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Ohyoudidnt:
Monotheism of Islam, is the most pure expression of the faith, focusing on the absolute Oneness of Allah. It prohibits intermediaries in worship and promotes a direct relationship with Allah without saints, clergy, or idols. Islam rejects the Trinity and polytheism, highlighting Allah's attributes without compromising His Oneness. Prophets from Adam to Muhammad convey this message, integrating all aspects of life with sincerity and obedience.

Guy, monotheism simply means worship of one God the rest is the viewpoint of your own religion which comes from the book you read so stop deceiving yourself monotheism is the same everywhere the only thing that could make a difference is how it affects people both inside and outside your religion what your own God says can't be imposed on others as long as they are not moved with reasoning.

Ohyoudidnt:
When you don't know what the sharia is and how it applies to non muslims you cannot make good statements. Where in Nigeria is the Sharia actually practiced?

Exactly what Boko Haram is fighting for!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, monotheism simply means worship of one God the rest is the viewpoint of your own religion which comes from the book you read so stop deceiving yourself monotheism is the same everywhere the only thing that could make a difference is how it affects people both inside and outside your religion what your own God says can't be imposed on others as long as they are not moved with reasoning.

Oh really? Well Jehovah witness don't believe in trinity but believe God has a son. You asked what makes Islam different and have been told some.

I see you are not quite in agreement regarding your beliefs with other Christians too.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what Boko Haram is fighting for!

I don't know what Boko Haram wants but find it interesting you do. Whatever they want and do in their actions are contrary to Islam.

Ohyoudidnt:
Oh really? Well Jehovah witness don't believe in trinity but believe God has a son. You asked what makes Islam different and have been told some. I see you are not quite in agreement regarding your beliefs with other Christians too.

It's everywhere that's why Boko Haram has a different ideology too but when counting the numbers of Muslims worldwide do you people count out terrorists like Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Shabab, Al-qaeda and their likes as no part of the Muslims in the world?
That's what makes JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES unique because according to them Christians globally today are less than 9 million which are members of their own group alone and that makes perfect sense since they only count those actively involved in the assignment Jesus who is called CHRIST gave his disciples! Act 1:8 compare to Matthew 28:19-20

Ohyoudidnt:
I don't know what Boko Haram wants but find it interesting you do. Whatever they want and do in their actions are contrary to Islam.

Try to be sincere my friend Boko Haram once captured some part of the north and the first thing they established is SHARIA so everyone knows what they are fighting to establish!

MaxInDHouse:
It's everywhere that's why Boko Haram has a different ideology too but when counting the numbers of Muslims worldwide do you people count out terrorists like Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Shabab, Al-qaeda and their likes as no part of the Muslims in the world?
That's what makes JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES unique because according to them Christians globally today are less than 9 million which are members of their own group alone and that makes perfect sense since they only count those actively involved in the assignment Jesus who is called CHRIST gave his disciples! Act 1:8 compare to Matthew 28:19-20



Try to be sincere my friend Boko Haram once captured some part of the north and the first thing they established is SHARIA so everyone knows what they are fighting to establish!

The trickery present in wars claimed to be fueled by religion extends beyond mere exploitation of belief; it also involves the ways in which these distortions correspond with broader socio-political objectives. Understanding this relationship is crucial for addressing contemporary conflicts where religion plays a significant role.

There are instances of non-Muslims being involved with the group either through coercion, economic necessity, or complex local dynamics that blur traditional religious lines.

I see you allude to individualism in perception and relations with the supreme. We should leave this as is.

Ohyoudidnt:
The trickery present in wars claimed to be fueled by religion extends beyond mere exploitation of belief; it also involves the ways in which these distortions correspond with broader socio-political objectives. Understanding this relationship is crucial for addressing contemporary conflicts where religion plays a significant role.
There are instances of non-Muslims being involved with the group either through coercion, economic necessity, or complex local dynamics that blur traditional religious lines.
I see you allude to individualism in perception and relations with the supreme. We should leave this as is.

