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Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by ElevationD: 9:29am On Nov 23, 2024
asala1:
Yes, I do know but we didn't expect this from a WORLD POWER and all the help from her allies. Not to talk of the billions of weapons and equipment they left behind.

According to WP "When U.S. forces withdrew from Afghanistan in 2021, approximately $7.2 billion worth of military equipment was left behind. This included aircraft, vehicles, weapons, ammunition, night-vision devices, biometric systems, and communication gear. The Taliban reportedly seized significant quantities, such as 300,000 light arms, 26,000 heavy weapons, and about 61,000 vehicles. Some of this equipment has also made its way into regional black markets, exacerbating security issues in neighboring countries​" https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense/2714604/us-left-behind-more-than-7-billion-of-military-equipment-in-taliban-run-afghanistan/
Some of the same reasons advanced by the old Soviet Union under Mikhail Gorbachev were what caused the Americans to withdraw. For the Soviets, they found out that the war was not winnable and they preferred to cut their costs.

The Americans achieved the destruction of Al Qaeda and its then leader, Osama Bin Laden. Need I to inform you that the plan to withdraw the close to 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan was put in place by Donald Trump? He signed the 2020 USA - Taliban deal that put restrictions on the fighting by both parties. That of course was the longest fighting in American history as it lasted for 20 years.

Now you may keep wondering why the USA could not defeat a “common” Taliban. In the same vein, you must wonder why Russia is taking 3 years now to fight or overrun a nuclear less Ukraine. The truth remains that possession of nuclear arms is termed “deterrence”. The USA would wipe Afghanistan off the surface of the earth one day. But could they have done that? No. There were very vital considerations, chief among them was the humanitarian crisis that it would cause. They would risk the entry of other nuclear powered nations like Russia and China.

As already stated, they wanted to eliminate Al Qaeda and other terrorists groups in that area. They achieved that objective. They are signatories to the nuclear non proliferation treaty. Employing nuclear weapons would have severely damaged the US reputation as a global leader and they would be violating international law, just like Netanyahu has been accused. For this same reason, in the face of opposition from NATO in Eastern Europe, Russia WILL NOT use nuclear weapons against Israel or NATO either.

The Americans have largely been criticized for leaving behind, such huge amounts of weapons. However when you look at it logistically, you’d find that it was not that easy, especially with the time constraints of vacating Afghanistan. What about the cost of putting them together from their different locations? Again the Americans expected the Afghan armed forces to take charge of the weapons, but sadly they capitulated to Taliban. However some of the weapons have allowed the Americans to have a limited presence in the region.

The Americans destroyed or disabled some of the equipment that they left behind, including aircraft. During the withdrawal, US forces destroyed or disabled 73 aircraft, including A-29s and Black Hawks, to prevent them from being used by the Taliban. We saw Taliban fighters posing on them. But have they put any to use? NO. They cannot.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg:
Frankiss44:
Yes oh..so according to you to the US army I'd one of the weakest in the world.. Even Nigeria army is stronger.. Yet Russia that is fighting its neighbour for 1000 days now getting mercenaries from all over the world is the strongest... Shebi Putin said once the west get involves and weapons from the west are used in Russia, he is going to go nuclear or attack them.. They are waiting for the noise maker
It's been 3 years since he warned NATO not to step foot in Ukraine.

Why did NATO comply? I thought they're more powerful? Lol

Let them try it and see hell on earth. They threatened and warned Russia not to invade Ukraine yet he called their bluff and went in.

Calling him Noisemaker when he has the power to rain down fire hotter than the sun on the entire world is foolish and an ignorant statement.

When it happens now you'll call him evil but here you are now calling him a coward for not destroying the world and you together with it
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by ElevationD: 9:31am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
And you think Russia cannot install Satan 2 missiles in Cuba or Nicaragua? Lol.
They will not and they cannot.
Do you want to discuss that?
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg: 9:33am On Nov 23, 2024
ElevationD:
They will not and they cannot.
Do you want to discuss that?
They will and they probably have.

Those Russian nuclear ships and submarines they keep sending to Cuba. What do you think they're for?

They're setting the stage. If the Ukraine plan fails, Cuba & Nicaragua are plan B.

And the whole world will even cheer them for that.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by NwaliE01: 9:37am On Nov 23, 2024
Goodmarlian:
Damn! that was scary the world has never seen such an explosion even though it was nt nuclear explosion,that missile if loaded with nukes can end a country the size of Britian in seconds you need the see the speed and accuracy I don't think the idea of such a technology comes from just mere human brain Russia is definitely interacting with extraterrestrials secretly Ukraine and the west should thread carefully Russia is deadly.
You never seen anything yet..
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by ElevationD: 9:42am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
They will and they probably have.

