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Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:43am On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Fake pastor!
No church, no specific doctrine, no members yet running after Jehovah's Witnesses claiming you want to expose falsehood.
If you're not stupid is it not the true church you supposed to present so that everyone can compare and see the falsehood in all other religions?
God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it's noticable in Jehovah's Witnesses organization only! 1Corinthians 14:33
But if you feel there is any other church that's not confused just mention it! smiley
lost false jw mad max

i'm not a pastor, let alone a fake pastor, but you can never stop lying like your father the devil, can you oh fraud:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:04am On Nov 27, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

i'm not a pastor, let alone a fake pastor, but you can never stop lying like your father the devil, can you oh fraud:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Mr Faithlessness! cheesy
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:38am On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Mr Faithlessness! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

of course you a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit
is full of lies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Ken4Christ: 11:37am On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your own church?

Simple question! smiley
What has church name got to do with the truth?

Hell is very hot oooo. You will be tormented day and night if you don't repent. Don't say you were not warned.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:20pm On Nov 27, 2024
Ken4Christ:
What has church name got to do with the truth?
Hell is very hot oooo. You will be tormented day and night if you don't repent. Don't say you were not warned.
If name of church matters doesn't matter then stop quoting me because i'm a Christian and it's only by talking about church that you've been following me up and down the forum.

As for Hell my God said you are lying! Jeremiah 7:31 smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Ken4Christ: 2:59pm On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If name of church matters doesn't matter then stop quoting me because i'm a Christian and it's only by talking about church that you've been following me up and down the forum.

As for Hell my God said you are lying! Jeremiah 7:31 smiley
You are not a Christian. Rather, you are an anti Christ. You uphold and teach the lies of Jehovah Witness.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:23pm On Nov 27, 2024
Ken4Christ:
You are not a Christian. Rather, you are an anti Christ. You uphold and teach the lies of Jehovah Witness.
The highlighted is what makes you a criminal!

If you don't want church to be mentioned then there's no sense in mentioning my own! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:10am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I always tell trinitarians:

There will never be any concrete agreement on mode of worship within trinitarians! Luke 11:23

So if JWs say Jesus is Archangel Michael, let them argue from now till tomorrow the truth remains that it's only the Organization that believe Jesus is Michael can produce the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in their midst, then there's no need dragging issues with any of them!

Whoever wants to know the secret of the LOVE, JOY and PEACE in our gathering should come and learn, anyone who feels he knows better is free to pitch his tent elsewhere! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Ken4Christ: 10:52pm On Nov 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what makes you a criminal!

If you don't want church to be mentioned then there's no sense in mentioning my own! smiley
I have to because that is what you represent. You always mention them when you are making posts. But my teaching is not based on denominational beliefs but on God's word which every true church of Christ upholds
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by epfa: 4:10am On Nov 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Fake pastor!
No church, no specific doctrine, no members yet running after Jehovah's Witnesses claiming you want to expose falsehood.
If you're not stupid is it not the true church you supposed to present so that everyone can compare and see the falsehood in all other religions?
God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it's noticable in Jehovah's Witnesses organization only! 1Corinthians 14:33

But if you feel there is any other church that's not confused just mention it! smiley
The "church" in original language meant "group." It wasn't a corporation like a business corporation or some kind of pharisaical hierarchy arrangement. The people generally met in homes in small groups.

Jesus warned us against religious-looking wolves who were actually in bed with "the world." There are many religions that claim to be faithful to God all the while proving disloyal by means of being in bed with the political leaders in a figurative way. The Watchtower organization belongs to the United Nations through their association with the "United Religions Initiative" group.

JW Watchtower Kaboom!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzI6nONTR9c

Jesus told us to stay away from Babylon the Great. We don't need to be part of a corporation like the Catholic church or the Watchtower or another such group. Being a Christian means following Christ and showing love to people wherever we go.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 5:48am On Nov 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Fake pastor!
No church, no specific doctrine, no members yet running after Jehovah's Witnesses claiming you want to expose falsehood.
If you're not stupid is it not the true church you supposed to present so that everyone can compare and see the falsehood in all other religions?
God is not the author of confusion but of peace as it's noticable in Jehovah's Witnesses organization only! 1Corinthians 14:33
But if you feel there is any other church that's not confused just mention it! smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

yes i can see from your lies and language, your state of peace smiley

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:27am On Nov 30, 2024
And the only true religion will have love among themselves:

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Study God's word with Jesus' real disciples today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 8:53am On Dec 04, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:

more on 1874; from jwfacts..com



Next our attention was drawn to the subject of the TIME of our Lord's coming. Before this we had strenuously ignored time, partly because of its being made so much of by "Second Adventists," and because of the frequent failures of their expectations. Moreover, the fact that they claimed the destruction of the world to be the impending event, and used the periods of time mentioned in Scripture to mark the time of that destruction, was another reason why we were disposed to ignore the subject of time. Their erroneous theory of the destruction of the world cast discredit on the time which they associated with it.

