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usmanpogo:
The Monroe doctrine is one of the basic foreign US policies every geopolitical analyst knows, I'm surprised you of all people have no idea about this doctrine.

Just Google search Monroe Doctrine and thank me later. The policy is about 200 years now.

200 years? Habba. There is no shame if I don't know about that 😂😂

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usmanpogo:
The Monroe doctrine is one of the basic foreign US policies every geopolitical analyst knows, I'm surprised you of all people have no idea about this doctrine.

Just Google search Monroe Doctrine and thank me later. The policy is about 200 years now.

A doctrine is it binding?? This is a mere forgien policy.

Nigeria has a foreign policy which states that Africa is the center piece of its foreign policy, Nigeria enforced this policy when they broke foreign relations with France over nuclear weapons testing in the Sahara.

The US have no legal ground to stop any country on its border from associating with any country. Countries (bigger countries) will always have influence over others especially those close to its borders.

There's nothing stopping Mexico from having a military alliance with let say Russia. All the Monroe Doctrine is saying that the US sees the western hemisphere as it sphere of influence and any other country trying to errode that influence such act would be seen as hostile to the US.
there's nothing sacrilegious about that.There's nothing stopping Mexico from forging its own destiny.

China sees South China Sea and its vast island as its sphere of influence, Russia sees the former Soviet Union nations as part of its sphere of influence

Having influence over someone is not the same as having dominion or rulership over the person.

China has influence over North Korea, XI doesn't control Kim, same way the US have influence over the Jewish state of Israel.

Gbadebo19:
First point of correction. It is impossible to think logically and spiritually. Spirituality deprives you of common sense. Know that and know peace.
I don't think there is anything left to haggle.
You might come back spewing nonsense, but like I have said several times, rational thinking is a luxury that 95 percent of people actually do not have but THINK they do.
According to a scientific research, only 5% of the world population think, 15% THINK THEY ARE THINKING while the remaining 80% do not think at all.
Shalom.

Spiritual means focusing on the unseen, not the seen

Spirituality involves the recognition of a feeling or sense or belief that there is something greater than myself, something more to being human than sensory experience

Romans 8:6-8 describes the carnal mind as a mind that is dominated by selfishness, self-will, and self-seeking

Which is just your character

I gave you good point in the other post which you could not refute that knocked you out from your wild thoughts

Am only surprised that you have stopped your former abusive character you had before

But it still an improvement

So run along..............

But improve more next time on how you think so you can pass a fair judgement when two people fight.

usmanpogo:
It's impossible for Mexico to enter a military alliance with Russia due to the Monroe doctrine and the Roosevelt corollary to the Monroe's doctrine.

The doctrine puts all of the western hemisphere under the sphere of the US influence.

"""Theodore Roosevelt added the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine in 1904, which stated that in cases of flagrant and chronic wrongdoing by a Latin American country, the United States could intervene in that country’s internal affairs""""

Doctrines laws are meant to be broken

You can see that in Cuba, Venezuela criss

Gbadebo19:
200 years? Habba. There is no shame if I don't know about that 😂😂

That's not the point bro, it has been sited Everytime, one minute the doctrine is not binding the next minute, the US law makers are sighting it as precedence. It has been denounced, reinstated and reinterpreted. I was merely sighting it as a reason Mexico can't enter into a military alliance with Russia.

obedience4:
A doctrine is it binding?? This is a mere forgien policy.

Nigeria has a foreign policy which states that Africa is the center piece of its foreign policy, Nigeria enforced this policy when they broke foreign relations with France over nuclear weapons testing in the Sahara.

The US have no legal ground to stop any country on its border from associating with any country. Countries (bigger countries) will always have influence over others especially those close to its borders.

There's nothing stopping Mexico from having a military alliance with let say Russia. All the Monroe Doctrine is saying that the US sees the western hemisphere as it sphere of influence and any other country trying to errode that influence such act would be seen as hostile to the US.
there's nothing sacrilegious about that.There's nothing stopping Mexico from forging its own destiny.