Those Russian nuclear ships and submarines they keep sending to Cuba. What do you think they're for?

They're setting the stage. If the Ukraine plan fails, Cuba & Nicaragua are plan B.

And the whole world will even cheer them for that.
Can you explain precisely how that can be achieved, looking into history?
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by bdon123(m): 9:43am On Nov 23, 2024
Goodmarlian:
Damn! that was scary the world has never seen such an explosion even though it was nt nuclear explosion,that missile if loaded with nukes can end a country the size of Britian in seconds you need the see the speed and accuracy I don't think the idea of such a technology comes from just mere human brain Russia is definitely interacting with extraterrestrials secretly Ukraine and the west should thread carefully Russia is deadly.
D problem is it wont get to britain before it is destroyed.Also be aware britain has Carriers around d world that will release nuclear war heads to Russia
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by bdon123(m): 9:46am On Nov 23, 2024
TossTos:
Indeed noise , one thing I believe is America is aware of all of their weapons.
No weapon that russia has that america is not aware of or even simulated counter measures or defence
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg: 9:58am On Nov 23, 2024
ElevationD:
Can you explain precisely how that can be achieved, looking into history?
Cuba retained all the former Soviet military installations and weapon storage facilities. Including the nuclear missile silos.

All they have to do is renovate it and it's good to go.

China is already building military bases in Cuba.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by brain54(m): 10:23am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
Cuba retained all the former Soviet military installations and weapon storage facilities. Including the nuclear missile silos.

All they have to do is renovate it and it's good to go.

China is already building military bases in Cuba.
China has a listening station...

For gathering intelligence in Cuba. But no military base!
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg: 10:24am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
China has a listening station...

For gathering intelligence in Cuba. But no military base!
If you believe that, then sure.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by brain54(m): 10:27am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
If you believe that, then sure.
If you have your facts to proof otherwise then go ahead...

Don't say if I believe that in an argument.

Military bases are visible structures!
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by lionphil(m): 10:30am On Nov 23, 2024
ElevationD:
Some of you should use a bit of common sense. You support that NATO is the issue. Putin does not want NATO around his borders.

Have you not wondered that if he conquers Ukraine, he immediately comes face to face with NATO through Poland? Ukraine offers the distance between the two presently.

By the way, what are the hypersonic, ICBMs supposed to achieve? Who’s he intimidating? What he thinks that Russia has is possessed by the countries that will surround him after the war. Now Russia would be faster and easier to reach with the new nuclear station installed by the USA.

Some of you think that what’s presently happening in Eastern Europe is akin to a Chelsea - Arsenal match. Sadly, you do not realize that Russia armlocks itself daily.
Why don't you go back to the historic agreement that was made? Why is US so keen on having a partial control of the military and weaponry of all the countries around Russia? Why would you try to intimidate a world power? This war is a proxy war. If I was Putin I wouldn't be this patient. After all, sanctions are already on ground. I would've used this missile a long time ago directly on Kiev. Let people shout and cry, they will get used to it. Next time no one will call my bluff. You want to surround my country will weapons and expect me to keep watching till you lay a stupid allegation against me just like they did to Gaddafi before eliminating him.

I would Nuke everywhere before that shit happens. It's only FOO.LS that don't know that the US is the aggressor.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by brain54(m): 10:48am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
If you believe that, then sure.
A Chinese military base in Cuba...

And all hell hasn't broke loose yet?

That's like a declaration of war Bro!
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg: 10:50am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
A Chinese military base in Cuba...

And all hell hasn't broke loose yet?

That's like a declaration of war Bro!
Lmaoo! You overrate the US too much

They just complained and complained, nothing they can do.

China already own lots of lands near very sensitive millitary sites in the US.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by brain54(m): 10:59am On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
Lmaoo! You overrate the US too much

They just complained and complained, nothing they can do.

China already own lots of lands near very sensitive millitary sites in the US.
Laughs on you Bro...

You are just capping to win your argument.

You can never proof what you are saying.

If China tries building a base in Cuba the US would have been loud about it. They would not grumble about it. They will do anything to stop it.

I hope you realize the causes of the cold War?

It's not about overating the US. It is just what it is!
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by splendournoni(m): 11:14am On Nov 23, 2024
[b][/b]America is world power not by displaying weapons...

