₦airaland Forum

Fearurcreeator:
Na yeye man na , igbos don like am now. Obj think we don forget , then who dare talk

He's a hero in lgb0 land now.

JagabanBorgu:
He's a hero in lgb0 land now.

Lolz ... Those ones ehn , anything to feed their yeye narative is welcomed

JagabanBorgu:
U are typing rûbbîsh my friend, I don't expect any reasonable write up from obidents on a normal tho.

Yeah
You made a lot of sense
You see what I told you? If I stay you won't be able to withstand it.
Who is lying now?

JagabanBorgu:
I can count several wrong things obj did, destroyed railways, destroyed ALSCON, destroyed Nigerian Airways, destroyed NITEL, destroyed our refineries, destroyed ajaokuta steel mines, I can on and on.
We were well positioned in international community before OBJ came on board so he didn't reposition us, infrastructural development was at an all time low under OBJ, now we are talking about OBJ, when we want to make political comparisons, tag me and I will make the comparison and u will see.
Only people who lacked self awareness under OBJ will ever praise him.

Show me Nigeria's developmental indices in 1999 bfor ObJ. Show me Nigeria's status bfor ObJ took over, Nigeria was a pariah state.
Show me Nigeria's debt bfor ObJ took over, nd how it was wen he left.

U can accuse him of many tins. Bt ObJ is by far beta Dan our current crop of leaders. Expecially Buhari nd Tinubu.

All wat u said he destroyed, where national assets Dat were nationalized for effective performances. U can fault d process of privatisation, bt saying he was d one Dat destroyed dem. How?

I dare u to upload developmental indices for d trio nd let's c.

Johncarlo07:
Show me Nigeria's developmental indices in 1999 bfor ObJ. Show me Nigeria's status bfor ObJ took over, Nigeria was a pariah state.
Show me Nigeria's debt bfor ObJ took over, nd how it was wen he left.

U can accuse him of many tins. Bt ObJ is by far beta Dan our current crop of leaders. Expecially Buhari nd Tinubu.

All wat u said he destroyed, where national assets Dat were nationalized for effective performances. U can fault d process of privatisation, bt saying he was d one Dat destroyed dem. How?

I dare u to upload developmental indices for d trio nd let's c.

U are asking for indices of development?
I'm sure when OBJ was president, u were still a kid that Iàcks seIf awareness.
Every human being in his right señsès know that OBJ is the probIem Nigeria is facing today, what infrastructural development did OBJ carry out in his 8 year tenure?
Nigerian Airways was nationalized for effective performance by closing it down without paying the workers?
Do u have any self awareness when the workers were protesting?
He nationalized NITEL by crumbling it?
He nationalized ALSCON by withdrawing it from a Nigerian collection of business men who and selling it to Russians who made their bid in their language and offered money way less than what Nigerians paid for it?
How's ALSCON doing now?
How many railways did OBJ construct, rather he crumbled existing ones.
It was under OBJ that Bonny-Bodo bridge was given out as contract, the money disappeared and no work was done.
It was under OBJ that Abacha's Ioot was returned but even SFG dón't know it's whereabouts.
"Food no d, brother water no d and our no good o..." That song was made under OBJ.
"Nigeria jaga jaga" was made Uber OBJ.
These are developmental indices I just uploaded.
OBJ don't have any moral justification to taIk about good governance.

JagabanBorgu:
U are asking for indices of development?
I'm sure when OBJ was president, u were still a kid that Iàcks seIf awareness.
Every human being in his right señsès know that OBJ is the probIem Nigeria is facing today, what infrastructural development did OBJ carry out in his 8 year tenure?
Nigerian Airways was nationalized for effective performance by closing it down without paying the workers?
Do u have any self awareness when the workers were protesting?
He nationalized NITEL by crumbling it?
He nationalized ALSCON by withdrawing it from a Nigerian collection of business men who and selling it to Russians who made their bid in their language and offered money way less than what Nigerians paid for it?
How's ALSCON doing now?
How many railways did OBJ construct, rather he crumbled existing ones.
It was under OBJ that Bonny-Bodo bridge was given out as contract, the money disappeared and no work was done.
It was under OBJ that Abacha's Ioot was returned but even SFG dón't know it's whereabouts.
"Food no d, brother water no d and our no good o..." That song was made under OBJ.
"Nigeria jaga jaga" was made Uber OBJ.
These are developmental indices I just uploaded.
OBJ don't have any moral justification to taIk about good governance.

