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Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by chrisxxx(m): 11:21am On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
Your views on this is totally inconsequential. You are a South westerner trying desperately to protect his oil industry work.

Let the people decide on a referendum or plebiscite. Whichever suits you or them. Stop propagating these spurious propaganda details from the Lagos ibadam express way press houses.

That's how you were wailing that all Ikwerres will behead anybody that calls them igbos, but few days ago Ikwerres were the ones going gaga at their right to head Ohaneze. Explain that, you interloper.

Oga, shift. Let the people involved make their decisions. My views and yours shouldn't count. Allow the so called minorities to make their decisions in a well organised process. What's wrong with that?
Which ikwerre person wants to lead Ohaneze?
Uche Okwukwu is of Arochukwu ancestry.
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by MadPolitician: 11:31am On Dec 08, 2024
chrisxxx:
Which ikwerre person wants to lead Ohaneze?
Uche Okwukwu is of Arochukwu ancestry.
Oga, leave me alone.
A bag of rice is chasing 200k under your brothers rule and you are here trying to deflect and gaslight with Igbo, Ohaneze and IPOB. A full chicken is above 25k. Cow is over a million. Common torotoro was advertised by tour fellow agbadorian for almost 80k here few days ago, and he even lambasted me for displaying outrage.
Leave me alone ahbegi.
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by Abagworo(m): 11:36am On Dec 08, 2024
richmond500:
So what if they are Igbo land?
They will automatically become Biafra just because they are Igbos?

So because I share some ancestry with u, u must forcelly annex me?
What I read their is referendum not annexation. They said the people have to decide for themselves not another people deciding for them. In that Biafra agitation there are Igbos not in support and some non-Igbos playing active roles so it will be wrong to associate it exclusively to Igbos not to talk of collectively.
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by richmond500: 12:12pm On Dec 08, 2024
Abagworo:
What I read their is referendum not annexation. They said the people have to decide for themselves not another people deciding for them. In that Biafra agitation there are Igbos not in support and some non-Igbos playing active roles so it will be wrong to associate it exclusively to Igbos not to talk of collectively.
why don't u allow the people to decide they want to start a referendum?
Don't they have people that could talk for them? They have kings, house of reps, senate etc. if they want u, they will agitate for themselves.

Don't stay in ur state and tell them what to do
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by TrainPark: 12:41pm On Dec 08, 2024
Simple argument: If the Igbos, through the so-called Ipob, are fighting for the right to self-determination... which is germaine and admirable;

why do the same Igbos keep insisting that other tribal groups DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO THE SAME SELF-DETERMINATION? Why cant you all accept the fact that people are not Igbo and do not want to be Igbo?

It is even worse when the Igbos see the need and logic to force, coerce, blackmail, and insult other tribal groups that are geographically and demographically equal, or even larger tribal groups than them, to forcefully belong to their stock and their way of thinking.

They arbitrarily name independent and free tribal groups with Igbo names as if no other tribe can name another tribe and claim it.... just imagine what they renamed the Benin Empire, which is historically emperically and verifiably more famous than the Igbo group.... very funny and naive..hah hah ha ha hah

Do you see some of the key contradictions in your position?

The childish tactics of insulting anybody that differs from your claimed position are textbook narcissistic traits.

I will be the first to support your right to self-determination, but that same right applies to every and any other person and tribal group.

A needless piece of advice is that the world is not a church, and it is a game of dominance and survival. Every people and tribe will do WHATEVER is neccessary to maximize the probability for its survival, including enslaving, killing, rape, subjugation, dehumanization, colonization, and extermination. Every known civilization has done the same thing and is still doing the same today.

Your prayer should be that you are not at the receiving end of man's inhumanity to man and do your best to strategically survive.

Ezewuzie01:
The Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, on Saturday insisted that Biafra territories cover Edo, Kogi, Cross River and Bayelsa states.

IPOB made the remark while faulting the Pan Niger Delta Forum, PANDEF, and an Igala group for condemning the inclusion of the Niger Delta and Kogi State in the Biafra territories.

PANDEF had warned the proponents of the Biafra Republic against including communities in the Niger Delta or South-South geopolitical zone in their secessionist plans.

Also, the Eastern Senatorial District of Kogi State, which spoke through a group under the auspices of Igala Youth Council, condemned the inclusion of the state in the secessionist agenda.

The group noted that the viral video of IPOB outlining their plans for a 40-state Biafran nation was not only laughable but a joke taken too far.

Reacting, IPOB’s spokesman, Emma Powerful, said: “The myriad of statements purportedly emanating from some of these recruited faceless individuals on social media and belatedly from alleged Igala groups and PANDEF, disassociating themselves from Biafra is not only pathetic but laughable.

