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Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by skywalker240(m): 5:44am On Nov 22, 2024
Bizmind95:
Zelensky is the worst fool on planet Earth...The comedian has effectively turned Ukraine into the world's largest weapons testing site and is busy killing his people while his wife is safely in Poland enjoying with their kids and rocking a $45,000 worth rain coathuh
And probably a Polak side d#ck grin
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by petesunday: 6:05am On Nov 22, 2024
Why are you afraid of letting Boko Haram stay beside your house?
psucc:
[q kiss kissuote author=shoodboi2 post=132972817]

There can't be truth in the world when those who call themselves the world's police are thieves.

How many arrest warrants did the ICC issue to Obama for bombing Libya or George Bush for lying that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and then using that as a pretext to bomb and invade Iraq?

None. The US caused wars and large scale destruction and got away with it. But for some reason, it is Russia that is protecting itself from having NATO right at its borders that is suddenly your concern.

But why is Russia afraid of having NATO at her borders?
This too should be a source of concern.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by maasoap(m):
NothingDoMe:
Which caution? Someone flies over your airspace for hours destroying key facilities including ones producing weapons and you call that caution?

Is this how you shift the goal post from expect Iran to respond soon to Israel is being cautious? Iran should have responded by now based on what her supporters have been chanting.
Lol. You have misinformed yourself, buddy grin grin.
Firstly, Israel fighter jets didn't fly over Iran airspace. I'm even shocked that you didn't know. All their strikes were launched from Iraq airspace.
Secondly, Israel didn't know about the deployment of S400 missile defence, they were caught off guard because those ones rendered most of their missiles useless.
And thirdly, there is hardly any significant evidence to prove that Israel actually destroyed anything significant in Iran. Even some analysts declared the retaliation a major failure. Why would Iran retaliate again?

Iran is a poor nation. You can't win a war with propaganda alone. I advise them to back off and focus on their economy.
Iran is not a poor country. She is under USA and international sanctions. And for that country to still achieve all those in terms of military sophistication, she's not poor. Israel on the other hand solely rely on USA to fund her war and economy. Soon enough, she will be exhausted in terms of human resources from fighting on multiple fronts. I mean, for how long can Israel sustain all those fights? As it is today, Israel can't face Iran on her own and I'm sure you know that too
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by NothingDoMe: 10:10am On Nov 22, 2024
maasoap:
Lol. You have misinformed yourself, buddy grin grin.
Firstly, Israel fighter jets didn't fly over Iran airspace. I'm even shocked that you didn't know. All their strikes were launched from Iraq airspace.
Secondly, Israel didn't know about the deployment of S400 missile defence, they were caught off guard because those ones rendered most of their useless.
And thirdly, there is hardly any significant evidence to prove that Israel actually destroyed anything significant in Iran. Even some analysts declared the retaliation a major failure. Why would Iran retaliate again?



Iran is not a poor country. She is under USA and international sanctions. And for that country to still achieve all those in terms of military sophistication, she's not poor. Israel on the other hand solely rely on USA to fund her war and economy. Soon enough, she will be exhausted in terms of human resources from fighting on multiple fronts. I mean, for how long can Israel sustain all those fights? As it is today, Israel can't face Iran on her own and I'm sure you know that too
Lol you earlier said Russia is supplying weapons to Iran, yet you want Israel to face Russia alone. Rest my brother, rest.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by cr7lomo: 11:08am On Nov 22, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lmao. Doesn't work like that. Yes, Russia has more but:

1. Can you fire all at once?
2. What is the payload in Kilotons or Megatons of the Warhead?
3. How many can or will be intercepted?
4. How many will be a fizzle or variation absolute dud? Meaning how many will fail to explode or basically not explode enough?
5. How many warheads are packed into one missle?

Now given the variables above I'd say that, if Israel's 90 nukes have a payload or yield in megatons then it may be possible to wipe out Russia if not intercepted or properly spread out.