China sees South China Sea and its vast island as its sphere of influence, Russia sees the former Soviet Union nations as part of its sphere of influence

Having influence over someone is not the same as having dominion or rulership over the person.

China has influence over North Korea, XI doesn't control Kim, same way the US have influence over the Jewish state of Israel.

You've a way of dancing around with words and trying to evade crux or the focus in every argument, the example you sighted above bears no similarities with the conversation we are having.

"""The problem is that the Monroe Doctrine has been overused and misunderstood to the point of meaninglessness; it is one of those phrases, like globalization or neoliberalism, that means all things to all people. Perceived moves by Beijing in the region? Nicolás Maduro’s regime cozying up to Moscow? Conservatives reflexively howl that the Monroe Doctrine has been breached. Liberals criticize ever-abiding U.S. imperialism. The result is an overriding legacy of confusion."""' Adapted from American Quarterly


"""''While the original doctrine was about global powers staying out of Latin American affairs, now Washington—far more global a power in 1904 than 1823—was now proclaiming its right to go in. Over the next two decades, American troops landed in the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Nicaragua, among other countries. The gloves were off. """

[b] 🇷🇺 An altar boy from Udmurtia, together with his comrades, saved more than 2 thousand (!) wounded in the North Military District.

RT spoke with Grigory Ilchenko, call sign Palamas (in honor of Saint Gregory Palamas). The hero said that he went to fight after the murder of Darya Dugina:

"Since 2014, I understood what was happening in Ukraine, their true face. But when they blew up Dugina, I took it as something personal. Although I didn't know her personally, I am close to the views of her father, Alexander Dugin - I read his works."

In September 2022, Grigory was already in the SVO. He immediately found himself in the thick of it — in the battles for Artemovsk. At first he was an assault trooper, then a rifleman-medic. He says that the VSSU men were hunting our military medics:

"On Christmas 2023, at exactly 12 midnight, they started shelling our medical unit. They knew for sure that there were medics there. There were eight shots from a tank. And each time they landed, it got closer and closer. The guys and I thought: well, the next one is definitely ours. And then everything went quiet. It really was Christmas."
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[b]As Grigory tells it, he and his fellow soldiers (seven people) carried more than 2,000 wounded from the battlefield in six months. But two incidents were most memorable. The first was when they were pulling a stalled "loaf" on a cable. The cable broke, they were moving very slowly. This saved them. At the moment of the HIMARS missile strike, they were not at the landing site. One of the wounded, whom Grigory carried out, was named after his mother - Svetlana.

The second case was when a soldier was taken away with a piece of shrapnel in his neck:

"The car was shaking, and I was trying to give him an IV drip while driving. He was a Muslim. He looked at me for a long time. And he said: "I never thought that a Christian would save me. Maybe I should change my faith?" I said to him: "Oh well, we'll fight some more."

In the spring of 2023, Palama had to end his service due to progressive deterioration of his vision. The Defenders of the Fatherland Foundation helped him obtain a combat veteran certificate.
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HurricaneLanter:
In Ukraine, they want to introduce annual military contracts for men aged 18 to 25 with “motivational bonuses.”

The local portal Telegraf writes about this, citing a source close to the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Syrsky.

According to him, those who sign will be sent to combat brigades . In exchange, they will be given affordable loans and longer vacations.

Dead men don't go on vacations

usmanpogo:
You've a way of dancing around with words and trying to evade crux or the focus in every argument, the example you sighted above bears no similarities with the conversation we are having.