World power no be for mouth...
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by Watcharena: 11:21am On Nov 23, 2024
bdon123:
No weapon that russia has that america is not aware of or even simulated counter measures or defence
lol so what happened the house couldn't name the weapon that was used yesterday
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by Jovi10: 11:30am On Nov 23, 2024
marv1:
With all these noise Russia is making, certainly all these can no go on forever. Where is Hitler today?? You cannot continue to intimidate, harrrass, destroy a sovereign nation and you want them to be looking at you.
Hitler was killed by the red army Russians😁😁😁. Ukraine don buy big market una never still sabi wetin dey sup.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by bdon123(m): 11:39am On Nov 23, 2024
Watcharena:
lol so what happened the house couldn't name the weapon that was used yesterday
U dey forget say US have plans against any war situation.Russia cannot develop a weapon that deadly secretly n us wont know abt it or hav counter plan in motion
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by decatalyst(m): 12:14pm On Nov 23, 2024
TossTos:
Indeed noise , one thing I believe is America is aware of all of their weapons.
This comment funny gidi gan. 🤣🤣

Una don dey brainwashed by the American media and propaganda that nah them be the all knowing country and all powerful country. 🤣

Na wa O🤣
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by ElevationD: 12:31pm On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
Cuba retained all the former Soviet military installations and weapon storage facilities. Including the nuclear missile silos.

All they have to do is renovate it and it's good to go.

China is already building military bases in Cuba.
First of all China is NOT building military bases in Cuba. The Chinese are only expanding their electronic espionage equipments in Cuba. That can only serve to expand their ability to spy on the Americans.

Next, Cuba cannot serve as a military base for the Russians and the reasons are clear. There are no installations and storage facilities to renovate.

Russia is currently unable to install nuclear weapons in Cuba due to a combination of historical, diplomatic, and strategic factors:

Cuba is a signatory to the Nuclear non proliferation treaty, that prohibits them from permitting nuclear weapons in their country.

The Cuban Missile Crisis 1962 that brought the old Soviet Union close to a nuclear war. The well documented 13 days standoff between the two nations, with the Soviet Union attempting to site nuclear missiles in Cuba. The Soviet Union's attempted to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba led to a 13-day standoff with the United States. The threat by the USA to immediately invade Cuba led the Soviets to withdraw. Fidel Castro made the country a communist country and the relationship between the Cubans and Soviets blossomed.

The Americans have a very significant military presence in the area making it impossible for such a move by the Russians. There is the Guantanamo naval base in Cuba.

Such a move would be resisted by the international community, as they all know the depth of crisis arising from such a move.

A secret 1962 agreement called the The Kennedy-Khrushchev Agreement between the then President J. F Kennedy and the then President N Khrushchev. The agreement aimed to resolve the Cuban Missile Crisis, which brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. The terms included the Soviets dismantling and withdrawing their weapons. Also the USA secretly agreed to remove their Jupiter missiles in Turkey, that were close to the Soviets.

One issue with Ukraine:

When the old Soviet Union was dissolved, the Americans and Russians had agreements to protect Ukraine, as the Ukrainians were required to dismantle their nuclear armament, which as at the time was the third largest in the world. The same Russians led by Putin have turned around to claim Ukraine as part of their territory. We must ask this question: if Ukraine retained their nuclear capability, would Russian have invaded them in this manner? Now the Ukrainians plan to return their nuclear capability in six months.

What we witness playing out presently in Europe is international politics and power.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by ElevationD: 12:34pm On Nov 23, 2024
lionphil:
Why don't you go back to the historic agreement that was made? Why is US so keen on having a partial control of the military and weaponry of all the countries around Russia? Why would you try to intimidate a world power? This war is a proxy war. If I was Putin I wouldn't be this patient. After all, sanctions are already on ground. I would've used this missile a long time ago directly on Kiev. Let people shout and cry, they will get used to it. Next time no one will call my bluff. You want to surround my country will weapons and expect me to keep watching till you lay a stupid allegation against me just like they did to Gaddafi before eliminating him.

I would Nuke everywhere before that shit happens. It's only FOO.LS that don't know that the US is the aggressor.
“Why is US so keen on having a partial control of the military and weaponry of all the countries around Russia”?

