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sonmvayina:
I have read everything that is how I know it is bull crap. Created just to deceive little minds like you...and those who cant understand and comprehend..

Jesus is fiction....that's the truth.

God already the Jews the requirement for a proper sacrifice none of which involves human life or Romans...
Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...it is a demonic practice...
It does not have the approval of God on it...

If you have any knowledge of history and not an empty daft idiot, you won't say Jesus is fictional. Many historians from First and second centuries wrote about him.

Saying Jesus is fictional is like saying Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate and Tiberius Cesar are fictional and saying that will expose you as being stupid, an ignorant idiot desperate to push a deceptive agenda through ignoble lies.

Since you seem to believe in God and his ordinances to the Jews, it means you believe in the old testament.

Can you tell me who Psalm 22:16-18 is referring to?, same with Micah 5:2, Isaiah 7:14,Isaiah 40:3-5.?

If you can't provide answers to the Verses above, then you are Just Lying that you read the bible.

I would rather serve Jesus, who laid down his life for me than serve ògún and sacrifice blood every year.

olabrad:
If you have any knowledge of history and not an empty daft idiot, you won't say Jesus is fictional. Many historians from First and second centuries wrote about him.

Saying Jesus is fictional is like saying Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate and Tiberius Cesar are fictional and saying that will expose you as being stupid, an ignorant idiot desperate to push a deceptive agenda through ignoble lies.

Since you seem to believe in God and his ordinances to the Jews, it means you believe in the old testament.

Can you tell me who Psalm 22:16-18 is referring to?, same with Micah 5:2, Isaiah 7:14,Isaiah 40:3-5.?

If you can't provide answers to the Verses above, then you are Just Lying that you read the bible.

I would rather serve Jesus, who laid down his life for me than serve ògún and sacrifice blood every year.

Please don't waste your time on people like that, they love living in ignorance to the truth.

olabrad:
If you have any knowledge of history and not an empty daft idiot, you won't say Jesus is fictional. Many historians from First and second centuries wrote about him.

Saying Jesus is fictional is like saying Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate and Tiberius Cesar are fictional and saying that will expose you as being stupid, an ignorant idiot desperate to push a deceptive agenda through ignoble lies.

Since you seem to believe in God and his ordinances to the Jews, it means you believe in the old testament.

Can you tell me who Psalm 22:16-18 is referring to?, same with Micah 5:2, Isaiah 7:14,Isaiah 40:3-5.?

If you can't provide answers to the Verses above, then you are Just Lying that you read the bible.

I would rather serve Jesus, who laid down his life for me than serve ògún and sacrifice blood every year.

I will take the verses one by one and explain them to you...I know you want to drink from the well of my knowledge. Since you are new..
1.psalm 22:16-18
Psalm 22 was written by David and given to the conductor or choir master to be sung during worship.
This Psalm was written when Saul was chasing David and wanted to kill him. It was a Psalm written because he thought God has deserted him and Saul and his soldiers were approaching., verses 16-18 describes his fear when he was hiding and sauls men where too close to him.
There is no Jesus there.
2.Micah 5:2:reading from verse 1, you can see it is talking about a ruler, that is king that will rule over Israel,. That clearly is not Jesus since he never sat on the throne of David, he was never anointed with the oil of chrism that is kept inside the ark of covenant. The said king will come at the end of days. Talking about the real Messiah that God will raise. Not a half God /half man...that too is a miss quote.
3.isaiah 7:14 is talking about a young woman being pregnant and about to give birth. The woman will give birth to a son whom the mother will call Immanuel . The boy is supposed to be a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will withstand the threat of the northern 10 tribes and Syria. They had formed an alliance and wanted to go to the south and install a king that would be their ally too. King Ahaz was scared and God sent Isaiah to him with the sign to assure him that whatever they are planning will not happen, FYI Immanuel is isaiah's second son. The young woman is the prophetess his wife or concubine or girl friend....so another miss.
4. Isaiah 40:3-5. Isaiah 40 is one of the suffering servant songs, the other being Isaiah 53. It is talking about the redemption of the Jewish people, and how God has seen their suffering. There is no Jesus there too...read the whole chapter and see for your self. If you continue to remove the text from its context, you will miss the bigger picture..that is what you have done...read from beginning to end of all the chapters you presented, you will not see Jesus in any of them....

Learn, unlearn and relearn...

sonmvayina:
I will take the verses one by one and explain them to you...I know you want to drink from the well of my knowledge. Since you are new..
1.psalm 22:16-18
Psalm 22 was written by David and given to the conductor or choir master to be sung during worship.
This Psalm was written when Saul was chasing David and wanted to kill him. It was a Psalm written because he thought God has deserted him and Saul and his soldiers were approaching., verses 16-18 describes his fear when he was hiding and sauls men where too close to him.
There is no Jesus there.