All these still boils down to the same thing:

Your Allah failed to maintain peace among it's worshipers no matter what happens believers in God knows that whoever is guilty will be judged by God but obviously that's not the case with your Allah that's why adherents pick up weapons to fight for justice leaving your Allah out of it completely yet when it's time to bow hypocritically they will all face the black stone!

MaxInDHouse:
All these still boils down to the same thing:

Your Allah failed to maintain peace among it's worshipers no matter what happens believers in God knows that whoever is guilty will be judged by God but obviously that's not the case with your Allah that's why adherents pick up weapons to fight for justice leaving your Allah out of it completely yet when it's time to bow hypocritically they will all face the black stone!

Allah can't fight for himself, he needs puppet soldiers to fight for him.

Gabrielshow24:
Allah can't fight for himself, he needs puppet soldiers to fight for him.

That's not even the case but Allah helplessly and hopelessly watches it's worshipers killing one another due to racial and political issues yet they claim Allah will judge.

Please do they truly believe Allah exists at all talkless of this deity being able to judge?

MaxInDHouse:
That's not even the case but Allah helplessly and hopelessly watches it's worshipers killing one another due to racial and political issues yet they claim Allah will judge.

Please do they truly believe Allah exists at all talkless of this deity being able to judge?

Can you tell me the which of the numerous wars in the world today are between Muslims.

Your scripture the Bible reads;
Matthew 24:6-7
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.

Is this what is happening as accurately stated in your book under the inspiration of your God or holy spirit?

Ohyoudidnt:
Can you tell me the which of the numerous wars in the world today are between Muslims.
Your scripture the Bible reads;
Matthew 24:6-7
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Is this what is happening as accurately stated in your book under the inspiration of your God or holy spirit?

It is what faithless miscreants will be doing as they don't believe in God or judgement of God so they will be fighting and killing one another claiming they are doing so for justice! Revelations 6:3-4

MaxInDHouse:
It is what faithless miscreants will be doing as they don't believe in God or judgement of God so they will be fighting and killing one another claiming they are doing so for justice! Revelations 6:3-4

Matthew 24;
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people


How come the faithful are not saved from persecutions and death of these?

Ohyoudidnt:
Matthew 24;
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people
How come the faithful are not saved from persecutions and death of these?

Because they are ready to lay down their lives instead of joining others in killing their neighbors claiming it's defense that's why Jesus promised them life! Revelations 2:10

So they know that killers during the end time claiming they are fighting for God or defence are under the influence of Satan the killer! Revelations 6:3-4 compare to John 8:44

Surely most of them will be killed by Satan's zombies but Jesus has promised them what they really want: everlasting life! John 11:25

MaxInDHouse:
Because they are ready to lay down their lives instead of joining others in killing their neighbors claiming it's defense that's why Jesus promised them life! Revelations 2:10

So they know that killers during the end time claiming they are fighting for God or defence are under the influence of Satan the killer! Revelations 6:3-4 compare to John 8:44

Surely most of them will be killed by Satan's zombies but Jesus has promised them what they really want: everlasting life! John 11:25

You refer to end time however do you know the duration and start of the end time?

Historically and presently are 'followers of Jesus' devoid of wars and conflict with one another? You cannot make a clear case for Muslims fighting themselves.

Everlasting life after earthly death or what?

Ohyoudidnt:
You refer to end time however do you know the duration and start of the end time?

Historically and presently are 'followers of Jesus' devoid of wars and conflict with one another? You cannot make a clear case for Muslims fighting themselves.

Everlasting life after earthly death or what?

You seem to omit the very obvious sunni and shia conflict!

Even within your sects they believe the so called "word of God" has been tampered with.

Also mind you the four earthly instructors(the most knowledge as the regards the Quran) Mohammed left you guys in their stead did not agree with the Quran collated!

That's really saying something!

Also if you don't know there are also textual variations of your blessed incorruptible, infallible word of God like the warsh and hafs Quran! With thousands of textual variations

And yet your hypocrisy has the guts to call the bible corrupted. All the scrutiny you put on the bible if placed on the Quran, your so called "word of God" falls apart.

