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Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by dru23(m): 5:51pm On Nov 19, 2024
Mikelarteta:
Russia think say na only then get Nuclear weapon? You are the oppressor here and I don’t know why some people still supporting this idiot. You are not comfortable with them joining NATO and they have agreed, still you went ahead with your oppression against them. Any little thing you go Dey threaten with Nukes as if na only you get am.
Dont mind Putin . He invited over 10k North Korean soldiers to help him fight Urkraine.
And he wants Urkraine to fight him with 1 hand tied behind their back. He is dictating how Urkraine should fight him. If I didn't know any better I will think say Putin put jazz for mouth .....

The nerve of Putin and for anyone supporting him. The Urkraine themselves are ready and willing to fight for their freedom. The least we can do as humans beings with empathy is to support them
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by pook(m): 5:53pm On Nov 19, 2024
greggng:
Can you listen to yourself? The last time I checked Ukraine is an independent nation ...they don't need Russia permission to join any association . Usa doesn't prevent any of her nebors from joining any association . Brazil recently joined brets ...where Russia is the leader ...nobody is forcing them not to join . If Russia is Indeed a good country why all her nebors are interested in joining nato? No democratic country will not like to join nato for there protection against undemocratic country like Russia etc
After World War II, the USA formed an alliance called NATO, which the Soviet Union (now primarily led by Russia) did not want to be part of. The treaty includes documents about NATO's non-aggression towards the east a.k.a not moving it NATO base toward east, and every NATO member country has nuclear plants, infantry, or bases.

If Ukraine joins NATO, it means that the USA will have its bases close to Russia. If something happens in the future, the USA can easily attack Russia. Remember, this is just after World War II, and members of this treaty do not trust each other. It's a way of predicting the future that we are experiencing now.

Biden wants to start a war and make it difficult for Trump to make peace with Russia. An escalation will make Trump's tenure difficult and delicate.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by whatmoreng: 5:54pm On Nov 19, 2024
HydraFeeds:
To every sensible people on this forum ,what do you think will happen if Russia supply weapons to countries like Cuba or Mexico to strike US directly?
Did US invade or annex part of Mexico or Cuba?
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Meteng: 5:55pm On Nov 19, 2024
jUeLiZ:
Make Putin do him worse now.... grin

Everytime Nuclear threat like say na only Russia get nuclear weapons.... make Putin press the button if him get mind...
Exactly my line of thought my brother
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Yungbliss(m): 5:55pm On Nov 19, 2024
The West creating problems to everyone
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by cr7lomo: 5:59pm On Nov 19, 2024
blacksam01:
I love the guts if the Ukrainians... If Putin do anyhow.. they will fill Moscow with missiles... Not guilded ooo
Now u are loving their guts ...when Russia now starts their own...u will start crying genocide
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by dru23(m): 5:59pm On Nov 19, 2024
iLoveYouToo:
Not my business. Ukraine should’ve matched Russia’s energy from day 1, maybe this war would’ve ended sooner
They wanted and were ready. But the Biden administration didn't want to escalate things. Urkraine even beg and beg for more weapons to reach inside Moscow.

Biden decided to give Urkraine permission to use the USA made long range missles,when Putin decided to invite over 10k North Korean soldiers to posted at the Ukraine border..

Putin wants to dictate how Urkraine should fight him. He is indeed a mad man. He thinks na only him get monopoly on violence
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by xandy84: 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2024
Good observation but even Ukraine and US intelligence never gave them a chance. US intelligence predicted Kiev will fall two weeks max and when Ukraine army put up a stiff resistance and couple with incompetent of Russian army, everyone begin to reevaluate. This was the reason Sweden and Finland called Russia bluff and joined Nato cos if Ukraine without a single Navy could caused damaged to Russian navy, Finland with superior firepower will hold it own againt Russian aggression.
The US allowing UKraine to use it weapon in stages is to prevent escalation but also strategic cos Russia had shown the world it all back without bite. India and China will be salivating now cos they will walk all over Russia in couple of weeks. Europe is done fearing the Russian might cos it's all in name.















iLoveYouToo:
Not my business. Ukraine should’ve matched Russia’s energy from day 1, maybe this war would’ve ended sooner
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Harnny(m): 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2024
igbosarejews:
So, an Independent, sovereign nation don't have power to dictate what happens on its own territory again. But Russia can join BRICS and its own version of NATO.
Oga, you need to go and learn what is Sovereignty.

