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Vl3ly:
they invaded Lebanon to achieve this goal through military force? True or false?

Does the goal achieved by military force or negotiation?


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Goals are not achieved by force Israel aways go for negotiation first before using force

The force is push for a negotiation, if the agreement fails then the military continue what they are doing.

Disbanding Hezbollah is the job of Lebanon which can be achieved because they are politically weakened

shoodboi2:
You people make too much noise. No one asked for unnecessary explanation.

The fellow shared the video to prove the US has a missile that travels at Mach 23, only for the missile to be just another ballistic missile that's slower than a fully loaded Dangote cement truck.

If you claim the missile can travel at Mach 23 at a specific period, then show us the video of the missile traveling at Mach 23 at that period.

We all saw the Russian missile travel at Mach 10 if not more. You see it pass through the cloud and before you can even think of blinking, it's already on the ground.

Meanwhile, our American Mach 23 missile here took the whole day to even leave the ground.

😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

Masterviolence:
Analysis simply means a detailed examination of the elements or structure of something.

By analysing, I used what I saw and the information available about hazel to construct that information above.

The Russians are well know for grossly over exaggerating it's weapons systems.


In the end what you wrote is simply "hypothetical"

Allthelight:
Time for propagandists to quickly told this to an Hezbollah victory

It is an Hezbollah victory!

Israel is Hezbollah's regular customer.
10/10 times, they'll lose.

The IDF is only set up for quick wars.
Positional, dynamic, drawn-out warfare that extends for months is their kryptonite.

They are scared of Iran for the same reason.
Sure they would successfully strike targets in Iran. Heck, they could even get some high-profile assassinations under their belt.
But the scale of destruction that'll be meted on them after a year-long war with Iran will drive them to capitulation.

-Lord

You are discussing weapons and foreign relations.
Everyday you keep hearing nuke this nuke that.
Yet you don't even have a soupçon of knowledge of the very weapons systems that are used to deliver such warheads 😅😅.


Never have I seen an massive assemblage of simpletons in one spot

Mille:
VLADIMIR PUTIN VERY DEAD

VLADIMIR PUTIN VERY DEAD

VLADIMIR PUTIN VERY DEAD

You mean Biden the Satan associate that died few years ago

Ghostagain:
Lebanon is a strange country.
I had a conversation with a Lebanese Christian Zionist who seems to worship Israel and is extremely violent.

Of course you know more about Hezbollah and Lebanon more than Lebanese living under Hezbollah in Lebanon. You're the smartest of all 😂😂😂

obedience4:
Get of my mention please, I don't expect "airheads" to comprehend. Go and research more about the speeds of ICBMs after its burnouts stage, not just the US minuteman. Any ICBM pick from Russia's "RS-28Sarmat" or China's "DF-41". Even Russia's shorter range "RS-26 Rubezh" has a speed of over mach 20 after its burnouts.

Bonus point@the bold.. Russia has publicly shown its ICBM lunches before, attached below is the link to the recent test as released by Russian authorities. Please is there any difference in the sequence/speed of the US and Russia launches during the first initial takeoff stage?? The ICBM achieves its maximum speed levels at it earth re-entry.

https://www.wsj.com/video/watch-russia-test-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile/3B86F530-C0F4-405D-AA55-3EE86E36D1D5

Comparing a Intermediate-range ballistic missile to an intercontinental ballistic missiles is comical.

Go and research about ICBM's and it's speeds at the point of it earth re-entry. Stop jumbing into discussions you know nothing about. Go probe about the subject matter,then just maybe I might indulge your opinions. Until then it will be best you keep your ingonrant self of my mentions. Comprende??

You are really funny to be replying that guy. A person suffering from Attention disorder. He will comment before properly understanding. It is a psychological problem. Better to let him roam like the mad dog he is.

ariesbull:
🎯Key European NATO bases within reach of Russia's Oreshnik hypersonic missile.😵☠️

You are dumb. All the rubbish pointed in red doesn't matter. The weapon is an intermediate range ballistic missile. It is just 3k to 5k miles. Anything beyond that, it cannot go.