If the Bible is true Quran is false and if the Bible is false and corrupted as you say then the Quran is likewise false.

There's no way of escaping the dilemma you have dug yourselves in!

Gabrielshow24:
You seem to omit the very obvious sunni and shia conflict!

Even within your sects they believe the so called "word of God" has been tampered with.

Also mind you the four earthly instructors(the most knowledge as the regards the Quran) Mohammed left you guys in their stead did not agree with the Quran collated!

That's really saying something!

Also if you don't know there are also textual variations of your blessed incorruptible, infallible word of God like the warsh and hafs Quran! With thousands of textual variations

And yet your hypocrisy has the guts to call the bible corrupted. All the scrutiny you put on the bible if placed on the Quran, your so called "word of God" falls apart.

If the Bible is true Quran is false and if the Bible is false and corrupted as you say then the Quran is likewise false.
No
There's no way of escaping the dilemma you have dug yourselves in!

Are you now taking over this discussion and bringing in other matters?

Muslims are aware of the different Qiraat transmitted from prophet Muhammad pbuh himself. These reflect the richness and depth of the divine message, showcasing slight differences in wording, pronunciation, or arrangement while conveying the same meaning.

Despite differences, many Sunni and Shia Muslims live peacefully together, sharing core beliefs. What you may call aggressive difference are primarily political not religious.

When did followers of Jesus as Catholics or protestants abandon theirs?


Everlasting life after earthly death or what? Do answer as you now represent who I have been chatting with.

Ohyoudidnt:
• You refer to end time however do you know the duration and start of the end time?


• Historically and presently are 'followers of Jesus' devoid of wars and conflict with one another? You cannot make a clear case for Muslims fighting themselves.

• Everlasting life after earthly death or what?

•The endtime started with great signs and even your own people often refer to this period as "ìrọ̀lẹ́ ayé" which means they admitted it's the end time so stop deceiving yourself!

•Jehovah's Witnesses (the real disciples of Christ) don't participate in any form of war!

•Everlasting life after resurrection nah, àbí you have forgotten "ọjọ́ àgbéǹde àlìkìámà"
My friend humble yourself and learn!

Ohyoudidnt:
Are you now taking over this discussion and bringing in other matters?

Muslims are aware of the different Qiraat transmitted from prophet Muhammad pbuh himself. These reflect the richness and depth of the divine message, showcasing slight differences in wording, pronunciation, or arrangement while conveying the same meaning.

Despite differences, many Sunni and Shia Muslims live peacefully together, sharing core beliefs. What you may call aggressive difference are primarily political not religious.

When did followers of Jesus as Catholics or protestants abandon theirs?


Everlasting life after earthly death or what? Do answer as you now represent who I have been chatting with.

That doesn't add depth at all because Muslim claims that is the word of God without change without alteration!

Your Quran also claims God is in charge of preserving the Quran!
How much so he stood idly by and watched as your "caliph" burnt other Qurans.

God must have been really perplexed!
It shows his incompetence!

Yeah as regards everlasting life.
In bible's core teachings there is eternal life with God!

You can't bring in Christianity because it is outrightly stated from the start that our book was divinely inspired by God.

We didn't claim some bullshit claim of God writing it himself.

And if the Quran is preexisting with God does that mean God also has two versions!

Perhaps he has protowarsh Quran and protohafs!

Who knows the numerous prototypes that must have been with God!

And once again the most knowledgeable men as regards the Quran that Mohammed left you in their stead all disagreed with the current version of the Quran!

That's saying something!

You don't have a basis for any discussion.

1. Were these different qiraat not revealed?

2. Did the so called burning eliminate or accommodate the different qiraat?

3. You all ignorantly refer to a pre-existing Quran and don't know what you say?

4. Were you pre-existing in the design of God before you were born into the world?

5. What is the difference between a revelation and an inspiration?

6. I thought your everlasting life means you will never die? Very funny lot.

MaxInDHouse:
•The endtime started with great signs and even your own people often refer to this period as "ìrọ̀lẹ́ ayé" which means they admitted it's the end time so stop deceiving yourself!

