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He's either ignorant or being mischievous. I say that going by his recent activity where he went to town with a FALSE story that Wike/FCTA revoked ownership of land "OWNED" by a construction company belonging to a late Military Man. This is false because the land actually belongs to the government. I will explain in layman's terms so that the gullible can clearly understand.

(1) The land fully belongs to the government not to the construction company in question. Lawyersarena.com describes a Temporary Right of Occupancy as thus, "A temporary right of occupancy as its title implies is essentially limited or transient in nature it amounts to no more than a bare licence to occupy land on a temporary and sometimes short term basis and generally confers no legal estate in the grantee of such a right".

Now it's clear that the government gave that construction company a Temporary Right of Occupancy in 1984. And as we can now understand, this permit only allows them to use the place TEMPORARILY. The government does that a lot of times. Construction companies are usually given land by government to use for their yard and other construction activities. Especially when they are handling a job for government . It doesn't make them owners of such lands.

(2) Because the government didn't recover the place for decades doesn't mean that a Temporary permit to use the place has translated to a Permanent Right of Occupancy or Certificate of Occupancy. And because they decided to build some houses and live on government land for which they only had a permit to occupy TEMPORARILY doesn't make the land theirs.

(3) The people recently applied to government to give them a Permanent Right of Occupancy, meaning they now wanted to buy the land from government. Government agreed 20 months ago and asked them to pay some money amounting to about N56 million. They didn't pay the money for 20 months (almost two years). So how are they the owners of the land? If my tenant has been living in my property for many decades and expresses interest to buy the property and own it permanently but fails to pay the money I asked him to pay to own the place, is he the owner of the property? Or am I not at liberty to sell the place to someone else who is ready and able to pay me?

(4) There is a trending video of VeryDarkMan calling on the Military to stop the FCT from recovering the land. This is a treasonable act. His calling on the Military to unlawfully stop the government from is Lawful operations is the height of stupidity and ignorance. He's only lucky that this is Nigeria where people get away with doing or saying treasonable things.

Abeg go front

Just leave the boy.

The thing wey no lost that he has been looking for, hope he finds it

FourQu:
This op is not normal. This is the same person that created a thread jubilating that dangote refinery will reduce petrol pump price

Today what is the reality of that claim 🤔

This same confused op 😕

please counter what I wrote with facts not the usual misguided sentiments.

Eteka1:
please counter what I wrote with facts not the usual misguided sentiments.

Exactly what I'm saying. You're just a rabble rouser. Facts would stare at anyone who goes through your threads history for 5 minutes

FourQu:
I know you're not the only person standing on shakey grounds, do you know some deluded people are still standing on a stolen useless mandate?

Pick a spot and stand till thy kingdom come you hear

you have said nothing

Eteka1:
please counter what I wrote with facts not the usual misguided sentiments.

you got those documents from Lere who happened to be media aid to Wike. Copy Lere explanation here. You simply gave half information. Here is the simple explanation. For 36 years, they have Temporary R of O. In 2020, they applied for Statutory R of O which they were granted in 2023 which made then owner of it Statutory. They were to pay ground rent from 2020 which amount to 40m plus, they paid 10m already. So wike has no right to revoke any land because of no payment of ground rent. When someone fail in payment of ground rent, you charge him for penal rent and if fail, you charge him to court so court can force him to pay. Revocation can only happen when it's over riding public interest. He revoke and reallocated to himself or friend that is abuse of power. Have you ever heard in lagos that government revoke plot because of annual landuse charge? Please stop supporting injustice.

Saao:
you got those documents from Lere who happened to be media aid to Wike. Copy Lere explanation here. You simply gave half information. Here is the simple explanation. For 36 years, they have Temporary R of O. In 2020, they applied for Statutory R of O which they were granted in 2023 which made then owner of it Statutory. They were to pay ground rent from 2020 which amount to 40m plus, they paid 10m already. So wike has no right to revoke any land because of no payment of ground rent. When someone fail in payment of ground rent, you charge him for penal rent and if fail, you charge him to court so court can force him to pay. Revocation can only happen when it's over riding public interest. He revoke and reallocated to himself or friend that is abuse of power. Have you ever heard in lagos that government revoke plot because of annual landuse charge? Please stop supporting injustice.

please let us see the documents you claim was issued to them(Certificate of Occupancy or Permanent Right of Occupancy). The fact is that they applied for the Permanent Right of Occupancy and the application was approved based on clear terms and conditions (as shown in the letters posted above). They couldn't meet the terms and conditions. So at what point did the land belong to them ?

