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IAmHim1:
■ I don't believe Lucifer is a myth. I believe everything is created in pairs... light/darkness...war/peace...day/night...man/woman
■ If there's Christ, then there's an antichrist...as we call the devil
■ AND the greatest mistake the devil WILL EVER MAKE is to come to you with Black clothes, horns on his head and black clouds following...read the bible with christians...then REVERSE WHAT IT SAYS...I just want to learn both darkness and light. You should too

1. Well, regardless of what you believe, the character called Lucifer has no place in Scripture so it it is definitely of myth.

2. Satan is the one who is antichrist and he, Satan, as revealed in the book of Job, and much of Scripture works for God by doing His bidding. So Satan somehow occupies the role of God's human quality control manager in the preparing of humans and weeding out those who are rather enemies of God.

3. I am afraid that idea is of boogie tales and not reality. Stop reading your own ideas in between the lines of Scripture pretending it is Scripture you quote still when instead you quote from your private delusions. Satan of Scripture does none of those as he instead occupies perfectly the role that God created him for. So the obsession of men with him is just that, the obsession of men and none of his.

Lucifer, Satan, devil, prince of the power of the air, son of the morning e.t.c are just different names and characteristics of the same spirit that was good but later fought God. The bible says Micheal fought with the Dragon. Clearly God was his enemy too.

1MILLIONLiGHTS:
Lucifer, Satan, devil, prince of the power of the air, son of the morning e.t.c are just different names and characteristics of the same spirit that was good but later fought God. The bible says Micheal fought with the Dragon. Clearly God was his enemy too.

Who is Michael and why did He fight the dragon?

Michael would be Marduk..

Marduk fought and defeated the dragon(Tiamat).

He created the universe with her body..

The gospel stories comes from ancient tales about Marduk.

Well, inanna is Lucifer. That makes Lucifer a she rather than a he. She elevated herself to the pantheon by stealing the Mes from Enki.

Enki was the father of Marduk...

Marduk is the same as the God of the Tanakh..

IAmHim1:
Hahaha. Funny guy

Nothing obviously funny about any of what is stated in scripture there.

IAmHim1:
■ You're the scriptures Guy. Everything you know and believe about Christianity is what you find in your bible. You refuse to go out of your comfort cus you've built your life around what you've learnt from your bible and any attempt assimilating new knowledge by you would destroy the very fabric of your REALITY. You know what I think...I think you're limiting yourself. Simply put

You obviously know nothing about me it seems!

IAmHim1:
■Hahaha so says the scriptures guy. It's Sunday today...wont you go memorize sum' verses?

LOL... I am not a churchian nor do I subscribe to religion. Yes, I know scripture but I don't memorize at all because unlike you, I actually read to comprehend what is in fact written rather than ignorantly accept the narratives fed to me by equally ignorant folks out there.

IAmHim1:
■ Solomon was given a ring to control demons to build Gods church. The heavenly logic being if man(God's creation) could build temples for demons, then God can make the same demons who think they CAN BE to build his OWN TEMPLE. Power law at play but it's not in your full Bible
Can you ever believe this?
Can you ever believe what you just read?

Oh, i read the Keys of Solomon and it is exactly what it reads of, the brain farts of mind riddled with bullsheet.

Look, it is one thing to subscribe to the many occult texts out there but to pretend they are somehow connected to the God of Israel, you have to go beyond bullsheet to do so. Even Mohammed couldn't achieve this and he has a religion that boasts of over a million followers named after him.

IAmHim1:
Solomon was given a ring to control demons to build Gods church. The heavenly logic being if man(God's creation) could build temples for demons, then God can make the same demons who think they CAN BE to build his OWN TEMPLE.

Power law at play but it's not in your full Bible

Can you ever believe this?
Can you ever believe what you just read?

You can't get anywhere with that guy...


His ignorance is higher than the tower of Babel..

Just ignore...that what most people do here...

He will soon wake up from his slumber...