•Jehovah's Witnesses (the real disciples of Christ) don't participate in any form of war!

•Everlasting life after resurrection nah, àbí you have forgotten "ọjọ́ àgbéǹde àlìkìámà"
My friend humble yourself and learn!

Yeah right. How far can you run into a forest?

Jehovah that was not exactly used for God before the 12th century or so?

Where did Jesus say JW are the real disciples?
Some delusion.

If I get you right do you equate judgement day to the everlasting life? Of course judgement day will determine what type of after life on earth you will live but is not the actual after life.

Ohyoudidnt:
You don't have a basis for any discussion.

1. Were these different qiraat not revealed?

2. Did the so called burning eliminate or accommodate the different qiraat?

3. You all ignorantly refer to a pre-existing Quran and don't know what you say?

4. Were you pre-existing in the design of God before you were born into the world?

5. What is the difference between a revelation and an inspiration?

6. I thought your everlasting life means you will never die? Very funny lot.

It's you that is funny.

Your Quran asserts that the Quran is with God that's why your imams have always maintained that the Quran has not undergone any textual corruption because the original arguments posits that if the Quran undergoes any textual variation that undermines the assertion that the Quran is with God in the first place because of the question "how many Qurans then reside with God?"

The bible is a revelation from God written by divinely inspired men.

We don't claim the "Quran fell from heaven", written by God's own hands etc

1. If you say these different qiraat were revealed that shoots you in the leg.

Did Jibril reveal two verses one in the warsh when the christians and Jews are called worst of the infidels and the other in the hafs where they are called worst of the innocenct!

Either way I don't see how the conclusion of this argument plays out well for you.

It just negates all of your Quran's original claim and as a result it's nothing but a jumble of illiterate writers/composers copying from other religions without understanding what was written there.

Look at the obvious flaw in how the Egyptians built the pyramids!

Look at the next clause "Haman in Egypt"

Obviously Allah is daft and isn't aware of Haman being a Persian and revealed such a verse to the "best of mankind"

Ohyoudidnt:
You don't have a basis for any discussion.

1. Were these different qiraat not revealed?

2. Did the so called burning eliminate or accommodate the different qiraat?

3. You all ignorantly refer to a pre-existing Quran and don't know what you say?

4. Were you pre-existing in the design of God before you were born into the world?

5. What is the difference between a revelation and an inspiration?

6. I thought your everlasting life means you will never die? Very funny lot.

The textual variations of Qiraat might not negate the burning but it creates some unreconcilable differences.

In one version when you want to opt out of a fast perhaps after breaking it, you feed one person in another version you feed people!

Which is it?
Imagine getting to heaven and your Allah says your sins was not forgiven because you didn't feed "people" because you fed just one person but luckily for you people encompasses also the singular but for textual accuracy both don't alleviate the problem.

Allah could as well say he didn't send you to feed people that one was enough.

I can continue to point out this textual variations and how it affects the interpretation of the verse!

Ohyoudidnt:
Where did Jesus say JW are the real disciples?

So if the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is found written in the Bible which of the numerous religions claiming Christians won't say they are Jehovah's Witnesses?

Gabrielshow24:
It's you that is funny.

Your Quran asserts that the Quran is with God that's why your imams have always maintained that the Quran has not undergone any textual corruption because the original arguments posits that if the Quran undergoes any textual variation that undermines the assertion that the Quran is with God in the first place because of the question "how many Qurans then reside with God?"

The bible is a revelation from God written by divinely inspired men.

We don't claim the "Quran fell from heaven", written by God's own hands etc

1. If you say these different qiraat were revealed that shoots you in the leg.

Did Jibril reveal two verses one in the warsh when the christians and Jews are called worst of the infidels and the other in the hafs where they are called worst of the innocenct!

Either way I don't see how the conclusion of this argument plays out well for you.

