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Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by haybhi1(m): 6:47am On Dec 03, 2024
Everybody ghas support am na
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Afronighto: 6:47am On Dec 03, 2024
See them, na only taxe them sabi collect but no sabi governance at all
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by skywalker240(m): 6:59am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
Have you read it? I'm sure no.
But you already took a tribal position
I am still reading it, and the few points have come across seems to be in favour of the mass and small scale business owners

Am from Delta State, so I'll be glad if what is coming from my State VAT, at least a 60% chunk remains in my State instead of 100% going to Abuja and a meagre 30% come back to my State.

Please Sir, I'll urge you to read it wink

Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by kedeojo(m): 7:09am On Dec 03, 2024
eddychukwu:
Dem don settle am.
Nobody settle him, you people are just against Tinubu cos he defeated your brother last year. Everything to igbos after election loss in antagonizing the current government. We south south don't play foolish politics you people play. Only a fool will not support the tax bill. He said when niger delta through Yaradua proposed ten percent to host community with oil, it was same national assembly that reduced it to three percent and heaven didn't fall, so this tax bill will scale through too. If not that Tinubu has not be able to get the economy going but maybe his reform can yield result soonest. I support some of action taken. He is the only southerner president that can put the north were they belong to. You igbos are supporting the north against Tinubu and same you people always condemned the Yorubas of slave to the Northerns. Who is the really slave now, Obi who pride itself as saint was a guest lecturer to Atiku's university he built as a serving vice president. Atiku is one of the people he said he will dismantle the structure of criminality and now he has been hosted by same man. Under pdp, you igbos has been slave to Northerns since 1999 and only tears and sorrow you all got but the Yorubas been politically smart produced two president and a vice president same since 1999. We south south can't play nzogbu nzogbu politics. We play national politics. Don't be surprised we will produce a president again before you people.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by GOVERNORR: 7:11am On Dec 03, 2024
The tax reform is restructuring that the same North kicked against when Buhari was president
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by TOPCRUISE(m):
The North will never support it.
Sharia states don’t tolerate Alcohol yet they get allocation from it. Seems the tax reform bill will prohibit them from getting allocations from alcohol as only states who produces it will get taxed via vat and get federal allocation as a result
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Mccullum: 7:28am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
I'm a southerner and I'm against the bill. Don't make it about south vs north. The big problem with Nigeria is how we quickly tribalise issues without listening to the other side to know if their concerns are genuine or not.
The north have issues with VAT derivation. At least that seems to be the main thing they are fighting against. A lot of southern govs are also against the bill. So we should listen to all sides and be properly informed by asking the right questions instead of taking a position based on geographical location that does not add anything to you or the conversation.
Can you mention Southern governors that are against the bill?

The bill is good for Nigeria. It's not about North and South.

It's a bill of productivity, it's a bill that will enhance creativity for each state on how to utilize their human and natural resources.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by jaxxy(m): 7:30am On Dec 03, 2024
There should be an anticorruption bill to go along with this tax bill. We can't be paying money to government only for it to be looted and mismanaged.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by seunowa(op): 7:32am On Dec 03, 2024
TOPCRUISE:
The North will never support it.
Sharia states don’t tolerate Alcohol yet they get allocation from it. Seems the tax reform bill will prohibit them from getting allocations from alcohol. As only states who who produces it will get taxed via vat and get federal allocation
Not only alcoholic beverages but also lottery and betting shops. They call it haram but allocations from lottery and betting companies are not haram. Their hypocrisy stinks
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Safyqueen: 7:32am On Dec 03, 2024
Fuckyoumod:
Well, I don't know what's on that bill, I don't have access to it. I am not a senator or house of rep member. There is little or nothing I can do to change the dynamics.

But I will support any bill that will stop money from Lagos State,Rivers State or Southern Nigeria to be giving freely to any state in the North while they keep killing businesses with their nonsensical sharia law.

You can't destroy 11 million bottles of hero, star and Gordons and expect to get money from the same Alcoholic beverages you destroy every month.

