quietly setting up things in motion that will hurt the west for years if not generations to come. And the west knows this very well. They have satellites and intel, they already see it happening which is why they're hoping on Russia being defeated.

You think this war is a 2 or 3 or 5 years war? Lol

The coming years will teach you alot about the Russians.

Ukraine will die a slow, painful death and there's nothing anyone will do about it. Zelensky too will die, that is certain.

Bit by bit, they'll lose territory.
Please, slightly reduce the dosage of whatever you're smoking. You're hallucinating
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