U shld shush ur mouth wen talking abt age here.
For me to defend obj, dats to tell u am much more older nd matured wen he was president.

Was it obj Dat sold or privatised d Power sector too? Why is d sector nt working today?

Was it only during obj tenure Dat Abacha loots were returned? No! Wat happened to odas Dat were returned under successive governments.

Wat was Nigeria's debt under obj nd hw much wen he left?
How much was in d ECA wen Obj left? Wu depleted it?
It was objs privatisation efforts in d telecommunication sector Dat brought GSM Dat employs thousands of people nd is bringing billions in revenue to d Nigerian government today. Soo why rubbish his efforts nd deny his achievements too.

Twas obj Dat established EFCC nd ICPC nd dey tried notable government officials den. Wat happened now?
Twas Obj Dat built d National stadium Abuja.

U talked abt railway, how functional was d railway system bfor he took ova?
How functional was Nigeria Airways bfor Obj took over.

Lyk I said, u can accuse him of many tins, bt compared to dose Dat came afta him, he is d best.

Don't even understand how a Tinubu supporter can castigate obj. It beggars belief!

JagabanBorgu:
U are not patriot, a patriot won't tag every election as bàd because people he doesn't Iike are winning it.
A patriot won't listen to OBJ, OBJ don't have any moral ground to talk about elections or how to make Nigeria better, he laid foundation for every wrong thing happening today so he doesn't have anything to say other than apologizing, this is what a patriot should know.

So patriot should endorse widespread irregularities just because OBJ was amongst those calling it out?

I have no interest in who wins any election as far as the process reflects the will of the people.

Can't you see the voters apathy ongoing cos people have given up on Mahmood? A patriot will be worried.

But you don't care as far as APC is rigging. I bet you were even with PDP when they were rigging and supporting them. Most APC politicians migrated from PDP hence the term "PDAPC"

Fair weather patriot

Morizo:
So patriot should endorse widespread irregularities just because OBJ was amongst those calling it out?

I have no interest in who wins any election as far as the process reflects the will of the people.

Can't you see the voters apathy ongoing cos people have given up on Mahmood? A patriot will be worried.

But you don't care as far as APC is rigging. I bet you were even with PDP when they were rigging and supporting them. Most APC politicians migrated from PDP hence the term "PDAPC"

Fair weather patriot

A patriot won't listen to OBJ when he's talking about good governance whether he's right or not, that's a basic rule for a patriot in Nigeria.
A patriot always have interest in who leads their country, in our case, whoever leads our country is the political winner, so if u don't have interest in who leads ur country, u are clearly not a patriot.
There's no voter aparthy going on anywhere, historically, governorship election don't received attention or same votes like presidential election, that's how it has always been even before Mahmood became INEC chairperson, a patriot should have known this.
Personally, if I have the right to vote in states like Oyo and Nasarawa, I will always vote PDP candidates ahead of APC candidates, in the last election, I voted for PDP, APC as well as SDP, I don't tag a party as bàd Iike u just did while pretending to be a patriot.
U see the difference between a patriot and a pàîñed Ioser now?

The only time u will see me talking about party is when someone brings a discussion about what happened under PDP or APC, and I am not a party supporter, I choose individuals that I prefer their style of governance no matter their party.

Johncarlo07:
U shld shush ur mouth wen talking abt age here.
For me to defend obj, dats to tell u am much more older nd matured wen he was president.

Was it obj Dat sold or privatised d Power sector too? Why is d sector nt working today?

Was it only during obj tenure Dat Abacha loots were returned? No! Wat happened to odas Dat were returned under successive governments.