That's parasitical and economic sabotage! It's time to face the reality of their actions.

They contribute nothing to the growth of Nigeria, but milk everything from Nigeria!

For this reason I support the bill!
VAT WAR: REMOVE THE VAT ON YOUR ALCOHOL AND GET DRUNK TO STUPOR WITH CHEAP ALCOHOL. PERIOD!

By Cham Faliya Sharon

I have a feeling that the word stupid is derived from the word stupor, which literally means being dull to intellect or intelligence, or being numb and dumb and dull to one's self-awareness. But then, we are talking about VAT. Therefore, let's talk about VAT, and then we'll get to numb and dumb and dull and whatever.

The North's chief occupation is agriculture, and governments don't charge VAT on agricultural products so that they can be not too expensive for you. That you have more VAT than the North doesn't make you more productive than them. Actually, there has never ever been any evidence that you are more productive than them in either entrepreneurship or agriculture or in any worthwhile venture. That's why a little strike by onion farmers or sweet pepper farmers or tomato farmers always puts you in a chokehold of hunger and lamentation.

The breweries and soft drink plants, including other factories in your areas, that produce high VAT revenues use these same agricultural materials from the North that have not been VATed. In other words, if VAT were to be charged on them ab initio, the North will record huge VAT revenues solely from agriculture without mentioning other ventures. Therefore, it is absolutely absurd to gloat on purported high VAT revenues without considering all the factors involved in generating the VAT. And if you mock some northern states for receiving VAT earned from breweries while still banning the sales and consumption of alcohol in their states, then from where did you get the corn, sorghum, and sugarcane products you used in brewing it?

If this VAT war is to continue as it were, with excessively garrulous pomposity and arrogance oozing out from those who seemingly know nothing about the basic elements of economics and production but yet derive pleasure in ascribing parasitism to those who truly earn the rights of being labelled as the most productive people in land use and entrepreneurship in Nigeria, then let VAT be charged on all agricultural products, including the corn, sorghum, wheat, barley, and sugarcane that are used as the primary ingredients for brewing alcohol.

Of course, food prices will go up in addition to their current astronomical rise due to the unwholesome embrace of IMF diktats by the IMF surrogates in power, but the accruing VAT earnings will help raise the VAT profile of Northern states that are usually being ridiculed as parasites by beetleheads, and the farmers there in the North will also get huge (deserved) bumps in their financial earnings due to enhanced valuation of the prices of their farm produce, including cattle, sheep, goats, and other livestock.

And if by charging VAT on agricultural products the prices of alcohol brands end up getting affected by becoming expensive, then the people in the states where breweries are located can beg the federal government to remove VAT on alcohol at their own end so that alcohol can become cheap, and so that they can be drinking themselves to stupor with cheap alcohol. In fact, by removing VAT from alcohol it will even help them to stop mocking northern states whom they accuse of "receiving VAT from alcohol" sales while subscribing themselves to religious conservatism. That way, we can all be spared the annual hypocritical noises of mockery from people who are confused about what they own and what they don't own, or what they believe in and what they don't believe in.

When you don't know what you actually own and what you actually believe in, the quest for morality will either elude you or appear elusive to you, and that's the point at which you begin to mock those who are making genuine efforts towards attaining genuine morality because pride in alcohol has made you numb and dumb and dull to the realities of your own backyard.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by gbengene1234(m): 7:41am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
A lot of people are mixing things up by taking production for consumption. VAT is a consumption tax not production. The question of parasites as y'all put it does not arise. VAT is actually a tax for the parasites grin grin
Ordinarily if the computation is done correctly, states with higher population should have more consumption. So that's why I still don't understand why the north is against that aspect of the bill giving their large population at least on paper except they mean their population is audio.
But be that as it may, we need to hear all sides and FIRS or NBS should release the present consumption statistics for VATable goods so we can have a better view of the issues and how to go about them.
Censor na next year.
Tinubu go still open their yanch grin
The era of counting legs in-which the person stands behind curtains is over smiley Thumbprinting machine is available now to resist duplicate data's
Audio Population grin
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 7:42am On Dec 03, 2024
Mccullum:
Can you mention Southern governors that are against the bill?