In summary, Putin is just making noise about the nuking any NATO ally. He knows that will also be his end and the end of Russia.
Russia will take nukes...their citizens are not spoilt babies like western Europe or America... America is presently world power...a nuke war will automatically make them loose the top spot ... America and its western alleys have more to loose than Russia
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by NothingDoMe: 11:16am On Nov 22, 2024
cr7lomo:
Russia will take nukes...their citizens are not spoilt babies like western Europe or America... America is presently world power...a nuke war will automatically make them loose the top spot ... America and its western alleys have more to loose than Russia
I never knew there are hardened people that can resist explosion and absorb radiation. 😆😆😆😆😆😆.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by cr7lomo: 11:39am On Nov 22, 2024
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NothingDoMe:
I never knew there are hardened people that can resist explosion and absorb radiation. 😆😆😆😆😆😆.
It's obvious u don't understand the context ... do u see their citizens protesting against their government?? If one bomb drops in California, Americans will fight their government for risking their lives for a war that they have no benefits
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by maasoap(m): 12:54pm On Nov 22, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lol you earlier said Russia is supplying weapons to Iran, yet you want Israel to face Russia alone. Rest my brother, rest.
I don't know how to educate you further, you are stuck.
USA is supplying Israel most of the weapons being used but still at that, Israel can't face Iran alone, Israel wants physical involvement of USA.
On the other hand, Russia is supplying air defence missiles and fighter jets to Iran partially but Russia won't join the fight against Israel if and when it starts. Comprehended?
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by smallsmall: 11:32pm On Nov 22, 2024
iamdocToyemi:
Is Germany and UK still a super power? Lol, they are all old glories. They can't even decide their own fate without the US.
They are all "Have-Been" Empires. grin grin grin

UK built two battle Carrier Ships, both of them are not Sea-worthy, one of them has to be towed to harbour when it tried to sail and the other one has never left Port. Is it that kind of "Super-Power" that wants to engage in War?
UK is broke and the little it has, it is sending it to Ukraine to fight a War it can never win, while its Citizens are living from Hand-to-Mouth..... That is so Cool. grin

Germany cannot even muster 5,000 Soldiers, they are scrambling all over the place and wont be War-ready till 2030.
Ordinary Poland will run-over Germany in One Month. Inflation, High Energy-Cost as a result of the Nord Stream Sabotage and Recession has reduced Germany to a Paper Tiger.

France knows it is not even in the reckoning but Macron wants to inject himself into the picture, by hook or crook, knowing that he just lost an Election and only hung unto Power by forming a Coalition with the Parties they've always detested. More of an illegitimate Leader.

All of them are Afraid and Jealous of Russia at the same time but they keep hiding under the Umbrella of the US.
Trump is going to put a break on all their "Freeloading", especially that of Zelensky whom he described as the World most famous Con Artist (Salesman). grin

I think and agree with those who say, just like Zelensky refusing to conduct an Election after his term expired in February, 2024, Biden/Democrats might be deliberately escalating this War with Russia, to trick Russia into doing something very alarming (like using a Nuclear Weapon) and then they would declare "a state of War" and Martial law in the US........ then use that as an excuse to say: We cant have a Transition of Power, in a State of Martial law, and then Hang onto Power!
That would load a civil War, very quickly.

I guess that is why Putin informed US through the normal ICBM channels, of what it is about to do and that the Missile it will use, though it can carry Nuclear Warheads, it is not armed with such Warheads.
Despite advance warning, they couldn't eve defend against the Missile! grin

Let the World just Thank God that we have an extremely intelligent, Cool-headed leader like Putin in Russia (if it was "Mad' Medvedev! ), the World would gave been in a Nuclear WW3 by now.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by smallsmall: 11:39pm On Nov 22, 2024
NothingDoMe:
I never knew there are hardened people that can resist explosion and absorb radiation. 😆😆😆😆😆😆.
You're taking his Statement literally!
Look at it this way: During Covid 19, Nigerians/Africans were expected to die like flies, according to Western Predictions.
But we are like the Russians, we eat Covid-Virus for breakfast! grin grin
It is the Westerners that were dyeing like flies because we Africans are more "hardened" than them.
Russians will easily survive any harsh environment, much more than Americans because they are not as pampered and used to the sterile, aseptic life of Americans.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by smallsmall: 11:56pm On Nov 22, 2024
maasoap:
Lol. You have misinformed yourself, buddy grin grin.
Firstly, Israel fighter jets didn't fly over Iran airspace. I'm even shocked that you didn't know. All their strikes were launched from Iraq airspace.
Secondly, Israel didn't know about the deployment of S400 missile defence, they were caught off guard because those ones rendered most of their useless.
And thirdly, there is hardly any significant evidence to prove that Israel actually destroyed anything significant in Iran. Even some analysts declared the retaliation a major failure. Why would Iran retaliate again?



Iran is not a poor country. She is under USA and international sanctions. And for that country to still achieve all those in terms of military sophistication, she's not poor. Israel on the other hand solely rely on USA to fund her war and economy. Soon enough, she will be exhausted in terms of human resources from fighting on multiple fronts. I mean, for how long can Israel sustain all those fights? As it is today, Israel can't face Iran on her own and I'm sure you know that too
Israel actually fired/discharged its Missile haphazardly, when their Jets noticed that Iran Air Defense System has locked unto them.
As you pointed out, they were taken unawares, not knowing Iran has deployed the advanced Russian S-400.

