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Odingo1:
A Yoruba person can’t hear Egun , Awori or Ilaje language, these are distinct languages but Yorubas politically classified them as Yoruba sub group unlike Anioma-Ika-Ikwerre-Igbanke which every Igbo hear and understand their dialect of Igbo.

You are not getting it right. The Yoruba tribe is large with many dialect. We have the Egba dialect, the Ijebu dialect, the Ilaje dialect, etc but we have the general Yoruba for easy communication. If an Egba person speaks his dialect, an Ijebu person might not understand it fully.
Again, if the Yoruba say the Egun and the Aworis are part of the Yoruba sub groups, and both the Aworis and Egun agree to it. Then they are part of the Yoruba. So if the Igbos say the Ikweres are Igbo, it is left for the Ikweres to decide that whether they Igbo or not. We should not force other to what we believe in or to be part of us. If they agree fine, if they did not agree, it is also fine too. I don't get involve with the Ikweres and Igbos stuff, both tribes can resolve it amicably.

Odingo1:
I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

Thanks for the correction its just one community that borders Ebonyi state they largely speak igbo language due to trading activities and inter marriage and probably settlement of Igbo rice farmers in the area
They have their language which is endangered because of the huge influence and population of these trades

kasim155:
You are not getting it right. The Yoruba tribe is large with many dialect. We have the Egba dialect, the Ijebu dialect, the Ilaje dialect, etc but we have the general Yoruba for easy communication. If an Egba person speaks his dialect, an Ijebu person might not understand it fully.
Again, if the Yoruba say the Egun and the Aworis are part of the Yoruba sub groups, and both the Aworis and Egun agree to it. Then they are part of the Yoruba. So if the Igbos say the Ikweres are Igbo, it is left for the Ikweres to decide that whether they Igbo or not. We should not force other to what we believe in or to be part of us. If they agree fine, if they did not agree, it is also fine too. I don't get involve with the Ikweres and Igbos stuff, both tribes can resolve it amicably.

What you will understand is that Igbos are not forcing Ikwerre people to be Igbo, the problem is that the language and names Ikwerre people speak and bear is the same with the rest of Igbos. So it is very difficult for them to say they are not Igbo. If Ikwerre language is like Egun language in Lagos which no Yoruba person understand it when spoken unless a Yoruba learn it then it will be easy for Ikwerres and nobody will be talking about it. There are other languages in Rivers that Igbo people can’t understand or hear like Ijaw, Eleme, Abua, Gokana, Tai, okrike, kalabari, Baan, Khana etc, no Igbo person have said that these languages are Igbo.

Odingo1:
Ijaw people are indigenous to Lagos in Ajegunle area of Lagos, they first Yoruba people reach the waters of Lagos. Check your history.

Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

exposition:
Thanks for the correction its just one community that borders Ebonyi state they largely speak igbo language due to trading activities and inter marriage and probably settlement of Igbo rice farmers in the area
They have their language which is endangered because of the huge influence and population of these trades

Can you explain more of their original language before it became influenced, let it not be another some of Ikwerre tales by the moonlight that they came from Bini, yet no single Bini language in Ikwerre but 100% intelligible with Igbo language.

Soon they will add Lagos, ogun Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo to the list of their states.

Odingo1:
Ijaw people are indigenous to Lagos in Ajegunle area of Lagos, they first Yoruba people reach the waters of Lagos. Check your history.

Ijaw aren't indigenous to Lagos state. See the census conducted in 1891 in Lagos. Did you see one Ijaw in Lagos.

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

I will get back with evidence

forgiveness:
Ijaw aren't indigenous to Lagos state. See the census conducted in 1891 in Lagos. Did you see one Ijaw in Lagos.

Maybe the census counters could not reach the waters because Ijaw people normally live ontop of water. I will show you evidence.