Eteka1:
please let us see the documents (Certificate of Occupancy or Permanent Right of Occupancy). They applied for the Permanent Right of Occupancy and the application was approved based on clear terms and conditions which they couldn't meet. How on earth could they have been issued a Permanent Right of Occupancy? Please get your facts right.

bro as I said, every Right of Occupation comes with the condition of annual payment of ground rent. When you failed, Government will charge you for penal rent not revocation. You will understand it more if you have land in Abuja, I have land in Abuja. Even Lere Olayinka confirmed this fact of then granted Statutory right of O so that alone stood as fact. R of o/c of o are the same. Just like governor's consent and c of o are the same in lagos. Ground rent in Abuja, landuse charge in lagos are the same.

Saao:
bro as I said, every Right of Occupation comes with the condition of annual payment of ground rent. When you failed, Government will charge you for penal rent not revocation. You will understand it more if you have land in Abuja, I have land in Abuja. Even Lere Olayinka confirmed this fact of then granted Statutory right of O so that alone stood as fact. R of o/c of o are the same. Just like governor's consent and c of o are the same in lagos. Ground rent in Abuja, landuse charge in lagos are the same.

Let me quote Lere Olayinka before people are misled by your comment;


“A construction company, Paulosa Nigeria Limited occupied the land as a temporary office, under a Temporary Right of Occupancy arrangement granted in 1984 (40 years ago). For 36 years, the company occupied the land, built permanent structures on it, and rented them out without any approval from the government.

“On November 18, 2020, after occupying the land for 36 years without approval, Paulosa Nigeria Limited applied to the then Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, for the conversion of the Temporary Right of Occupancy to a Statutory Right of Occupancy.

“On February 1, 2023, approval was granted to Paulosa Nigeria Limited for a Statutory Right of Occupancy, subject to certain terms and conditions. Some of the terms and conditions are payment of Ground Rent Per Square Meter Per Annum, which was N50K/m² from 2022 to 2023, amounting to N2,332,143; payment of Premium of N500/m², amounting to N11,660,715 and payment of Ground Rent from 1984 to 2021 (37 years), amounting to N43,144,645.

“However, for 20 months, Paulosa Nigeria Limited refused to comply with the terms and conditions for the approval. Consequent upon the failure of Paulosa Nigeria Limited to comply with the terms and conditions for approval granted for a Right of Occupancy on the said land, the approval was revoked on October 10, 2024, more than 20 months after it was given. From the above, it should be clear that Paulosa Nigeria Limited never at any time, owned the land”

Eteka1:
Let me quote Lere Olayinka before people are misled by your comment;


“A construction company, Paulosa Nigeria Limited occupied the land as a temporary office, under a Temporary Right of Occupancy arrangement granted in 1984 (40 years ago). For 36 years, the company occupied the land, built permanent structures on it, and rented them out without any approval from the government.

“On November 18, 2020, after occupying the land for 36 years without approval, Paulosa Nigeria Limited applied to the then Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, for the conversion of the Temporary Right of Occupancy to a Statutory Right of Occupancy.

“On February 1, 2023, approval was granted to Paulosa Nigeria Limited for a Statutory Right of Occupancy, subject to certain terms and conditions. Some of the terms and conditions are payment of Ground Rent Per Square Meter Per Annum, which was N50K/m² from 2022 to 2023, amounting to N2,332,143; payment of Premium of N500/m², amounting to N11,660,715 and payment of Ground Rent from 1984 to 2021 (37 years), amounting to N43,144,645.

“However, for 20 months, Paulosa Nigeria Limited refused to comply with the terms and conditions for the approval. Consequent upon the failure of Paulosa Nigeria Limited to comply with the terms and conditions for approval granted for a Right of Occupancy on the said land, the approval was revoked on October 10, 2024, more than 20 months after it was given. From the above, it should be clear that Paulosa Nigeria Limited never at any time, owned the land”

I may not respond to you anymore as people that took a particular position don't change their mind. From what you posted here, they were granted statutory R of O. That's the main thing. Every R of O has a condition to pay ground rent. I'm very sure you haven't seen any R of O before. I'm also sure you're from Southwest so you may not know. Most past ministers of FCT did similar thing wike is doing but after their tenure, those lands will be returned to the original owners. So rest, don't waste your time

Saao:
bro as I said, every Right of Occupation comes with the condition of annual payment of ground rent. When you failed, Government will charge you for penal rent not revocation. You will understand it more if you have land in Abuja, I have land in Abuja. Even Lere Olayinka confirmed this fact of then granted Statutory right of O so that alone stood as fact. R of o/c of o are the same. Just like governor's consent and c of o are the same in lagos. Ground rent in Abuja, landuse charge in lagos are the same.

even the Paulosa people have failed to show any shred of evidence that proves that they own the land in question, other than the fact that they have been there for many years on a Temporary Right of Occupancy.