If Russia hasn't invaded Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova, Poland, Finland, non of its neighbors will even nurse the idea of joining NATO
oh! We want to discuss the independence of nations to make decisions yeah?. How independent are most nations and how much decisions do they actually make without the influence of someone from the western bloc?. Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya were all capable of making their decisions init? Very soon, you will hear so many propaganda against the AES and how they abuse human rights. Let them enter Chad, CAR and then..... DRC. That is when the real problem will begin.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by smallsmall: 6:05pm On Nov 19, 2024
Princedapace:
This is exactly what Russia will do. They will arm those brutal guys and US and her allies will hear too.
Las las, everything go scatter and humanity go rest. From the one, the problem here is US.
How would U feel if Ur friend suddenly starts befrieding Ur babe?
US is a very wicked country and until Americans have a taste of war inside America, they will not learn.
Aside from that, there are Three Issues here, that most people praising Ukraine now, are not aware of:

1) Ukraine has a very limited amount of these long Range Missiles (ATACMS) and they will soon run out of it.
Russia on the other hand, has a Pile of Hypersonic Missiles of various types that can reach and burn anywhere in Ukraine.

2) The "Approval" given to Ukraine by America, is a LIMITED ONE, and it is to use the ATACMS against Russia border regions ONLY and in Kursk.
Why is that?
- The Maximum Range of these Missiles, are just about 300Km, it wont even go much into Russian heartland.

- America has a shortage of the ATACMS Missiles.
Infact, General Loyd Austin (American equivalent of our COAS), told Zelensky last week that "The US has an obligation, first and foremost, to its Clients who have paid for these Missiles in advance and would supply them to those Client first, before considering Ukraine!".

- He also said that America cannot deplete its own stock of Missiles, just to satisfy Ukraine because that would put American Security in jeopardy.
- So, America will not supply additional ATACMS to Ukraine, Trump is taking Office soon and wont approve additional Supply, so what happens, when the few ATACMS Ukraine was given, runs out?
Meanwhile, Russia is rolling out Supersonic Missiles, at an alarming rate, not to mention its Drone production, which even EU Generals have said is "shocking".

3) Russia has been expecting that "Genocide Joe" will give this "ATACMS approval" very soon, for some time now and has moved all its Weapons Storage, Attack Planes and Helicopters, all strategic Assets..... out of the range of the ATACMS Missile, which is just about 300Km.

- Gen. Loyd Austin told Zelensky this, arguing that using ATACMS now, will not give Ukraine any "strategic advantage" in the War.
If anyone is in-doubt about this, let them provide any Video from any source, that shows the damage the Six ATACMS that Ukraine fired, damaging any Significant Russian Military Asset. grin

At best, Zelensky will kill a few Russians and damage a few buildings, in the border Region and maybe hold unto Kursk, the Russian border City, for a little longer, since they are being encircled already. Then he would fold.
He doesn't even have the ManPower (Soldiers) to pursue this War anymore.
His Soldiers are poorly trained Conscripts, forcefully snatched on the Streets and they are deserting or surrendering in droves.

What l am more worried about, is what the Russian Response to this attack, will be.
A lot of Ukrainians will "freeze-to-kpai" this Winter, because Russia will attack their Energy Infrastructure so badly.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by ObiaboAdoka(m): 6:05pm On Nov 19, 2024
nurey:
Nigeria to soon fire Long range missiles to Niger and the coup plotters tagged show of strength by Giant of Africa
Y using Indian driller to show case ur long range missiles.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by dru23(m): 6:07pm On Nov 19, 2024
greggng:
Can you listen to yourself? The last time I checked Ukraine is an independent nation ...they don't need Russia permission to join any association . Usa doesn't prevent any of her nebors from joining any association . Brazil recently joined brets ...where Russia is the leader ...nobody is forcing them not to join . If Russia is Indeed a good country why all her nebors are interested in joining nato? No democratic country will not like to join nato for there protection against undemocratic country like Russia etc
God bless you my brother. Most of Putin supporters are very uneducated or uninformed psychopath...

