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Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by CSTRR: 6:07pm On Nov 26, 2024
AllenSpencer:
Kwankwanso and Kalu will not have an impact?

Seems you forgot Nigerian politics is all about money and power. With the number of states PDP is controlling, coupled with the influences of their big guns, it will only split votes in favour of APC.
Kwankwaso have been proven to be a paper tiger.

Giving him a pdp ticket would just be a waste of opportunity.

Kalu would probably do better, but he would lose woefully in the SE where he comes from.

He does not have credibility.

Even tinubu had some level of credibility(Lagos factor) however misguided, which helped him win votes.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by casualobserver: 6:09pm On Nov 26, 2024
CSTRR:
And the vast majority of tinub's votes came from his own people, just like buhari as well.

Infact buhari's electoral strength came from the fact that his own people would always vote for him.

So why should that be a disadvantage to obi?

A would-be president has to win his own people, first.

Are you aware that Obi won most of the military installations in Nigeria?
Those are places where votes are the most credible.

He won lagos and Abuja with a landslide. Those are the two most diverse states in Nigeria.

The places he did not win were core north states and SW states who had their own candidates in the game.

If obi was running with a major party, he would have been able to Garner serious votes even in places he did not win just like APC did for tinubu and pdp did for atiku.
Actually it was the north that made Tinu I president just as it was the SW that made Buhari president. Tell me who are Obi’s Allie’s outside the SE?

Keep arguing like you did in 2023. The next slot for the SE is 2039. Start the process now of grooming someone who can appeal to voters outside the SE. it’s not about who you want it’s about who the voters can accept. Fundamental rule of politics that some of our English speaking political
Analysts dont seem to understand . You field someone who can win. Obi cannot win,

No major party will give him the ticket because they know he is unelectable….that is the point!!!!
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by mrvitalis(m): 6:13pm On Nov 26, 2024
oshiokpu:
You are the one that is Underrating Tinubu.
Do you think it is ordinary for one Man to retain control of a State like Lagos after leaving office since 2007. Note that I’m talking about Lagos, The Centre of Excellence and by Far the Richest State in the whole of Nigeria. He did this from his house in Bourdillion whilst as an ordinary civilian not holding any political office. Everyone with a brain knows that Buhari fought( Albeit indirectly) against the Emergence of Tinubu. All state powers were used to Fight Tinubu including the CBN yet he emerged against a sitting President, VP, Senate President and a Powerful minister (in the person of Amaechi) whilst not holding any political office. You think that kind of person is Ordinary? You must be a Child to think this. In fact you must be a Joker!
Tinubu don't control Lagos.. He is just the head of the team that controls Lagos

Tinubu knows how to compromise couple with Yoruba Oba is God culture

Relax nigeria is not Lagos
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by ShootThemAll(m): 6:15pm On Nov 26, 2024
thesicilian:
If they're setting up a new political party in 2025 then their target should be 2031, not 2027. There's no way a 2yr old party is going to defeat an incumbent, corrupt party in 2027. It's just not realistic.
Even a 2 months old political party can defeat Thiefnubbuu, even your poor arse licking Stockholm syndrome dad that gave you an empty gullible brain can defeat Thiefffnubuuu.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Bluntemperor: 6:17pm On Nov 26, 2024
mrvitalis:
You guys overrate Tinubu so much honestly
Take out el rufai Tinubu would never get APC ticket
If Buhari had made a decision on a candidate Tinubu would never have gotten the ticket
Thinking Tinubu unless he wins people over to him I don't see the rigging that would help him
I really wish Obi can step aside because obi contesting is what's still given Tinubu some assurance
Some of you people's thinking are too shabby and shallow or why do you want El-Rufai here,for a man that brought Kaduna State - to its feet!
Up till now,the States is in Red as your El- Rufai could not account for his tenure, especially the Revenues, Resources and the State Expenditure,but arrogant that he couldn't even defend his eighth- years tenures.
When he was governor so much shedding of blood,especially those of Christians,in Southern Kaduna and couldn't blink that he has the worst State Governor of that State.
He thought the people he ruled over will forget his misrule,until he refused to tell the Senators during Confirmation of New Ministers and he stylishly and arrogantly walked away, and couldn't be accountable for his actions.
Thank God,El-Rufai has left and Kaduna is moving Positively up!
Indomie generations,how now?
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by muykem: 6:19pm On Nov 26, 2024
Britishpea:
Wisdom is expensive! That Tinubu could sway El Rufai who had been campaigning against him since 2020, to his side is enough to make you know that Tinubu is even underrated.... Saraki messed with him and hes trying hard to not to remain a history today...