Kobojunkie:
LOL... I am not a churchian nor do I subscribe to religion. Yes, I know scripture but I don't memorize at all because unlike you, I actually read to comprehend what is in fact written rather than ignorantly accept the narratives fed to me by equally ignorant folks out there.

Its great to hear that you don’t subscribe to religion

Lucifer is a she...

Not a he...

She is the goddess(Orishas) of death and destruction..

And also of love and wisdom.

She and God(Marduk) are enemies....

I wonder why Catholic would think she(as Mary the mother of jesus) would have a son by him.
That is an insult..
Inanna and Marduk are enemies...She lied against him. She accused him of causing the death of Dimuzzi. But she caused it...

Interesting epic though....but only for the discerning mind.

FriendsAndFans:
Its great to hear that you don’t subscribe to religion

Religion is a man-made system of ideas built around the mentions of God, that has absolutely nothing to do with God and is majorly used by men against their fellow men.

Kobojunkie:
Religion is a man-made system of ideas built around the mentions of God, that has absolutely nothing to do with God and is majorly used by men against their fellow men.

the bible is inspired

FriendsAndFans:
the bible is inspired

What do you mean inspired ??

Care to explain ?


I will give you my own opinion

22jumpstreet1:
What do you mean inspired ??

Care to explain ?


I will give you my own opinion

When i speak of the Bible as inspired, i am referring to the fact that God divinely influenced the human authors of the Scriptures in such a way that what they wrote was the very Word of God.
In the context of the Scriptures, the word “inspiration” simply means “God-breathed.”
Inspiration means the Bible truly is the Word of God and makes the Bible unique among all other books.

IAmHim1:
■ What you believe is connected to the God of Israel is in one book, edited and compiled for your SIMPLE digestion Same way if I had told you a fish swallowed a man for three full days and kept such said man alive, you'd never believe it... But then again, it's in the Bible so kobojunkie believes it.
■ It was a powerful move by God that resonated within me. Now follow this and tell me if you won't feel amazed: Demons make men build their temples where these so-called men WILL still worship them. God being all wise, make the same demons build HIS OWN CHURCH under the supervision of ONE MAN: SOLOMON I'll end with this. Gravity doesn't care if you believe in it or not kobojunkie. Jump off a Burj and see how that goes

The one I believe in is not paper and ink trapped in the pages of the book but the God who is written about in Scripture. So your analogy there is silly, to say the least.

2. That reads clearly like the brain farts of a lazy mind.

Kobojunkie:
Who is Michael and why did He fight the dragon?

For some, Micheal is Jesus. But for me he's the arch angel.

Hello Sir


You taught that we shouldn't turn the other cheek for situations that will claim our lives. Self defense is permitted in the spiritual laws

But you said Jesus turned the other cheek even knowing fully well he was going to die. Why didn't he defend himself if self defense is permitted?

HelpYourself:
Before time as understood by man can be perceived



Do you know why jesus allowed it? Because he practiced what he preached . He wanted to show mankind that yes if slapped turn the other cheek.

For with one word he could have turned in everyone beating him to dust but no.

He wrote in pain and endured to show us that for this body which is merely a dress you must not do just anything.

Through allowing that beating and murder he showed us that no matter what we must always do the right thing.

The real victory of lucifer was turning a pure holy mission of the son of God to a joke and a claim that he committed suicide for man kind .

But people are starting to wake up around the world.

More and more people are asking questions.

If truly he came to die for us why then did he still pray for our forgiveness.

"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

Yes because they where under the influence of lucifer who still had his spear at this time. They commuted murder. Judas saw this and commuted suicide.

He saw this was not meant to be, the guilt overwhelmed him.

While lucifer's principle of temptation and deceit holds strong, we must endeavor to always strive to be upright and not follow every temptation that comes our way.

He wants you to believe your sins are paid for so you burden yourself with so much guilt that when you leave this world you are definitely going down to dark regions.