"""The problem is that the Monroe Doctrine has been overused and misunderstood to the point of meaninglessness; it is one of those phrases, like globalization or neoliberalism, that means all things to all people. Perceived moves by Beijing in the region? Nicolás Maduro’s regime cozying up to Moscow? Conservatives reflexively howl that the Monroe Doctrine has been breached. Liberals criticize ever-abiding U.S. imperialism. The result is an overriding legacy of confusion."""' Adapted from American Quarterly


"""''While the original doctrine was about global powers staying out of Latin American affairs, now Washington—far more global a power in 1904 than 1823—was now proclaiming its right to go in. Over the next two decades, American troops landed in the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Nicaragua, among other countries. The gloves were off. """

Bro all this were military interventions.. civil wars ,coups counter counter coups, Lawlessness were the reason for US military intervention.

What am trying to say is that the US has no right forgien policy or not to stop any country from joining any alliance.

usmanpogo:
That's not the point bro, it has been sited Everytime, one minute the doctrine is not binding the next minute, the US law makers are sighting it as precedence. It has been denounced, reinstated and reinterpreted. I was merely sighting it as a reason Mexico can't enter into a military alliance with Russia.

I just had a brief skimming of it and I don't really see an issue with the denounced, reinstated and reinterpreted as you say.
Why? I have examined a few instances where the USA was required to act but they didn't. One of the instances was when it involved Great Britain and when the US was embroiled in a civil war. While the civil war situation is justifiable, I wouldn't know why they failed to act when it involved Great Britain. So, baring the involvement of Great Britain, I don't see a situation of it being denounced. If there is no denouncement, then there is no need to talk about a reinstatement.
Lastly, about the reinterpretation, I also don't see anything wrong because the few instances I have come about while reading it were when Latin American countries tried to hide behind it to circumvent and refuse to pay up their international debts which the US clearly made it clear that the Monroe doctrine would not apply and that force by European countries would be allowed in such instances. To me, that is justifiable.
If you have other instances, you can please share.

HurricaneLanter:
[b] 🇷🇺 An altar boy from Udmurtia, together with his comrades, saved more than 2 thousand (!) wounded in the North Military District.

RT spoke with Grigory Ilchenko, call sign Palamas (in honor of Saint Gregory Palamas). The hero said that he went to fight after the murder of Darya Dugina:

"Since 2014, I understood what was happening in Ukraine, their true face. But when they blew up Dugina, I took it as something personal. Although I didn't know her personally, I am close to the views of her father, Alexander Dugin - I read his works."

In September 2022, Grigory was already in the SVO. He immediately found himself in the thick of it — in the battles for Artemovsk. At first he was an assault trooper, then a rifleman-medic. He says that the VSSU men were hunting our military medics:

"On Christmas 2023, at exactly 12 midnight, they started shelling our medical unit. They knew for sure that there were medics there. There were eight shots from a tank. And each time they landed, it got closer and closer. The guys and I thought: well, the next one is definitely ours. And then everything went quiet. It really was Christmas."
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Beautiful

Kingsnairaland:
Spiritual means focusing on the unseen, not the seen

Spirituality involves the recognition of a feeling or sense or belief that there is something greater than myself, something more to being human than sensory experience

Romans 8:6-8 describes the carnal mind as a mind that is dominated by selfishness, self-will, and self-seeking

Which is just your character

I gave you good point in the other post which you could not refute that knocked you out from your wild thoughts

Am only surprised that you have stopped your former abusive character you had before

But it still an improvement

So run along..............

But improve more next time on how you think so you can pass a fair judgement when two people fight.

The day you prove to me that God actually exists with cogent evidence is the day I will begin to take you seriously. Mind you, don't use the first cause argument for me as that first cause can be anything, an alien, a UFO or whatever.
And lastly, if I insulted anybody here, it was a reaction to a provocation or in very very rare circumstances, a misunderstanding of the intention of the other party, so it is not a matter of me changing and I am not sorry.

British propaganda. This is fake news because Ukraine never existed during the USSR so automatically they never had nuclear weapon, instead it was the USSR.
Russia is the legitimate successor State of the Defunct Union. BBC will only deceive dumb and stupid people.

obedience4:
Bro all this were military interventions.. civil wars ,coups counter counter coups, Lawlessness were the reason for US military intervention.