It just negates all of your Quran's original claim and as a result it's nothing but a jumble of illiterate writers/composers copying from other religions without understanding what was written there.

Look at the obvious flaw in how the Egyptians built the pyramids!

Look at the next clause "Haman in Egypt"

Obviously Allah is daft and isn't aware of Haman being a Persian and revealed such a verse to the "best of mankind"

I see you you hardly know what you talk about.

It will be interesting to understand how you know and understand to derive your conclusion that the Quran is with Allah?


Yes Angel Jibril revealed the Quran in different ways and your being oblivious of this shows how little you know of what you say.

Do you mean that revelations in different ways for different dialects and convenience of people is too much for the almighty to do or rather too difficult or you find this overwhelming to believe that an unlettered prophet can grasp and transmit this?

Going on to your statement; please tell who the Bible was revealed to?

Gabrielshow24:
The textual variations of Qiraat might not negate the burning but it creates some unreconcilable differences.

In one version when you want to opt out of a fast perhaps after breaking it, you feed one person in another version you feed people!

Which is it?
Imagine getting to heaven and your Allah says your sins was not forgiven because you didn't feed "people" because you fed just one person but luckily for you people encompasses also the singular but for textual accuracy both don't alleviate the problem.

Allah could as well say he didn't send you to feed people that one was enough.

I can continue to point out this textual variations and how it affects the interpretation of the verse!

The Qirāʾāt variations in Quran 2:184 unless you refer to another emphasize the minimum obligation of expiation, which is to feed one poor person for each missed fast. The plural form, "ṭaʿāmu masākeen," encourages generosity by feeding multiple poor individuals. Both interpretations are valid and do not contradict each other. Modern exegesis, highlights the Quran's depth in addressing social and economic situations. Practical applications include fulfilling the requirement by feeding one person for each missed fast, or encouraging those with greater means to feed multiple individuals.

How is this a problem?
Allah forgives who he will however he will?

Ohyoudidnt:
I see you you hardly know what you talk about.

It will be interesting to understand how you know and understand to derive your conclusion that the Quran is with Allah?


Yes Angel Jibril revealed the Quran in different ways and your being oblivious of this shows how little you know of what you say.

Do you mean that revelations in different ways for different dialects and convenience of people is too much for the almighty to do or rather too difficult or you find this overwhelming to believe that an unlettered prophet can grasp and transmit this?

Going on to your statement; please tell who the Bible was revealed to?



The Qirāʾāt variations in Quran 2:184 unless you refer to another emphasize the minimum obligation of expiation, which is to feed one poor person for each missed fast. The plural form, "ṭaʿāmu masākeen," encourages generosity by feeding multiple poor individuals. Both interpretations are valid and do not contradict each other. Modern exegesis, highlights the Quran's depth in addressing social and economic situations. Practical applications include fulfilling the requirement by feeding one person for each missed fast, or encouraging those with greater means to feed multiple individuals.

How is this a problem?
Allah forgives who he will however he will?

Your argument is self defeating, your Quran makes a statement, clear statement if you don't mind me saying that Allah has a spiritual copy (of your book)with him in Heaven!

If there exists textual variations it self defeats the self preservation (Allah said he personally handles the preservation of your scripture unlike the Jews and christians book where its preservation was outsourced👀) of your scriptures which Allah said he will do.

And it also defeats the Quranic verse that states Allah's word can't be changed.

Hence Allah failed to properly preserve the Quran and allowed textual variants to exist as opposed to the one version propaganda widespread in your Islamic world.

Infact "Allah did a sloppy work"

That variation is still reconcilable what about the "worst of innocents" or the "worst of infidels" 👀

One version claims the Jews and christians are innocents another claims they are infidels which is it?🤧

And don't get me started on the Islamic dilemma!

Also to call out your lie, Angel Jubril didn't reveal two textual variations he revealed one the same hypocritical hands you point at the christians saying their book is corrupt; point them inwards and examine yourselves.