See the way you are deceiving yourself. Did Saul have a history of piercing People's hands and feet? No.

The first set of people who kill offenders in that manner are the Assyrians , Babylonians and Romans and they were not in the picture as at that time. The earliest use of crucifixion mentioned in that verse occured in 6th century, long after David had died. That verse wasn't about what Saul would do to David. It was a prophecy about Jesus Christ. Quit lying!

2.Micah 5:2:reading from verse 1, you can see it is talking about a ruler, that is king that will rule over Israel,. That clearly is not Jesus since he never sat on the throne of David, he was never anointed with the oil of chrism that is kept inside the ark of covenant. The said king will come at the end of days. Talking about the real Messiah that God will raise. Not a half God /half man...that too is a miss quote.

You lied!

I challenge you to mention that ruler that came out of Bethlehem, according to Micah 5:2!
Read Isaiah 9:6-7 and tell me the ruler that verse is referring to.

Don't also forget to show me from History the king/ruler mentioned in Isaiah 11:1-5.

3.isaiah 7:14 is talking about a young woman being pregnant and about to give birth. The woman will give birth to a son whom the mother will call Immanuel . The boy is supposed to be a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will withstand the threat of the northern 10 tribes and Syria. They had formed an alliance and wanted to go to the south and install a king that would be their ally too. King Ahaz was scared and God sent Isaiah to him with the sign to assure him that whatever they are planning will not happen, FYI Immanuel is isaiah's second son. The young woman is the prophetess his wife or concubine or girl friend....so another miss.

You lied again!

I challenge you to show me evidence that Isaiah's second son was named Immanuel.

Isaiah 7:14 said the son will be named Immanuel, but the name given to the son born by Isaiah's wife/prophetess in the next chapter (Isaiah 8:3-4) was Mahershalalhashbaz, not Immanuel!

Do you know the meaning of Mahershalalhashbaz? It means "Quickly to the plunder"! It is God's way of telling King Ahaz that Assyria would plunder Israel and Damascus because of their disobedience. So, your narrative above is FALSE!

The name is not even related to Immanuel in any way. Why are you lying so boldly?! Why do you hasten to deceive people?!

4. Isaiah 40:3-5. Isaiah 40 is one of the suffering servant songs, the other being Isaiah 53. It is talking about the redemption of the Jewish people, and how God has seen their suffering. There is no Jesus there too...read the whole chapter and see for your self. If you continue to remove the text from its context, you will miss the bigger picture..that is what you have done...read from beginning to end of all the chapters you presented, you will not see Jesus in any of them....

Learn, unlearn and relearn...

If you claim the person being referred to in Isaiah 53 was Isaiah himself, I challenge you to show me where Isaiah got wounded and people got healed by his wounds and where his punishment brought peace to people, according to verse 5. Show me where Isaiah was assigned a grave with the wicked and rich, according to verse 9.

Stop deceiving people.

Jesus is REAL and Jesus is God! (Isaiah 9:6-7)

olabrad:
See the way you are deceiving yourself. Did Saul have a history of piercing People's hands and feet? No.

The first set of people who kill offenders in that manner are the Assyrians , Babylonians and Romans and they were not in the picture as at that time. The earliest use of crucifixion mentioned in that verse occured in 6th century, long after David had died. That verse wasn't about what Saul would do to David. It was a prophecy about Jesus Christ. Quit lying!




You lied!

I challenge you to mention that ruler that came out of Bethlehem, according to Micah 5:2!
Read Isaiah 9:6-7 and tell me the ruler that verse is referring to.

Don't also forget to show me from History the king/ruler mentioned in Isaiah 11:1-5.



You lied again!

I challenge you to show me evidence that Isaiah's second son was named Immanuel.

Isaiah 7:14 said the son will be named Immanuel, but the name given to the son born by Isaiah's wife/prophetess in the next chapter (Isaiah 8:3-4) was Mahershalalhashbaz, not Immanuel!

Do you know the meaning of Mahershalalhashbaz? It means "Quickly to the plunder"! It is God's way of telling King Ahaz that Assyria would plunder Israel and Damascus because of their disobedience. So, your narrative above is FALSE!

The name is not even related to Immanuel in any way. Why are you lying so boldly?! Why do you hasten to deceive people?!



If you claim the person being referred to in Isaiah 53 was Isaiah himself, I challenge you to show me where Isaiah got wounded and people got healed by his wounds and where his punishment brought peace to people, according to verse 5. Show me where Isaiah was assigned a grave with the wicked and rich, according to verse 9.

Stop deceiving people.