The bill is good for Nigeria. It's not about North and South.

It's a bill of productivity, it's a bill that will enhance creativity for each state on how to utilize their human and natural resources.
NGF which is a body of all governors is against the bill. Such position can't be taken by only the northern govs
How will the bill enhance creativity for each state?
It's obvious you don't even understand the contentious issues
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Thewrath:
kedeojo:
Nobody settle him, you people are just against Tinubu cos he defeated your brother last year. Everything to igbos after election loss in antagonizing the current government. We south south don't play foolish politics you people play. Only a fool will not support the tax bill. He said when niger delta through Yaradua proposed ten percent to host community with oil, it was same national assembly that reduced it to three percent and heaven didn't fall, so this tax bill will scale through too. If not that Tinubu has not be able to get the economy going but maybe his reform can yield result soonest. I support some of action taken. He is the only southerner president that can put the north were they belong to. You igbos are supporting the north against Tinubu and same you people always condemned the Yorubas of slave to the Northerns. Who is the really slave now, Obi who pride itself as saint was a guest lecturer to Atiku's university he built as a serving vice president. Atiku is one of the people he said he will dismantle the structure of criminality and now he has been hosted by same man. Under pdp, you igbos has been slave to Northerns since 1999 and only tears and sorrow you all got but the Yorubas been politically smart produced two president and a vice president same since 1999. We south south can't play nzogbu nzogbu politics. We play national politics. Don't be surprised we will produce a president again before you people.
Can you just shut up with your ranting about igbos?
Who told you the person you quoted was igbo? On a faceless forum ?
Most you lack critical thinking,the ohanaeze ndigbo has declared support for the tax bill,where did you get information that igbos are against the bill?
You claim to play national politics but was only able to get 3% from the PIB bill..

You or the yorubas are not any smarter when it comes to politics,you are only banking on the brunt of the civil war,which y’ll use to cheat and marginalize the igbos,if not,what is that special thing you are doing that the igbos are not doing?
What do you have that the igbos don’t have?

Has any politician built bridges more than Peter obi in recent times?
has anyone gotten more organic support than Peter obi in recent times?
Every true south southerner knows Peter obi won that last election,unless your definition of national politics is rigging!!

You may claim to be from south south but you have yoruba blood in you, trying to blackmail others into supporting the bill,I have seen your likes a lot !
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Amumaigwe: 7:46am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
I'm a southerner and I'm against the bill. Don't make it about south vs north. The big problem with Nigeria is how we quickly tribalise issues without listening to the other side to know if their concerns are genuine or not.
The north have issues with VAT derivation. At least that seems to be the main thing they are fighting against. A lot of southern govs are also against the bill. So we should listen to all sides and be properly informed by asking the right questions instead of taking a position based on geographical location that does not add anything to you or the conversation.
Can you state the reason(s) why you are against the bill?
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Emzedz: 7:46am On Dec 03, 2024
Support tinbu reforms at ur perils.. he never got it right with subsidy removal n naira devaluation..
2 economic failures n woes at same time..

