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Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by CHAQUR: 8:41pm On Dec 02, 2024
The national wealth parasitic region can't let go of their monthly largees... They are afraid of the new sharing formula.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Speeding1: 8:42pm On Dec 02, 2024
If Tinubu can deliver full regional government, state police and full decentralisation of power to the other tiers of government, he will have my 30% support, anything other than that, forget it
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by bobby007(m): 8:44pm On Dec 02, 2024
This irrelevant group
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by bobby007(m): 8:46pm On Dec 02, 2024
richeeyo:
But why are sum people so stupid saying its a lie,
The igbos have nothing to loose, they have potentials
Most igbo businesses succeeded with tiny to no support,
This benefits the igbos more
but they have to escape to the south west first
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Taich(m): 8:46pm On Dec 02, 2024
Orange shame dey catch me.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Iceberg3: 8:47pm On Dec 02, 2024
Fortruth:
Boost lol

More like a laugh…


Ohaneze lol

Even APC is embarrassed lol
APC will bless you and your generation for life..
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by onuman: 8:49pm On Dec 02, 2024
And what has been stopping these groups from teaming up to restructure the skewed and lopsided political structure that consigned absolute powers to Arewa politicians, but made politicians from NC, Southsouth Southwest and South east mere onlookers at Nigeria's political process?
The fraudulent political structure of 36 states and Abuja was created by Arewa military dictators who created 20 states in one region but allowed only 17 states for the two southern regions.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by aviara: 8:51pm On Dec 02, 2024
The national assembly should be pushing for resource control by states but south west won't push for it because they still want to be feeding fat from Niger delta oil.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by femisplash: 8:51pm On Dec 02, 2024
LegendHero:
Tinubu should give us state police.

That will be very beneficial especially to the Middle belt. It will also benefit SW, SS, SE, and even the core North.

National policing system don fail us. Each state having their police will be better and their orientation and philosophy will be totally different compared to the current one.

Last thing wey go happen, they won't re-elect him. But he will go down as the president that campaigned on restructuring and actually fulfilled most of the item and stayed true to the cause.
Dat state police matter, na constitutional amendment go settle am. Some state Governors haven't submitted their reports yet at NEC meeting. Tinubu has to get their buy-in, otherwise they will kill the bill at state level and he can't muscle his way to create state police through SC like he did with LG autonomy. As for his 2nd term, I don't think Jagaban cares about that, he carry vex enter Aso rock, he wants to enter those tough places past presidents couldn't dare and dismantle them. I pray he succeeds. I also think everywhere will calm down before 2026.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Sleekfingers: 8:53pm On Dec 02, 2024
NaijaGoBetter2:
Tax reform is likely to bring additional challenges. Perhaps I need to learn more about it. How can the North generate revenue when it relies primarily on agricultural produce, which is not subject to VAT? Additionally, the presence of Boko Haram and banditry hinders industrialization in the region....
And whose fault is that ? The North created their problems, they should solve it themselves. And stop dragging Nigeria backward.....
What do they expect when they were spoon-feeding terrorists? Their counterparts in the South are going to school, they chose to carry useless religion for head like sour Kunu......
The tax bill will affect both south and north . But it is a wake up call for all states in Nigeria to sit-up.
Without pain , there no gain .
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Iceberg3: 8:53pm On Dec 02, 2024
LegendHero:
Tinubu should give us state police.

That will be very beneficial especially to the Middle belt. It will also benefit SW, SS, SE, and even the core North.

National policing system don fail us. Each state having their police will be better and their orientation and philosophy will be totally different compared to the current one.

Last thing wey go happen, they won't re-elect him. But he will go down as the president that campaigned on restructuring and actually fulfilled most of the item and stayed true to the cause.
Who is the "they?"