Eteka1:
even the Paulosa people have failed to show any shred of evidence that proves that they own the land in question, other than the fact that they have been there for many years on a Temporary Right of Occupancy.

lol, vdm shared their document. The man son who is a lawyer shared the Statutory R of O.

Saao:
I may not respond to you anymore as people that took a particular position don't change their mind. From what you posted here, they were granted statutory R of O. That's the main thing. Every R of O has a condition to pay ground rent. I'm very sure you haven't seen any R of O before. I'm also sure you're from Southwest so you may not know. Most past ministers of FCT did similar thing wike is doing but after their tenure, those lands will be returned to the original owners. So rest, don't waste your time

if you apply to me that you want to buy my land and I write to you that I approve your request, on the conditions that you must pay me ground rent for the years you stayed there, does it mean you own the land when you failed to pay me?

Saao:
lol, vdm shared their document. The man so who is a lawyer shared the Statutory R of O.

ok please post it here for us to see. Because even Wike said he would like to see it.

FourQu:
Exactly what I'm saying. You're just a rabble rouser. Facts would stare at anyone who goes through your threads history for 5 minutes

The fact that one man Wike is the number 1 enemy in the hearts of all you ibos ,makes me know he is on a just cause and right side of history.

A people who accept evil can never accept good.

Eteka1:
if you apply to me that you want to buy my land and I write to you that I approve your request, on the conditions that you must pay me ground rent for the years you stayed there, does it mean you own the land when you failed to pay me?

lol, from what you wrote here, it simply means you don't have full knowledge on how it works. Application for purchase is different from documentation here. The issue here is documentation not Payment for the land. For Government to grant any right at all on a land, you have been offered and offered accepted and other procedures take place before getting to the stage temporary right of Occupancy and then to apply and get statutory right of Occupancy. What we are saying is that, when someone has statutory right of occupation, minister has no right to revoke it for non payment of ground rent that is annual payment. The fact that you own house rent, you landlord has no right to evict you from your apartment, except court. Owing a statutory R of o is beyond a tenant landlord relationship. The only way he can revoke R of o is when it's over riding public interest. I won't respond to any of u again

Eteka1:
ok please post it here for us to see. Because even Wike said he would like to see it.

I don't have that time.have a nice day

Saao:
lol, from what you wrote here, it simply means you don't have full knowledge on how it works. Application for purchase is different from documentation here. The issue here is documentation not Payment for the land. For Government to grant any right at all on a land, you have been offered and offered accepted and other procedures take place before getting to the stage temporary right of Occupancy and then to apply and get statutory right of Occupancy. What we are saying is that, when someone has statutory right of occupation, minister has no right to revoke it for non payment of ground rent that is annual payment. The fact that you own house rent, you landlord has no right to evict you from your apartment, except court. Owing a statutory R of o is beyond a tenant landlord relationship. The only way he can revoke R of o is when it's over riding public interest. I won't respond to any of u again

very laughable. Even a layman should know better

helinues:
Just leave the boy.

The thing wey no lost that he has been looking for, hope he finds it

crime doesnt pay i hope you know. One day you will answer for your crimes. That one called ijelespeaks did far more than you can ever do, today where is he? Your day is coming. crime will take you nowhere

You will also be a topic on this forum too one day dont worry

Hopebringer:
crime doesnt pay i hope you know. One day you will answer for your crimes. That one called ijelespeaks did far more than you can ever do, today where is he? Your day is coming. crime will take you nowhere

You will also be a topic on this forum too one day dont worry

Unfortunately, we warned those that you listed above same way we are warning the boy VDM.

Those that we advised in the past but refused to listening are now bitting their own fingers..

helinues:
Unfortunately, we warned those that you listed above same way we are warning the boy VDM.

Those that we advised in the past but refused to listening are now bitting their own fingers..

crime doesnt pay i hope you know. One day you will answer for your crimes. That one called ijelespeaks did far more than you can ever do, today where is he? Your day is coming. crime will take you nowhere

You will also be a topic on this forum too one day dont worry

Eteka1:
He's either ignorant or being mischievous. I say that going by his recent activity where he went to town with a FALSE story that Wike/FCTA revoked ownership of land "OWNED" by a construction company belonging to a late Military Man. This is false because the land actually belongs to the government. I will explain in layman's terms so that the gullible can clearly understand.

