₦airaland Forum

datola:
This precedence created by Bishop Oyedepo of retiring co-founder will change patsors mindset about serving

Wait was he the co-foundeder?

kingphilip:
Until we grow fond of Jesus and not man, we will keep on having this kind of issue.

Are you going to Shiloh because of an individual or because you want to experience God the more?

Mind you I am not a member of Winners and i can't remember ever attending their programs so don't see it from a place of being a hater of Bishop Abioye.

Though I have seen snippet of his teachings and like them and his personality.

You won't understand if you don't attend shiloh.

PussyOdour:
Ah MadamVanessa, you were de hate Yoruba with everything, still de follow Yoruba man church . Abi you're always bittered and toxic in politics, but have a difference view in religion.

Concerning the topic, I observed that too. Omò church na family business, the earlier we know this , the better for all of us. If you like go and be a slave for a pastor, when the time comes you'll be ditched.

I don die 😂 😂 😂 see name 😂😂😂😂

This has been the feeling of most members on social media. Even if it's about succession,the bishop should have stated he wants his son,but still leave Abioye to continue in the ministry.
Shiloh first night was u unlike the others.

Aniluvreal:



They have used that one and throw away. Papa retired his deputy that he's way older than but failed to retire himself.

He owns the business and enterprise,so why should a Proprietor resign?

abioye made a very big mistake. should have left earlier

ChiefS:
The reason people are complaining is that Bishop Abioye served winners almost all his adult life. At 63 years where do you want him to start from. 63 years is still young in ministry to retire but almost late to start afresh

Am not in support of his retirement and because am an insider in the ministry, I cannot not tell you the full details for the action , both Oyedepo and Abioye know me by my name and I love them, but God who call Abraham at 75 years and call Moses at 80 years and both men still became very successful, I pray same God will make Abioye very successful and if he open his ministry branch in Lagos or Canada am going to be one of the first members

1link:
They won't miss Jesus,talk about jesus or even worship God. Rather they are worshipping and salivating over the absence of a mere mortal,a scam and God of man.

Na bitterness go kill you last last the way you are going. So because u love Jesus, you should not miss the person you see. Even the apostles love themselves and protect themselves. Does that mean you don't love Jesus

MadamVanessa:
I deeply felt the absence of Pastor Abioye at this year's Shiloh. I thought despite being retired , he would still be present, but it was so shocking that he was not there.

Watching the event on TV yesterday, I couldn't help but feel a strong sense of longing. I've grown to admire and appreciate Pastor Abioye greatly, and his absence was deeply felt by me yesterday. I am not a Winners, but honestly I love BISHOP ABIOYE so much .

Women with worshipping Pastor are 5 & 6.
You didn't talk about how the Shiloh revived or impacted your life spiritually yet you were disconnected cos you missed pastor Abioye

aAK1:
abioye made a very big mistake. should have left earlier

I don't think so

We humans always judge from our limited perception

We think having a big church makes us great before God Almighty

You will be surprised that Bishop Abioye is considered much greater before God Almighty

Big church, Big ministry, Great wealth etc is considered amongst Men as great achievements

But before God those things doesn't really matter

That's why Christ said in the Bible that in judgement many will say I did mighty things in His Name

But He will tell them depart from me you workers of Iniquity


What is highly of Great value before God is in Galatians 5 vs 22; fruit of the spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, goodness, gentleness, Faith, meekness against this there's no law

If Christians model there life's according to Galatians 5 vs 22, our world will be a better place

We will reflect the virtues of Christ more to a dark world.

Okechinwadike:
didn't you see okocha as a pundit or spectator? That's what she is saying

Excellent point. But not in the field.

We should learn how to say goodbye

Bishop Abioye is missing this event for the very first time in it's 25 years history.

Even Bishop Aremu is absent too.....

The relationship is definitely strained.

Pastors Eneche and Ibiyeome were very wise to have left early and start their own ministry now the two of them have the biggest church auditoriums in Nigeria.

Bishop Abioye was too loyal......God bless that man.

MadamVanessa:



On what ground do you think that I hate the Yorubas, or it's just coming from your own figment of imagination?

People like him are tribalistic...he will always misconstrue any negative comment of present government as hate against yoruba nation

Bobby4090:
Abioye was the only one that gave Winners Chapel a positive look outside. Now he's gone, Oyedepo and his family Plc have taken over fully. Yesterday it's was Steve Ogah his Son in law coordinating. Then Bishop Oyedepo himself preached. This morning it was Pastor David Oyedepo jnr. preaching and later mummy Faith Oyedepo. And I said what a sad scenario iam witnessing. If after 40 yrs all the leadership you can boast of is just you and your family members.

Family business 101

lexy2014:
what is kulikuli?

where is the kulikuli and the question?