If tinubu continues with his bold step is setting Nigeria on the right paths on her foundations,he wouybe re elected.
It's only the core north who are a adversed to foundational change in Nigeria and they cannot hold others back if the others will be wise,put their grouses aside and unite....but with disunity people like you around and others,that might just be a mirage,pity
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by aviara: 8:54pm On Dec 02, 2024
Tinubu may have his way with the tax reform bill but the north will have it's say come 2027 presidential election
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Meti99(m): 8:55pm On Dec 02, 2024
NaijaGoBetter2:
Tax reform is likely to bring additional challenges. Perhaps I need to learn more about it. How can the North generate revenue when it relies primarily on agricultural produce, which is not subject to VAT? Additionally, the presence of Boko Haram and banditry hinders industrialization in the region....
Boko Haram and Banditry in the north are politically motivated
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Ringstonermasks: 8:55pm On Dec 02, 2024
A faction
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Iceberg3: 8:55pm On Dec 02, 2024
femisplash:
Dat state police matter, na constitutional amendment go settle am. Some state Governors haven't submitted their reports yet at NEC meeting. Tinubu has to get their buy-in, otherwise they will kill the bill at state level and he can't muscle his way to create state police through SC like he did with LG autonomy. As for his 2nd term, I don't think Jagaban cares about that, he carry vex enter Aso rock, he wants to enter those tough places past presidents couldn't dare and dismantle them. I pray he succeeds. I also think everywhere will calm down before 2026.
You are very correct...such bold steps will earn him the support of all progressive Nigerians and he will win come 2027
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by aviara: 8:56pm On Dec 02, 2024
Sleekfingers:
And whose fault is that ? The North created their problems, they should solve it themselves. And stop dragging Nigeria backward.....
What do they expect when they were spoon-feeding terrorists? Their counterparts in the South are going to school, they chose to carry useless religion for head like sour Kunu......
The tax bill will affect both south and north . But it is a wake up call for all states in Nigeria to sit-up.
Without pain , there no gain .
The discussion should be centred around resource control by states because the whole of Nigeria is feeding fat from oil revenue from Niger delta region.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by eteba(m): 8:57pm On Dec 02, 2024
The tax reform bill is a done deal, even if all members say nay, Akpabio will hit the gavel, and say the ayes have it, heavens will not fall.

Ndume and Zulum are mere noise makers.

Nigeria will be great again.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Philipmoon2(m): 8:59pm On Dec 02, 2024
Is ohanaeze a geopolitical zone?
Why not south east!
Propaganda machines on the beat
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by onuman: 9:01pm On Dec 02, 2024
aviara:
The national assembly should be pushing for resource control by states but south west won't push for it because they still want to be feeding fat from Niger delta oil.
If the Soutwest had pushed for resource control, there would have been no need for the present Tax Reform. The southwest wants to have all in one hand.
At Obasanjo government's National Political Reforms Conference, the southwest reps teamed up with the northern reps at the conference to reject the minimal increase in percentage on derivation asked for by the oil producing areas in the southeast and southsouth. The Conference ended at that point.
Tinubu wailed for more than 12 years asking for political restructuring of Nigeria, he became president, all that interests him is how to use Tax Reform to expropriate more public funds to his southwest region, build superhighway on the coast to join his SW to the oil producing areas in the Southsouth.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Teenaira: 9:01pm On Dec 02, 2024
aariwa:
Okechukwu Isiguzoro is not a real ohaneze. Ohaneze means means in Igbo “ group of people/everybody” but his group is a one man show. Okechukwu is one of the founding members of APC in SE and had been desperately seeking federal appointment since time of buhari without success . Real ohaneze doesn’t recognize him because he is like a persona non grata desperately chasing money like reno omokry . Nothing concerns an average Igbo with tinubu’s illegitimate government and that had been the position of Igbos since day one and was made known to Bianca too before her current misadventure
You are OYO 😀😃😄😁😁
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by PressMyButton(op): 9:02pm On Dec 02, 2024
LegendHero:
Tinubu should give us state police.

That will be very beneficial especially to the Middle belt. It will also benefit SW, SS, SE, and even the core North.

National policing system don fail us. Each state having their police will be better and their orientation and philosophy will be totally different compared to the current one.

