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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 10:53pm On Dec 18, 2024
⚡Mysterious drones have been spotted flying over North Texas, including near military bases, as reports of the unmanned aircraft nationwide spark worry and speculation - Dallas News
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 11:23pm On Dec 18, 2024
WrriterNg:
The most irritating part is that he still calls this people "partners".

People that would hang him without batting an eyelid, if they could.

If he doesn't have the stomach for it, then he should give complete control of the SMO to Medvedev. To command the troops in the SMO areas.

He should just sit back and watch the west beg for him to come back.
If putin sit on a negotiation table with the west on the outcome of this war, then putin need to be killed by the people of Russia.

Any other option outside the total capitulation of the state of Ukraine will be a grave mistake.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:41pm On Dec 18, 2024

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7449847910310726944/

Russia captured the man who UK USA evil nato used to set the bomb in Moscow

He will end up in jail and Russia will probably use his kidneys to replace better people who are sick in Russia

So he will be the Guinea pig for young doctors in the jail

Cc TV Moscow captured his moves

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 1:14am On Dec 19, 2024
Masterviolence:
If putin sit on a negotiation table with the west on the outcome of this war, then putin need to be killed by the people of Russia.

Any other option outside the total capitulation of the state of Ukraine will be a grave mistake.
A capitulation is impossible.

Putin made sure of it with his go-slow, "our partners are mean" approach.

The true test would be what he does after the pause.
The proper thing to do would be to authorize the most consequential military buildup since WW2 and convince Xi to jointly finance an ambitious revamp of the North Korean and Iranian militaries.
So that when NATO restarts this conflict, and I can bet anything that they will, Russia and the Axis will be able to face up to the challenge.

A capitulation was the ideal.
Now NATO will deploy at least 100K regular troops north of the Dnieper and smack dab on Russia's border.
Ukraine will build up a 2 million man ridiculously-armed army.

Who knows what they'll do then.
They might favor a rematch. Not necessarily because they'll win.
But because they'll make Russia bleed in unprecedented ways, especially if Putin opts for another tap dance.

On a related note, Xi should absolutely not get into a hot war over Taiwan.
It might be a trigger for the Hegemony to pick off other members of the Axis. Whether it is Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, or even Iran.
In fact, a China-Taiwan hot war may paradoxically shrink the Axis. For starters, the sanctions will economically wreck Iran and Venezuela and prime them for an Assad-style regime collapse.
Putin is supposed to be the Supreme Commander of the Axis Powers. He won this war, but his conduct possibly introduced structural defects in the Axis.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 2:02am On Dec 19, 2024
Kingsnairaland:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7449847910310726944/

Russia captured the man who UK USA evil nato used to set the bomb in Moscow

He will end up in jail and Russia will probably use his kidneys to replace better people who are sick in Russia

So he will be the Guinea pig for young doctors in the jail

Cc TV Moscow captured his moves
The man is inconsequential.

I consider him a victim.

Central Asia is crawling with hundreds of thousands that can be recruited as patsies for less than the cost of an S-class.

The cartels can smuggle explosives into the US to take out VIPs.
They wouldn't do it tho', because of the blowback.

Putin's intransigence has created this dynamic.
NATO will run out of high-value targets if the only cost is dead Central Asians.
They're using Ukrainians as cannon fodder. They don't give a shit about dead Tajiks, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, or some other Central Asian?

I'll reiterate for the umpteenth time.
This is the price of Putin's approach.
His response to the repeated provocations, from the assassination of Dugina to the blowing up of refineries has been to kill NATO instructors, take out theater officers, and strike the grid. Things he should be doing anyway regardless of provocation.
In effect, NATO has no deterrence. They could take out Gerasimov and he will parade the economically-disadvantaged Central Asian patsy who has never seen $100,000 in his life. Destroy some base stations. Then wait for the next assassination or strategic strike. Rinse and repeat.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 3:11am On Dec 19, 2024
⚡Polish Defense Ministry:

Warsaw has almost no capacity left for military supplies to Kiev.

Deputy head of the department Pavel Zalevsky made this statement.

"I believe that we have given everything we could. We support and will continue to support Ukraine. However, we can say that we are approaching the breaking point and are running into a wall," he said on Radio Zet.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 3:24am On Dec 19, 2024
⚡Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Sybiga on Wednesday urged Australia to beef up its military support to help Kyiv’s armed forces fight off Russia’s advancing troops.

He was speaking at a press conference with his Australian counterpart Penny Wong, who was on a visit to the country fighting off Russia’s invasion for almost three years.