Learn to take responsibility for your actions and know that you will redeem everything you do. When you imbibe this you will see your life change totally and you will live a more deliberate and honest life.
Thank you

IAmHim1:
Hello Sir


You taught that we shouldn't turn the other cheek for situations that will claim our lives. Self defense is permitted in the spiritual laws

But you said Jesus turned the other cheek even knowing fully well he was going to die. Why didn't he defend himself if self defense is permitted?

My dear I just replied your email. Let me try to reiterate here.

For you to fully understand what occurred with the murder of Jesus you must first try to understand who he was alright . Devoid of all lies misconceptions and religious bigotry.

First Jesus Christ was the son of the only one true God. Irrespective of what ever name you refer to him as being Allah or God or oluwa of igwe or Jehovah etc

The Almighty and only God's son was jesus.
.now Jesus came down to this world to teach truth , and as is known mankind have always hated truth.

Just see how they attack those speaking up against tithing and religious businesses in both Christianity and islam then you would fully grasp the attacks and sabotage that was dealt to Jesus.

You are active on this platform but even you are no brave enough to boldly go to social media like Instagram and Twitter and Facebook and start speaking up against tithing. You lack the courage and backbone to do so, how then do you feel you judge the son of God who stood boldly enough to speak up against not just tithing but established religion to the faces of the then Jewish leaders of global Christianity?

He came as his nature which is love and love will perpetually always absorb whatever you do and never retaliate.

He had the power to turn the entire world to dust with one word, but love would never do such.

This is why those who lack true love in them are the most unable to grasp the significance of Jesus refusing to retaliate and therefore justify his murder as he came to die for us.

No he didn't , he didn't turn the other cheek because his purity he wanted dti show that no matter what you must always do the right thing , even when harm comes your way. You must stand for truth.

He refused to bow to their threats or beatings or arrests and intimidation. No he stood and told them to their faces you are wicked and what you are practicing is not true Christianity!!! And they saw they couldn't break him through beating and stripping him naked , hence they decided to kill him. .
Yet even when they told him to his face "oga denounce this your teachings o , or we will kill you!! You will be crucified"!!

He looked them boldly in the face and told them, you have no power over me ! All you can kill is this body I will still rise (he meant his spirit not the body) because like I have told you this body is just a dress and when it dies the spirit rises and moves on.

They saw that to leave him alive would see the end and destruction of their established religion business and so they used their connections to have him executed.

He turned the other cheek to show you that it is better to die for truth than to live a coward in acceptance of a lie.
I hope this helps

The whole lucifer story and creation is a blatant lie in the first place and only born of out of religious nonesense...!!

Floky215:
The whole lucifer story and creation is a blatant lie in the first place and only born of out of religious nonesense...!!

You dey mind the people wey dey like spin stories!

1MILLIONLiGHTS:
➜For some, Micheal is Jesus.
➜But for me he's the arch angel.

Did Jesus Christ Himself ever tell you or those some that He is this person called Michael, or does that idea itself not come from a stewpot of religious delusions? Religious folks are ever cooking up illogical conclusions just for the heck of it.🙄🙄

2. Archangel of what exactly? What is an angel and how do you get an archangel from that?

Now I'm understanding


Thank you


It's getting clearer. So the principle created by the fallen one was just to make us aware of the Choice to sin and that's all. The fallen one doesn't have power over us because it's us that use our hands to carry out an act. Not the fallen one.

The choice to sin was presented to us. It wasn't forced on us. We choose to accept or not

So we're responsible for all we do regardless.
This is powerful information



I have some questions

1) But this temptation principle, was it specifically directed towards man or all of God's creation, seen and unseen?

Are animals like goats aware of this temptation principle?
Like a goat sees someone's yam and decides not to be tempted by it?

2) I find it hard to imagine a world without temptation and struggles to overcome

Because, if someone asks to come to earth to learn unconditional love, then I feel one criteria to learn unconditional love would be to be hated by almost all. By one receiving hate, one can learn how to love first without receiving love. That's one definition of unconditional love for me. This is just a crude example I could think of

But if human spirit came to earth to grow and learn, how would it happen if there isn't struggles and temptation. A strong metal was put through fire to be made what it is

What was the 'fire' then. Before the fallen one changed it?
Or Was it something that was changed by the fallen one?


