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| Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 4:11pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Botany It is like a mustard seed, which is the smallest of all seeds sown upon the earth. Mark 4:31 “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man took and planted in his field. / Although it is the smallest of all seeds, Matthew 13:31,32. - Even farmers in Jesus’ day and locale were aware of smaller seeds than the mustard seed. Picture 1- Mustard Seed. Picture 2 - Orchid Seed. MightySparrow
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| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by MightySparrow: 4:29pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:It depends, mustard does not grow in Nigeria. If it does, I don't know it. Jesus was addressing a particular people, at a particular location,at a particular time with what they can relate with. So, to their own place, mustard could be the smallest available. The Bible talks about fig, Bishop Àjàyí Crowther translated it as ọpọtọ. Ọpọtọ is not fig. Fig does not grow in Yoruba land neither do we find ọpọtọ in Israel. So, Bible is not a science book like your Quran. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by illicit(m): 4:37pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Jesus was a good orator... Alright. Did you ever read that anybody argued with him? Even his mother, The Pharisees, Sadducees or Pontius Pilate...? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 4:43pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
MightySparrow:I once asked you who told you the Qur'an is a science book but you refuse to answer! I have shown you the picture in the OP. èso hóró musitadi You are just trying to patronize me here! Jesus said in both Matthew and Mark that mustard seed is the smallest of all seeds, but this is scientifically found to be false! How do we explain it? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 4:44pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
illicit:So what happened in Mark 3:21? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by illicit(m): 4:50pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:It means they understand what he meant... See he was a teacher, a teacher uses illustrations... You don't expect everything he says to be correct on the spot |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 5:10pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
illicit:Is that why he was called mad? ![]() |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by duro4chang(m): 5:11pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:That was probably the smallest seed in Israel. He had to use what people of the time will understand |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by illicit(m): 5:11pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:Sure Some people considered him weird or outright unstable... He speaks in parables Even the disciples don't understand |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by BlackfireX: 5:12pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
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| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 5:15pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
illicit:Why was he speaking in Parables? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 5:17pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
duro4chang:Did he say that? He is said to be God! How do we excuse God now of not knowing that Mustard seed is not the smallest seed ever! See the red portion below! “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man took and planted in his field. / Although it is the smallest of all seeds, Matthew 13:31,32. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by LordIsaac(m): 5:19pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Jesus did not say that...false prophets! |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 5:19pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
LordIsaac:So who said it o? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by illicit(m): 5:20pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:I don't know Buy orators have different methods of arresting the audience... |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 5:28pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
illicit:He did it purposely so that people would not understand and not be saved! He later explained the parables to the disciples and others around him in private! I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech. An hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you this way, but will tell you plainly about the Father. John 16:25 When they were alone, the people around Jesus, along with the Twelve, asked him about the parables. He said to them, “The secret of God’s kingdom has been given to you, but to those who are outside everything comes in parables. This is so that they can look and see but have no insight, and they can hear but not understand. Otherwise, they might turn their lives around and be forgiven. Mark 4:10-12 |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by hakeemhakeem(m): 5:41pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
And who told you that the mostard seed you displayed was the one Jesus was referring too, what if people have changed it couple of times. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:48pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
To his listeners the mustard seed is tiniest of all seeds! Try to imagine if Jesus mentioned the tiniest of all earthly seeds when his listeners don't know or seen it before do you think the purpose of that illustration will be met? Of course he will have to abandon the topic in order to lecture his listeners on the name of the tiniest seed, what fruit it bears and where to find it. When teaching with the use of illustration wise people don't loose focus of the aim of their teaching, it makes no sense mentioning the name of the most ferocious animal when teaching children who have never seen it all their life just because you want to warn them of the danger of predators. Of course you will use the wild animal that's common to them! |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by realsportclub7: 7:27pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:It is about the smallest seeds that eventually become trees. I don't know if the orchid eventually grow into a tree. Mustard seed is the smallest seed known to Israelites that eventually becomes a tree. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by Captain4Jehovah(m): 7:27pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