This amongst others just shows the Quran is a construct of illiterate men that didn't read the bible nor understand what was written there in but just merged hearsays, rumours, apocryphal texts and orthodox texts together!

Is it true that Muhammad
1. Slept with a dead woman.
2. Stole a woman's pant.
3. Slept with a 9 years old girl while he is 50years old.
4. Collected Ali s wife
5. Assassinated a poet who criticised him( she was killed on her sleeping bed .
6. He instructed muslima to marry 4 wives but he married 11 wives.
7. He died of poisoned meat 🥩 a slow poison
8.. according to quoran Muhammad is in hell awaiting judgement.
9. How did Hussain and Hassan died( Muhammad male great grand kids) an episode that caused a Shia sunni bloodbath.
10. The stone kissing, circulation of the black stone 7 times, wearing 1 piece cloth to perform rituals at mecca why are this hindu worship

Gabrielshow24:
Your argument is self defeating, your Quran makes a statement, clear statement if you don't mind me saying that Allah has a spiritual copy (of your book)with him in Heaven!

If there exists textual variations it self defeats the self preservation (Allah said he personally handles the preservation of your scripture unlike the Jews and christians book where its preservation was outsourced👀) of your scriptures which Allah said he will do.

And it also defeats the Quranic verse that states Allah's word can't be changed.

Hence Allah failed to properly preserve the Quran and allowed textual variants to exist as opposed to the one version propaganda widespread in your Islamic world.

Infact "Allah did a sloppy work"

That variation is still reconcilable what about the "worst of innocents" or the "worst of infidels" 👀

One version claims the Jews and christians are innocents another claims they are infidels which is it?🤧

And don't get me started on the Islamic dilemma!

Also to call out your lie, Angel Jubril didn't reveal two textual variations he revealed one the same hypocritical hands you point at the christians saying their book is corrupt; point them inwards and examine yourselves.


This amongst others just shows the Quran is a construct of illiterate men that didn't read the bible nor understand what was written there in but just merged hearsays, rumours, apocryphal texts and orthodox texts together!

Thank God for the English translation of this book, the so called hadiths is like 200 translation, imagine you need 200 books to translate one verse? Is it the errors and copy and paste.

Gabrielshow24:
Your argument is self defeating, your Quran makes a statement, clear statement if you don't mind me saying that Allah has a spiritual copy (of your book)with him in Heaven!

If there exists textual variations it self defeats the self preservation (Allah said he personally handles the preservation of your scripture unlike the Jews and christians book where its preservation was outsourced👀) of your scriptures which Allah said he will do.

And it also defeats the Quranic verse that states Allah's word can't be changed.

Hence Allah failed to properly preserve the Quran and allowed textual variants to exist as opposed to the one version propaganda widespread in your Islamic world.

Infact "Allah did a sloppy work"

That variation is still reconcilable what about the "worst of innocents" or the "worst of infidels" 👀

One version claims the Jews and christians are innocents another claims they are infidels which is it?🤧

And don't get me started on the Islamic dilemma!

Also to call out your lie, Angel Jubril didn't reveal two textual variations he revealed one the same hypocritical hands you point at the christians saying their book is corrupt; point them inwards and examine yourselves.


This amongst others just shows the Quran is a construct of illiterate men that didn't read the bible nor understand what was written there in but just merged hearsays, rumours, apocryphal texts and orthodox texts together!

Being garullous as expected without backing up any statement with clear proof.

These so called textual variants do not arise due to changes made during the transmission, copying, or editing process but are repetition of what is revealed. This is what your problem is. Perhaps you want to prove the qiraat were not revealed? Waste your time at it.

When you are ready to be specific perhaps you could be attended to.

Ohyoudidnt:
Being garullous as expected without backing up any statement with clear proof.

These so called textual variants do not arise due to changes made during the transmission, copying, or editing process but are repetition of what is revealed. This is what your problem is. Perhaps you want to prove the qiraat were not revealed? Waste your time at it.

When you are ready to be specific perhaps you could be attended to.

How then did they arise? 👀

Did you even consider the logical implications of what you wrote?

