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Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:08am On Nov 08, 2024
Why should religionists of all kinds hate Jesus' real disciples? Matthew 24:9
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:24am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why should religionists of all kinds hate Jesus' real disciples? Matthew 24:9
lost false jw mad max

Jesus real disciples are not you lying and paranoid and blaspheming false witnesses, are they oh confused one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:33am On Nov 08, 2024
Why were Jesus' disciples recognized with their unique faith in the first century but today what we have is thousands of different religious sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians? smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:36am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why were Jesus' disciples recognized with their unique faith in the first century but today what we have is thousands of different religious sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians? smiley
oh duh, lost false jw mad max

and you false jw's are one of them sects with conflicting doctrines

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:38am On Nov 08, 2024
Why is it so hard for many to speak boldly about their own church but always criticizing a unique group?
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:44am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why is it so hard for many to speak boldly about their own church but always criticizing a unique group?
lost false jw mad max

as is already shown, your teaching that Jesus is a deceiver and that Jehovah is not Almighty
and that Jehovah is not all knowing certainly is unique teachings, and false teachings/lies

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:53am On Nov 08, 2024
Satan doesn't have anything to say about his own faith instead what he wants to do is kick against what God says! Genesis 3:4-5 smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:27am On Nov 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Satan doesn't have anything to say about his own faith instead what he wants to do is kick against what God says! Genesis 3:4-5 smiley
lost false jw mad max

yes satan kicks against what God says, and you are just like him
saying; Jesus is a deceiver and Jehovah isn't Almighty and Jehovah doesn't know it all etc.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:59pm On Nov 08, 2024
Study God's word (Bible) with Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
who would study the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses
who are false prophets, false date setters, etc.

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:44am On Nov 09, 2024
who would study the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses
who are false prophets, false date setters, etc.

"Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3 How Are You Using Your Life?

"Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus' prophecy will shortly have a major fulfilment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time." Awake! 1974 Nov 8 p.11
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:13pm On Nov 09, 2024
According to Malachi 3:16
They are paying attention to what is important as they are studying God's word with Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 11:03pm On Nov 09, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Witnesses stocked up on long life food, reminiscent of Mormon pantries. One of my friend's families hid items in the bush, including a cross bow so they could quietly hunt animals during Armageddon. Others went further; they cashed in superannuation plans, cancelled health insurance and sold their homes and bought caravans to live in. This created great problems for many families as they were totally unprepared for lives that would extend on for many decades.

Even external news sources understood the message that the Watchtower was indicating. The July 18th 1969 issue of Time contained an article "Witnessing the End" that stated;

"In fact, they fully expect the cataclysm of Armageddon within the next few years. The latest calculations of this energetic, eschatology-minded sect date the end of the world in autumn, 1975. Fearful as it may be to other religious believers, the end is a prospect that rejoices the hearts of the 323,688 U.S. members of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as the Witnesses are..."1

Post 1975 Print Edition Changes

The 1968 edition of The Truth book contained subtle quotes pointing to the fact that the world could not survive past 1975.

"Back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acherson declared that our time is "a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence" And he warned: "I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in fifteen years from today this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."" The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life p.9 1968 edition

The revised edition published in 1981, replaced this quote to read as follows:

"Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is "a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence." Based on what he knew was then going on in the world, it was his conclusion that soon "this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."" The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life p.9

Likewise the 1968 edition contained a quote from the book Famine--1975! referring to how unlivable the world would be by 1975.

""By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations.""The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life pp.88-89
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:40am On Nov 10, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Blaming Jehovah's Witnesses for having false expectations is a common theme. Watchtower strongly promoted that the world would end in 1914, and then in 1925. Regarding the failure of the end eventuating in 1914, Watchtower wrote:

“There were also other expectations concerning 1914. Alexander H. Macmillan, who had been baptized in September 1900, later recalled: "A few of us seriously thought we were going to heaven during the first week of that October. Had some been attracted by the thought of their own early salvation rather than love for God and a strong desire to do his will?” Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.61

Watchtower similarly shifted blame to the members after 1925, shirking responsibility despite having printed a considerable amount of literature promoting 1925 as the time for Jesus return.

"Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything." Watch Tower 1926 p.232
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:04am On Nov 11, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

Jehovah's Witnesses are forced to ignore intelligent lines of reason and follow whatever is promoted in the Watchtower. The excitement over 1975 is testament to how their thinking ability atrophies. There are at least three obvious reasons for why 1975 could not be the date for Armageddon.