Wat was Nigeria's debt under obj nd hw much wen he left?
How much was in d ECA wen Obj left? Wu depleted it?
It was objs privatisation efforts in d telecommunication sector Dat brought GSM Dat employs thousands of people nd is bringing billions in revenue to d Nigerian government today. Soo why rubbish his efforts nd deny his achievements too.

Twas obj Dat established EFCC nd ICPC nd dey tried notable government officials den. Wat happened now?
Twas Obj Dat built d National stadium Abuja.

U talked abt railway, how functional was d railway system bfor he took ova?
How functional was Nigeria Airways bfor Obj took over.

Lyk I said, u can accuse him of many tins, bt compared to dose Dat came afta him, he is d best.

Don't even understand how a Tinubu supporter can castigate obj. It beggars belief!

OBJ brought GSM for his personal benefits, if u were old enough like u just claimed, do u have any idea about MTEL?
OBJ dèstroyed it just to bring in telecommunication network that will benefit him.
I see u technically avoided the case of ALSCON.
OBJ brought EFCC and ICPC, tell us how those outfits stopped him and his minions from Ióótîñg people's common weaIth.
Only kids defèñd OBJ, it's that simple, if u were oId enough to see Nigerians on the streets protesting the closure of Nigerian Airways, if u were old enough to see how OBJ bastardized the country that the common man basically had no hope, u wóñ't be typing the nonsense u are typing, the achievement of the first president in our well and permanently established democracy was not solidifying democracy and growth but establishing EFCC and ICPC, building stadium, reducing debt.

OBJ just gave advice about INEC that's where our talk started from, how great was INEC during his tenure?
I'm he always conducted free and fair elections right?
Under his reign, a senator that later became a senate president in David Mark told his constituency that if only him and his family vote for him, he will still win election, somehow, he won that election, that's how great OBJ and INEC were.
OBJ said "... election is a do or die affair for me" same OBJ is giving advice about INEC today.
Sit out this discussion, it's above what u can defend.

JagabanBorgu:
OBJ brought GSM for his personal benefits, if u were old enough like u just claimed, do u have any idea about MTEL?
OBJ dèstroyed it just to bring in telecommunication network that will benefit him.
I see u technically avoided the case of ALSCON.
OBJ brought EFCC and ICPC, tell us how those outfits stopped him and his minions from Ióótîñg people's common weaIth.
Only kids defèñd OBJ, it's that simple, if u were oId enough to see Nigerians on the streets protesting the closure of Nigerian Airways, if u were old enough to see how OBJ bastardized the country that the common man basically had no hope, u wóñ't be typing the nonsense u are typing, the achievement of the first president in our well and permanently established democracy was not solidifying democracy and growth but establishing EFCC and ICPC, building stadium, reducing debt.

OBJ just gave advice about INEC that's where our talk started from, how great was INEC during his tenure?
I'm he always conducted free and fair elections right?
Under his reign, a senator that later became a senate president in David Mark told his constituency that if only him and his family vote for him, he will still win election, somehow, he won that election, that's how great OBJ and INEC were.
OBJ said "... election is a do or die affair for me" same OBJ is giving advice about INEC today.
Sit out this discussion, it's above what u can defend.

I don't knw wat ur driving at gangan. Pls let me knw.

Frm d beginning, I nva told u Obj is a saint. Nd statistics nd developmental frm 1999 show he performed better Dan odas afta him.

Pls show d statistics let d world see.
U said he brought GSM to benefit himself, yet Dat same telecommunication is feeding millions of pple, employing thousands nd paying revenue in trillions of dollars to d Nigerian government currently.
U talked abt Mtel. Now! Tell me how many government companies nd corporations functions efficiently on deir own even wit billions pumped into dem?
Soo if he decides to transfer ownership to private individuals for proper management nd effectiveness: is Dat a sin?

Obj built 12 power stations during his time, how many did dose under him built?
Obj brought back d middle class. Do we still av it now?
U said despite creating anti corruption agencies, he nd his minions still loot. Even in saner climes, despite strong anti corruption law: pple still loot. It's now left for successive governments to create more laws to make dose agencies more functional. Afta all government is a continuum. Did dey do Dat? No!

