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mysticwarrior:
The Devil was created as a perfect being and a divine personality, when angels sin against God there is no forgiveness.

mysticwarrior:
The Devil was created as a perfect being and a divine personality, when angels sin against God there is no forgiveness.

xprojectlive:
➜These were the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.
➜What Satan did that warranted him being cast out of heaven is not far from offense. One day his offense will be forgiven and he'll be restored to his original position

xprojectlive:
Lol

And God expects you to forgive 77 times?

We must have been taught wrongly

xprojectlive:
➜Lol...And God expects you to forgive 77 times. We must have been taught wrongly

xprojectlive:
Like I said earlier, we've been taught wrongly by our fellow men according to their understanding to their benefits.

Just yesterday, I saw I calendar of an Anglican bishop where he's being addressed as Lord bishop.

Who made him Lord over his fellow men?

These are the ones that would tell us who God Almighty is.

Hmmm

As clearly stated in Isaiah 45:7 God created light and darkness, good and evil.

He's never surprised by evil.

You think God Almighty was shocked to know Adam and Eve took the forbidden fruit?


Or he couldn't have prevented them from doing that?

Lol

Or you think God Almighty didn't know when Satan conceived the evil idea within him and was surprised by an attempted coup like Gowon and Buhari?

Lol

He is in perfect control.

And has a time table for everything

Everything serves his ultimate purpose

If he asks you to forgive those who offended you, it means the he himself can forgive anyone who offended him even before he commits the offense.

He's the one who empowered pilate to condem him to death, even Judas to betray him.

You think Judas and pilate will never be forgiven by the Lord?

Lol

xprojectlive:
Lol
And God expects you to forgive 77 times?
We must have been taught wrongly

xprojectlive:
➜Like I said earlier, we've been taught wrongly by our fellow men according to their understanding to their benefits. Just yesterday, I saw I calendar of an Anglican bishop where he's being addressed as Lord bishop. Who made him Lord over his fellow men? These are the ones that would tell us who God Almighty is. Hmmm As clearly stated in Isaiah 45:7 God created light and darkness, good and evil. He's never surprised by evil. You think God Almighty was shocked to know Adam and Eve took the forbidden fruit?
Or he couldn't have prevented them from doing that? Lol Or you think God Almighty didn't know when Satan conceived the evil idea within him and was surprised by an attempted coup like Gowon and Buhari? Lol He is in perfect control. And has a time table for everything Everything serves his ultimate purpose If he asks you to forgive those who offended you, it means the he himself can forgive anyone who offended him even before he commits the offense. He's the one who empowered pilate to condem him to death, even Judas to betray him. You think Judas and pilate will never be forgiven by the Lord?Lol

MaxInDHouse:
Forgiveness is not for PERFECT BEINGS!

Most people don't get the logic, God asked you to always forgive a sinner because he is like you an imperfect being and in most cases you can't figure out all the details of what happened that's why God told you to forgive because you can only see less than 5% of the cases happening around you so if you're to judge based on what you can see think of how many cases you will judge wrongly!

Satan, Adam and Eve were perfect beings that is why they can't be redeemed unlike you and i who can't figure out so many things happening around us.

For your information a perfect being can see so sharply like the eagle, can grasp matters intelligently like computer, can remember any case to the deepest part so nothing escapes their memories unlike you and i that when asked questions regarding what happened five days ago we begin to think before response a perfect being will tell you everything that happened 500 years ago as if it's recorded in his or her brains.

So whatever they choose to do it's not out of mistakes it's what they will choose a million times because that is what they conclude after thorough inspection.

That's why there is no redemption for them!

Kobojunkie:
Did this God suggest that Pilate sinned? Did Pilate ask this God for forgiveness? Did Judas ask this God for forgiveness that you would choose to believe this God forgave him of his sins? I already inquired regarding satan earlier but you were not able to answer that, were you?

More importantly, did Jesus Christ of Israel state in his Gospel that by forgiving others 70*7 times, those individuals are absolved of their particular sins or crimes to begin with?

Yes, you have been taught wrong but that doesn't mean one bit that you are yourself now, after acknowledging this, thinking or reasoning correctly.

Kobojunkie:
Did this God suggest that Pilate sinned? Did Pilate ask this God for forgiveness? Did Judas ask this God for forgiveness that you would choose to believe this God forgave him of his sins? I already inquired regarding satan earlier but you were not able to answer that, were you?

More importantly, did Jesus Christ of Israel state in his Gospel that by forgiving others 70*7 times, those individuals are absolved of their particular sins or crimes to begin with?

Yes, you have been taught wrong but that doesn't mean one bit that you are yourself now, after acknowledging this, thinking or reasoning correctly.

xprojectlive:
✓ Forgiveness doesn't prevent the sinner from getting the reward of his sins
When you jump down from a 5 storey building and ask for forgiveness midway, it won't stop gravity from bringing you to the ground

Kobojunkie:
You are refusing to answer any of the questions because you know your very well you don't get it. You pointed to that said by Jesus Christ of Israel to His followers- He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel -- mentioned Satan(non human), Judas and even then Pilate(a dog aka a non Israelite, and I can't help but wonder if you realize how in error even your reasoning of the text remains.

xprojectlive:
Another point of view
Where in the world did you get the idea that Adam and Eve were perfect?
Perfection belongs only to God
They're not even all knowing

MaxInDHouse:
Perfection doesn't mean all knowing it simply means all the senses of your body will work perfectly no memory loss, no weakness, no sickness, your eyes, ears, organs all working at their best.
As for all knowing it's presumptuousness that's affecting some religionists because the Bible God never claim to be all knowing!

xprojectlive:
If they are not all knowing, you expect them not to be deceived?
Your new born baby maybe biologically perfect, but not perfect in other aspects.
A perfect being should be perfect in all aspects.
But we're talking about offense and forgiveness
When you realize that someone is not perfect in knowledge, then make room for offense and be ready to forgive

xprojectlive:
21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[g]

23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[h] was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.

26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[i] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”

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These were the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

What Satan did that warranted him being cast out of heaven is not far from offense.

One day his offense will be forgiven and he'll be restored to his original position

Kobojunkie:
You are refusing to answer any of the questions because you know your very well you don't get it. You pointed to that said by Jesus Christ of Israel to His followers- He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel -- mentioned Satan(non human), Judas and even then Pilate(a dog aka a non Israelite, and I can't help but wonder if you realize how in error even your reasoning of the text remains.

xprojectlive:
Another point of view

Where in the world did you get the idea that Adam and Eve were perfect?

Perfection belongs only to God

They're not even all knowing

Kingsempires:
what he meant was that Adam and eve were sinless when God created them it was unto the time Adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit that was the time their sin began

xprojectlive:
✓ Then what relationship do you as a Nigerian gentile have with Jesus if he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel?
Are you an Israelite?

RealityKings1:
The great spirit is

xprojectlive:
Okay