(1) The land fully belongs to the government not to the construction company in question. Lawyersarena.com describes a Temporary Right of Occupancy as thus, "A temporary right of occupancy as its title implies is essentially limited or transient in nature it amounts to no more than a bare licence to occupy land on a temporary and sometimes short term basis and generally confers no legal estate in the grantee of such a right".

Now it's clear that the government gave that construction company a Temporary Right of Occupancy in 1984. And as we can now understand, this permit only allows them to use the place TEMPORARILY. The government does that a lot of times. Construction companies are usually given land by government to use for their yard and other construction activities. Especially when they are handling a job for government . It doesn't make them owners of such lands.

(2) Because the government didn't recover the place for decades doesn't mean that a Temporary permit to use the place has translated to a Permanent Right of Occupancy or Certificate of Occupancy. And because they decided to build some houses and live on government land for which they only had a permit to occupy TEMPORARILY doesn't make the land theirs.

(3) The people recently applied to government to give them a Permanent Right of Occupancy, meaning they now wanted to buy the land from government. Government agreed 20 months ago and asked them to pay some money amounting to about N56 million. They didn't pay the money for 20 months (almost two years). So how are they the owners of the land? If my tenant has been living in my property for many decades and expresses interest to buy the property and own it permanently but fails to pay the money I asked him to pay to own the place, is he the owner of the property? Or am I not at liberty to sell the place to someone else who is ready and able to pay me?

(4) There is a trending video of VeryDarkMan calling on the Military to stop the FCT from recovering the land is a treasonable act. His calling on the Military to unlawfully stop the government from is Lawful operations is the height of stupidity and ignorance. He's only lucky that this is Nigeria where people get away with doing or saying treasonable things.

VDM is ignorant about land in FCT because he doesn't own land in FCT, I have land in Kuje with direct allocation from FCT, when I went to start develop the land, 7 people came claiming the land, the land grabbers are doing worst In FCT... VDM says WIKE is demolishing people building, this high level of ignorance, it is the original owner that will report to FCDA with original paper that someone has built on his land before they will carry caterpillar to that place for demolition, there are a lot that are settle if the person is ready to pay money given by the owner of the original owner of the land ... Before you buy land in FCT go to FCDA and confirm

@Saao, I stopped reading your gibberish when you said R-of-O is the same as C-of-O.

I have 3 lands across the FCT and I am categorically telling you that you are either irredeemably ignorant or obnoxiously mischievous.

I also don't think you own even a square meter in Abuja with these nonsense you are spilling from every corner of your mouth.

AmiableMosquito:
@Saao, I stopped reading your gibberish when you said R-of-O is the same as C-of-O.

I have 3 lands across the FCT and I am categorically telling you that you are either irredeemably ignorant or obnoxiously mischievous.

I also think you own even a square meter in Abuja with these nonsense you are spilling from every corner of your mouth.

Why should I respond to mosquito. Just like saying c of o and governor's consent are not statutory equal in lagos. May they revoke your land in Abuja with R of o or c of o and reallocate to someone without over riding public interest. Don't quote me again since you knew nothing about the subject matter

Saao:
Why should I respond to mosquito. Just like saying c of o and governor's consent are not statutory equal in lagos. May they revoke your land in Abuja with R of o or c of o and reallocate to someone without over riding public interest. Don't quote me again since you knew nothing about the subject matter

Typical of the gullible over-sentimental Nigerian. See your dirty mouth like "May they revoke......". Spare me the theatrics this clown. You think you are in a circus and God is your puppet. May they revoke.....abeg abeg

I repeat you neither have a square meter of land nor know anything about land administration in the FCT. My advise is that you either crawl back into the hole you escaped from or try Wike and see, if your brain won't be demolished alongside the illegal properties. You id!ots enjoy illegality and hate to do the right thing, but when you are challenged, you begin to cry victimisation and become emergency activists.

Saao, Sour or whatever you are called, if them born your papa well, go buy land for FCT, no do proper documentation, you hear? You think say na Aboki still be Minister, abi?

It's a good thing your brain signalled you not to reply me further. At least, that part of your brain is still working. Because the more you respond, the more the world sees your stupidity.

PS: Like the OP said, if we were to do the right thing, VDM should be cooling off in detention by now. I don't give a fvck what good he has done in the past or that he intends to do in the future. You don't open your gutter mouth and ask the military to stop constitutionally elected/appointed public officials from carrying out their statutory duties. Animals everywhere. 🤮

Only Nonetities follow this clown and dele farotimi