To summarize it. After the break up of USSR in the 1990's . Ukraine had one of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Russian,USA,and Great Britain force them to give up in an exchange for peace, protection and to be sovereign nation. They gave it up on a good will bases hoping everyone with abide by the agreement.....

Urkraine no get wahala. They want to be left alone peacefully. I have to give them respect they are willing to fight and die for their freedom
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by F117nighthawk: 6:08pm On Nov 19, 2024
Putin is just a bloody noise maker,he is only making empty treaths , Ukraine that doesn't near match him militarily is giving him nightmares even with the fact that they are being supplied arms by the west.he had to humble himself by depending on North Korea and Iran for basic drones and missiles.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by xandy84: 6:09pm On Nov 19, 2024
Did you read what you wrote. Over 800km of Russia border is Finland and Sweden who are Nato members. They joined Nato because of Russia agression towards Ukraine and why did Putin not attack both countries? He did not cos those two countries has superior firepower when compared to Ukraine and he was thinking Ukraine will be a walk in the park. This war has opposed Russia and Putin are all noise and nobody cares about him now. Before the war, Ukraine will not in.millions years fire towards Russia but now, it's daily occurance and even attacks people inside Russia.














pook:
After World War II, the USA formed an alliance called NATO, which the Soviet Union (now primarily led by Russia) did not want to be part of. The treaty includes documents about NATO's non-aggression towards the east a.k.a not moving it NATO base toward east, and every NATO member country has nuclear plants, infantry, or bases.

If Ukraine joins NATO, it means that the USA will have its bases close to Russia. If something happens in the future, the USA can easily attack Russia. Remember, this is just after World War II, and members of this treaty do not trust each other. It's a way of predicting the future that we are experiencing now.

Biden wants to start a war and make it difficult for Trump to make peace with Russia. An escalation will make Trump's tenure difficult and delicate.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Class01: 6:10pm On Nov 19, 2024
jUeLiZ:
Make Putin do him worse now.... grin

Everytime Nuclear threat like say na only Russia get nuclear weapons.... make Putin press the button if him get mind...
It was wrong to escalate this war futher at this stage in all seriousness but apparently some of Una like wahala. I just hope I can tag you in few days time for subsequent events on this topic.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Class01: 6:12pm On Nov 19, 2024
Mikelarteta:
Russia think say na only then get Nuclear weapon? You are the oppressor here and I don’t know why some people still supporting this idiot. You are not comfortable with them joining NATO and they have agreed, still you went ahead with your oppression against them. Any little thing you go Dey threaten with Nukes as if na only you get am.
Well I wish we can exchange the idiot with the one in Aso Rock.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Class01: 6:15pm On Nov 19, 2024
xandy84:
Did you read what you wrote. Over 800km of Russia border is Finland and Sweden who are Nato members. They joined Nato because of Russia agression towards Ukraine and why did Putin not attack both countries? He did not cos those two countries has superior firepower when compared to Ukraine and he was thinking Ukraine will be a walk in the park. This war has opposed Russia and Putin are all noise and nobody cares about him now. Before the war, Ukraine will not in.millions years fire towards Russia but now, it's daily occurance and even attacks people inside Russia.
I wonder what some of you re reading or getting your analysis from.

The move by NATO to get Finland and the rest into the block was to force Russia to open the war in different front. Thereby creating weakness on Russia side.
But if you know you know. Their membership will be used as a bargaining tools in a bit so distance future from now.

Abeg make we face the problem way face us for Naija.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by smallsmall: 6:18pm On Nov 19, 2024
About Ukraine POSSESSING and GIVING-UP Nuclear Weapons and The ASSURANCES it was given:

1) I have read a few HERE, saying that Ukraine gave-up its Nuclear Weapon.
This statement is the usual Ignorant statements that people make, because they dont research what they are talking about and just say what they heard on MSM.
The fact here, is that[b] Ukraine NEVER HAD any Nuclear Weapon[/b], Period.
Explanation:
- For the records, USSR (as a single country, with its Capital and largest City, as Moscow), is the OWNER of all Nukes within its borders.
- Ukraine was one of the Cities of USSR, just like Moscow, which was the largest City and Capital.

