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TUANKU:
Nigeria's population just reduced by 4...consider these ones dead. How will you be selling drugs in Saudi Arabia? Na to die by beheading dey hungry dem or what? Anyway RIP in advance.

gaskiyamagana:
That is 1000% sure. Indeed, they choose wrong country.
Minus four for Obi or Tinubu come 2027 election.

TUANKU:
Nigeria's population just reduced by 4...consider these ones dead. How will you be selling drugs in Saudi Arabia? Na to die by beheading dey hungry dem or what? Anyway RIP in advance.

Kukutente23:
Islamic liar. When has NDLEA ever arrested people without mentioning their names? I asked you for their names not the news. Is the jinn in you only good with Arabic comprehension?


So why didn't Muhammad follow the dictates of this verse by freeing the two black slaves instead of selling them into further slavery from his slavery? Muhammad disobeyed his own quran!!
What a prophet!!

AdolfHitlerxXx:
They are Ibos. Look at their heads.

Ibos are known to even use fake names for drugs peddling. That's 💯 fact.

DeepSight:
How many times do I have to describe Muhammad to you.

He was an illiterate medieval thief, paedophile, mass murderer, plagiarist, sexual pervert, pretender, caravan robber.

His so called Quran is largely plagiarized from the Old Testament.

If Muhammad wants to sleep with his house girl, he will just say he heard a new verse from Allah that permits it. End of.

shizzleStar:
shizzleStar to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother:

yarobanza, na your stupid father be ibo. At least every sane person knows they are not Igbo

Kitikpa g a gbuo gi. Anuofia

Kukutente23:
Will doffman and AntiChristian agree?

They believe the Qur'an is a revelation and the last book after Torah, Zabir and Injeel

They also believe those books are lost and only quran is still with us though they have not told us why Allah can't just tell us where the books are.

They also insist the bible is corrupted though they can't tell us which part is corrupted and which is not

Lastly, they can't explain why so the other prophets are from Isaac's line and only Muhammad is from Ishmael's

DeepSight:
I don't care whether anyone agrees. That's who Muhammad was.

He would literally suddenly say he has heard a new verse in order to fvvuck a woman or kill a person.

He had no integrity and was one of the worst criminals in history.

However the Bible is also corrupted mostly by those who put it together - the Catholic Church.

Kukutente23:
Lol. When you describe Muhammad as one of the worst criminals, I think you're not being fair to him.

I believe he was actually quite religious and believed in the supreme God of the Jews being the true God. His problem lies in his inability to let go of his tribal and personal proclivities. It's a flaw that flows through his message and ministry. He ended up making the religion about himself simply because Jews and Christians rejected him. That's where he got misguided and deviated.

As for the Bible, it is not a work of the catholics. The most popular bible in use today is the one compiled by the Protestants especially Martin Luther who removed some canonical texts from the bible. So to reduce the bible as it is today to the work of catholics is a fallacy

ecomjourney:
Mumu.

You don't know the effect drugs have on the lives of its users, it renders them useless and leads to death.

See how ignorant and foolish you display your sense of reasoning on a public forum, to slap you just dey hungry me.

SmartPolician:
Saudi Crown Prince will cut them into pieces the way he butchered Jamal Khashoggi for criticizing his government.

obiekunie01:
BC THEY ARE FROM THE SADWASTERN SIDE, THEIR NAMES ARE NOT LISTED AND THEIR FACES HIDDEN.

Super biased media.

Scam. drug. skull mining. rape. theft. they are king in all. shofisticated sadwaste!
These people keep dragging the name of this county in the mud everywhere they go!

DeepSight:
My dear friend, tell me what you know about the Council of Nicea and the Arian Heresy. And please dont forget Constantine the Great who presided over all these things.

As for Muhammad - I repeat - with full confidence - he was simply a rogue and criminal of the highest order.

Kukutente23:
I don't know of any relationship between the Council of Nicea and the Bible. My knowledge of those events you mentioned was to solve a theological debate not to compile the Bible so I don't really know what you're going with it. Like I said, the Bible as it is presently known is not the work of the Catholic Church. They've had some influence over it definitely but they cannot claim sole ownership

Guy, calm down with Muhammad. You should be a good student of religion, history and philosophy instead of sounding like a fanatic or extremist. It will interest you to know that my debate with Muslims here, end here. Most importantly, I don't engage them to demean their religion but to open their eyes to some home truths especially that dude who thinks he has some moral ground to attack Christianity. I have studied various religions and texts and I can proudly say Christianity still remains the best and most illuminating religion for humanity that can give us what we really seek in this world if practiced as Jesus taught.