“For the thousandth time, we wish to make it abundantly clear that ancient Igboland spans 13 states of Nigeria.

“These are not areas occupied by Igbo speaking people but are ancient Igbo land with Igbo people in them. Therefore the hate inspired, politically motivated gerrymandering of borders in Igboland to create the misleading impression that Igboland and Igbo people are confined to only 5 states of the Southeast is a lie this IPOB shall confront and will continue to confront until the truth is not only acknowledged but acted upon via the instrumentality of a United Nations supervised referendum as was the case in Southern Sudan, the newest state to emerge in Africa.

“Those is Igala and PANDEF that claim they don’t want anything to do with Biafra, must also know and accept that Igboland in these territories Gowon and the British ceded to the North, Mid-West and the so-called South South will eternally be Igboland and no jupiter will change this irrefutable fact. When the Nigerian state balkanised ancient Igboland by carving these territories into their newly created ‘non-Igbo’ states, nobody complained because IPOB had not come by then.

“Now that God has determined that we must come, we IPOB are here and we say without any fear of contradiction that Igboland is one and indivisible, from those carved into Kogi State to Bayelsa and from those in Cross River to Edo.

“Our great leader Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is on record as having said repeatedly that no ethnic group, tribe or clan will be forced to become part of Biafra.

“Biafra shall be a model nation founded along the principles of confederacy as obtains in Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates, with the consent of the people wilfully expressed in a UN supervised referendum. PANDEF and our brothers in Igala land should wait for an opportunity to express their preference in a referendum before deciding where they wish to belong or not.

“We must also be guided by the fact that the wonderful people of Obosi in Anambra State have within them those who are descended from the land of Igala in present day Kogi State. If in doubt ask the Attah of Obosi. We Biafrans are republican by nature and no single human being arrogate powers unto himself without the consent of the people. Therefore, there can never be any government or prime minister without the consent of every Biafran, willfully expressed in a widely accepted democratic process. In other words, to be the head of state, prime minister or any officer of state in Biafra, you must be voted for by the people.

“Biafra is a project ordained by our Almighty God himself and no amount of subterfuge, deceit, lies, murder, kidnapping or persecution will make us deviate from this peaceful path to freedom.”



https://dailypost.ng/2024/12/07/edo-kogi-cross-river-bayelsa-part-of-biafra-ipob-replies-pandef-igala-group/
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by TrainPark: 12:46pm On Dec 08, 2024
Simple argument: If the Igbos, through the so-called Ipob, are fighting for the right to self-determination... which is germaine and admirable;

why do the same Igbos keep insisting that other tribal groups DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO THE SAME SELF-DETERMINATION? Why cant you all accept the fact that people are not Igbo and do not want to be Igbo?

It is even worse when the Igbos see the need and logic to force, coerce, blackmail, and insult other tribal groups that are geographically and demographically equal, or even larger tribal groups than them, to forcefully belong to their stock and their way of thinking.

They arbitrarily name independent and free tribal groups with Igbo names as if no other tribe can name another tribe and claim it.... just imagine what they renamed the Benin Empire, which is historically emperically and verifiably more famous than the Igbo group.... very funny and naive..hah hah ha ha hah

Do you see some of the key contradictions in your position?

The childish tactics of insulting anybody that differs from your claimed position are textbook narcissistic traits.

I will be the first to support your right to self-determination, but that same right applies to every and any other person and tribal group.

A needless piece of advice is that the world is not a church, and it is a game of dominance and survival. Every people and tribe will do WHATEVER is neccessary to maximize the probability for its survival, including enslaving, killing, rape, subjugation, dehumanization, colonization, and extermination. Every known civilization has done the same thing and is still doing the same today.

Your prayer should be that you are not at the receiving end of man's inhumanity to man and do your best to strategically survive.
Ezewuzie01:
The Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, on Saturday insisted that Biafra territories cover Edo, Kogi, Cross River and Bayelsa states.

IPOB made the remark while faulting the Pan Niger Delta Forum, PANDEF, and an Igala group for condemning the inclusion of the Niger Delta and Kogi State in the Biafra territories.

PANDEF had warned the proponents of the Biafra Republic against including communities in the Niger Delta or South-South geopolitical zone in their secessionist plans.

Also, the Eastern Senatorial District of Kogi State, which spoke through a group under the auspices of Igala Youth Council, condemned the inclusion of the state in the secessionist agenda.

The group noted that the viral video of IPOB outlining their plans for a 40-state Biafran nation was not only laughable but a joke taken too far.

Reacting, IPOB’s spokesman, Emma Powerful, said: “The myriad of statements purportedly emanating from some of these recruited faceless individuals on social media and belatedly from alleged Igala groups and PANDEF, disassociating themselves from Biafra is not only pathetic but laughable.