When, however, the manner of our Lord's coming was seen in the light of what he is--a spiritual, and no longer a human being--then we saw that our Father had provided TIME in the Bible, that thus we might know, or see with the eye of our understanding, what we could not see with our natural eyes-- viz., the Lord's presence. A careful study of times and seasons taught in Scripture convinced us that the Lord was due to be present in 1874, and other time teachings of the Word showed that in the spring of 1875 the restitution of all things was due to commence." Zion's Watch Tower 1883 Aug p.1

Initially, Russell felt that the battle of Armageddon started in 1874, based on his understanding that this was a social upheaval.

"The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874." Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 15 p.23

"... the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced." The Time is at Hand p.101

still more to come on 1874



"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:59am On Dec 04, 2024
Hatred will be found against them throughout the earth because no other religion can stand beside them in doing God's will! Matthew 24:9
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:25pm On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Hatred will be found against them throughout the earth because no other religion can stand beside them in doing God's will! Matthew 24:9
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

truly blaspheming and lying and paranoia etc. is not God's will, oh confused one:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:05am On Dec 05, 2024
No weapon formed against their faith that can have any success, they will continue to go out declaring the GOOD NEWS assigned to them because their righteousness is from the most high God! Isaiah 54:17 smiley

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
No weapon formed against their faith that can have any success, they will continue to go out declaring the GOOD NEWS assigned to them because their righteousness is from the most high God! Isaiah 54:17 smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

false jw, you love to post idols/pictures, of your idols/other false jw's,
and some of your idols are holding another idol/picture of another idol/a false jesus

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:26am On Dec 05, 2024
The organization of blessed people that none of their enemies can curse! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:35am On Dec 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The organization of blessed people that none of their enemies can curse! smiley
oh duh, lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

you are cursed; blaspheming, habitual lying, paranoia, etc.
those characteristics are certainly not blessings

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 9:36am On Dec 05, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:

from jwfacts..com


1874 was still being used well after 1914

"Bible prophecy shows that the Lord was due to appear for the second time in the year 1874. Fulfilled prophecy shows beyond a doubt that he did appear in 1874. Fulfilled prophecy is otherwise designated the physical facts; and these facts are indisputable." Watchtower 1922 Nov 1 p.333

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" Watchtower 1924 Jan 1 p.5)

"The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D." Prophecy 1929 1,589,000 ed. p.65

"Applying the same rule then, of a day for a year, 1335 days after 539 A.D. brings us to 1874 A.D. at which time, according to Biblical chronology, the Lord's second presence was due." Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.298




"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:21pm On Dec 05, 2024
Let them say "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" because there is no other true Christian organization! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:25pm On Dec 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Let them say "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" because there is no other true Christian organization! smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

DELUSION:
so called Jehovah's witnesses there is no other true Christian organization

REALITY:
so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:32am On Dec 06, 2024
JEHOVAH promised that the enemies of truth will be silenced {Isaiah 54:17} praise Jehovah they kept complaining about God's organized people but can they present a better performing group?
NO! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 6:08am On Dec 06, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH promised that the enemies of truth will be silenced {Isaiah 54:17} praise Jehovah they kept complaining about God's organized people but can they present a better performing group?
NO! smiley
oh duh very dum lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit

any group that doesn't habitually lie or blaspheme and isn't paranoid etc.
is a better performing group than you false jehovah's witnesses

false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

your blasphemy is unforgivable
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

your final destination
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:15am On Dec 06, 2024
johnw47:
any group
Shame on faithless people!
Any group is NO group! cheesy