- Moscow (now part of Russia), was the seat of Government of USSR and controlled access to all their Nukes. (A Nuke is not just the Missile alone, the most important things are the "Launch Codes", without which, the Nuke is just a piece of explosive, not different from any other conventional bomb.)
- Moscow OWENED all the Nukes of USSR.

- USSR has its Nukes STORED in different parts of the USSR, including in the City of Ukraine but the Cities themselves and by themselves. do not have control over the Nukes, except from the Capital and largest City, MOSCOW.

- Ukraine never OWNED, nor have CONTROL over any of the USSR Nukes STORED in its City.
They all belong to USSR and the Centre of that USSR-Government, was Moscow.

- When the USSR dissolved, the constituents Cities were seeking Independence, not all at the same time, but at different times, close to each other though.
- Ukraine broke-away and at that point, it was instructed to surrender all the Nukes stored on its territory, by Moscow (now Represented and Capital of Russia).

- Even if the Nukes were left on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine could not operate them because it does not have access to the launch codes.
Ukraine dutifully handed over the Nukes, to Russia.

- Also, the "Black Sea, Nuclear Submarine fleet" was stationed in Ukraine, under USSR.
It was also asked to hand them over to the Nation which succeeded USSR, that is Russia.

- In return, Ukraine asked for "Protection and assurances" for its security, which Russia and some other Powers promised.

I am saying all these, to let us know what transpired back then and to put an end to this false notion that Ukraine OWNED Nuclear Weapons at any point in time, in its History since 1991.

It is like saying 'River State' OWNS all the Oil Wells "of Nigeria", despite being on its Land?
That was one of the reasons Biafra (which had annexed the South-South, including Rivers, Delta, Edo and Bayelsa of today, as part of Biafra in 1968) could not be actualized, in the Civil War because there is no way Nigeria would have let-go of such "Resources", to a breakaway part of it.
There is No way Russia would have allowed Ukraine to keep those "Nukes and nuclear Submarines", and hand-over the Launch Codes to Ukraine.

Russia was the "succeeding Nation" to USSR, the owner of Moscow (its Capital) and the Nukes belongs to Moscow /Russia.
That is the way the World works.

2) Now, Let us talk about those ASSURANCES that Russia (and the US), gave Ukraine, back then in 1991:

- Those Assurances of 1991 given to Ukraine[/b, were PREMISED on [b]Ukraine not becoming a Hostile Nation to Russia.]

- Today, we know that Ukraine is not only a "Proxy and Pawn" for NATO war on Russia, it is also actively killing "Ethnic Russians" on its territory, It is burning their Churches, forbidding their language, bombing their Homes and it even made a failed attempt to occupy Russian territory of Kursk.
This means the "Condition for the Assurances" have been violated and Russia does not owe any apology, for not honoring the Assurances anymore.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Chetas81(m): 6:18pm On Nov 19, 2024
jUeLiZ:
Make Putin do him worse now.... grin

Everytime Nuclear threat like say na only Russia get nuclear weapons.... make Putin press the button if him get mind...
i hope you can defend the nuclear Weapons in your government asena🥱
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by igbosarejews(m):
pook:
After World War II, the USA formed an alliance called NATO, which the Soviet Union (now primarily led by Russia) did not want to be part of. The treaty includes documents about NATO's non-aggression towards the east a.k.a not moving it NATO base toward east, and every NATO member country has nuclear plants, infantry, or bases.

If Ukraine joins NATO, it means that the USA will have its bases close to Russia. If something happens in the future, the USA can easily attack Russia. Remember, this is just after World War II, and members of this treaty do not trust each other. It's a way of predicting the future that we are experiencing now.

Biden wants to start a war and make it difficult for Trump to make peace with Russia. An escalation will make Trump's tenure difficult and delicate.
You're a bloody lier.