As of this Afternoon, Iran has decided that it will deploy more advanced Centrifuges and go on with its Nuclear (weapons) Program.
I was surprised they said this out publicly (after that useless, IIEA "Grossi" started saying the nonsense that was handed over to him by NATO) because it could expose the Program attack from Israel and America.

But that, also tells me that their Nuclear program has reached a very advanced stage or that he already has the Nuclear weapon and is just using this opportunity to "let them know", so they can behave..
I've always thought that there will be no Palestinian State, until Iran has the Weapon.
That is the only thing that can put War Criminals and Genocidist like Netanyahu in check. undecided
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Jane74(f): 5:13am On Nov 23, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lmao. Doesn't work like that. Yes, Russia has more but:

1. Can you fire all at once?
Of course Russia can fire all at once - how do you even imagine the situation?
Do you think that in Russia nuclear weapons stand in a long line before being launched from a single site? grin
there are silo-based ICBMs, there are ICBMs that are launched from river boats, there are ICBMs that look like an ordinary railway car before launch, there are ICBMs that are launched from trucks... And there are submarines...in the Arctic, under the ice

Do you really think the Russians can't launch it all at once? why can't they do this - are there any reasonable ideas?

The Russians, of course, can do this, but the most important question is - why? For what? for what purpose?
to convince you of something? but you won't have time to realize anything, because if the Russians start a nuclear war, the planet will be torn to pieces before you know that a nuclear war has begun
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Jane74(f): 6:33am On Nov 23, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lmao. Doesn't work like that. Yes, Russia has more but:

2. What is the payload in Kilotons or Megatons of the Warhead?
Well, usually such data is secret, but sometimes data is leaked, for example, American experts believe that one Sarmat missile can carry from 10 to 15 warheads, depending on their power; in the case of 10 warheads, their power is estimated at 750 Kt each. maximum throw weight - estimated at 10 tons


and we can make a lower bound estimate - well, let's do the math.

Russia recently tested Oreshnik. This is a medium-range hypersonic missile (be sure to watch the video)
And keep in mind that the warheads contained no explosives at all. We can say that Russia threw stones at the Rheinmetall-Ukraine company.

The arrival speed of the warhead is 4-5 km/s. Let's take 4.
Let the warhead weigh 200 kg. Kinetic energy is equal to mv^2/2, that is, 200 * 4000 * 4000 / 2 = 1,600,000,000 joules. 1.6 gigajoules, in short.

200 kg of TNT explode with an energy of 200 * 4100,000 = 820,000,000 joules. That is, 200 kg of pure TNT will explode 2 times weaker than a "stone" of the same mass arriving at a speed of 4 km/s. In total, 36 such “stones” arrived in Rheinmetall-Ukraine...interesting, right? It turns out that it is not always necessary to stuff even ordinary explosives into the warhead of a missile.. You can just throw stones..
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Jane74(f): 6:59am On Nov 23, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lmao. Doesn't work like that. Yes, Russia has more but:

3. How many can or will be intercepted?
No way
For example, theoretically, ICBMs can be intercepted - but in practice, to destroy one Sarmat, you will need a couple of hundred interceptor missiles. And NATO air defense cannot intercept hypersonic missiles at all.
and the launch of ICBMs from submarines in the Arctic is almost impossible to even detect
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Jane74(f): 7:27am On Nov 23, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Lmao. Doesn't work like that. Yes, Russia has more but:

4. How many will be a fizzle or variation absolute dud? Meaning how many will fail to explode or basically not explode enough?
Do you want to find out through personal experience? really?

5. How many warheads are packed into one missle?
depends on model
I wrote about Sarmatian above as an example - from 10 to 15 pieces, in Oreshnik - 36 "stones"

Now given the variables above I'd say that, if Israel's 90 nukes have a payload or yield in megatons then it may be possible to wipe out Russia if not intercepted or properly spread out.
Israel? where is it? What is this?
When was the last time you looked at a world map?

To completely glaze Israel within 15 minutes, four salvos from river boats from the Volga are enough. And even ICBMs will not be needed. This is if nuclear weapons are used, and not thermonuclear ones. Two thermonuclear salvoes will be needed

and again. Look at the map. imagine having 90 warheads - not missiles, just warheads.

so? How will you distribute these 90 pieces so as to DESTROY Russia?
Aren't you funny yourself?

but if there remains at least one boat on the river or a ship at sea, at least one carriage at some stop in the taiga, at least one truck on a country road, at least one submarine in the Arctic - in place of Israel there will be a glass surface.