Same Rufai is currently in moribund...

He (Tinubu)totally destroyed LP.

HE knows what Nigerian politicians want which is money and power and he knows how to lured them with it...

No strong politician without loyalists... and you must know how to gain your loyalists...All these qualities and many more, Tinubu possesses with a high touch of maverick, smartness, and sagacity with alot of brute and ogbaa in readiness to give WHATEVER it takes to get his mission accomplished... and you think any party or politician will remove him without the approach better than him pradeda by all these weak and unintelligent Obi, ATIKU, of the almost extinct PDP, non existent LP and a new party that will surface at the 11th hour..


grow above your wisdom to embrace other peoples views boy
You don't expect this kind of reasoning from IPOB members, they allow emotion and hatred to dominate their reasoning.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by NovusHomo(m): 6:22pm On Nov 26, 2024
Strictlygreen:
Obi is Atikulated yet again. Master and slave.
Obidients are about to become orphans. angry grin
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by highchief1: 6:23pm On Nov 26, 2024
Gjrich:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thesun.ng/2027-atiku-obi-mull-new-political-party/
atiku no just Dey talk to Okowa again lol.vp candidate that couldn’t win his unit.most times cat go Dey assume lion position.If that 2023 was atiku Obi tinubu wouldn’t have survived.the choice of vp destroyed Everyting.even atiku wike tinubu for no fit.okowa na local politician
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by naija1stnigar(m): 6:23pm On Nov 26, 2024
thesicilian:
If they're setting up a new political party in 2025 then their target should be 2031, not 2027. There's no way a 2yr old party is going to defeat an incumbent, corrupt party in 2027. It's just not realistic.
I guess you weren't alive when APC won against PDP in 2015 right!
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Honestwithme: 6:27pm On Nov 26, 2024
thesicilian:
If they're setting up a new political party in 2025 then their target should be 2031, not 2027. There's no way a 2yr old party is going to defeat an incumbent, corrupt party in 2027. It's just not realistic.
You no worry PDP said they will rule Nigeria for the next 30 years but what happened to them....You just dey observe as event go unfold.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by NewHe: 6:28pm On Nov 26, 2024
And some mumu will still queue behind them!
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Honestwithme: 6:29pm On Nov 26, 2024
thesicilian:
If they're setting up a new political party in 2025 then their target should be 2031, not 2027. There's no way a 2yr old party is going to defeat an incumbent, corrupt party in 2027. It's just not realistic.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by lamentor78(m): 6:29pm On Nov 26, 2024
mrvitalis:
You guys overrate Tinubu so much honestly

Take out el rufai Tinubu would never get APC ticket

If Buhari had made a decision on a candidate Tinubu would never have gotten the ticket

Thinking Tinubu unless he wins people over to him I don't see the rigging that would help him

I really wish Obi can step aside because obi contesting is what's still given Tinubu some assurance
Sense is running faster than your brain, same Tinubu that said it publicly that he made Buhari president is whom you said if Buhari made decisions on him.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Sundaymessi: 6:29pm On Nov 26, 2024
Chucks13:
One thing I hate about sour loser is he or she never have shame.

These two foolish losers will surely die of heart attack before 2027 I swear.

Let obi in particular join mega with NNPP, NPF, AGM, BBC, BBT, BBQ, AAS ASS, ATT, PPP, GGG, UTR, JTY, HDF, JVC, SONY, PANASONIC, HISENSE, TOSHIBA, GGM, AUG he will never win election in Nigeria till he die. If you doubt me place your cash on the table for a bet.
So no one should challenge Tinubu because he is from your tribe?
How many Nigerians do you think are really happy with the way the county is being run?