Kk.. what have u gained from subsidy removal.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Amumaigwe: 7:52am On Dec 03, 2024
kedeojo:
Nobody settle him, you people are just against Tinubu cos he defeated your brother last year. Everything to igbos after election loss in antagonizing the current government. We south south don't play foolish politics you people play. Only a fool will not support the tax bill. He said when niger delta through Yaradua proposed ten percent to host community with oil, it was same national assembly that reduced it to three percent and heaven didn't fall, so this tax bill will scale through too. If not that Tinubu has not be able to get the economy going but maybe his reform can yield result soonest. I support some of action taken. He is the only southerner president that can put the north were they belong to. You igbos are supporting the north against Tinubu and same you people always condemned the Yorubas of slave to the Northerns. Who is the really slave now, Obi who pride itself as saint was a guest lecturer to Atiku's university he built as a serving vice president. Atiku is one of the people he said he will dismantle the structure of criminality and now he has been hosted by same man. Under pdp, you igbos has been slave to Northerns since 1999 and only tears and sorrow you all got but the Yorubas been politically smart produced two president and a vice president same since 1999. We south south can't play nzogbu nzogbu politics. We play national politics. Don't be surprised we will produce a president again before you people.
A Yoruba Muslim is unmistakable on Nairaland. Go look for what to do pls
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by kosiebe(m): 7:53am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
A lot of people are mixing things up by taking production for consumption. VAT is a consumption tax not production. The question of parasites as y'all put it does not arise. VAT is actually a tax for the parasites grin grin
Ordinarily if the computation is done correctly, states with higher population should have more consumption. So that's why I still don't understand why the north is against that aspect of the bill giving their large population at least on paper except they mean their population is audio.
But be that as it may, we need to hear all sides and FIRS or NBS should release the present consumption statistics for VATable goods so we can have a better view of the issues and how to go about them.
That's why u will never understand, because you don't know anything. Idiot confusing yourself there
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by NewsINigeria(m): 7:55am On Dec 03, 2024
The support is mutual when it's beneficial.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by kosiebe(m): 7:55am On Dec 03, 2024
gbengene1234:
Censor na next year.
Tinubu go still open their yanch grin
The era of counting legs in-which the person stands behind curtains is over smiley Thumbprinting machine is available now to resist duplicate data's
Audio Population grin
Abeg leave this guy jare.
He thinks tinubu is joking 😃.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by bitbillionaire: 7:56am On Dec 03, 2024
Safyqueen:
VAT WAR: REMOVE THE VAT ON YOUR ALCOHOL AND GET DRUNK TO STUPOR WITH CHEAP ALCOHOL. PERIOD!

By Cham Faliya Sharon

I have a feeling that the word stupid is derived from the word stupor, which literally means being dull to intellect or intelligence, or being numb and dumb and dull to one's self-awareness. But then, we are talking about VAT. Therefore, let's talk about VAT, and then we'll get to numb and dumb and dull and whatever.

The North's chief occupation is agriculture, and governments don't charge VAT on agricultural products so that they can be not too expensive for you. That you have more VAT than the North doesn't make you more productive than them. Actually, there has never ever been any evidence that you are more productive than them in either entrepreneurship or agriculture or in any worthwhile venture. That's why a little strike by onion farmers or sweet pepper farmers or tomato farmers always puts you in a chokehold of hunger and lamentation.

The breweries and soft drink plants, including other factories in your areas, that produce high VAT revenues use these same agricultural materials from the North that have not been VATed. In other words, if VAT were to be charged on them ab initio, the North will record huge VAT revenues solely from agriculture without mentioning other ventures. Therefore, it is absolutely absurd to gloat on purported high VAT revenues without considering all the factors involved in generating the VAT. And if you mock some northern states for receiving VAT earned from breweries while still banning the sales and consumption of alcohol in their states, then from where did you get the corn, sorghum, and sugarcane products you used in brewing it?

If this VAT war is to continue as it were, with excessively garrulous pomposity and arrogance oozing out from those who seemingly know nothing about the basic elements of economics and production but yet derive pleasure in ascribing parasitism to those who truly earn the rights of being labelled as the most productive people in land use and entrepreneurship in Nigeria, then let VAT be charged on all agricultural products, including the corn, sorghum, wheat, barley, and sugarcane that are used as the primary ingredients for brewing alcohol.

Of course, food prices will go up in addition to their current astronomical rise due to the unwholesome embrace of IMF diktats by the IMF surrogates in power, but the accruing VAT earnings will help raise the VAT profile of Northern states that are usually being ridiculed as parasites by beetleheads, and the farmers there in the North will also get huge (deserved) bumps in their financial earnings due to enhanced valuation of the prices of their farm produce, including cattle, sheep, goats, and other livestock.