Masterviolence:
If you have the guts, prove me wrong, infact highlight the sentence that is not correct in that analysis.
I'm waiting.

The first thing you should be challenging is the concept of "multipolarism" that I schooled you on. Why leave that one and engage in another.

ariesbull:
🎯Key European NATO bases within reach of Russia's Oreshnik hypersonic missile.😵☠️

You Putards are so funny. So you think only Russia has the monopoly of ICBM to deploy? Like no other nation in Europe or North America cannot return fire for fire for him?

It's unfortunate that Ukraine gave up all their nuclear weapons in 1991 after independence. Otherwise, we would talking different thing today.

lanre316:
You Putards are so funny. So you think only Russia has the monopoly of ICBM to deploy? Like no other nation in Europe or North America cannot return fire for fire for him?

It's unfortunate that Ukraine gave up all their nuclear weapons in 1991 after independence. Otherwise, we would talking different thing today.

Why do you guys always start conversation with insults especially you Lagos crowd...why call Putards? Where you people raised in abusive environment that everything is abused and insults...why can't you make your point nicely and decently without the insult...just like the other guy Gbadebo, you Lanre is also insulting

Why are you guys always like this ..insulting people that don't see things your way? Why ? Was it the way your parents raise you guys ?

Mille:
You're being trying to be clever by half. Everything they said they would do, they planned to do it militarily in three weeks. This was even at a point where Hezbollah was at its weakest ever in its History. They failed.

Israel has repeatedly stated its most important goal to be the dismantling of Hezbollah military and political structure in Lebanon. That's why they were hitting areas Hezbollah was not even in control of. They failed to generate the civil strife they have hoped for inside Lebanon. Hence why we see Netanyahu address the Lebanese people directly so many times like in the attached image. Go and check Israeli leaders posts and their frustration with non-Shia Lebanese citizens.

About returning the Northern residents, the goal was to do it militarily. They failed. Now if this is signed, both Northern Israel and Southern Lebanese people might return to their homes.

They failed to destroy the capabilities of Hezbollah as they said they would.

It turned out to be a needless war especially for Hezbollah who took losses for no reason if Gaza was not mentioned. I'm still waiting for confirmation from them tomorrow.

Quick question;

If there is a ceasefire agreement today between Hamas and Israel. The return of all hostages in return for end of hostilities in Gaza, would you say Israel also achieved its objectives in Gaza?

Where did you see that Israel planned to destroy Hezbollah in three weeks?



Let's say because the Russian war against Ukraine took longer than the Russians expected does it mean they did not achieve their objectives?



Hezbollah's strong holds and most of their infastrustures are in southern Lebanon so if they are forced to redraw beyond the litany river then they hold no lands .



The goal was to return the Israeli citizens to their homes whether by military means or negotiations.


Hezbollah tied their fates to Hamas they lost nasrallah and their whole chain of command and for what?


Now after so much heavy losses they have thrown Hamas under the bus.



Israel isn't even happy about the cease fire
Joe Biden is pushing Benjamin Netanyahu to approve the ceasefire agreement in Lebanon in exchange for the removal of the U.S arms embargo on Israel and a US veto in the UN Security Council resolution that will force a ceasefire anyway.

Biden is literally blackmailing Netanyahu while Israel is fighting for its survival.
With such friends who need enemies?

Prime Minister Netanyahu in the marathon of talks throughout the evening: The cease-fire agreement is not ideal, but there is a real danger that the US will impose on us in the United Nations Security Council a unilateral decision to stop the war, when on the one hand there will be sanctions against us if we do not stop, and on the other hand we will not have freedom of action in case of violation. If this happens - we will get both a ceasefire and no agreement - so if it is possible to postpone the end for two months and we have an American commitment to strike for any violation, it is surely better than the alternative.