Any party obi join we will kill the party and for my party pdp Atiku is finish he can't represent pdp anylonger and Aso Rock only vacant by 2031
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by ibabz(m): 6:30pm On Nov 26, 2024
kedeojo:
Let the El rufai removed him cos he is not even powerful in kaduna again. Stop making noise, am not a fan of Tinubu but he is a political juggernaut and a desperate politician who will do anything or go any length to get what he want. With kaduna governor and now Shehu Sanni, you think El rufai can't deliver his state to any party he join before 2027. The only candidate that can win Tinubu is former president Jonathan. Even if Atiku and Obi ran on joint ticket, they will still lose. Many people in south south and south west who voted for Obi, will see him as a desperate and not good person he claims to be. The Northerners will still vote for Tinubu because the governors expecially will want to be the beneficiary in 2023. Only Jonathan will command votes across all board. I don't even seeing him contesting again and with is closeness to Tinubu it will be difficult.
I have contrary opinion. I believe this is the game plan of Tinubu; split the opposition’s votes and harness his own domains. Atiku/Obi from new party and probably Jonathan from PDP. If you look closely, you will observe that the same strategy in 2023 is being applied but in a different way. The goal is to split PDP’s votes between Atiku and another candidate from PDP.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by israelmao(m): 6:30pm On Nov 26, 2024
Except Providence intervenes in the affairs of Nigeria or Tinubu succumbs to nature,no one can stand in his way.the beaded bracelet has entered the wrist of deity let see who have the daredevilry to remove it.The mistake has Ben made since 2015.Most Nigerians due to overfeeding called for Buhari's return as a democratic president.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by highchief1: 6:31pm On Nov 26, 2024
kedeojo:
Let the El rufai removed him cos he is not even powerful in kaduna again. Stop making noise, am not a fan of Tinubu but he is a political juggernaut and a desperate politician who will do anything or go any length to get what he want. With kaduna governor and now Shehu Sanni, you think El rufai can't deliver his state to any party he join before 2027. The only candidate that can win Tinubu is former president Jonathan. Even if Atiku and Obi ran on joint ticket, they will still lose. Many people in south south and south west who voted for Obi, will see him as a desperate and not good person he claims to be. The Northerners will still vote for Tinubu because the governors expecially will want to be the beneficiary in 2023. Only Jonathan will command votes across all board. I don't even seeing him contesting again and with is closeness to Tinubu it will be difficult.
u made a lot of sense.but bro if Obi and atiku merge in pdp it’s game over for tinubu.Any serious person now can win tinubu u don’t seem to understand the level of hunger in the country now.even with the divided votes how many votes tinubu take even win in 2023.It was the choice of vp that destroyed atiku.okowa is a village politician.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by muykem: 6:31pm On Nov 26, 2024
ibechris:
U are still thinking in the past.

I am currently in the north,u see many northern politicians would not be re-elected come 2027 if they chose to remain in APC.
The hate for APC in the north is so much that,I doubt if there could be anything that would swing the vote for
them.
If u mention APC any where in the north,u might be injured especially if u refer to Tinubu.
You lack political wisdom but will never accept. North don't vote party but their interest. They will try to get president back to North in 2027 but if it's not possible, they will vote Tinubu again to complete south term.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by ibabz(m): 6:32pm On Nov 26, 2024
israelmao:
Except Providence intervenes in the affairs of Nigeria or Tinubu succumbs to nature,no one can stand in his way.the bead bracelet has entered the wrist of deity let see who have the daredevilry to remove it.
I disagree, all we need is a good strategist that can detect Tinubu’s strategy and counter him.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by highchief1: 6:33pm On Nov 26, 2024
mrvitalis:
Have u ever lived in the North? ... It's impossible to rig in the North if you are unpopular no matter what

Try it and instant death... No inec official would even take that risk... Ask OBJ

Tinubu is so unpopular in the North today unless that changes he won't get 25%
100% true.i officiated as a copa in yobe state during 2011 election.I was given money to rig but voters fold hand Dey look me I couldnt rig o I just return alhaji money to am.Its not only in the north.to rig,everybody must agree and be on same page if not e no easy
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by seguntijan(m): 6:33pm On Nov 26, 2024
PDP sold and destroyed all Nigeria refineries, APC is bring them back to life.

PDP killed the trust of Nigerians for Nigeria, APC are bringing is back to life.

PDP campaigned and promised the Igbos 2nd Niger bridge, APC didn’t campaign with it but they built it.

PDP were wasting $4b yearly to pour sand in bar beach so that flood won’t take over Lagos, APC turned bar beach to Lagos Atlantic City.

PDP stole $16b light money and left Nigerians in darkness, APC are revamping the power sector and giving us more stable power.

PDP sold Nigeria infrastructures to friends and family at awoof prices, APC are building more.

PDP should never happen to Nigeria again.

I know you are coming to talk about rice. Awon ti o moju ounje lo 🤣
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Tareq1105: 6:35pm On Nov 26, 2024
Gjrich:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thesun.ng/2027-atiku-obi-mull-new-political-party/
It would not work. If you look at the permutations with a very strong political antenna and compass, you will know that it will not work.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by highchief1: 6:36pm On Nov 26, 2024
ibechris:
U are still thinking in the past.