Adam's creation was neither the end of creation nor the start of God's day of rest. The Bible does not tell when God created Eve. The Watchtower 1955 Feb 1 p.95 specifically said as much;

"The very fact that, as part of Jehovah's secret, no one today is able to find out how much time Adam and later Eve lived during the closing days of the sixth creative period, so no one can now determine when six thousand years of Jehovah's present rest day come to an end."

During the 1975 hype it began being stated that Adam and Eve were created in the same year, speaking of "the year of Adam and Eve's creation in 4026 B.C.E." (Watchtower 1968 May 1 p.271) Immediately following the failure of 1975 the Watchtower reverted to their original position.

"But that great rest day did not begin immediately after Adam's creation. Other events took place after Adam's creation but before the close of the sixth creative day. One of these is of great importance to all of us. That is the creation of the first woman, Eve." Watchtower 1976 Jul 15 p.436

The angels were observing as the day of creation ended and hence would know the day for the start of Armageddon if it was to be a simple 6000 year calculation yet the Bible states the angels did not know the time for the end.

Matthew 24:36 "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

The Bible does not specify the length of the creative days or the seventh day. It does not indicate that God's day of rest is 7,000 years, or that Jesus reign is to start after 6,000 years.

The shallow reasoning the Watchtower had used to support its promotion of 1975 does not say much for the doctrinal integrity of the Governing Body. Acceptance of this doctrine also says wonders about the gullibility of the followers, indicating a lack of any deep desire to see truth beyond what appears written in the pages of the Watchtower.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:14am On Nov 11, 2024
According to Malachi 3:16
They are paying attention to what is important as they are studying God's word with Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:40am On Nov 12, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


some false prophecies and false date settings of so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts dot com:

The failure of 1914 and 1925 taught the Watchtower the danger of specific date setting, but there can be no misunderstanding the implication of the articles prior to 1975. However, ask a Jehovah's Witnesses now whether 1975 was ever thought to be the end of the world and the answer will invariably be denial. This is in line with how the Watchtower paints this part of its history. Notice the brief discussion the Proclaimers book devotes to this important time of growth and the extent of an admission of error.

"Brother Franz then referred to the many questions that had arisen as to whether the material in the new book meant that by 1975 Armageddon would be finished, and Satan would be bound. He stated, in essence: 'It could. But we are not saying . All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that.’ ... However, other statements were published on this subject, and some were likely more definite than advisable." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.104
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:02am On Nov 13, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

The Jehovah’s Witnesses arose within the end-time fervor of the latter half of the 19th century that produced the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) and the Seventh-day Adventists as well as the Pentecostal Latter Rain theology.
Charles Taze Russell The Jehovah’s Witnesses originated in America with Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916).
Russell had been a Presbyterian, a Congregationalist, and an Adventist before he formed the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
In the 1870s he organized a Bible study and by 1880 there were 30 congregations following his teaching.
In 1879, he began publishing a magazine called The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.
In 1884, he incorporated the Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society.
He published his doctrine in six books called Studies in the Scriptures.
He claimed to be the “Seventh Messenger” of Revelation 10:7.
In 1909, the headquarters was moved to Brooklyn, New York.
Russell falsely predicted that Armageddon would occur by 1916.
His wife divorced him in 1911 because of his immoral relations with other women.
Russell claimed that he could read Greek, but in a court of law he was shown to be a liar in that he could not decipher even the basic Greek alphabet.

Russell claimed to be the “Seventh Messenger” of Revelation 10:7:
Rev 10:7  but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets. 

^^ this fraud group began with a false prophet who was immoral and a liar,
millions today are still followers of men like this
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:25am On Nov 13, 2024
Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 7:50am On Nov 14, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

Joseph Rutherford

Joseph F. Rutherford became president upon the death of
Russell and led the organization until 1942. Under his
leadership, it grew quickly.
In 1931, Rutherford changed the name of the organization
to Jehovah’s Witnesses. In the early days, they were known as
Russellites, Millennial Dawn People, and International Bible
Students.
Rutherford predicted that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
would be resurrected in 1925 and he built them a mansion —
which he occupied when the patriarchs didn’t show up!
Rutherford was an alcoholic.