U said d common man had no hope under OBJ🤣🤣🤣
How much was d price of commodities under obj? Rice, beans, fish, petrol etc. How much are dey now?
Soo if u say pple had no hope under obj where u can comfortably buy 5 naira bread,rice was 40 naira per Derica, petrol was hovering around 26 naira later 40 naira. Tell me wat adjective u will use to qualify wat d common man Is going thru under APC.

Wat was our debt under Obj. Obj created d ECA headed by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. To save funds for rainy days. How much was saved?
Afta he left, wat happened to dem?

On foreign policy: Obj was a respected voice in d International Community. In Africa his voice alone reinstated d ousted president of Sao Tome nd principe. Nd some oda conflict he resolved around Africa, Nigeria was well respected.
Can u say d same now?
Up till nw, despite being out of power for years now: Obj is still d most respected Nigerian leader worldwide.


We can argue on nd on frm our perspective. Both statistics dnt lie. Bring out d stats let d world see nd compare.

Nd lyk I said its a travesty to support Tinubu as a leader nd be castigating Obj.
Tinubu is among d lowest of d lowest. Tell me his contributions to d development of d nation: Nigeria.

Johncarlo07:
I don't knw wat ur driving at gangan. Pls let me knw.

Frm d beginning, I nva told u Obj is a saint. Nd statistics nd developmental frm 1999 show he performed better Dan odas afta him.

Pls show d statistics let d world see.
U said he brought GSM to benefit himself, yet Dat same telecommunication is feeding millions of pple, employing thousands nd paying revenue in trillions of dollars to d Nigerian government currently.
U talked abt Mtel. Now! Tell me how many government companies nd corporations functions efficiently on deir own even wit billions pumped into dem?
Soo if he decides to transfer ownership to private individuals for proper management nd effectiveness: is Dat a sin?

Obj built 12 power stations during his time, how many did dose under him built?
Obj brought back d middle class. Do we still av it now?
U said despite creating anti corruption agencies, he nd his minions still loot. Even in saner climes, despite strong anti corruption law: pple still loot. It's now left for successive governments to create more laws to make dose agencies more functional. Afta all government is a continuum. Did dey do Dat? No!

U said d common man had no hope under OBJ🤣🤣🤣
How much was d price of commodities under obj? Rice, beans, fish, petrol etc. How much are dey now?
Soo if u say pple had no hope under obj where u can comfortably buy 5 naira bread,rice was 40 naira per Derica, petrol was hovering around 26 naira later 40 naira. Tell me wat adjective u will use to qualify wat d common man Is going thru under APC.

Wat was our debt under Obj. Obj created d ECA headed by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. To save funds for rainy days. How much was saved?
Afta he left, wat happened to dem?

On foreign policy: Obj was a respected voice in d International Community. In Africa his voice alone reinstated d ousted president of Sao Tome nd principe. Nd some oda conflict he resolved around Africa, Nigeria was well respected.
Can u say d same now?
Up till nw, despite being out of power for years now: Obj is still d most respected Nigerian leader worldwide.


We can argue on nd on frm our perspective. Both statistics dnt lie. Bring out d stats let d world see nd compare.

Nd lyk I said its a travesty to support Tinubu as a leader nd be castigating Obj.
Tinubu is among d lowest of d lowest. Tell me his contributions to d development of d nation: Nigeria.

I only read ur first statement that asks what I'm driving at, if you have no idea what I was driving at, why did u reply my initial statement?
Some u just like arguing for the sake of it, no point, no reason why u are arguing, just arguing.

JagabanBorgu:
I only read ur first statement that asks what I'm driving at, if you have no idea what I was driving at, why did u reply my initial statement?
Some u just like arguing for the sake of it, no point, no reason why u are arguing, just arguing.

Typical Tinubu supporter😂😂
Ur Ad Hominem will not work on me.
Pls, giv ansa to d question in d last paragraph of d last message I sent to you.