I am currently in the north,u see many northern politicians would not be re-elected come 2027 if they chose to remain in APC.
The hate for APC in the north is so much that,I doubt if there could be anything that would swing the vote for
them.
If u mention APC any where in the north,u might be injured especially if u refer to Tinubu.
hmmmm.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by udeh3(m): 6:36pm On Nov 26, 2024
Britishpea:
Wisdom is expensive! That Tinubu could sway El Rufai who had been campaigning against him since 2020, to his side is enough to make you know that Tinubu is even underrated.... Saraki messed with him and hes trying hard to not to remain a history today...

Same Rufai is currently in moribund...

He (Tinubu)totally destroyed LP.

HE knows what Nigerian politicians want which is money and power and he knows how to lured them with it...

No strong politician without loyalists... and you must know how to gain your loyalists...All these qualities and many more, Tinubu possesses with a high touch of maverick, smartness, and sagacity with alot of brute and ogbaa in readiness to give WHATEVER it takes to get his mission accomplished... and you think any party or politician will remove him without the approach better than him pradeda by all these weak and unintelligent Obi, ATIKU, of the almost extinct PDP, non existent LP and a new party that will surface at the 11th hour..


grow above your wisdom to embrace other peoples views boy
I support your view. Nevertheless, Obi and a strong northern voice can do better than what Obi got in 2023.

Our political structure will be better of if we have strong oppositions. This is why I will stick with Obi and Kwankwaso combination
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by highchief1: 6:36pm On Nov 26, 2024
IrepChrist:
Atiku will be 80 by 2027. He should throw his weight behind Petet Obi.
why is nobody talking about Okowa
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Forkthiefnubu: 6:37pm On Nov 26, 2024
thesicilian:
If they're setting up a new political party in 2025 then their target should be 2031, not 2027. There's no way a 2yr old party is going to defeat an incumbent, corrupt party in 2027. It's just not realistic.
APC is an affliction and not a political party , it is a national emergency and all hands shud be on the deck to flush them out
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by bobby007(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2024
mrvitalis:
So you suggest they do nothing?

Would you vote for Tinubu yes or no
Tinubu still have 2yrs 6 months to turn things around, he might get it right
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by israelmao(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2024
ibabz:
I disagree, all we need is a good strategist that can detect Tinubu’s strategy and counter him.
With Mahmood Yakubu INEC?
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by hedonido: 6:41pm On Nov 26, 2024
Democracy and elections would not remove this desperate thief they allowed to snatch power. The bastard doesn't play by the rules so you can't unseat him by playing by the rules.

We should stop fooling around and do the needful. You have to beat him at his own game.
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Akpakomiza2: 6:49pm On Nov 26, 2024
mrvitalis:
Have u ever lived in the North? ... It's impossible to rig in the North if you are unpopular no matter what

Try it and instant death... No inec official would even take that risk... Ask OBJ

Tinubu is so unpopular in the North today unless that changes he won't get 25%
But you believe Tinubu rigged obi
Re: 2027: Atiku, Obi Mull New Political Party. by Chegesnd: 6:50pm On Nov 26, 2024
Britishpea:
Wisdom is expensive! That Tinubu could sway El Rufai who had been campaigning against him since 2020, to his side is enough to make you know that Tinubu is even underrated.... Saraki messed with him and hes trying hard to not to remain a history today...

Same Rufai is currently in moribund...

He (Tinubu)totally destroyed LP.

HE knows what Nigerian politicians want which is money and power and he knows how to lured them with it...

No strong politician without loyalists... and you must know how to gain your loyalists...All these qualities and many more, Tinubu possesses with a high touch of maverick, smartness, and sagacity with alot of brute and ogbaa in readiness to give WHATEVER it takes to get his mission accomplished... and you think any party or politician will remove him without the approach better than him pradeda by all these weak and unintelligent Obi, ATIKU, of the almost extinct PDP, non existent LP and a new party that will surface at the 11th hour..


grow above your wisdom to embrace other peoples views boy
The truth is simple! Nigerians were fed up with PDP's acts of indiscretion while they held sway.
There was a great desire for change, remember the party said they will rule Nigeria for 60yrs.
Unfortunately, the change threw up an accidental Buhari, who almost ran the country aground.
Unfortunately still, there is another calamity waiting to take advantage of the directionless Buhari. I say so because he's not sure and certain who he wants as successor.
Deploying all the funds he has looted from Lagos state to buy over almost all stakeholders in the party, against more brainy contestants like Osinbanjo.
Pls let's separate smartness at notoriety from smartness of sincerity.
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