In summary, Putin is just making noise about the nuking any NATO ally. He knows that will also be his end and the end of Russia.
In summary, you simply do not listen to Putin - you listen and hear only yourself
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by NothingDoMe: 2:08pm On Nov 23, 2024
Jane74:
Do you want to find out through personal experience? really?


depends on model
I wrote about Sarmatian above as an example - from 10 to 15 pieces, in Oreshnik - 36 "stones"



Israel? where is it? What is this?
When was the last time you looked at a world map?

To completely glaze Israel within 15 minutes, four salvos from river boats from the Volga are enough. And even ICBMs will not be needed. This is if nuclear weapons are used, and not thermonuclear ones. Two thermonuclear salvoes will be needed

and again. Look at the map. imagine having 90 warheads - not missiles, just warheads.

so? How will you distribute these 90 pieces so as to DESTROY Russia?
Aren't you funny yourself?

but if there remains at least one boat on the river or a ship at sea, at least one carriage at some stop in the taiga, at least one truck on a country road, at least one submarine in the Arctic - in place of Israel there will be a glass surface.



In summary, you simply do not listen to Putin - you listen and hear only yourself
It was estimated decades ago that it would take 30minutes for a warhead to get to Russia from America. How long do you think it would take for Israel's missile to reach Russia? The Russians are not supporting Iran just for American beef sake.

Yes you are right that Russia has nuclear capable submarines but cleverly left out that most advanced nations have nuclear capable submarines in the water that can shorten strike time.

Russia CANNOT intercept missiles from all allied nations and they know this! i don't want a war but i grow weary of of the one-sided propaganda.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by iamdocToyemi(m): 5:07am On Dec 12, 2024
smallsmall:
They are all "Have-Been" Empires. grin grin grin

UK built two battle Carrier Ships, both of them are not Sea-worthy, one of them has to be towed to harbour when it tried to sail and the other one has never left Port. Is it that kind of "Super-Power" that wants to engage in War?
UK is broke and the little it has, it is sending it to Ukraine to fight a War it can never win, while its Citizens are living from Hand-to-Mouth..... That is so Cool. grin

Germany cannot even muster 5,000 Soldiers, they are scrambling all over the place and wont be War-ready till 2030.
Ordinary Poland will run-over Germany in One Month. Inflation, High Energy-Cost as a result of the Nord Stream Sabotage and Recession has reduced Germany to a Paper Tiger.

France knows it is not even in the reckoning but Macron wants to inject himself into the picture, by hook or crook, knowing that he just lost an Election and only hung unto Power by forming a Coalition with the Parties they've always detested. More of an illegitimate Leader.

All of them are Afraid and Jealous of Russia at the same time but they keep hiding under the Umbrella of the US.
Trump is going to put a break on all their "Freeloading", especially that of Zelensky whom he described as the World most famous Con Artist (Salesman). grin

I think and agree with those who say, just like Zelensky refusing to conduct an Election after his term expired in February, 2024, Biden/Democrats might be deliberately escalating this War with Russia, to trick Russia into doing something very alarming (like using a Nuclear Weapon) and then they would declare "a state of War" and Martial law in the US........ then use that as an excuse to say: We cant have a Transition of Power, in a State of Martial law, and then Hang onto Power!
That would load a civil War, very quickly.

I guess that is why Putin informed US through the normal ICBM channels, of what it is about to do and that the Missile it will use, though it can carry Nuclear Warheads, it is not armed with such Warheads.
Despite advance warning, they couldn't eve defend against the Missile! grin

Let the World just Thank God that we have an extremely intelligent, Cool-headed leader like Putin in Russia (if it was "Mad' Medvedev! ), the World would gave been in a Nuclear WW3 by now.
You are right, if it was Medvedev. It would've been a disaster, he will dropped Giga tons of bombs and flatten Kiev.

As for the Oreshnik, mini ICBM, she is actually not intercept able by any modern air defense. Hypersonic with motor carrying several warheads. It is just a pure disaster, I hope the conflict will end soon.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Meerahbel: 10:32am On Dec 19, 2024
mercy87:
Abeg this one wey Naija Don run join BRICS. if World War 3 start now, Na Russia we go support?
Do you have an email address.
Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Nobody: 11:53pm On Dec 23, 2024
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Re: Russia Fires Intercontinental Ballistic Missile In Attack On Ukraine, Kyiv Says by Meerahbel: 12:56pm On Dec 24, 2024
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