JagabanBorgu:
A patriot won't listen to OBJ when he's talking about good governance whether he's right or not, that's a basic rule for a patriot in Nigeria.
A patriot always have interest in who leads their country, in our case, whoever leads our country is the political winner, so if u don't have interest in who leads ur country, u are clearly not a patriot.
There's no voter aparthy going on anywhere, historically, governorship election don't received attention or same votes like presidential election, that's how it has always been even before Mahmood became INEC chairperson, a patriot should have known this.
Personally, if I have the right to vote in states like Oyo and Nasarawa, I will always vote PDP candidates ahead of APC candidates, in the last election, I voted for PDP, APC as well as SDP, I don't tag a party as bàd Iike u just did while pretending to be a patriot.
U see the difference between a patriot and a pàîñed Ioser now?

The only time u will see me talking about party is when someone brings a discussion about what happened under PDP or APC, and I am not a party supporter, I choose individuals that I prefer their style of governance no matter their party.

You say you vote personality than party and that's fine by me. But by what standards did you compare OBJ and Tinubu in terms of personality if you are a patriot?

One played leading roles in UN even before he became a civilian president and the other forfeited money to US government for drug related case with the CIA recently describing him as an asset of theirs. How patriotic was that to you! Except for monetary, party or clannish reasons no one will support BAT cos they know he's international and locally tainted.

Money can buy you power but can't buy you legitimacy and global respect.

I voted PDP, APC and Labour in the last elections of 2023. I don't give a damn about party but vote people that I feel are statesmen or lesser evils.

A patriot will support anyone that genuinely speaks out against corruption happening to his country no matter what the person has committed. We are talking about the now and future for a better Nigeria and not the past. It's bygone unless someone with balls come to probe and bring them to justice. But the future should be better so a patriot will support anyone who speaks for the prosperity of that future and not looters and extravagant spenders

Morizo:
You say you vote personality than party and that's fine by me. But by what standards did you compare OBJ and Tinubu in terms of personality if you are a patriot?

One played leading roles in UN even before he became a civilian president and the other forfeited money to US government for drug related case with the CIA recently describing him as an asset of theirs. How patriotic was that to you! Except for monetary, party or clannish reasons no one will support BAT cos they know he's international and locally tainted.

Money can buy you power but can't buy you legitimacy and global respect.

I voted PDP, APC and Labour in the last elections of 2023. I don't give a damn about party but vote people that I feel are statesmen or lesser evils.

A patriot will support anyone that genuinely speaks out against corruption happening to his country no matter what the person has committed. We are talking about the now and future for a better Nigeria and not the past. It's bygone unless someone with balls come to probe and bring them to justice. But the future should be better so a patriot will support anyone who speaks for the prosperity of that future and not looters and extravagant spenders

U are actually not a patriotic, u are an Obident hiding behind the patriot tag.
The post nor the comments are not making comparison, a patriot address issues as they should be addressed, not trying to sneak in comparison when the talk is not even comparison.

JagabanBorgu:
U are actually not a patriotic, u are an Obident hiding behind the patriot tag.
The post nor the comments are not making comparison, a patriot address issues as they should be addressed, not trying to sneak in comparison when the talk is not even comparison.

But instead comparison genuine or not? You are a BATist so this argument won't yield any fruit

Morizo:
But instead comparison genuine or not? You are a BATist so this argument won't yield any fruit

There was no argument in the first place because I stated OBJ can't give advice on how to run INEC when he practically stole election in broad daylight and u came with ur èmpty comparisons.

[quote author=JagabanBorgu post=132961603]There was no argument in the first place because I stated OBJ can't give advice on how to run INEC when he practically stole election in broad daylight and u came with ur èmpty comparisons.[/quotbro

Bringing BAT in the same conversation with OBJ on matters relating to governance and integrity shows your brain is empty and hopefully it's not same brain you cross the road with...
Playing politics is different from governance.

I don't have time to reply enemies of the country like you who drum support for criminals stealing our children's children futures just because of clannish or party reasons
I won't reply your ass again

[quote author=Morizo post=132979916][/quote]But u had time to mention me.