Canberra has provided Kyiv with 120 Bushmaster armoured personal carriers, which are designed to withstand the impact of land mines and improvised explosive devices.

“The situation on the battlefield remains very difficult and the need to strengthen our troops remains extremely urgent. That is why today I have requested additional military support, including Australia’s famous Bushmasters and other weapons,” Sybiga said.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 3:51am On Dec 19, 2024
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 4:32am On Dec 19, 2024
usmanpogo:
The relationship between the Japs and the Americans before Pearl harbor attack was really complicated.
It's not as simple as people like Obedience 40 would like you to believe it was or as innocent as Jovi makes it seem.

The Japs kicked out the Europeans from Japan after uncovering the Europeans were trying to divide the country using Catholicism as a smokescreen.

Japan enacted the Sakoku policy to maintain stability, social order, and control over external influences. The policy was implemented by the Tokugawa shogunate during the Edo period (1603-1868). Try watching the Shogun series, it gives a brief context into the reasons for the Sakoku policy.

The Japanese isolationist policy, known as Sakoku, was a series of directives that limited Japan's interactions with the outside world for over 200 years. It also slowed the technological advancement.

The Japs were confined within their borders and shielded from outside influence until the US decided to play God.

Commodore Matthew Perry's arrival in Japan in 1853 and his subsequent demands were a key factor in Japan's industrialization and modernization, which helped Japan avoid being subjugated by Western powers.

Commodore Mathew Perry forced the Japanese to open their ports for the U.S fleet and establish trade relations with the US through series of gunboat diplomacy. Gunboat diplomacy is a foreign policy tactic that uses a country's naval power to force other nations to comply with its demands. It involves displaying and deploying military might to force the other country to capitulate.

The Meji Restoration

The main goal of the Meiji Restoration was to rapidly modernize Japan to a point of equality with other major powers. Until 1853, Japan had been a backward and isolated country, still caught up in feudalism and military governance, but this all changed when US Commodore Matthew Perry arrived with a naval armada.

After the Meiji Restoration, Japan expanded its territory through imperialism. Japan’s process of imperial expansion, however, put it on a collision course with the United States, particularly in relation to China.

The US and Japan were interested in the Chinese markets and the Asian resources. It got more serious when the Japs installed their puppets in Manchuria.

The year 1931 Japan took its first step toward building a Japanese empire in eastern Asia by invading Manchuria, a fertile, resource-rich province in northern China. Japan installed a puppet government in Manchuria, renaming it Manchukuo. But the United States refused to recognize the new regime or any other forced upon China.

Despite the hostilities from both sides, US companies continued to supply Japan with the steel and petroleum it needed for its fight against China long after the conflict between the countries escalated into a full-scale war in 1937.

However, the isolationist movement back in the United States gaining momentum argued the country had no business in the international conflicts developing around the world. Even the Japanese military’s murder of between 100,000 and 200,000 helpless Chinese military prisoners and civilians and the rape of tens of thousands of Chinese women during the 1937 Rape of Nanking failed to immediately shift US foreign policy.


In fewer terse, the brief historical highlights above, showed the U.S created the monster( imperialist Japs) and also showed both nations are no different from each other.
🤣🤣😅😅😂

The US created the monster?? When the US allowed China into the WTO and opened China up for international trade. If present China were to start attacking and starts occupation of nations in Asia it will be the US fault for opening China to the world.

The US didn't go about attacking and occupying other nations .The US and imperial Japan are very different from each other.

The US was very tolerant to Japan and its imperialist ambition, Japan would time and time break agreement with the US by attacking nations even after agreement with the US.

The final straw was the oil embargo, without oil from the US, it was virtually impossible for the japs to carry on with its imperialist expansion. This embargo was translated as an act of war against the Japanese empire by the US. Thus the Japanese surprise and unprovoked attack on the US.

Please there is nothing similar about the US and imperial Japan..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 4:34am On Dec 19, 2024
LordAdam16:
The man is inconsequential.

I consider him a victim.

Central Asia is crawling with hundreds of thousands that can be recruited as patsies for less than the cost of an S-class.

The cartels can smuggle explosives into the US to take out VIPs.
They wouldn't do it tho', because of the blowback.

Putin's intransigence has created this dynamic.
NATO will run out of high-value targets if the only cost is dead Central Asians.
They're using Ukrainians as cannon fodder. They don't give a shit about dead Tajiks, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, or some other Central Asian?