What am trying to say is that the US has no right forgien policy or not to stop any country from joining any alliance.

If those countries were truly sovereign then the US interventions would not be necessary, because those were internal affairs of those countries.

Again bro, the US would show alot of resistance just like the Russians if Mexico tries to enter an alliance with the Russians, you don't expect them to just let it happen.

Gbadebo19:
I just had a brief skimming of it and I don't really see an issue with the denounced, reinstated and reinterpreted as you say.
Why? I have examined a few instances where the USA was required to act but they didn't. One of the instances was when it involved Great Britain and when the US was embroiled in a civil war. While the civil war situation is justifiable, I wouldn't know why they failed to act when it involved Great Britain. So, baring the involvement of Great Britain, I don't see a situation of it being denounced. If there is no denouncement, then there is no need to talk about a reinstatement.
Lastly, about the reinterpretation, I also don't see anything wrong because the few instances I have come about while reading it were when Latin American countries tried to hide behind it to circumvent and refuse to pay up their international debts which the US clearly made it clear that the Monroe doctrine would not apply and that force by European countries would be allowed in such instances. To me, that is justifiable.
If you have other instances, you can please share.

I believe the two instances you were implying to above are

1. When the US did nothing about the British when they took the Falklands from Argentina, the US didn't enact the Doctrine for two reasons the British were allies and also at that time they had the civil war, also there were no match for the British at that time.




2. The second instance you were implying to in your second statement was the Venezuela blockade of 1902
Germany, France and the British blockaded Venezuela because the government defaulted on it debt obligations, Castro insisted on paying the debts but the Germans had plans to use this as an excuse to annex some part of Venezuela.
That was the instance that ended the Roosevelt corollary, again, the corollary was a reinterpretation of the Monroe doctrine.

One USA black dude that was formally held captive by the deep state mental slavery gave a testimony on how he became free from them and how he noticed their patterns

Here is the voice message transcribed

Hmm character defamation, it's a simple simple formula they've been using since the beginning of time.
If they can't take your life, they will take your reputation.

Let me
Give you guys some insight on how the left-wing media propaganda machine assassinates an individual's character.

Now most of us would think that they're looking to pin an individual on cases that are solid in order for that person to actually be convicted and go to prison, like in the case of Donald Trump, right?
It's you know he did these things and we want to get him in prison. In reality, they look to pin cases on you that are going to appeal to public opinion.
They're looking to assassinate your character in the eyes of the public. They don't care to get you in prison if they could, excellent, beautiful, right? Chef's kiss.

But what they're looking to do is to create a narrative. So most of us have seen, you know, the other side, the far leftist, the ones who are still clinging onto the delusion.
We see these messages about convicted felon, he's a convicted felon, convicted felon, right? And these people fail to realize that this is a man who's still walking around without an F on his report card.
He does not have a felony on his rap sheet, but yet he has been placed in trial for a multitude of cases that are pinned on him, and all the mass media cares about is that he has those cases.

It's the same as when somebody gets a RAPE charge. They don't need you to be convicted, and to be put in prison.
They just need for the public to believe that this thing is on you. So you have people who have allegations galore, a multitude of allegations, and the purpose of those allegations is to defame your character, as simple as that.

When they realize they cannot assassinate the person themselves, literally deleting you, then they look to assassinate your character.
And I believe it's actually far more powerful, because they don't turn you into a martyr.

If they took your life, they turn you into a martyr, but when they do it to your character, we see what's been happening in the last nine to ten years with Donald J. Trump, a man who's once loved by the media, all of a sudden becomes public enemy number one, to the point where even back in 2015, I didn't like him, and I didn't know why.

My girl, even we had a conversation today, she said, I don't like him, and she's European, and it's like, I don't like him either.
I had no idea why. We had no business with the dude, yet. I don't like him, yet, because that was social engineering.