So how did "innocent" turn to "infidel" if it's being repeated in the first place as innocent?

I have not even brought other variations? 🤧

Allah tasked Jubril to deliver a vision "A" to Mohammed, Mohammed recited "A" then all of a sudden we see both "A" & "B"

The B supporters claim Mohammed recited "B" not "A"

A supporters claim otherwise.

Which are we to believe that Jubril revealed?
Evidently Jubril couldn't have revealed both
Hence the source of this malignant error is in the supposed "preservation" claimed by your people, rests upon God(Allah)

So now the conclusion is either Allah did a sloppy work maybe perhaps he slept or was too busy testing the fires of hell that one became two in his eyes or Allah never said such in the first place.

Now you are in a pickle!
This is just the tip of the iceberg!
Because of your inerrancy I will dive deeper into the cadavers of your religion!

Gabrielshow24:
I have not even brought other variations? 🤧

Allah tasked Jubril to deliver a vision "A" to Mohammed, Mohammed recited "A" then all of a sudden we see both "A" & "B"

The B supporters claim Mohammed recited "B" not "A"

A supporters claim otherwise.

Which are we to believe that Jubril revealed?
Evidently Jubril couldn't have revealed both
Hence the source of this malignant error is in the supposed "preservation" claimed by your people, rests upon God(Allah)

So now the conclusion is either Allah did a sloppy work maybe perhaps he slept or was too busy testing the fires of hell that one became two in his eyes or Allah never said such in the first place.

Now you are in a pickle!
This is just the tip of the iceberg!
Because of your inerrancy I will dive deeper into the cadavers of your religion!

Gabrielshow24:
How then did they arise? 👀

Did you even consider the logical implications of what you wrote?

So how did "innocent" turn to "infidel" if it's being repeated in the first place as innocent?

Narrated by 'Umar ibn al-Khattab:
"I heard Hisham ibn Hakim reciting Surah Al-Furqan in a way different from the way I recited it. And I was about to rush to him, but I gave him a chance to finish. Then I tied his garment around his neck and brought him to Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and said, 'I have heard this person reciting Surah Al-Furqan in a way different from the way you taught me to recite it.' The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, 'Release him. Recite, O Hisham.' So he recited in the way I heard him recite. The Prophet (peace be upon him) then said, 'It was revealed in this way.' And then he (the Prophet) said to me, 'Recite, O 'Umar.' So I recited it, and he (the Prophet) said, 'It was revealed in this way. The Quran has been revealed in seven Ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easy for you.'" (Sahih al-Bukhari, Muslim)


The linguistic diversity among Arab tribes stems from a variety of factors, including historical interactions, geographical influences, phonetic variations, morphological differences, syntactic structures, semantic shifts, and cultural significance. These elements all contribute to a [b]complex yet cohesive [/b]framework within the Arabic language.

The Qur'an's seven Ahruf (modes) demonstrate its complexity and cohesion, embracing linguistic diversity, promoting unity, and maintaining its divine message. These modes accommodate the linguistic nuances of Arab tribes, ensuring the Qur'an's message is accessible to all. The Ahruf also facilitates memorizing and understanding, making it easier for people with varying linguistic abilities to memorize and recite the Qur'an. This complexity highlights the Qur'an's divine precision and its ability to adapt to human diversity while preserving its unified essence. The revelation in multiple Ahruf reinforces the unity of the Muslim Ummah, despite differences in language or culture.

MaxInDHouse:
•The endtime started with great signs and even your own people often refer to this period as "ìrọ̀lẹ́ ayé" which means they admitted it's the end time so stop deceiving yourself!

•Jehovah's Witnesses (the real disciples of Christ) don't participate in any form of war!

•Everlasting life after resurrection nah, àbí you have forgotten "ọjọ́ àgbéǹde àlìkìámà"
My friend humble yourself and learn!

JW - the real disciple of Christ as a Christian

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JW - the real disciple of Christ as a Christian

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I followed your convo with the islamic guy, I like it

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