NATO refused Ukraine Joining it since 2008, when Ukraine and other non NATO members then, were sacred of Russian invasion.
Before Ukraine, NATO already has its boarders with Lithuania and Estonian, has NATO invaded Russia since then.
You guys need to grow up and stop supporting the idiot despot called Putin. If Russia was to be a democratic country, this war shouldn't have happened.
Power corrupt and absolute power corrupt absolutely.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by jUeLiZ: 6:20pm On Nov 19, 2024
Class01:
It was wrong to escalate this war futher at this stage in all seriousness but apparently some of Una like wahala. I just hope I can tag you in few days time for subsequent events on this topic.
Putin should not have approved the NK troops in to the war. It a war decision that risk escalation, Putin knew that. Already Russia is bigger than Ukraine in all ramifications, why bring in NK troops....I pray both sides come to the table soon ..
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by dru23(m): 6:21pm On Nov 19, 2024
smallsmall:
Aside from that, there are Three Issues here, that most people praising Ukraine now, are not aware of:

1) Ukraine has a very limited amount of these long Range Missiles (ATACMS) and they will soon run out of it.
Russia on the other hand, has a Pile of Hypersonic Missiles of various types that can reach and burn anywhere in Ukraine.

2) The "Approval" given to Ukraine by America, is a LIMITED ONE, and it is to use the ATACMS against Russia border regions ONLY and in Kursk.
Why is that?
- The Maximum Range of these Missiles, are just about 300Km, it wont even go much into Russian heartland.

- America has a shortage of the ATACMS Missiles.
Infact, General Loyd Austin (American equivalent of our COAS), told Zelensky last week that "The US has an obligation, first and foremost, to its Clients who have paid for these Missiles in advance and would supply them to those Client first, before considering Ukraine!".

- He also said that America cannot deplete its own stock of Missiles, just to satisfy Ukraine because that would put American Security in jeopardy.
- So, America will not supply additional ATACMS to Ukraine, Trump is taking Office soon and wont approve additional Supply, so what happens, when the few ATACMS Ukraine was given, runs out?
Meanwhile, Russia is rolling out Supersonic Missiles, at an alarming rate, not to mention its Drone production, which even EU Generals have said is "shocking".

3) Russia has been expecting that "Genocide Joe" will give this "ATACMS approval" very soon, for some time now and has moved all its Weapons Storage, Attack Planes and Helicopters, all strategic Assets..... out of the range of the ATACMS Missile, which is just about 300Km.

- Gen. Loyd Austin told Zelensky this, arguing that using ATACMS now, will not give Ukraine any "strategic advantage" in the War.
If anyone is in-doubt about this, let them provide any Video from any source, that shows the damage the Six ATACMS that Ukraine fired, damaging any Significant Russian Military Asset. grin

At best, Zelensky will kill a few Russians and damage a few buildings, in the border Region and maybe hold unto Kursk, the Russian border City, for a little longer, since they are being encircled already. Then he would fold.
He doesn't even have the ManPower (Soldiers) to pursue this War anymore.
His Soldiers are poorly trained Conscripts, forcefully snatched on the Streets and they are deserting or surrendering in droves.

What l am more worried about, is what the Russian Response to this attack, will be.
A lot of Ukrainians will "freeze-to-kpai" this Winter, because Russia will attack their Energy Infrastructure so badly.
I agree on some point you said. The long range missles is still a game changer otherwise Putin will not be bitching up and down to use nukes. He thinks na only him get monopoly on violence...

That been said I agree that the USA might not have enough long range missles to dash out to Urkraine. But those missiles if used strategically will damage Russian weapons Depot and kill more Russian troops. Keep in mind Putin as invited over 10k North soldiers. Those North Korean soldiers are very poorly trained and equipped. It shows you that Russians are lacking enough man power. Trust me Urkraine will use those missiles effectively. And the Biden administration is ramping up more aids and weapons to Urkraine before Trump takes over....

Trump said he can end the war in less than 24hrs if elected. Biden said hold my walking stick , will see about that lol 😆.