Jesus is REAL and Jesus is God! (Isaiah 9:6-7)

Isaiah 9:6-7 is about future king Hezekiah. Not Jesus. The person being talked about has already been born...
A son has already been given....
I am not joking issues with you...if you like don't relearn. Then you will just swallow in your ignorance..
Isaiah 53 speaks of a suffering servant. Isaiah already told you that the servant is Israel. There is no death and resurrection in the chapter. The person in question will see his offspring and God will prolong his days and God's plan will flourish in his hands...
No death or resurrection....it is a song..

olabrad:
See the way you are deceiving yourself. Did Saul have a history of piercing People's hands and feet? No

You lied!

I challenge you to mention that ruler that came out of Bethlehem, according to Micah 5:2!
Read Isaiah 9:6-7 and tell me the ruler that verse is referring to.

Don't also forget to show me from History the king/ruler mentioned in Isaiah 11:1-5.

You lied again!

I challenge you to show me evidence that Isaiah's second son was named Immanuel.!.

You obviously have not real eyesed that you are arguing with a mad drug addict.

sonmvayina:
Devil is just the moon
Satan is just the air...

They are Orishas.....they are not Gods.

They just represent some aspect of nature...

sonmvayina:
Isaiah 9:6-7 is about future king Hezekiah. Not Jesus. The person being talked about has already been born...
A son has already been given....
I am not joking issues with you...if you like don't relearn. Then you will just swallow in your ignorance..

So, Hezekiah is the one called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" in that verse?

I challenge you to show me where Hezekiah was ever called prince of peace, everlasting father and mighty God in the Bible or anywhere else.

Is there is a curse of deception on your soul? You see obvious fact and you are still lying!!!

Isaiah 53 speaks of a suffering servant. Isaiah already told you that the servant is Israel. There is no death and resurrection in the chapter. The person in question will see his offspring and God will prolong his days and God's plan will flourish in his hands...
No death or resurrection....it is a song..

I challenge you to show me where Isaiah say Isaiah 53 is referring to Israel.

"Verse 8 says he was cut away from the land of the living" and you dare say there is no mention of death in the passage. Is this how you go about deceiving people like a satanic element with dead conscience?

Maybe we should place the transgressions of the whole world on your head and cut you from the land of the living; then lets see whether you will still be alive.

You are a shameless liar with dead conscience.
You are a true son of your father the devil!!!

Your obviously deceptive comments have further convinced me that Jesus is real and Jesus is God! (Isaiah 9:6-7).

olabrad:
So, Hezekiah is the one called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" in that verse?.

i told you he is Maaaad, didn't I?
In his madness he madly stalks me and attacks whenever he escapes the psychiatric ward

Dtruthspeaker:
You obviously have not real eyesed that you are arguing with a mad drug addict.

I suspect he is truly a drug addict

Gm..

olabrad:
So, Hezekiah is the one called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" in that verse?

I challenge you to show me where Hezekiah was ever called prince of peace, everlasting father and mighty God in the Bible or anywhere else.

Is there is a curse of deception on your soul? You see obvious fact and you are still lying!!!



I challenge you to show me where Isaiah say Isaiah 53 is referring to Israel. Maybe we should place the transgressions of the whole world on your head and lets see whether you will still be alive.

You are a shameless liar with dead conscience.
You are a true son of your father the devil!!!

Your obviously deceptive comments have further convinced me that Jesus is real and Jesus is God! (Isaiah 9:6-7).

Stop taking text out of context...and read the whole chapter...
Or are you a baby..

Read everything so it can make sense to you... Stop taking one verse and running away with it...

olabrad:
So, Hezekiah is the one called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" in that verse?

I challenge you to show me where Hezekiah was ever called prince of peace, everlasting father and mighty God in the Bible or anywhere else.

Is there is a curse of deception on your soul? You see obvious fact and you are still lying!!!

That is not what Isaiah wrote. Read a better translation. The real message will become clearer.
This is what Isaiah wrote:
6. For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."
It is God who called him the prince of peace..

I challenge you to show me where Isaiah say Isaiah 53 is referring to Israel.

"Verse 8 says he was cut away from the land of the living" and you dare say there is no mention of death in the passage. Is this how you go about deceiving people like a satanic element with dead conscience?

Maybe we should place the transgressions of the whole world on your head and cut you from the land of the living; then lets see whether you will still be alive.

You are a shameless liar with dead conscience.
You are a true son of your father the devil!!!

Your obviously deceptive comments have further convinced me that Jesus is real and Jesus is God! (Isaiah 9:6-7).

Stop removing text from the chapter..
Read the whole chapter. It is a continuous narrative.you can't pick out some text out. Isaiah already told you in chapter 45:1-7 that the servant is Israel/Jacob. No context here.

sonmvayina:
That is not what Isaiah wrote. Read a better translation. The real message will become clearer.
This is what Isaiah wrote:
6. For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."
It is God who called him the prince of peace..