And if by charging VAT on agricultural products the prices of alcohol brands end up getting affected by becoming expensive, then the people in the states where breweries are located can beg the federal government to remove VAT on alcohol at their own end so that alcohol can become cheap, and so that they can be drinking themselves to stupor with cheap alcohol. In fact, by removing VAT from alcohol it will even help them to stop mocking northern states whom they accuse of "receiving VAT from alcohol" sales while subscribing themselves to religious conservatism. That way, we can all be spared the annual hypocritical noises of mockery from people who are confused about what they own and what they don't own, or what they believe in and what they don't believe in.

When you don't know what you actually own and what you actually believe in, the quest for morality will either elude you or appear elusive to you, and that's the point at which you begin to mock those who are making genuine efforts towards attaining genuine morality because pride in alcohol has made you numb and dumb and dull to the realities of your own backyard.
Very objective writeup there. I must admit.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 8:08am On Dec 03, 2024
gbengene1234:
Censor na next year.
Tinubu go still open their yanch grin
The era of counting legs in-which the person stands behind curtains is over smiley Thumbprinting machine is available now to resist duplicate data's
Audio Population grin
Well, even Tinubu depended on the audio population to enter govt. He won in only 12 states, mostly rural while Obi won in 13 and Atiku 12 as well. So if not for the audio population, he probably will not be on that seat now.
But we'll see sha
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 8:11am On Dec 03, 2024
Amumaigwe:
Can you state the reason(s) why you are against the bill?
We do not need increased taxation now. We need tax reliefs as the economy is slowing down obviously. Also household income is already struggling with disposables taking over 60% of income so this is the time for tax cuts not more streamlining. What most don't realise is that this bill will make Federal government which has been mostly inefficient at income tax computation and collection to become more stringent with it and the effect will be seen on the streets. Most states that have been tax lax will take a cue and start enacting stringent tax laws which will further exacerbate the situation. Most do not understand that these bills are only for federal only. Imagine having to pay federal, state and LG taxes in this dwindling economy.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 8:12am On Dec 03, 2024
kosiebe:
That's why u will never understand, because you don't know anything. Idiot confusing yourself there
All you needed to do was rebut anything you think I wrote that's wrong. But maybe you're empty so you have to resort to insults
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by AwkaFinest: 8:25am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
I'm a southerner and I'm against the bill. Don't make it about south vs north. The big problem with Nigeria is how we quickly tribalise issues without listening to the other side to know if their concerns are genuine or not.
The north have issues with VAT derivation. At least that seems to be the main thing they are fighting against. A lot of southern govs are also against the bill. So we should listen to all sides and be properly informed by asking the right questions instead of taking a position based on geographical location that does not add anything to you or the conversation.
Only some South Easterners are against the bill. The majority of those in the SS and SW are for the bill.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by bitbillionaire: 8:26am On Dec 03, 2024
seunowa:
Yes, this is one of the anomalies in present tax system which the tax reform bills will correct. Every money from oil and gas will no longer go to the headquarters which are mostly sited in Lagos state but this money will be directed to the site of production mostly river, bayelsa, akwa-ibom, delta and other sites of oil and gas production.
Hmmm! Talking about oil and gas, (correct me if I am wrong) consumers of oil and gas and other related products are those in highly populated industrial/commercial affluent cities of the country, not necessarily the host community or states where the oil and gas is gotten from (unless they have high population and industries).

I think it is a big mistake for Niger Delta people to allow anti-north sentiment make them over-rejoice and support the proposed VAT law blindly.

In the whole south and by extension the whole Nigeria it is Lagos that will benefit massively from the proposed VAT law then followed by Rivers State and Abuja.

Majority of other states will suffer for it. It's not only northern states that will be affected. But states in SW, SE and SS will be affected. Na only Lagos the bill go favour massively for obvious reasons oooo.