Kukutente23:
I don't know of any relationship between the Council of Nicea and the Bible. My knowledge of those events you mentioned was to solve a theological debate not to compile the Bible so I don't really know what you're going with it. Like I said, the Bible as it is presently known is not the work of the Catholic Church. They've had some influence over it definitely but they cannot claim sole ownership

Guy, calm down with Muhammad. You should be a good student of religion, history and philosophy instead of sounding like a fanatic or extremist. It will interest you to know that my debate with Muslims here, end here. Most importantly, I don't engage them to demean their religion but to open their eyes to some home truths especially that dude who thinks he has some moral ground to attack Christianity. I have studied various religions and texts and I can proudly say Christianity still remains the best and most illuminating religion for humanity that can give us what we really seek in this world if practiced as Jesus taught.

DeepSight:
The Council of Nicea was already the Catholic Church. And they decided the doctrines of Christianity and what to include in the Bible and what to exclude. The Arian heresy was about the Doctrine of the Trinity - Arius disagreed with it, and most of the bishops also did - infact the sitting pope at the time did as well.

There are hundreds of books that were kept out of the bible by the Church.
Constantine the Great enforced the Bible to give Rome a united religion.

No Protestants added any books to the Bible after the Catholic Chuch arranged it. All that happened is that the apocrypha does not appear in non-catholic bibles.

What I am telling you is that you assume the Bible is perfect. No. It ws a political work.

As for Muhammad, na God go punish am.

DeepSight:
PS - Practicing what Jesus taught is good. Except the part about saying "turn the other cheek." That is too pacifist and encourages violence. There must be a balance of terror to stop violence.

Kukutente23:
I'm not sure you have studied Christianity well enough. Do you realize that what you call Catholic Church today is an offshoot of the Jerusalem Council of the early Apostles who themselves formed the council after the Jewish council of Sanhedrin and Scribes? The history of Christianity is broader and more complex than just ascribing it to Catholicism. Christianity today has about five different branches with different theological emphasis. The Catholic, Protestants, Evangelicals, Pentecostals and Presbyterians are all valid branches of Christianity with different leanings in terms of theology. Each has at one time influenced the other with the Pentecostal which is the latest branch even influencing the Catholic which is the oldest and birthing the Charismatic Catholic movement.

The Council of Nicaea did not invent or produce the Bible. The council was convened majorly to deal with theological questions and debates and not the Bible. The Bible has existed long before the council was ever considered. The Torah is the oldest Bible. The Hebrew Bible is the second oldest. The Septuagint, which is the oldest Catholic Bible, existed before the Council of Nicaea.

More importantly, Constantine had nothing to do with the Bible. He made Christianity a state religion but he did not compile the Bible. The Catholics also left out some parts of the old scrolls in compiling the Latin Vulgate just as Martin Luther left out some parts of the Vulgate in compiling the Protestant Bible. Tyndale made some adjustment to the use and meaning of words from direct interpretation of the original Greek which is why he refused to use the Latin Vulgate extensively in his works. All these point to as I said, that the Bible is not a product of Catholicism.

Kukutente23:
I'm not sure you have studied Christianity well enough. Do you realize that what you call Catholic Church today is an offshoot of the Jerusalem Council of the early Apostles who themselves formed the council after the Jewish council of Sanhedrin and Scribes? The history of Christianity is broader and more complex than just ascribing it to Catholicism. Christianity today has about five different branches with different theological emphasis. The Catholic, Protestants, Evangelicals, Pentecostals and Presbyterians are all valid branches of Christianity with different leanings in terms of theology. Each has at one time influenced the other with the Pentecostal which is the latest branch even influencing the Catholic which is the oldest and birthing the Charismatic Catholic movement.

The Council of Nicaea did not invent or produce the Bible. The council was convened majorly to deal with theological questions and debates and not the Bible. The Bible has existed long before the council was ever considered. The Torah is the oldest Bible. The Hebrew Bible is the second oldest. The Septuagint, which is the oldest Catholic Bible, existed before the Council of Nicaea.

More importantly, Constantine had nothing to do with the Bible. He made Christianity a state religion but he did not compile the Bible. The Catholics also left out some parts of the old scrolls in compiling the Latin Vulgate just as Martin Luther left out some parts of the Vulgate in compiling the Protestant Bible. Tyndale made some adjustment to the use and meaning of words from direct interpretation of the original Greek which is why he refused to use the Latin Vulgate extensively in his works. All these point to as I said, that the Bible is not a product of Catholicism.

DeepSight:
Lets keep it simple -

1. Who was the first Pope

2. What "Church" put together the first Bible (not Torah oh - OT and NT together).

3. What was that "Church" or "Group" or "Council" called.

Thank you.

PS: Please point me to one book added to the Bible by any other "branch" of Christianity other than the Catholics.

DeepSight:
PS - Look here -

https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2024/09/canon-bible-lyle-boudreaux.html

The short and most accurate answer is that the Catholic Church compiled the Bible.

Re: Council of Nicea - Yes, theological debates. However, one thing I want you to realize is that the result of those debates also influenced books that would be rejected and books that would be accepted.

Re: Constantine - There would be nothing like Christianity as a major world religion today without him.