We are all one people. We are blacks, we are the first human on earth. We all have connection to the kemet of the time immemorial. Why the hate, why the division. Let's embrace each other and work towards the restoration of the dignity of the black race. We have the brain, we have the resources if we wish we can regain our long lost glory. Long time ago, the Greeks travel from far away to Ancient kemet to study. Today they have learnt from Us and with determination have surpassed Us and we are still here swimming in the ocean of tribalism.

casualobserver:
Soon they will add Lagos, ogun Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo to the list of their states.

These research is a reality on ground not for a joke.

Villagesquare:
We are all one people. We are blacks, we are the first human on earth. We all have connection to the kemet of the time immemorial. Why the hate, why the division. Let's embrace each other and work towards the restoration of the dignity of the black race. We have the brain, we have the resources if we wish we can regain our long lost glory. Long time ago, the Greeks travel from far away to Ancient kemet to study. Today they have learnt from Us and with determination have surpassed Us and we are still here swimming in the ocean of tribalism.

Well said, but we still have to talk about tribes in Africa without using it for a fight or tribalism.

illicit:
U didn't add Lagos

🤭

Shut up and just cry and wail Igbo that your God created and destined you to do till you go die enter grave

Edo, Ijaw lay claims to Lagos, You no get problem with that one, na Igbo wey dey use famous Lagos is no man's land wey different people dey use including one time former Lagos State Governor

You will be on your dying bed still be crying Igbo na your destiny oo

Odingo1:
Maybe the census counters could not reach the waters because Ijaw people normally live ontop of water. I will show you evidence.

Did not reach water wey oyinbo take boat enter Lagos from UK?

Meaning Ijaw has no land but lived on water, right.

Omoslim26:
Shut up and just cry and wail Igbo that your God created and destined you to do till you go die enter grave

Edo, Ijaw lay claims to Lagos, You no get problem with that one, na Igbo wey dey use famous Lagos is no man's land wey different people dey use including one time former Lagos State Governor

You will be on your dying bed still be crying Igbo na your destiny oo

So u gonna kill me on my bed?

Pls stop the killings

illicit:
So u gonna kill me on my bed?

Pls stop the killings

Hahaha you know deep down that your life is plainly meaningless without crying Igbo aaaghhh You will definitely be in your dying bed and still be wailing and crying Igbo aaaghhh, you can't hide from your destiny

BigDick70inch:
Clown...
Can u say dat to ebonyi man.....y'all all have been treated poor all dis while......

Ronu wan kill himself on top igbo man matter. You beta face the premium ebin pawa jagaban is giving to his fellow ronus

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

forgiveness:
Did not reach water wey oyinbo take boat enter Lagos from UK?

Meaning Ijaw has no land but lived on water, right.

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Kiokio Communities in Lagos near Ikorodu, other Ijaw communities are in Ajegunle. Read carefully.

Odingo1:
These research is a reality on ground not for a joke.

Who says I am joking? It’s an inevitability. Everybody is a product of migration. You settle somewhere long enough and you become “from there”

Ibos did not originate from the place they call Ibo land today, ijebus are from Sudan, most Yorubas from are actually migrants from Ife, There are yoruba descendants in Warri and Bayelsa.

So what I stated is simply a matter of certainty. In a few generations Ibos will tell you about their roots and ancestors in yoruba land…..and they will be historically correct.

No joke, no tribal connotations just a certain effect of human migration that is inevitable.

casualobserver:
Who says I am joking? It’s an inevitability. Everybody is a product of migration. You settle somewhere long enough and you become “from there”

Ibos did not originate from the place they call Ibo land today, ijebus are from Sudan, most Yorubas from are actually migrants from Ife, There are yoruba descendants in Warri and Bayelsa.

So what I stated is simply a matter of certainty. In a few generations Ibos will tell you about their roots and ancestors in yoruba land…..and they will be historically correct.

No joke, no tribal connotations just a certain effect of human migration that is inevitable.

Migration have ended in the world with technology innovation except what Fulani is doing in Benue by killing entire villages and taking over their land.