Keep in mind that Biden administration and his allies are talking on how to help Ukraine as much as possible before he leaves office. And no be everything dey go dey talk for tv. They are some behind scenes moves that the public is not privy to
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Chetas81(m): 6:22pm On Nov 19, 2024
HydraFeeds:
To every sensible people on this forum ,what do you think will happen if Russia supply weapons to countries like Cuba or Mexico to strike US directly?
the senseless Nigerian wont answer you
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by jUeLiZ: 6:25pm On Nov 19, 2024
Aboki99:
Because you support plunging the world in to ww3 which Biden is trying to do to take everyone down with him for fear of Trump paying him and his cohorts back in their good coins.
Relax, there's not going to be ww3. Btw Putin could have asked North Korea for weapons rather than deploying North Korean troops in the war. It's was a decision. And if there is ww3 eventually, you have to blame Putin for that.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by babaowambe: 6:30pm On Nov 19, 2024
Most people don't realise that nuclear weapons are one of the most deadliest weapons to exist,even a madman will think twice before using them,even the USA was forced to use them the only time they were used and thousands of people were vaporised in an instant
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Chetas81(m): 6:30pm On Nov 19, 2024
iwaeda:
Ogun agbaye keta febere. Word War III, loaded. grin grin grin grin grin
miracle can protect you lol
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Kavod: 6:34pm On Nov 19, 2024
Botragelad:
What have they been doing for the past 2+ yrs? 😂
INSTEAD MAKE WE DE CHANT SAY NO MORE WAR, WE DE LOOK FOR WHO STRONG PASS AND WHENEVER THEY NEED MORE FUNDS TO FUND THESE WARS NA AFRICA AND HER RESOURCES GO CRY AND STILL YET THEM GO OVER VALUE THEIR CURRENCY AND DEPRECIATE OUR TO KEEP AFLOAT.

BY THE WAY IF RUSSIA WANTS TO TAKE OVER UKRAINE WITH THE SAME METHODS THE WEST USE ALL THE TIME, IT WONT TAKE 8 HOURS.
SEE WAR FOR TWO YEARS PLUS, HOW MANY DEVASTATING PIXS HAVE YOU SEEN OF WOMEN AND KIDS DIEING? SEE GAZA OF ONE YEAR PLUS?

NOTE!!!! THE MEDIA FAVORS ISREAL AND TRY TO HIDE THEIR ATROCITIES FROM THE MEDIA BUT AGAINST RUSSIA.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Johncarlo07: 6:34pm On Nov 19, 2024
ceejay80s:
.but China and north korea supply u people too na
why USA own dey pain una
Naso una goard dem on till Russia collect 20% of deir land. USA approved or not Ukraine go still dey collect steady.
In d end, none of d lands will go back to Ukraine.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by Johncarlo07: 6:38pm On Nov 19, 2024
BlocksNG:
sweet, WriterNG should go and di** The numbers of Isreal and US undeclared nuclear arsenals will wow any nation, dey play.
Nd Wu told u, Russia own has all been declared?
In ur minute brain, u might even say, a tiny nation lyk Israel has more nuclear Arsenal Dan Russia.
Western fanboys nd delusion.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by dru23(m): 6:43pm On Nov 19, 2024
smallsmall:
About Ukraine POSSESSING and GIVING-UP Nuclear Weapons and The ASSURANCES it was given:

1) I have read a few HERE, saying that Ukraine gave-up its Nuclear Weapon.
This statement is the usual Ignorant statements that people make, because they dont research what they are talking about and just say what they heard on MSM.
The fact here, is that[b] Ukraine NEVER HAD any Nuclear Weapon[/b], Period.
Explanation:
- For the records, USSR (as a single country, with its Capital and largest City, as Moscow), is the OWNER of all Nukes within its borders.
- Ukraine was one of the Cities of USSR, just like Moscow, which was the largest City and Capital.

- Moscow (now part of Russia), was the seat of Government of USSR and controlled access to all their Nukes. (A Nuke is not just the Missile alone, the most important things are the "Launch Codes", without which, the Nuke is just a piece of explosive, not different from any other conventional bomb.)
- Moscow OWENED all the Nukes of USSR.

- USSR has its Nukes STORED in different parts of the USSR, including in the City of Ukraine but the Cities themselves and by themselves. do not have control over the Nukes, except from the Capital and largest City, MOSCOW.

- Ukraine never OWNED, nor have CONTROL over any of the USSR Nukes STORED in its City.
They all belong to USSR and the Centre of that USSR-Government, was Moscow.

