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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker:
Michael547:
So you mean that seyi and his father existed the same time? Are they of the same age?
Now you show your stupidity. Firstly, off point.

Secondly, No where did i say so neither did the bible Say so. Even common sense should have told you that they do not for that is what Father and Son means as seyi and his father has, and even you and your father show. But i guess your stupidity has started so carry your madness and stupidity away from me.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:50pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Now you show your stupidity. Firstly, off point.

Secondly, No where did i say so neitherof did the bible Say so. Even common sense should have told you that they do not for that is what Father and Son means as seyi and his father has, and even you and your father show. But i guess your stupidity has started carry so your madness and stupidity away from me.
So do you agree that the father existed before the son came into existence?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 6:50pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
If the God in Hebrews 1:8 refers to Jesus the son of God, who is the God that is anointing in Hebrews 1:9, and who is this person that is being anointed?
This Psalm was written by David and given to the choir master or conductor to sing during services..
So the true rendering of the Psalm is
The Lord(The most high) said to my master(David).......l
The other part of the Psalm confirms it is talking about David....not some imaginary person...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:13pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
So do you agree that the father existed before the son came into existence?
That is what Father and begotten from the Father means!
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 7:15pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
That is what Father and begotten from the Father means!
So if the father came into existence first, how is the father and son equal In Existence?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:28pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
So if the father came into existence first, how is the father and son equal In Existence?
First, did i say Father and Son the are equal in existence?

Do you real eyes that there are at least 2 meanings of the word "equal in existence" one of which means that they exist together, like Tinubu and seyi?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 7:29pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
First, did i say Father and Son the are equal in existence?

Do you real eyes that there are at least 2 meanings of the word "equal in existence" one of which means that they exist together, like Tinubu and seyi?
Oh they are not equal in existence? Wow....nice one. What of in power, are they equal?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:37pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oh they are not equal in existence? Wow....nice one. What of in power, are they equal?
Even after I have pointed out that your equal in meaning has more than 1 meaning and I have you given you the meaning i see, you still locked on the one you already have in mind.

On power, Do you have your father's power? or does seyi have Tinubu's power? Now your stupid not ending questions have begun.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 7:42pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Even after I have pointed out that your equal in meaning has more than 1 meaning and I have you given you the meaning i see, you still locked on the one you already have in mind.

On power, Do you have your father's power? or does seyi have Tinubu's power? Now your stupid not ending questions have begun.
So the father also has power than the son...ok.
Is the son and the father the same person or they are different?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:46pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
So the father also has power than the son...ok.
Is the son and the father the same person or they are different?
Are you and your father the same person? or is Seyi Tinubu president of Nigeria, because his father is bola Ti?

You already know the answer stop making a fool of yourself asking stupid questions.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 7:53pm On Dec 04, 2024
Until you people realize that Jesus is a Roman /Greek invention, you will keep arguing. That is why the Catholics who invented the idea called it a mystery. And they said anybody who does not believe, let him be anathema(as good as Dead)
When the Tanakh clearly said that God is one...They even made the devil a dual opposite of God....what insult. And you want me to be part of it after finding out the truth...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 7:54pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Are you and your father the same person? or is Seyi Tinubu president of Nigeria, because his father is bola Ti?

You already know the answer stop making a fool of yourself asking stupid questions.
So please how is Jesus and his father are equal?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:58pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
So please how is Jesus and his father are equal?
Clearly, you are both stupid and Mad to still ask this after my answer.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 7:58pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly, you are both stupid andI Mad to still ask this after my answer.
🤣🤣🤣🤣Oga go and read about the meaning of Trinity. You clearly don't know it.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 8:01pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly, you are both stupid andI Mad to still ask this after my answer.
You really need to see a psychiatrist ...

You case has really gone to critical. It is now a code red situation.

Please....check yourself into uselu psychiatrist hospital and give them my contact. I will pay for your treatment. I promise.

Whhhhaat did you just type?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:03pm On Dec 04, 2024
Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣🤣Oga go and read about the meaning of Trinity. You clearly don't know it.
Mad Fool, go and get wisdom, knowledge and understanding then you will know the Truth of what you read and find things no one else has found.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:05pm On Dec 04, 2024
sonmvayina:
You really need to see a psychiatrist ...