Let's think twice and think deeply about this matter before joining the bandwagon of those supporting it.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Amumaigwe: 8:30am On Dec 03, 2024
Safyqueen:
VAT WAR: REMOVE THE VAT ON YOUR ALCOHOL AND GET DRUNK TO STUPOR WITH CHEAP ALCOHOL. PERIOD!

By Cham Faliya Sharon

I have a feeling that the word stupid is derived from the word stupor, which literally means being dull to intellect or intelligence, or being numb and dumb and dull to one's self-awareness. But then, we are talking about VAT. Therefore, let's talk about VAT, and then we'll get to numb and dumb and dull and whatever.

The North's chief occupation is agriculture, and governments don't charge VAT on agricultural products so that they can be not too expensive for you. That you have more VAT than the North doesn't make you more productive than them. Actually, there has never ever been any evidence that you are more productive than them in either entrepreneurship or agriculture or in any worthwhile venture. That's why a little strike by onion farmers or sweet pepper farmers or tomato farmers always puts you in a chokehold of hunger and lamentation.

The breweries and soft drink plants, including other factories in your areas, that produce high VAT revenues use these same agricultural materials from the North that have not been VATed. In other words, if VAT were to be charged on them ab initio, the North will record huge VAT revenues solely from agriculture without mentioning other ventures. Therefore, it is absolutely absurd to gloat on purported high VAT revenues without considering all the factors involved in generating the VAT. And if you mock some northern states for receiving VAT earned from breweries while still banning the sales and consumption of alcohol in their states, then from where did you get the corn, sorghum, and sugarcane products you used in brewing it?

If this VAT war is to continue as it were, with excessively garrulous pomposity and arrogance oozing out from those who seemingly know nothing about the basic elements of economics and production but yet derive pleasure in ascribing parasitism to those who truly earn the rights of being labelled as the most productive people in land use and entrepreneurship in Nigeria, then let VAT be charged on all agricultural products, including the corn, sorghum, wheat, barley, and sugarcane that are used as the primary ingredients for brewing alcohol.

Of course, food prices will go up in addition to their current astronomical rise due to the unwholesome embrace of IMF diktats by the IMF surrogates in power, but the accruing VAT earnings will help raise the VAT profile of Northern states that are usually being ridiculed as parasites by beetleheads, and the farmers there in the North will also get huge (deserved) bumps in their financial earnings due to enhanced valuation of the prices of their farm produce, including cattle, sheep, goats, and other livestock.

And if by charging VAT on agricultural products the prices of alcohol brands end up getting affected by becoming expensive, then the people in the states where breweries are located can beg the federal government to remove VAT on alcohol at their own end so that alcohol can become cheap, and so that they can be drinking themselves to stupor with cheap alcohol. In fact, by removing VAT from alcohol it will even help them to stop mocking northern states whom they accuse of "receiving VAT from alcohol" sales while subscribing themselves to religious conservatism. That way, we can all be spared the annual hypocritical noises of mockery from people who are confused about what they own and what they don't own, or what they believe in and what they don't believe in.

When you don't know what you actually own and what you actually believe in, the quest for morality will either elude you or appear elusive to you, and that's the point at which you begin to mock those who are making genuine efforts towards attaining genuine morality because pride in alcohol has made you numb and dumb and dull to the realities of your own backyard.
The above submission is a no-brainer. You claim that the North is a productive geopolitical zone, yet they resists every attempt made at restructuring using their overbloated and disproportionate representation in the NA which they justify using their large unproductive population.