- When the USSR dissolved, the constituents Cities were seeking Independence, not all at the same time, but at different times, close to each other though.
- Ukraine broke-away and at that point, it was instructed to surrender all the Nukes stored on its territory, by Moscow (now Represented and Capital of Russia).

- Even if the Nukes were left on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine could not operate them because it does not have access to the launch codes.
Ukraine dutifully handed over the Nukes, to Russia.

- Also, the "Black Sea, Nuclear Submarine fleet" was stationed in Ukraine, under USSR.
It was also asked to hand them over to the Nation which succeeded USSR, that is Russia.

- In return, Ukraine asked for "Protection and assurances" for its security, which Russia and some other Powers promised.

I am saying all these, to let us know what transpired back then and to put an end to this false notion that Ukraine OWNED Nuclear Weapons at any point in time, in its History since 1991.

It is like saying 'River State' OWNS all the Oil Wells "of Nigeria", despite being on its Land?
That was one of the reasons Biafra (which had annexed the South-South, including Rivers, Delta, Edo and Bayelsa of today, as part of Biafra in 1968) could not be actualized, in the Civil War because there is no way Nigeria would have let-go of such "Resources", to a breakaway part of it.
There is No way Russia would have allowed Ukraine to keep those "Nukes and nuclear Submarines", and hand-over the Launch Codes to Ukraine.

Russia was the "succeeding Nation" to USSR, the owner of Moscow (its Capital) and the Nukes belongs to Moscow /Russia.
That is the way the World works.

2) Now, Let us talk about those ASSURANCES that Russia (and the US), gave Ukraine, back then in 1991:

- Those Assurances of 1991 given to Ukraine[/b, were PREMISED on [b]Ukraine not becoming a Hostile Nation to Russia.]

- Today, we know that Ukraine is not only a "Proxy and Pawn" for NATO war on Russia, it is also actively killing "Ethnic Russians" on its territory, It is burning their Churches, forbidding their language, bombing their Homes and it even made a failed attempt to occupy Russian territory of Kursk.
This means the "Condition for the Assurances" have been violated and Russia does not owe any apology, for not honoring the Assurances anymore.
I agree with you 50/50. Urkraine might not have nuclear weapons, but nuclear warheads . And also they didn't have the codes to launch them ....

That been said Russian, Great Britain and the USA force them to give them up in exchange for a sovereign State and protection and peace. They were given millions of dollars to disarm for reason.

And the reason is that so the Urkraine will not be nuclear threat. Urkraine at that could still develope those outdated weapons and figure out way to revamp them . Urkraine are not brain Dead, if Iran is capable of trying to develope nuclear weapons, what about Urkraine that has the capability to updated in no time... So those nuclear weapons or warheads were bargaining chips to dislonge Urkraine from been a super power
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by pook(m): 6:43pm On Nov 19, 2024
igbosarejews:
You're a bloody lier.

NATO refused Ukraine Joining it since 2008, when Ukraine and other non NATO members then, were sacred of Russian invasion.
Before Ukraine, NATO already has its boarders with Lithuania and Estonian, has NATO invaded Russia since then.
You guys need to grow up and stop supporting the idiot despot called Putin. If Russia was to be a democratic country, this was shouldn't have happened.
Power corrupt and absolute power corrupt absolutely.
I'm an observer as you but commenting what transpire to the war drum. As you can see USA influence has moved to Europe which they are not part of. Remember in a normal clime Russia should be calling the bigger shot in Europe. And its a fight between two world power. 



We will be damn not to think that this two country have not been firing back at each other. Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, Israel are all proxy to either USA or Russia.



As it was revealed lately Hezbollah base was discovered to harbour lots of new Russian weapons. Don't be deceived to think Russia will respond to the ACTCAM missile, they will use this proxy to hurt USA.



I pray the two country don't start a direct attack, it will have an impact to our economy. Nigeria Naira relies on world trade major currency which will further spell our reality.
Re: Ukraine Fires Us-supplied Long Range Missiles Into Russia, Defence Ministry Says by richeeyo(m): 6:45pm On Nov 19, 2024
CrossRhodes:
So did Russia use it against anyone yet?
You don't understand what he means, saying evertime threat
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