Last thing wey go happen, they won't re-elect him. But he will go down as the president that campaigned on restructuring and actually fulfilled most of the item and stayed true to the cause.
Bro, i dey fear Jagaban even more. He's on a mission. He fears nobody, nothing!
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Sleekfingers:
aviara:
The discussion should be centred around resource control by states because the whole of Nigeria is feeding fat from oil revenue from Niger delta region.
I think resources control will be look at as well.
No Northern president will ever advocate for resource control......
If the South are serious ,. It is now they should push the resource control bill forward......
The North are pest that need to be fumigated out.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by funshint(m): 9:02pm On Dec 02, 2024
NaijaGoBetter2:
Tax reform is likely to bring additional challenges. Perhaps I need to learn more about it. How can the North generate revenue when it relies primarily on agricultural produce, which is not subject to VAT? Additionally, the presence of Boko Haram and banditry hinders industrialization in the region....
They should keep on embracing their repentant terrorists!
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by casualobserver: 9:04pm On Dec 02, 2024
Macphenson:
One of the most controversial issues in this Tax Reform Bill is that 60% of VAT will be given to the state it was collected from, It seems by this it will only favour mostly Lagos and Rivers State to the detriment of the Northern states who are collecting more VAT based on population.

Here is my concern, Lagos state was deliberately made the commercial headquaters of the Nation to the detriment of other states the more reason it collects more taxes.

Practically, All the cars entering the country pays their tax to only Lagos state. Even the cars to be used in Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Delta and Cross River states. Now this is not fair to these states as they have their own seaports but cars are not entering them, the taxes they are supposed to get as a state goes to Lagos state.

Also, Telecom companies pay their VAT in Lagos because their headquaters are located in Lagos, If this new bill is passed, that is no longer fair to all other states where the Telcom companies operate. Telcom companies should now start paying VAT to each state they operate as you can no longer rob Peter to pay Paul.

Oil companies have their headquaters located in Lagos while they operate in different states especially in the Niger Delta. This will no longer be fair if the bill is passed becaused those states where the oil companies operate will start demanding that the oil companies pay thier VAT in those states they operate.

The truth is this bill if passed, is seriously going to open litany of issues which I dont think at the moment the bill captured or resolved it.
That is a falsehood. Lagos makes the vat it does right now because the head office of moist companies are in Lagos.

Under the changes the vat will be credited to the states where the product was consumed.

An example: all the vat on Dangote cement, MTN, Glo, airtell first bank, Zenith etc is currently attributed to Lagos. If you buy cement to build houses or concrete roads in Ebonyi the vat goes to Lagos. If you make a call or bank in Ebonyi the VAT is attributed to Lagos. Under the new law if passed the vat on the cement, telecom and banking services in Ebonyi will be attributed to Ebonyi state.

So clearly the vat that was going to Lagos will go down, the vat going to Ebonyi will go up. Lagos and Ebonyi will keep 60% of their vat and the rest will be shared amongst all states so each state will actually get more than 60% of its VAT.

This will encourage governors to attract development to their states because they will get more money from VAT from activities in their states.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by kasim155: 9:05pm On Dec 02, 2024
NaijaGoBetter2:
Tax reform is likely to bring additional challenges. Perhaps I need to learn more about it. How can the North generate revenue when it relies primarily on agricultural produce, which is not subject to VAT? Additionally, the presence of Boko Haram and banditry hinders industrialization in the region....
There are so many Natural minerals resources in the North, but most of their government are not tapping into it, they are just waiting for the Federal allocation every month. This is also making many states across the country to be very lazy. Again, the North can not be destroying beer and still expect the money gotten from tax from beer companies to be shared with them. I am not a supporter of this government, but in my own opinion, I believe this will make most states to wake up from their laziness.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by paramakina202: 9:07pm On Dec 02, 2024
LegendHero:
Nope, the actual Ohaneze and Igbo leaders.

Think about it, most Igbo leaders I know have not yet antagonized the bill. Same as SW, SS, & NC.

Infact, Dogara was all out in support of the reform today in that Channels townhall.

The thing here is that, the Northern leaders are also divided in this. Some are pro and some are anti.
The point is that Isiguzoro who issued that statement does not represent authentic Ohanaeze ndi Igbo personally I do not have issue with the proposed tax reform bill.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by LegendHero(m): 9:08pm On Dec 02, 2024
paramakina202:
The point is that Isiguzoro who issued that statement does not represent authentic Ohanaeze ndi Igbo personally I do not have issue with the proposed tax reform bill.
Then Ohaneze should refute the guy statement if he is not the authentic spokesperson for them.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Macphenson: 9:08pm On Dec 02, 2024
casualobserver:
That is a falsehood. Lagos makes the vat it does right now because the head office of moist companies are in Lagos.