“For the thousandth time, we wish to make it abundantly clear that ancient Igboland spans 13 states of Nigeria.

“These are not areas occupied by Igbo speaking people but are ancient Igbo land with Igbo people in them. Therefore the hate inspired, politically motivated gerrymandering of borders in Igboland to create the misleading impression that Igboland and Igbo people are confined to only 5 states of the Southeast is a lie this IPOB shall confront and will continue to confront until the truth is not only acknowledged but acted upon via the instrumentality of a United Nations supervised referendum as was the case in Southern Sudan, the newest state to emerge in Africa.

“Those is Igala and PANDEF that claim they don’t want anything to do with Biafra, must also know and accept that Igboland in these territories Gowon and the British ceded to the North, Mid-West and the so-called South South will eternally be Igboland and no jupiter will change this irrefutable fact. When the Nigerian state balkanised ancient Igboland by carving these territories into their newly created ‘non-Igbo’ states, nobody complained because IPOB had not come by then.

“Now that God has determined that we must come, we IPOB are here and we say without any fear of contradiction that Igboland is one and indivisible, from those carved into Kogi State to Bayelsa and from those in Cross River to Edo.

“Our great leader Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is on record as having said repeatedly that no ethnic group, tribe or clan will be forced to become part of Biafra.

“Biafra shall be a model nation founded along the principles of confederacy as obtains in Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates, with the consent of the people wilfully expressed in a UN supervised referendum. PANDEF and our brothers in Igala land should wait for an opportunity to express their preference in a referendum before deciding where they wish to belong or not.

“We must also be guided by the fact that the wonderful people of Obosi in Anambra State have within them those who are descended from the land of Igala in present day Kogi State. If in doubt ask the Attah of Obosi. We Biafrans are republican by nature and no single human being arrogate powers unto himself without the consent of the people. Therefore, there can never be any government or prime minister without the consent of every Biafran, willfully expressed in a widely accepted democratic process. In other words, to be the head of state, prime minister or any officer of state in Biafra, you must be voted for by the people.

“Biafra is a project ordained by our Almighty God himself and no amount of subterfuge, deceit, lies, murder, kidnapping or persecution will make us deviate from this peaceful path to freedom.”



https://dailypost.ng/2024/12/07/edo-kogi-cross-river-bayelsa-part-of-biafra-ipob-replies-pandef-igala-group/
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by Ojiofor: 12:54pm On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
Yeah!
No deliberation on that.
Once you're igbo, you are in.
Other minorities that are not igbos can chose what they do with their fuckin lives. Nothing they have that we don't have,so?
That's how we roll.
Any further questions?
I thought IPOB distanced themselves from BRGIE aka AUTOPILOT declaration?why are they now defending the actions of same group they said does not speak for them?
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by aswani(m): 1:01pm On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
It is a Sunday, I have tour time..
Tell me, why are you Yorubas desperate to COLONISE the good people of Eguns in Lagos?

Or is it because the fulanis are colonising you at ilorin, right?
Kwantiniu
I don't know if the other poster has answered and not sure what all this Ègún business is. However, simple answer to your anti Yoruba in Lagos tirade (for that is what it is deep down) when compared to the Ndigbo claiming South South that you are defending.

I call it the indigenous language test:
What languages are spoken in palaces all over Lagos? What languages are spoken in palaces all over South South?
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by MadPolitician: 1:06pm On Dec 08, 2024
Ojiofor:
I thought IPOB distanced themselves from BRGIE aka AUTOPILOT declaration?why are they now defending the actions of same group they said does not speak for them?
Why are you asking me?
Am I IPOB or BRGIE?
You seem to know a lot about them more than us..
Explain then
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by Ojiofor: 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
Why are you asking me?
Am I IPOB or BRGIE?
You seem to know a lot about them more than us..
Explain then
Who are the US in your comment?
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by MadPolitician: 1:14pm On Dec 08, 2024
Ojiofor:
Who are the US in your comment?
Me and my daughter.
Any further questions?
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by yommen: 1:24pm On Dec 08, 2024
Ojukwu taking the war to places that naturally are not Igbo land was one of the reasons why he lost the war. He was actually trying to make Lagos part of Biafra land. He was in Ondo already and that was where the defeat started coming from.
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by Ojiofor: 1:27pm On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
Me and my daughter.
Any further questions?
Nothing do you.Have a nice sunday.
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by MadPolitician: 1:32pm On Dec 08, 2024
Ojiofor:
Nothing do you.Have a nice sunday.
You too..
Greetings to the family
Re: Biafra: What Is Known As South-south Are Ancient Igbo Lands, IPOB Blasts PANDEF by Ojiofor: 1:44pm On Dec 08, 2024
MadPolitician:
You too..
Greetings to the family
Thanks bro best regards.
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