Igbos can never become indigenous to Yoruba land except if Yorubas do like Northern cities were they gave Igbo people outskirts area and call it Sabo Ngari, with time Igbos built up the area and become dominant in the area but yet it doesn’t make them indigenous, incase of Yorubas, Igbos are scattered in Yoruba cities with no concentration to a particular area like in the core North.

Odingo1:
So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Kiokio Communities in Lagos near Ikorodu, other Ijaw communities are in Ajegunle. Read carefully.

Ijaw claiming land na today?

See evidence they are not indigenous to Lagos.

owobokiri:
Lagos belong to the Aworis and Eguns.
Igbos and Yorubas are not indigenous to Lagos.
Yeah!

so which region does Lagos belongs to?

owobokiri:
But the Ikwerres and Ogbas are not subgroups of the Igbos? You see your life?
Do you know that it is easier for an Igbo to hear and understand the dialects spoken by the ikas and Ikwerres, than it is for the Yorubas to understand whatever the Aworis and Eguns are speaking? Yet it's the Yorubas that argue that language similarities mean nothing in defining ethnicities!
Once again, you see your treacherous lives?

but ikwere n ogbas have denied been Igbos a million times, has d egun n aworis ever deny been yorubas?

So because them reject u

U want egun n aworis to reject yorubas too

Odingo1:
There is no indigenous Igbos in Lagos, Igbos don’t claim other peoples land. The indigenous tribes in Lagos include;
1. Egun
2. Awori
3. Yoruba
4. Ijaw
5. Ilaje

please which local government or area belongs to ijaw in Lagos?

forgiveness:
Ijaw claiming land na today?

See evidence they are not indigenous to Lagos.

You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.

There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.

The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.

Odingo1:
Ijaw people are indigenous to Lagos in Ajegunle area of Lagos, they first Yoruba people reach the waters of Lagos. Check your history.

u Igbos are another thing else

So since u Igbos are now put in your place in Lagos, u are now saying ijaw are Igbos

Ijaws in ajegunle

U are just a mad man with phone

Odingo1:
What you will understand is that Igbos are not forcing Ikwerre people to be Igbo, the problem is that the language and names Ikwerre people speak and bear is the same with the rest of Igbos. So it is very difficult for them to say they are not Igbo. If Ikwerre language is like Egun language in Lagos which no Yoruba person understand it when spoken unless a Yoruba learn it then it will be easy for Ikwerres and nobody will be talking about it. There are other languages in Rivers that Igbo people can’t understand or hear like Ijaw, Eleme, Abua, Gokana, Tai, okrike, kalabari, Baan, Khana etc, no Igbo person have said that these languages are Igbo.

guy u have a problem

Ikwere say they are not Igbos

Egun n aworis didn't reject yorubas but u Igbos want to start claiming they are not yorubas

Have the egun n aworis ever rejected yorubas?

Please answer that question

Factcheck0001:
u Igbos are another thing else

So since u Igbos are now put in your place in Lagos, u are now saying ijaw are Igbos

Ijaws in ajegunle

U are just a mad man with phone

Watch and learn so that you will not be falling your hand, there is many things you don’t know because history are not taught in Nigeria schools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Odingo1:
Watch and learn so that you will not be falling your hand, there is many things you don’t know because history are not taught in Nigeria schools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

so this man n a Facebook post is your main evidence?

Oga ikwere were d ones who said they weren't Igbos no b yorubas put am for their mouth

kasim155:
This is how some of u write false history about other people and their region. The Egun and the Aworis are sub groups of the Yoruba tribe, we also have the Ijebu as indigene of Lagos. So because Igbo are not indigenous to Lagos doesn't mean that Yoruba are not.

Am sure you wouldn't be this defensive when it's about Ikwerre in Rivers and Igbos in Delta State. You will forget there is something called sub groups.

Very easy to write articles that tear Igbo apart but whe. It gets to Lagos Indigenes you all get touchy

Factcheck0001:
guy u have a problem

Ikwere say they are not Igbos

Egun n aworis didn't reject yorubas but u Igbos want to start claiming they are not yorubas

Have the egun n aworis ever rejected yorubas?

Please answer that question

Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.

Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.