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 6:28am On Dec 06, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Shame on faithless people!
Any group is NO group! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

lie and fool yourself from now to the lake of fire oh dum dum
but truly any group that doesn't habitually lie or blaspheme and isn't paranoid etc.
is a better performing group than you false jehovah's witnesses

false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

your blasphemy is unforgivable
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

your final destination
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:43am On Dec 06, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

lie and fool yourself from now to the lake of fire oh dum dum
but truly any group that doesn't habitually lie or blaspheme and isn't paranoid etc.
is a better performing group than you false jehovah's witnesses

false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

your blasphemy is unforgivable
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

your final destination
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
https://www.nairaland.com/8286373/let-there-light-genesis-1
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 7:25am On Dec 06, 2024
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:47am On Dec 06, 2024
johnw47:
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max
https://www.nairaland.com/8286373/let-there-light-genesis-1#133180565
No brighter light could be found! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:27am On Dec 06, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:

from jwfacts..com


1878

1878 was expected to fulfil many events, on the basis it was 3 ½ years after 1874, a period paralleling Jesus' 3 ½ year earthly ministry. 1878 was the year Jesus would take rulership in heaven, was the start of the heavenly resurrection, and expected to result in the rapture.

Jesus Heavenly Rulership

1878 was the year Jesus took rulership in heaven.

"... he would in reality assume the kingly office, power, etc., viz., in the spring of 1878, three and a half years after his second advent at the beginning of the harvest period, in the fall of 1874." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) p.234

"Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878... " Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand (1889) p.101

"... 1874 as the time of our Lord's second presence as Bridegroom and Reaper, and to April 1878 as the time when he began to exercise his office of King of kings and Lord of lords ..." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.150

"The spring of A.D. 1878 (three and a half years later) corresponds to the date at which our Lord assumed the office of King, rode on the ass, cleansed the temple of its money-changers, and wept over and gave up to desolation that nominal church or kingdom; and it marks the date when the nominal church systems were "spewed out" (Rev. 3:16), and from which time (A.D. 1878) they are not the mouth pieces of God, nor in any degree recognized by him." Studies In the Scriptures Series - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235

"Based on the premise that events of the first century might find parallels in related events later, they also concluded that if Jesus' baptism and anointing in the autumn of 29 C.E. paralleled the beginning of an invisible presence in 1874, then his ride into Jerusalem as King in the spring of 33 C.E. would point to the spring of 1878 as the time when he would assume his power as heavenly King." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (1993) p.632

Jesus earthly rulership was expected to follow in 1914. In the 1920's, after 1914 had failed to deliver upon its expectations, Watchtower shifted the start of Jesus invisible heavenly rulership from 1878 to 1914.





"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 12:35pm On Dec 06, 2024
No brighter light could be found! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by johnw47: 10:43pm On Dec 06, 2024
studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:

from jwfacts..com


Beginning of Heavenly Resurrection from the Grave

1878 was the start of the resurrection of the dead saints.

In 1906, Russell claimed that the "Lord has helped and guided" him to reveal the truth, explaining that whilst wrong about the living being taken to heaven in 1878, it was the date those already dead were taken to heaven. This was a handy interpretation, since it could not be proven false.

"We did not then see, as we now do,* that that date (1878) marked the time for the beginning of the establishment of the Kingdom of God, by the glorification of all who already slept in Christ, and that the "change" which Paul mentions (I Cor. 15:51) is to occur in the moment of dying, to all the class described, from that date onward through the harvest period, until all the living members ("the feet"wink of the body of Christ shall have been changed to glorious spirit beings. But when at that date nothing occurred which we could see, a re-examination of the matter showed me that our mistake lay in expecting to see all the living saints changed at once, and without dying--an erroneous view shared in by the whole nominal church, and one which we had not yet observed or discarded." Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jul p.230

"Our Lord's resurrection occurred three and a half years after his advent as the Messiah, in A.D. 29; and the resurrection of his body, the Church, we have seen, was due in the year 1878, three and a half years after his second advent, in October 1874." Studies In the Scriptures Series - Thy Kingdom Come p.305

"In the year 1878, the dead in Christ were resurrected, as shown by number 8. It was time for them to be engaged in kingdom work. In that same year a call was issued for the saints on this side of the "veil" to come out of Babylon. The 1845 years of fleshly Israel's disfavor ended in 1878." Explanation of Chart Representing the Plan of the Ages

Despite the Lord's help, this interpretation too was wrong, as Watchtower now claims this event occurred in 1914.


"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
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