As far as I know the mustard seed was the smallest seed ever sown by a first-century farmer in Israel. Possibly that part of the world. Jesus was speaking to the people of Jerusalem the smallest seed known to them would have been the mustard comparing to how large the plant becomes when fully grown. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by MightySparrow: 7:34pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
realsportclub7:That is the lie of an Islamic jihadi |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by Captain4Jehovah(m): 7:47pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Jesus couldn't have possibly be wrong. Take this for instance: [46] And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. [47] Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! [48] Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. [49] Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. [50] Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. John 1 : 46-50. The person who knows man's thought even from afar couldn't have made a mistake by saying a mustard seed was the smallest seed AS AT THAT TIME. I ADVICE YOU READ YOUR QURAN WITH AN UNBIASED HEART. IN THERE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHO JESUS IS AND WHAT SALVATION REALLY IS. YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF GOING AGAINST THE TRUTH. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by J3susFr3ak: 8:04pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
AntiChristian:You will save yourself a great deal of problematic confusion if you clearly understood the context in which that parable was made. Here is a full quote: "He put another parable before them, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field. It is the smallest of all seeds, but when it has grown it is larger than all the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches"” (Matthew 13:31–32). IF you note the specific places I bolded, you will have a better understanding as to why Jesus mentioned the Mustard as being the smallest of all seeds. In the parable's context....it was about a man sowing these Mustard seeds in his field. However, we are also made to understand that the Mustard seed was not the only seed that was sown in that man's field. Perhaps there were other plants too that were sowed in that same field. Jesus emphasized the smallness of the Mustard as being the least compared to ALL THE OTHER SEEDS that man had sown in his field--yet the amazing percentage of growth compared to the growth yielded by the other seeds planted, makes the least mustard seed a massive giant in the end (it does become a giant tree compared to the other garden plants or even corn stalks in that man's field. It would not have made sense to use the even smaller orchid seed in that parable's context because the Jewish farmers of that day may not have been familiar with the orchid tree or the orchid's growth percentage from seed to fully grown tree still does not match that of the Mustard's. When Jesus used the term "the least of all seeds" to the Mustard...think more about the Farmer sowing a veriety of seeds in his field in which the Mustard was also among--being the least. The immediate context of that parable was the farmer and his sowing these seeds in his farm. The objective of the parable was to make a spiritual illustration. It was not to confuse the audience by bragging about knowing a lot about microscopic seeds.. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AcadaWriter0: 8:13pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Jesus was a skilled speaker. Did you ever read about anyone who disagreed with him? Not even his mother, the Pharisees, Sadducees, or Pontius Pilate? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by Idonweak: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
What did you aim to achieve by creating this provocative thread? When the energy reciprocated and people come for your religion of pedophiles and terrorist i hope you'd be able to tolerate? |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by Omoawoke(m): 9:17pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
duro4chang:Nope, no excuse.. Jesus was a moronnn |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19pm On Dec 17, 2024 |
Omoawoke:That was the best comment ever on this forum so please clap for yourself!
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| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 7:08am On Dec 18, 2024 |
J3susFr3ak:The context you interpreted never mentioned it as claimed boldened up there! There was no direct comparison with any other seeds of the man! I understand this is the best explanation but it is not available in the texts of the Bible. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 7:11am On Dec 18, 2024 |
realsportclub7:Where's this in the text? Show it. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by MightySparrow: 7:30am On Dec 18, 2024 |
J3susFr3ak:Antichristian is his name. He is antitruth. He has conditioned his mind not to be reasonable with the truth of the Bible. He is a bitter critic of the Bible. Let us be praying for him to see the light. |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by AntiChristian(op): 7:39am On Dec 18, 2024 |
MightySparrow:You didn't tell J3susFr3ak you started all these scientific mess about the Qur'an. I have opened seven threads now and will try and make it ten today! Tell him you're a bitter critic of the Qur'an too! You've conditioned yourself to be antitruth to Islam, the Qur'an and Allah! And many times you've posted videos from others in this regards. Some even included lies! And you promoted the lies! |
| Re: Biblical Error - Jesus Says The Smallest Seed Is The Mustard! by duro4chang(m): 5:50pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
Omoawoke:Your Allah must be a blood sucker |
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