It was to make sure that you perceive this individual as whatever they wanna pin him out to be.

It's got so crazy that yesterday, I did a Google search, and I'm telling you, I did not plan this out. This was not some intention. I didn't hear from anywhere.

I typed in fascists,
just to see what popped up.
There's something in my intuition which is telling me, uh, you better look this up.
I typed in just the word fascist.

The first thing that pops up is a video by PBS, hmm, with Donald J. Trump, and right under this description that says fascism is a far-right, and I'm like, excuse me... This answer is totally wrong.

I also typed in the name of an interesting character, one of the most controversial figures. I don't even know if I can say his name on here without the video getting taken down, so let's just say he had an island where they were doing, uh, incomprehensible things to people, and a lot of celebrities connected to it.

I typed that man's name in, I went to Google Images, and what do you know, besides this man standing next to Donald J. Trump, and they put four pictures of these guys together, but it was the same night, at the same event. Now, where have the pictures gone with Bill Gates?

Where have the pictures gone with Oprah Winfrey? The multitudes of pictures they took together with this individual.

Hmm, character defamation, it's a simple, simple formula they've been using since the beginning of time. If they can't take your life, they will take your reputation.

.... Beautiful freedom he got and the rest of the world is waking up

Glory

usmanpogo:
If those countries were truly sovereign then the US interventions would not be necessary, because those were internal affairs of those countries.

Again bro, the US would show alot of resistance just like the Russians if Mexico tries to enter an alliance with the Russians, you don't expect them to just let it happen.

Well, I see this as a matter of brains rather than force. What the Russians are trying to achieve by force is what the US achieved simply by diplomacy through the Monroe doctrine. The Soviets or Russia should have been able to achieve same if they were truly as powerful in Europe as their friends here want us to believe. It boils down to Russia not being an intelligent nation.
What may seem as a violation of this Monroe doctrine I believe would not have occured if not for the world wars because prior to the world wars, I am fairly certain that the US obeyed the Monroe doctrine as far as meddling in European affairs was concerned.
Therefore, I do not see the US has an imperialist nation but as a nation that had to act due to necessity taking into cognizance that it had grown or was at least growing to become a world power as at then.

usmanpogo:
I believe the two instances you were implying to above are

1. When the US did nothing about the British when they took the Falklands from Argentina, the US didn't enact the Doctrine for two reasons the British were allies and also at that time they had the civil war, also there were no match for the British at that time.




2. The second instance you were implying to in your second statement was the Venezuela blockade of 1902
Germany, France and the British blockaded Venezuela because the government defaulted on it debt obligations, Castro insisted on paying the debts but the Germans had plans to use this as an excuse to annex some part of Venezuela.
That was the instance that ended the Roosevelt corollary, again, the corollary was a reinterpretation of the Monroe doctrine.

You got me right. What I am trying to assert is that these actions do not point to an unjust reinterpretation or denouncement as you stated earlier.

usmanpogo:
I believe the two instances you were implying to above are

1. When the US did nothing about the British when they took the Falklands from Argentina, the US didn't enact the Doctrine for two reasons the British were allies and also at that time they had the civil war, also there were no match for the British at that time.




2. The second instance you were implying to in your second statement was the Venezuela blockade of 1902
Germany, France and the British blockaded Venezuela because the government defaulted on it debt obligations, Castro insisted on paying the debts but the Germans had plans to use this as an excuse to annex some part of Venezuela.
That was the instance that ended the Roosevelt corollary, again, the corollary was a reinterpretation of the Monroe doctrine.

I am not fairly certain about your second paragraph. I have read about the blockade but I never saw anywhere it was stated that Castro insisted on paying the debts. All I read was that Venezuela wanted to use the Roosevelt corollary as an excuse to end the blockade WHICH THE US DID NOT ALLOW.