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| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by lereinter(m): 6:00pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
MadamExcellency:Hmmmm Excellent piece |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Lawag3: 6:06pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker:She led the people of Israel. If God saw a woman fit be be his mouth piece then what can we mere humans do about it. God doesn't discriminate genders |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Cti28(m): 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
MadamVanessa:Apostleship is not even a title, it is an office. True Apostleship is very, very rare. Majority prostrating as Apostles today, are not. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by bukatyne(f): 6:10pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Ashawoman82:While I will not debate her worthiness for the office, it is unchristian to say 'gospel minister A is learning work from B' when it comes to such things. Modified: I am somewhat aligned with the position that Apostlic ministry is about the people who walked physically with Christ. The only person called an Apostle outside the circle of the physical disciples was Paul. And he saw Jesus on the road to Damascus. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by OkCornel(m): 6:23pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Meti99:Do a bit of research on who Junia is. Then confirm whether the bearer of that name was male or female. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by EgusiShankly: 6:30pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Lol |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by udemzyudex(m): 6:33pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
jesusjnr2020:Lol.. Very funny post. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by OkCornel(m): 6:43pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Kam2021:Check for Junia in Romans 16 v 7 |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 6:52pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Lawag3:You have now moved post from prophet, priest to leader. Any one can lead for God did not say only men could lwad. so an outcast and son of a LovePeddler even led Israel. But none of them served in the.Holy Tabernacle (church) |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Lawag3: 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker:You left the most important stuff she was the mouth piece of God. God revealed his plan through her. That should tell you something. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Capernum: 7:20pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
In my sincere opinion, ordaining people in to the office of an Apostle is unbiblical. You don't ordain an apostle. It is not a biblical pattern! We are starting another craze again now o. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by cococandy(f): 7:20pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Well I guess he just did. What are you going to do about it 🥱 Dtruthspeaker: |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by cococandy(f): 7:22pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
This ! BlessingIsraelM: |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Kobojunkie: 7:34pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Capernum:The craze started a bunch of Romans — non-Israelites— decided to make themselves gods over an idea alien to their bloodline and even created a religion — Christianity— of it. ![]() |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Macnnoli4(m): 7:50pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
I blame Apostle Paul for bringing sexism into the church. The only reason why women weren't apostles during Jesus time is because of the patrachial environment that time. But now times have changed, are we going to continue being retrogressive? |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Kobojunkie: 7:55pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Macnnoli4:LOL... Paul never brought sexism into the church. He could not have done that since Paul was a servant, not a master, under Jesus Christ of Isreal. After all, Paul was an Israelite. ![]() The ones who gave you sexism as a foundation in your religion of Christianity fashioned by non-Israelites— those Jesus Christ of Israel warned were not endowed with the ability to handle that which is Holy(they can only tamper with it)— are your religious leaders. Their major idea is to rule over your will with ideas and doctrines that fit well within their scheme and understanding. ![]() |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by OneOnland: 7:58pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker:Deborah was a judge, a prophet called by Gd. And she was a woman. Gd had never treated women lesser than men, at least the old testament tells that. While women were not so popular, there still was Deborah, a judge called by Gd. There still was Esther, a heroine/liberator. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Mariangeles(f): 8:01pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Macnnoli4:Still, Jesus Christ had women who worked/walked closely with him. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by OneOnland: 8:04pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Mariangeles:Mary Magdalene, for example. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Mariangeles(f): 8:08pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
OneOnland:Even Martha her sister, and many others that their names were never mentioned. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Originalsly: 8:09pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Hmmmm .... couldn't she just declare herself an apostle?... after all ... she has popular Christian songs on her resume ... what do the two have? ... who made them apostles?...and gave them the power to appoint apostles? Three blind mice ... doesn't the Bible state women should not have position on the church? The blind leading the blind. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by OneOnland: 8:18pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
MadamVanessa:Merit? How could you know who merits what and what, a matter of 'spirit-related'? Plus, how could you be certain that she may not be a genuine christ disciple. Your Jesus embraced a prostitute, so how terrible could a church-going gospel singer be to the Jesus? |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Mariangeles(f): 8:20pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Samfloxin:Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being His counsellor hath taught Him? |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:00pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
MadamVanessa:Ignorance How do you know that she doesn't deserve it...God's PA |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:01pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Samfloxin:Deborah was a prophetess |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:01pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
OneOnland:You dey mind that buffon |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:03pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Kobojunkie:Christianity doesn't discriminate against women, people interpretes the scripture based on their agenda. In the same scripture, we have prophetess like Deborah and four daughters of Philip |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by ttime(m): 9:07pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
OkCornel:That verse is greatly misinterpreted. Read it in ESV It says "they are well known to the Apostles" Speaks of their relationship to the Apostles, since they were christians before him. That verse doesn't mean they were apostles themselves. |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Kobojunkie: 9:16pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
femi4:I know your kind...denial of the obvious facts is your way.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:18pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Kobojunkie:I speak facts with proof, not a hypocrite like you |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by Kobojunkie: 9:19pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
femi4:Your mind seems to have forgotten what the term fact imply then ....😂😂😂😂😂😂 |
| Re: Victoria Orenze Ordained As Apostle, Sparks Debate Among Christians by femi4: 9:22pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Kobojunkie:lolz, Cry more |
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