3) why did the fallen One really need the help from his fellow former divine?
He had the spear


In a side note, an epiphany I had was that the story of the fallen one is likened to the misunderstood story of Zeus and the Olympians battling out the Titans.

It was taught that Zeus (angel xyz) fought his powerful Father ( the fallen one) and other mightier titans (fellow former angels from the divine) than himself with the aid of his brother (fellow angels)

It was just the war that happened in heaven, a watered down version?

HelpYourself:
My dear I just replied your email. Let me try to reiterate here.

For you to fully understand what occurred with the murder of Jesus you must first try to understand who he was alright . Devoid of all lies misconceptions and religious bigotry.

First Jesus Christ was the son of the only one true God. Irrespective of what ever name you refer to him as being Allah or God or oluwa of igwe or Jehovah etc

The Almighty and only God's son was jesus.
.now Jesus came down to this world to teach truth , and as is known mankind have always hated truth.

Just see how they attack those speaking up against tithing and religious businesses in both Christianity and islam then you would fully grasp the attacks and sabotage that was dealt to Jesus.

You are active on this platform but even you are no brave enough to boldly go to social media like Instagram and Twitter and Facebook and start speaking up against tithing. You lack the courage and backbone to do so, how then do you feel you judge the son of God who stood boldly enough to speak up against not just tithing but established religion to the faces of the then Jewish leaders of global Christianity?

He came as his nature which is love and love will perpetually always absorb whatever you do and never retaliate.

He had the power to turn the entire world to dust with one word, but love would never do such.

This is why those who lack true love in them are the most unable to grasp the significance of Jesus refusing to retaliate and therefore justify his murder as he came to die for us.

No he didn't , he didn't turn the other cheek because his purity he wanted dti show that no matter what you must always do the right thing , even when harm comes your way. You must stand for truth.

He refused to bow to their threats or beatings or arrests and intimidation. No he stood and told them to their faces you are wicked and what you are practicing is not true Christianity!!! And they saw they couldn't break him through beating and stripping him naked , hence they decided to kill him. .
Yet even when they told him to his face "oga denounce this your teachings o , or we will kill you!! You will be crucified"!!

He looked them boldly in the face and told them, you have no power over me ! All you can kill is this body I will still rise (he meant his spirit not the body) because like I have told you this body is just a dress and when it dies the spirit rises and moves on.

They saw that to leave him alive would see the end and destruction of their established religion business and so they used their connections to have him executed.

He turned the other cheek to show you that it is better to die for truth than to live a coward in acceptance of a lie.
I hope this helps

Hello Sir
This your post reminds me of a specific verse in the Lord's prayer: "and lead us not into temptation..."

Does this mean temptation isn't necessary for our growth as spirits in bodies?

Does this mean we should take ourselves out of temptation, instead of actually facing the temptation and exercising our freewill to not fall?

just like Joseph and portiphar's wife... Joseph didn't preach to the wife of his Master. He didn't wait to see if he could overcome his master's wife seduction. HE ran!

Is this what we should do when we encounter temptation?
Will we still grow as spirits the we were meant to, by only showing love towards ourselves and others, and neglecting Lucifer's temptation?

I'm quite curious Sir. I fed your post into Google's Gemini and asked it specific questions to aid my understanding and it said this.

GEMINI:

Evolution Without Evil: "Expanding the Light"
If Lucifer had never created the "Tempting Principle," we would have evolved through increasing our capacity for beauty and knowledge.

The Scenario: Imagine you are a painter. You aren't "tempted" to smear mud on the canvas. Instead, your evolution is about learning how to use 1,000 colors instead of 10.

The Growth: You grow by going deeper into "The Good." You become more wise, more creative, and more loving. It’s like moving from a candle flame to a bonfire. You aren't fighting darkness; you are just creating more light.

Cc: Helpyourself