Under the changes the vat will be credited to the states where the product was consumed.

An example: all the vat on Dangote cement is currently attributed to Lagos. If you buy cement to build houses or concrete roads in Ebonyi the vat goes to Lagos. Under the new law if passed the vat on the cement sold in Ebonyi will go to Ebonyi state. Same with vat on banking and telecom services in Ebonyi state and any other state.

So clearly the vat that was going to Lagos will go down, the vat going to Ebonyi will go up. Lagos and Ebonyi will keep 60% of their vat and the rest will be shared amongst all states so each state will actually get more than 60% of its VAT.

This will encourage governors to attract development to their states because they will get more money from VAT from activities in their states.
Does Lagos have oil that oil companies are paying taxes in Lagos state?

Just remembered another issue, Niger Delta states will start demanding for 60% of revenue from oil in their states since every state is taking advantage of its revenue.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by UltraSolid: 9:09pm On Dec 02, 2024
aviara:
The national assembly should be pushing for resource control by states but south west won't push for it because they still want to be feeding fat from Niger delta oil.
Let me not curse you to say "God punish you" for your lie which is either deliberate or borne of ignorance.

Shey you can read to note "resource control" mentioned below in 2021 at a time even those who will benefit from it the most (the SS) were hiding in fear of Buhari, while the SE played deaf and dumb, to leave Yoruba leaders alone showing brave and responsible leadership on behalf of the greater good of all.

The day you people will stop "Buhari dead and cloned" type of blatant lies, to give unto Ceasar what belongs to Ceaser, is the day God may decide to uplift you.

Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Magnumproperty: 9:10pm On Dec 02, 2024
LegendHero:
Tinubu should give us state police.

That will be very beneficial especially to the Middle belt. It will also benefit SW, SS, SE, and even the core North.

National policing system don fail us. Each state having their police will be better and their orientation and philosophy will be totally different compared to the current one.

Last thing wey go happen, they won't re-elect him. But he will go down as the president that campaigned on restructuring and actually fulfilled most of the item and stayed true to the cause.
Them no even born their papa well make them no vote Jagaban come 2027. Baba wey don prepare regional system of government to checkmate them. The core North think say Dem wise abi naaa them get Nigeria? Igbo people wey wan dey own their own before; they govern themselves and SS wey wan have control over their oil alone go vote in favour of regional system sharp sharp.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by casualobserver: 9:12pm On Dec 02, 2024
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Macphenson:
[b]Does Lagos have oil that oil companies are paying taxes in Lagos state?


Just remembered another issue, Niger Delta states will start demanding for 60% of revenue from oil in their states since every state is taking advantage of its revenue.
All the more reason why the new law is good and you should be in favour of it.

Currently Lagos “contributes” N270b to vat and receives N40b or about 15%.

The reality is that of that N270b, maybe only N80b is actually from consumption in Lagos.


As for Niger delta. That is where we should end up, but one step at a time. that is where we were before when regions kept 50% of their earnings. The north is richer than the south. They have. More valuable minerals and agriculture potential than the south. If oil revenue is reduced for them to share it will force them to develop their minerals and agric industries.

This vat law will force the north to develop their region, when they do and see the money they are making, they will be the ones to say they don’t want oil money let everybody keep 50% of its income.
Re: Ohanaeze Joins Southwest, South-south, Northcentral In Backing Tinubu Tax Bills by Magnumproperty: 9:13pm On Dec 02, 2024
Macphenson:
Does Lagos have oil that oil companies are paying taxes in Lagos state?

Just remembered another issue, Niger Delta states will start demanding for 60% of revenue from oil in their states since every state is taking advantage of its revenue.
What is it with all these oil companies brouhaha sef? Naaa only oil companies get money niii? You never hear of shipping companies, banking and telecoms, construction companies? Haba
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