In your attempt to lie, you make a fool of yourself. SO, God called himself "prince of peace"?! Do you even know the meaning of Prince? If God is the one calling himself a prince, which you know is a lie, it means there is a God above Him to whom he is a prince.

That verse says that a son was Born unto us and his name is Mighty God and Prince of Peace.

I suggest you stop replying. Each of ur replies exposes you to be an intentionally deceptive and highly gullible fellon!

Stop removing text from the chapter..
Read the whole chapter. It is a continuous narrative.you can't pick out some text out. Isaiah already told you in chapter 45:1-7 that the servant is Israel/Jacob. No context here.

Show me the name of the servant called Emmanuel that took the transgression of the world upon himself according to that passage.

I have never seen someone as intentionally deceptive as you in my life.

sonmvayina:
Stop taking text out of context...and read the whole chapter...
Or are you a baby..

Read everything so it can make sense to you... Stop taking one verse and running away with it...

You are the senseless baby here. The fact that you said God called himself prince of prince has exposed you to be a cursed person with dead morals.

happy weekend .

Corrections:
It is often said among Christians “ that they should love their enemies and pray for them”. Many Christians do make this statement without caring to know what it actually means. Many Christians believe this statement is a call to “stupidity” or “foolishness”.

Matthew 5:54

But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.


Now, before we go further, we need to understand what "LOVE" means, then also why do we love.

Using God's standard definition for the word "love". It simply can be summarized as "ensuring that people do the right things at all time". It means correcting people who are not doing the right thing to do the right thing.

Prob 3:12
12. because the Lord disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in.

Hebrew 12:5-6

5 And have you forgotten the encouraging words (corrective words) God spoke to you as his children? He said, “My child, don't make light of the LORD 's discipline, and don't give up when he corrects you. 6 For the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child.”

These verses point out that discipline is an evidence of the Lord's love. If He did not love us, He would not discipline us.

Now, correction or discipline is usually a though hurtful experience. Even in our society, the freedom of criminals are usually denied of them by putting them in a confined space called "prison" or "correction centre".

As a parent, when you fail to correct your children when they do wrong things, you actually "hate" and not "love" them. Even in marriage, love is far beyond SEX or KISSING. Sex or kissing does not entirely keep a marriage, but doing the right things (correct things which is the real love) COMPLETELY secures it.

Haven used God's standard of definition of what love is as pointed out in the scriptures,what then does it mean to love your enemy? Does it mean we should allow criminals have a filled day harming us without any resistance from us (Christians) NO! Why didn't Jesus show his love to criminals by allowing criminals to kill him when his time to die (as planned by heaven) as not come?

Jesus understands the true meaning of love so he wouldn't confuse stupidity with love. Jesus wouldn’t allow anyone to physically abuse him. Who dares that? Christians need to know this truth that executing justice and loving your enemies are not mutually exclusive.

1 Corinthians 13:6-7

6 It (talking about love) does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

We can see here, that justice is a form of correctional medium through which people can be corrected to do the right thing. Therefore, “loving your enemies” as a Christian is not a call to stupidity or foolishness, it is a call to correcting them so that they can depart from their evil ways.

It means love them in spite of what they do to you. And that involves:

1. Praying for them that they might be saved.
2. Do good to them when you have the opportunity.
3. Repay them good for the evil they do to you.
4. Asking God to have mercy on them.

Happy Sunday…

Morning….

Morning…

Good morning

olabrad:
You are the senseless baby here. The fact that you said God called himself prince of prince has exposed you to be a cursed person with dead morals.

And in the spirit of somvayina, he runs away😁.
The thread got too hot for him.
All his lies exposed along with all his logical blunders!

A job well done guys

Happy weekend

THERE'S GOD OOO.
SO DON'T BE AN ATHEIST.

orisa37:
THERE'S GOD OOO.
SO DON'T BE AN ATHEIST.

WE ARE ALL AIs IN THE HANDS OF GOD AND THAT'S WHY WE INTERACT SO FREELY IN HIS SIGHT.
HIS TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE SUFFICIENT BUTTONS THAT HE ALLOWS CHRIST AND SATAN TO PRESS TO MONITOR US.

YOU WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN? LOVE YOURSELVES AS YOURSELVES.. THE DIRECTIVES TO DO HIS WILL ON EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN. IF AI IS NOT IN THE WILL OF GOD, THE SO CALLED "JIBITY4' OR IS IT 'SIGIDI4" WILL CRASH SOON.

Happy Sunday

Good morning

Afternoon…

Good morning

Everybody is an image of God including the so called enemy. When Jesus said to Peter get behind me satan he was not talking to Peter because he knew it was not him that made the statement but the devil was speaking through him at that point in time. That person we call our enemy is not our enemy, he's an image of God it's the devil that is using them to our detriment we should face.

Good morning ..

Happy weekend…