Simple answer:

International politics and power!
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by johnog4sure: 12:34pm On Nov 23, 2024
My favorite thread, take this to FP
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by johnog4sure: 12:37pm On Nov 23, 2024
bdon123:
U dey forget say US have plans against any war situation.Russia cannot develop a weapon that deadly secretly n us wont know abt it or hav counter plan in motion
Totally agree with this
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by johnog4sure: 12:39pm On Nov 23, 2024
AntiZikist:
There was no war head on those missiles.

It was purely kinetic impact due to the high terminal velocity of the missiles travelling through the air and impacting on the surface.

The bright glow around the missile is a plasma shield created by the missile on the surrounding air it was travelling through at Mach 12 (11 times the speed of sound or 9,600km/hr).

The missiles were not ICBMs as first thought but hypersonic MIRV rocket and engine propelled missiles that had multiple travel phases during its flight path within the lower atmosphere. ICBMs reach a peak flight aporgee of about 1,200km above the earth surface . This MIRV missiles travelled at much lower orbits and at the same speed as ICBMs.

This is causing real fear in the west because NATO relies on an array of satellite constellations to detect ICBMs during their high altitude climb and glide phase. But this missile travels within the earth's atmosphere making satellite detection impossible. Radar are ineffective in detecting it as well because the plasma shield created by the missile with the atmosphere it travels through, bounces radar pulses away from it making the missile invisible to radar detection.

The Americans invested heavily on air platforms and their naval fleet but Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union concentrated on missile technology so much so that Russia has a seperate branch of the military dedicated solely for missile launchers and deterrence.


Now imagine the Russians strapped on a conventional war head of 500kg explosives on each of those multiple missiles .

The kinetic impact of the missile will make a 500kg explosive war head ten times more powerful.

Now strap on a tactical nuke and you will get to see why the Americans are all jittery.

This is just a tip. We haven't even considered Russian Samart missiles aka SATAN ICBMs that carry up to 15 individual nuclear missiles that detach in re-entry that are all equivalent in blast yields to the Tsar bomber - think 200kilo-Tonnes.

Then there's the Russian Poseidon UAV submersible that can dive deeper and remain underwater indefinitely which can be remotely programmed to move towards any enemy coastline and detonate forming a tsunami of radioactive cobalt water hitting any coastal city. One Russian UAV nuke sub can take out the entire British isles and have it buried under 300ft of radiated sea water.
My own worry is hope the nukes we have in the world today are not Hydrogen bombs, otherwise we are going to have annihilation of both Europeans and Americans, maybe is good for Africans
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by fortunez1(m): 1:15pm On Nov 23, 2024
asala1:
Yet, they ran away from Afghanistan leaving billions worth of weapons from some sandal wearing jihadist.

Same thing happened in Vietnam, they ran away leaving the poor south Vietnamese in the hands of the advancing communist.
yet they are still the world power.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by Frankiss44(m): 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
It's been 3 years since he warned NATO not to step foot in Ukraine.

Why did NATO comply? I thought they're more powerful? Lol

Let them try it and see hell on earth. They threatened and warned Russia not to invade Ukraine yet he called their bluff and went in.

Calling him Noisemaker when he has the power to rain down fire hotter than the sun on the entire world is foolish and an ignorant statement.

When it happens now you'll call him evil but here you are now calling him a coward for not destroying the world and you together with it
Destroy which world.. You guys are really funny on this app I swear. So other countries fold hands and watch him destroy the world right? Like I said UK and US weapons are now flying in Russia.. Let's see what he can do about that
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by WrriterNg: 2:13pm On Nov 23, 2024
Frankiss44:
Destroy which world.. You guys are really funny on this app I swear. So other countries fold hands and watch him destroy the world right? Like I said UK and US weapons are now flying in Russia.. Let's see what he can do about that
They are flying from US & UK abi?

Is there any weapon Ukraine has used that isn't from the US & UK?

Even Ukrainian drones have been hitting Russia since so it's not even a big deal.

The big deal is them obeying Putin's order not to step foot in Ukraine for 3 years now.

Other countries will not fold hands, they will join hands with Russia and put an end to the vampire west for once.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by NothingDoMe: 2:33pm On Nov 23, 2024
TossTos:
Indeed noise , one thing I believe is America is aware of all of their weapons.
Correct.
Re: What Russia Displayed Yesterday Was Pure Alien Technology by NothingDoMe: 2:35pm On Nov 23, 2024
WrriterNg:
Other countries will not fold hands, they will join hands with Russia and put an end to the vampire west for once. [/b]
One minute Russia alone can fight the whole west and the next minute Russia will have assistance from other countries.

Propaganda needs to be consistent to be believeable.
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