You case has really gone to critical. It is now a code red situation.

Please....check yourself into uselu psychiatrist hospital and give them my contact. I will pay for your treatment. I promise.

Whhhhaat did you just type?
See mad drug addict can not read again.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 8:29pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
See mad drug addict can not read again.
Your madness is from birth....I mean, up till now, no progress in sight..
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:35pm On Dec 04, 2024
sonmvayina:
Your madness is from birth....I mean, up till now, no progress in sight..
Says the mad drug addict who can never be cured. Clearly your parents were mad drug addicts that is why you can never be cured.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 8:40pm On Dec 04, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Says the mad drug addict who can never be cured. Clearly your parents were mad drug addicts that is why you can never be cured.
It obvious your mum mated with a mad man....how else did she give birth to you?

Them suppose use you take do sacrifice since...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:43pm On Dec 04, 2024
sonmvayina:
It obvious your mum mated with a mad man....how else did she give birth to you?

Them suppose use you take do sacrifice since...
Its obvious Mad drug addict is on mad repeat mode
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 2:58pm On Dec 05, 2024
Michael547:
Alright Oga...... below is Genesis 35:18 in another translation.
Below is Ezekiel 18:4, 20 in king James translation. Do you believe that the soul dies according to those verses?


According to Genesis 2:7 that I quoted earlier, does that verse not tell you that man with his flesh is the one that is referred to as a living soul?
Nope
Actually man with his thoughts process is what makes him a soul

Some one in coma has a problem with his soul

But he is alive because it the spirit that keeps one alive not the soul

A mad person soul have a problem
So if you are alive and moving and thinking properly then you are a complete person

That why Jacob refused to call his son that name that the about to dying wife named him

Because he saw she was losing her soul her senses.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:00pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Nope
Actually man with his flesh and thoughts process is what makes him a soul

Some one in coma has a problem with his soul

But he is alive because it the spirit that keeps one alive not the soul

A mad person soul have a problem
So if you are alive and moving and thinking properly then you are a complete person

That why Jacob refused to call his son that name that the about to dying wife named him

Because he saw she was losing her soul her senses.
Does Genesis 2:7 say that man's flesh and his thoughts process is what makes him a living soul?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:04pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Nope
Actually man with his thoughts process is what makes him a soul

Some one in coma has a problem with his soul

But he is alive because it the spirit that keeps one alive not the soul

A mad person soul have a problem
So if you are alive and moving and thinking properly then you are a complete person

That why Jacob refused to call his son that name that the about to dying wife named him

Because he saw she was losing her soul her senses.
Any thoughts proces that sins shall die
Any one who thinks of sin have sinned and that why God said that person shall also die

Jesus said it too when you want to sin it takes places in your soul your heart also before it comes out in your flesh
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:06pm On Dec 05, 2024
Michael547:
Does Genesis 2:7 say that man's flesh and his thoughts process is what makes him a living soul?
Genesis is trying to paint the complete picture that why it called the complete man there soul

Because your soul is also you and your spirit is also you and your flesh is also you

Just like.
The Father is also God
Jesus is also God
Holy Spirit is also God

Glory

But if you want to understand it more, to understand soul more then you read other part of the Bible to see the real definition of soul
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:15pm On Dec 05, 2024
Michael547:
Oga according to John 14:28, did Jesus tell you that he was equal or greater to the father? Yes or no?
Jesus already said I am Lord and master then Bible shows that Jesus is both Lord and master and teacher and servant

Bible says any one that is a servant is greater than all... And since only God is greater than all this makes Jesus God

That another answer to why jesus is God

Because he is all those things
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:17pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Genesis is trying to paint the complete picture that why it called the complete man there soul

Because your soul is also you and your spirit is also you and your flesh is also you

Just like.
The Father is also God
Jesus is also God
Holy Spirit is also God

Glory

But if you want to understand it more, to understand soul more then you read other part of the Bible to see the real definition of soul
So in Genesis, was the soul put into man, or man with his flesh was the soul?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:18pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Jesus already said I am Lord and master then Bible shows that Jesus is both Lord and master and teacher and servant