Why then would a region with a population size that determines who wins election in Nigeria be depending on a less populated South for VAT revenue that is generated from a consuming population? That should be the conversation and not threat of withholding their farm produce that they readily offload on the south at premium prices. It is equivalent to a country like China threatening to stop exports to important markets like US or India as a means of pressing home their importance. Can they consume all their finished goods? It is the buyer, not the seller, that holds all the aces
in commerce.
Rather than throwing tantrums like an infant that was just weaned off the mother's breasttmilk , the North should put their population to work.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by AwkaFinest: 8:31am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
How does Dickson know the bill will favour Bayelsa? What is the consumption of Bayelsa like? Does he have the numbers? Bayelsa is the least populated state in Nigeria so he has to be sure what he's supporting is really in his state's interest. That's why I don't understand why the north are against the bill especially VAT derivation. I suspect they believe they are walking into a trap because of the lack of transparency in the derivation model. The present model favours states like Lagos. If the proposed model will run on consumption, it should favour Lagos and other highly populated northern states more since ordinarily, population should fuel consumption. So I still think what they want to see is the present consumption figures as tabulated by FIRS. I think that's what even Dickson should request for except if he already has the figures and it favours his state.
Bayelsa with the least population generated more VAT than over 30 other states. Only Lagos: N249.77bn.
Rivers: N70.54bn.
Oyo: N20.11bn.
FCT: N18.17bn. and
Delta: N13.09bn generate more VAT than Bayelsa. This tells you that Bayelsa has been milked for too long.


To answer your question is, if the bill is passed it will favour Bayelsa as things stands today.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 8:49am On Dec 03, 2024
AwkaFinest:
Bayelsa with the least population generated more VAT than over 30 other states. Only Lagos: N249.77bn.
Rivers: N70.54bn.
Oyo: N20.11bn.
FCT: N18.17bn. and
Delta: N13.09bn generate more VAT than Bayelsa. This tells you that Bayelsa has been milked for too long.


To answer your question is, if the bill is passed it will favour Bayelsa as things stands today.
So how much was allocated to Bayelsa. It's not only about generation but also allocation. Bayelsa from 2021 data I see online got more than it generated.

Meanwhile, like I said, if Bayelsa with the least population is generating more VAT than a state like Kano or Kaduna, that shows that something is wrong with either the collection or the computation of VAT
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by thriz: 9:03am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
A lot of people are mixing things up by taking production for consumption. VAT is a consumption tax not production. The question of parasites as y'all put it does not arise. VAT is actually a tax for the parasites grin grin
Ordinarily if the computation is done correctly, states with higher population should have more consumption. So that's why I still don't understand why the north is against that aspect of the bill giving their large population at least on paper except they mean their population is audio.
But be that as it may, we need to hear all sides and FIRS or NBS should release the present consumption statistics for VATable goods so we can have a better view of the issues and how to go about them.
Have you asked yourself, do you consume what is not produced? Most of those states in the north destroy breweries and collect from the proceeds of the ones in the south. Those years in Kano, there was northern breweries a big industry, where is it today. The north should stop being lazy
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Kukutente23: 9:09am On Dec 03, 2024
thriz:
Have you asked yourself, do you consume what is not produced? Most of those states in the north destroy breweries and collect from the proceeds of the ones in the south. Those years in Kano, there was northern breweries a big industry, where is it today. The north should stop being lazy
You can consume what you do not produce. Nigeria does that a lot which is why we are described as an import dependent economy. You guys hang so much on alcohol. Of course destroying it is bad and the proceeds should not be shared with those who do not consume it. But I bet northerners also have their own consumption patterns that is different from the South. Consumption is a function of spending power and then numbers. The south have spending power obviously but according to the statistics not the number. So there is still a disconnect somewhere in the VAT proceeds.
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Paraman: 9:35am On Dec 03, 2024
yoruboid:
Who are the Nigerians not supporting it?

The same Nigerians that will benefit from zero VAT on essential items and 90% of whom will benefit from zero tax on their salaries?

Are you normal?
Biodun556 is only calling out the hypocrite called Zulum
Re: Seriake Dickson Supports Tinubu's Tax Reform Bills by Mccullum: 9:38am On Dec 03, 2024
Kukutente23:
NGF which is a body of all governors is against the bill. Such position can't be taken by only the northern govs
How will the bill enhance creativity for each state?
It's obvious you don't even understand the contentious issues
Can you give prove on the governors forum's official response statement on the bill.

Tell me contentious you understand on it, I'll explain how I mean how it enhance creative governance to you.
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