You have started again ooo

MadamVanessa:
I deeply felt the absence of Pastor Abioye at this year's Shiloh. I thought despite being retired , he would still be present, but it was so shocking that he was not there.

Watching the event on TV yesterday, I couldn't help but feel a strong sense of longing. I've grown to admire and appreciate Pastor Abioye greatly, and his absence was deeply felt by me yesterday. I am not a Winners, but honestly I love BISHOP ABIOYE so much .

What a shame

Women n frivolities....They attend Church programmes to see men of God instead of God of men.

Only God will deliver these gender

lexy2014:
what would have his presence done for you?

They don't seek God anymore in our churches, they seek mere men....smh

Aniluvreal:



They have used that one and throw away. Papa retired his deputy that he's way older than but failed to retire himself. ; D

Don't Address Him as This One.

But wait OOO that Papa Oyedepo Dey smart opo. Papa old still at work , Retires Abioye.

Is that what God Told Him..


Men of Men

No matter what's going on, i sincerely hope none of the Bishops speak or preach against each other. They should just teach Christ and the scriptures wherever they are

Most christians now worship mere mortals, what a shame.

I stopped worshipping in the church a while ago because I realized I prefer the teachers, who are always the 2nd in command of all the churches. My spirit couldn't just take the whole random testimony and words coming out of the mouths. With the teachers I was engaged with the Bible whole heartly and could go back home and continue studying.

Let those who have faith go and give the man of God everything they sweat for this year.

MadamVanessa:
I deeply felt the absence of Pastor Abioye at this year's Shiloh. I thought despite being retired , he would still be present, but it was so shocking that he was not there.

Watching the event on TV yesterday, I couldn't help but feel a strong sense of longing. I've grown to admire and appreciate Pastor Abioye greatly, and his absence was deeply felt by me yesterday. I am not a Winners, but honestly I love BISHOP ABIOYE so much .

It's bad
You are supposed to grow to admire Jesus and God and not a man.
If the absence of a man is felt in any religious gathering, I feel there is a problem somewhere.
It is the absence of God that should be felt more if at all it's even possible in any gathering based on the name of Jesus.
As long as God is there, no absence should be felt. Instead, in the presence of God there is fullness of Joy

Arrowhead71:
Am not in support of his retirement and because am an insider in the ministry, I cannot not tell you the full details for the action , both Oyedepo and Abioye know me by my name and I love them, but God who call Abraham at 75 years and call Moses at 80 years and both men still became very successful, I pray same God will make Abioye very successful and if he open his ministry branch in Lagos or Canada am going to be one of the first members

Abraham lived for 175 years so he still lived another 100 years after receiving his call at 75 years. Who lives for that long in our dispensation? I know Bishop Abioye is made and will succeed in whatever he begins now but you know the limitations of age.

Kukutente23:
Soldier go, soldier come barracks remain

Besides, since Abioye don dey pray for you since for shiloh, you never get husband. Why you com think say na this year him prayer go work?

Never mind, I have proposed to madam Vanessa, we are going to get married next year.

AngelicBeing:
You have started again ooo

what have you started again ooo?

what is kulikuli?

where is the kulikuli and the question?

Aniluvreal:



They have used that one and throw away. Papa retired his deputy that he's way older than but failed to retire himself.

Because he is the one God called for the assignment

lexy2014:
what have you started again ooo?

what is kulikuli?

where is the kulikuli and the question?

What kind of ogbono-pepper soup question is this, Huh

Built2last:
Forget the photo Ops at the retirement ceremony.

All is not well.


He was not there because he was not invited.

Bishop Abioye is vibrant and should have not been let go. He still has a lot to offer His generation

The young ministers conference he started won't sit well in some quarters.


Take it to the bank. The relationship is strained and things will never be the same

U mean he didn't attend this year Shiloh?but i saw somebody looking like him sitting before a woman that sat before david oyedope... please tell me,did he not attend the church at all?

AngelicBeing:
What kind of ogbono-pepper soup question is this, Huh

What kind of ogbono-pepper soup question that is this?

what have you started again ooo?

what is kulikuli?

where is the kulikuli and the question?

Aniluvreal:



They have used that one and throw away. Papa retired his deputy that he's way older than but failed to retire himself.

That shows Winners like other churches are business enterprise !!

AntiChristian:


Hmmm! Less emolument! Less remuneration! Less wages! Less tithes collection! Less extortion!

I wonder why many go to the same place for same request till thy kingdom come!

January - Month of Grace - Una no see grace till February come!
February - Month of Divine intervention - Dollar go up - Garri don cost! How this one come be intervention wey divine?
March - Month of Sacrifice - I don't think i can sacrifice this transport fare any longer! Make i use leg waka small. Sacrifice no go kill una...

April is your month of Heavenly Grace 😆