Bible says any one that is a servant is greater than all... And since only God is greater than all this makes Jesus God

That another answer to why jesus is God

Because he is all those things
Oga the same Jesus that you are calling lord and master said a Father is greater than him. Who is this father?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:34pm On Dec 05, 2024
Michael547:
Ok good explanation.....If you agree that the first Lord is Yahweh and the second lord is Christ, below is Psalms 83:18, is there any other lord that is equal to Yahweh according to that verse?
Here
Yahweh is spoken of two different personalities

Hos 1:6-7 Then she conceived again and gave birth to a daughter. And the LORD said to him, "Name her Lo-ruhamah, for I will no longer have compassion on the house of Israel, that I would ever forgive them. (7) "But I will have compassion on the house of Judah and deliver them by the LORD their God, and will not deliver them by bow, sword, battle, horses or horsemen."

We see the same thing here where the speaker (God – Elohim) will save them by the Yahweh, their Elohim. Elohim is again spoken of as two distinct personalities. Another example is Gen 19:24.


10. Yahweh will live amongst us, and Yahweh will send Him!

Zech 2:10-11 Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD. “Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you


The LORD is going to dwell amongst us and it is the LORD Almighty that sent Him!

Can it get any clearer?
This shows the YHWH sent YHWH and only makes sense when you know that the Messiah Jesus is God!

He is the one who lived amongst us.
He is ‘God with us!’ That is why in the Shema,

‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God,
the Lord is one!’, the ‘our God’ part is plural in the Hebrew (literally ‘our Gods’ and the word for ‘one’ is echad – a compound unity,

not absolute unity as in the word ‘yachid’.)

So ‘If Moses had intended to teach God’s absolute oneness as opposed to His compound oneness,
this would have been a far more appropriate word (yachid) to use.’

But he didn’t! He used echad which is used in such passages as Gen 1:5 where evening and morning are called one (echad’) day.

One being
But in three dimensions

. Just like man one being
Having soul body spirit

Glory
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:37pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Here
Yahweh is spoken of two different personalities

Hos 1:6-7 Then she conceived again and gave birth to a daughter. And the LORD said to him, "Name her Lo-ruhamah, for I will no longer have compassion on the house of Israel, that I would ever forgive them. (7) "But I will have compassion on the house of Judah and deliver them by the LORD their God, and will not deliver them by bow, sword, battle, horses or horsemen."

We see the same thing here where the speaker (God – Elohim) will save them by the Yahweh, their Elohim. Elohim is again spoken of as two distinct personalities. Another example is Gen 19:24.


10. Yahweh will live amongst us, and Yahweh will send Him!

Zech 2:10-11 Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD. “Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you


The LORD is going to dwell amongst us and it is the LORD Almighty that sent Him!

Can it get any clearer?
This shows the YHWH sent YHWH and only makes sense when you know that the Messiah Jesus is God!

He is the one who lived amongst us.
He is ‘God with us!’ That is why in the Shema,

‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God,
the Lord is one!’, the ‘our God’ part is plural in the Hebrew (literally ‘our Gods’ and the word for ‘one’ is echad – a compound unity,

not absolute unity as in the word ‘yachid’.)

So ‘If Moses had intended to teach God’s absolute oneness as opposed to His compound oneness,
this would have been a far more appropriate word (yachid) to use.’

But he didn’t! He used echad which is used in such passages as Gen 1:5 where evening and morning are called one (echad’) day.

One being
But in three dimensions

. Just like man one being
Having soul body spirit

Glory
So are you saying that Jesus was both the Father and Yahweh?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:38pm On Dec 05, 2024
Michael547:
Oga the same Jesus that you are calling lord and master said a Father is greater than him. Who is this father?
Bible already told you Jesus us greater than all all means everything

Jesus name too is greater than all

All means Jesus is greater than all which shows he is that same everlasting father that sent himself that why he is greater
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:40pm On Dec 05, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Bible already told you Jesus us greater than all all means everything

Jesus name too is greater than all

All means Jesus is greater than all which shows he is that same everlasting father that sent himself that why he is greater
So is Jesus The Father?
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