^^ russell a immoral false prophet and a proven liar, and rutherford a alcoholic false prophet
started the sect which is known as Jehovah's witnesses, and persons follow this group still today
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 10:33pm On Nov 15, 2024
johnw47:
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; wayoflife dot org

Joseph Rutherford

Joseph F. Rutherford became president upon the death of
Russell and led the organization until 1942. Under his
leadership, it grew quickly.
In 1931, Rutherford changed the name of the organization
to Jehovah’s Witnesses. In the early days, they were known as
Russellites, Millennial Dawn People, and International Bible
Students.
Rutherford predicted that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
would be resurrected in 1925 and he built them a mansion —
which he occupied when the patriarchs didn’t show up!
Rutherford was an alcoholic.

^^ russell a immoral false prophet and a proven liar, and rutherford a alcoholic false prophet
started the sect which is known as Jehovah's witnesses, and persons follow this group still today

https://www.nairaland.com/8265126/catholics-right-pentecostals-not-christians/3#132881591
John MUMU WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.

Go reconcile your 3 deities devotees displaying the conflicting doctrines given them by the same ghost deity on this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/8265126/catholics-right-pentecostals-not-christians/3#132881591

grin grin cheesy
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
Janosky:
John MUMU WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
Go reconcile your 3 deities devotees displaying the conflicting doctrines given them by the same ghost deity on this thread.
grin grin cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky

truly, the Christian's Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
is not 3 deities/3 gods as you love to blaspheme over and over again
and the Holy Spirit doesn't give conflicting doctrines as you also love to accuse Him of:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire



you people claim to be Jehovah's witness, yet when you lie like this all over the place
you make Jehovah Who you say you witness for, to be a liar

you people don't witness for Jehovah.
with all your lies, you are the devil's witnesses

Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 12:59am On Nov 16, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

more about the so called Jehovah's witnesses; jwfacts..com

Jesus said he would provide his followers Holy Spirit to correctly understand what the future holds.

"However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming." John 16:13

Whereas doctrine is subjective and un-provable, time prophecy leaves no room for error. On a number of occasions the Watchtower put a line in the sand when saying a specific event was going to happen on a specific date. When those dates passed without event those statements proved beyond argument to be false. When something predicted to happen does not occur there is irrefutable evidence that Jehovah did not direct the interpretation. In line with the Scriptures above, the following incorrect dates prove the Watchtower Society is not guided by Jehovah.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:55pm On Nov 26, 2024
Malachi 3:16
Those discussing about God and His Kingdom will have their names written in the book of life! Revelations 20:15 smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Ken4Christ: 8:58pm On Nov 26, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, once again you are all welcome! smiley
The Bible you have turned upside down with false teachings.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 11:07pm On Nov 26, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Malachi 3:16
Those discussing about God and His Kingdom will have their names written in the book of life! Revelations 20:15 smiley
lost false jw mad max

not if those have spoken against the Holy Spirit:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:51pm On Nov 26, 2024
Ken4Christ:
The Bible you have turned upside down with false teachings.
Mention the church that's not teaching falsehood after all there is contradictions everywhere so its stupidity claiming a religion is teaching falsehood when thousands aren't agreeing on doctrine! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:53pm On Nov 26, 2024
johnw47:
not if those have spoken against the Holy Spirit:
Pastor Confucius mention the name of your church so everyone can know what they are teaching! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Pastor Confucius mention the name of your church so everyone can know what they are teaching! smiley
lost false jw mad max

talk about pastor confucius, you have asked me that many times, even recently,
and i have told you more than once, you are so confused, of course:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:37am On Nov 27, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
talk about pastor confucius, you have asked me that many times, even recently,
and i have told you more than once, you are so confused, of course:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Fake pastor!
No church, no specific doctrine, no members yet running after Jehovah's Witnesses claiming you want to expose falsehood.
If you're not stupid is it not the true church you supposed to present so that everyone can compare and see the falsehood in all other religions?
God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it's noticable in Jehovah's Witnesses organization only! 1Corinthians 14:33

But if you feel there is any other church that's not confused just mention it! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Ken4Christ: 6:58am On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Mention the church that's not teaching falsehood after all there is contradictions everywhere so its stupidity claiming a religion is teaching falsehood when thousands aren't agreeing on doctrine! smiley
You think every church is like you. You are not even followers of Christ to start with. You don't believe in Jesus:

You don't believe in the divinity of Jesus
You don't believe God raised him from the dead
You don't believe he is coming back.
etc
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:17am On Nov 27, 2024
Ken4Christ:
You think every church is like you. You are not even followers of Christ to start with. You don't believe in Jesus:
You don't believe in the divinity of Jesus
You don't believe God raised him from the dead
You don't believe he is coming back.
etc
What is the name of your own church?

Simple question! smiley
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