Do you get it?
The Biden administration is threatening Netanyahu.

ariesbull:
Why do you guys always start conversation with insults especially you Lagos crowd...why call Putards? Where you people raised in abusive environment that everything is abused and insults...why can't you make your point nicely and decently without the insult...just like the other guy Gbadebo, you Lanre is also insulting

Why are you guys always like this ..insulting people that don't see things your way? Why ? Was it the way your parents raise you guys ?

Are you a Putard?

If not, why are you offended. Ignore the word and focus on the main message.

If yes indeed you are a Putard, then stay offended. That's the intention.

Vic2023:
Remember Dier Mimas town that rejected Hezbullah and allowed the Israeli army to enter the town?

Footage was leaked of Israeli soldiers inside the church of Dier Mimas, desecrating it, dancing, cursing Jesus and toying with the bible and crosses.

The video also showed them conducting a mock gay wedding in the church.

obedience4:
You are discussing weapons and foreign relations.
Everyday you keep hearing nuke this nuke that.
Yet you don't even have a soupçon of knowledge of the very weapons systems that are used to deliver such warheads 😅😅.


Never have I seen an massive assemblage of simpletons in one spot

You go just dey float ego wey you no get...
Who here do you think (apart from your fellow pro-west supporters), Do you think does not know how an an ICBM operates...

Has there ever been any use of America hypersonic missiles even in Ukraine?

before now on Wikipedia, the article on the Long Range hypersonic weapon, clearly stated it was experimental.
Only after the latest ballistic missiles strike news, all of a sudden it was shown that it had been in service since 2023...
Why haven't we seen such in Israeli and Ukrainian arsenal.

Get me a real life event record of an American missile reaching mach 24. I have been studying weapons since before you entered primary school. If you think such a weapon actually exists and is ready for use...
Then your still a new to the American scam weapons industry.

lanre316:
Are you a Putard?

If not, why are you offended. Ignore the word and focus on the main message.

If yes indeed you are a Putard, then stay offended. That's the intention.

I don't need to be a Putard or whatever...it's the name calling...please always try and rise above emotions sir

ariesbull:
Why do you guys always start conversation with insults especially you Lagos crowd...why call Putards? Where you people raised in abusive environment that everything is abused and insults...why can't you make your point nicely and decently without the insult...just like the other guy Gbadebo, you Lanre is also insulting

Why are you guys always like this ..insulting people that don't see things your way? Why ? Was it the way your parents raise you guys ?

Will you shut up your rotten mouth? You see why I said people like you never knew the genesis of the insults and counter insults on this thread? You just joined this thread in the last six months and you start taking sides. It's really stupid of you.
For your info, the word "putard" and "NAFO" have been in use on this thread for more than 2 years by the opposing factions of pro Russia and pro Ukraine.
When you don't know the genesis of something, it would be better to just keep quiet, shut up and be a spectator. Don't come and start condemning anybody because they insulted another. You hear? 🧏🧏🧏

nigeriansamurai:
You go just dey float ego wey you no get...
Who here do you think (apart from your fellow pro-west supporters), Do you think does not know how an an ICBM operates...

Has there ever been any use of America hypersonic missiles even in Ukraine?

before now on Wikipedia, the article on the Long Range hypersonic weapon, clearly stated it was experimental.
Only after the latest ballistic missiles strike news, all of a sudden it was shown that it had been in service since 2023...
Why haven't we seen such in Israeli and Ukrainian arsenal.

Get me a real life event record of an American missile reaching mach 24. I have been studying weapons since before you entered primary school. If you think such a weapon actually exists and is ready for use...
Then your still a new to the American scam weapons industry.

It is not by chest beating. That was the same way Japan learned the hard way. It's really baffling for you to think that out of the several nations that raced towards nuclear arms, the first nation to achieve and successfully test it would now in the 21st century be lacking hypersonic missiles. It is really baffling for you to think that a nation that has placed satellites moving at incredible speeds of 38,000 miles per hour and at over 150 million kilometres away from earth, a feat achieved since the 1970s will be lacking in hypersonic missiles.