I'll reiterate for the umpteenth time.
This is the price of Putin's approach.
His response to the repeated provocations, from the assassination of Dugina to the blowing up of refineries has been to kill NATO instructors, take out theater officers, and strike the grid. Things he should be doing anyway regardless of provocation.
In effect, NATO has no deterrence. They could take out Gerasimov and he will parade the economically-disadvantaged Central Asian patsy who has never seen $100,000 in his life. Destroy some base stations. Then wait for the next assassination or strategic strike. Rinse and repeat.

-Lord
So Nato is responsible for the general death??

🤣🤣😅😂😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 5:50am On Dec 19, 2024
Gbadebo19:
I'm sure he doesn't really mean it to that extent. Just a statement out of passion. 😂😂
What drives such passion exactly?😂😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 6:56am On Dec 19, 2024
usmanpogo:
The relationship between the Japs and the Americans before Pearl harbor attack was really complicated.
It's not as simple as people like Obedience 40 would like you to believe it was or as innocent as Jovi makes it seem.

The Japs kicked out the Europeans from Japan after uncovering the Europeans were trying to divide the country using Catholicism as a smokescreen.

Japan enacted the Sakoku policy to maintain stability, social order, and control over external influences. The policy was implemented by the Tokugawa shogunate during the Edo period (1603-1868). Try watching the Shogun series, it gives a brief context into the reasons for the Sakoku policy.

The Japanese isolationist policy, known as Sakoku, was a series of directives that limited Japan's interactions with the outside world for over 200 years. It also slowed the technological advancement.

The Japs were confined within their borders and shielded from outside influence until the US decided to play God.

Commodore Matthew Perry's arrival in Japan in 1853 and his subsequent demands were a key factor in Japan's industrialization and modernization, which helped Japan avoid being subjugated by Western powers.

Commodore Mathew Perry forced the Japanese to open their ports for the U.S fleet and establish trade relations with the US through series of gunboat diplomacy. Gunboat diplomacy is a foreign policy tactic that uses a country's naval power to force other nations to comply with its demands. It involves displaying and deploying military might to force the other country to capitulate.

The Meji Restoration

The main goal of the Meiji Restoration was to rapidly modernize Japan to a point of equality with other major powers. Until 1853, Japan had been a backward and isolated country, still caught up in feudalism and military governance, but this all changed when US Commodore Matthew Perry arrived with a naval armada.

After the Meiji Restoration, Japan expanded its territory through imperialism. Japan’s process of imperial expansion, however, put it on a collision course with the United States, particularly in relation to China.

The US and Japan were interested in the Chinese markets and the Asian resources. It got more serious when the Japs installed their puppets in Manchuria.

The year 1931 Japan took its first step toward building a Japanese empire in eastern Asia by invading Manchuria, a fertile, resource-rich province in northern China. Japan installed a puppet government in Manchuria, renaming it Manchukuo. But the United States refused to recognize the new regime or any other forced upon China.

Despite the hostilities from both sides, US companies continued to supply Japan with the steel and petroleum it needed for its fight against China long after the conflict between the countries escalated into a full-scale war in 1937.

However, the isolationist movement back in the United States gaining momentum argued the country had no business in the international conflicts developing around the world. Even the Japanese military’s murder of between 100,000 and 200,000 helpless Chinese military prisoners and civilians and the rape of tens of thousands of Chinese women during the 1937 Rape of Nanking failed to immediately shift US foreign policy.


In fewer terse, the brief historical highlights above, showed the U.S created the monster( imperialist Japs) and also showed both nations are no different from each other.
Spot on. I couldn't have said it better.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 8:00am On Dec 19, 2024
⚡Preparations have begun for the repatriation of some 2,400 former Assad regime fighters who fled to Iraq to Syria via Albukamal.

- Syrian Creative Agency
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 8:58am On Dec 19, 2024
usmanpogo:
The relationship between the Japs and the Americans before Pearl harbor attack was really complicated.
It's not as simple as people like Obedience 40 would like you to believe it was or as innocent as Jovi makes it seem.

The Japs kicked out the Europeans from Japan after uncovering the Europeans were trying to divide the country using Catholicism as a smokescreen.

Japan enacted the Sakoku policy to maintain stability, social order, and control over external influences. The policy was implemented by the Tokugawa shogunate during the Edo period (1603-1868). Try watching the Shogun series, it gives a brief context into the reasons for the Sakoku policy.

The Japanese isolationist policy, known as Sakoku, was a series of directives that limited Japan's interactions with the outside world for over 200 years. It also slowed the technological advancement.

The Japs were confined within their borders and shielded from outside influence until the US decided to play God.

Commodore Matthew Perry's arrival in Japan in 1853 and his subsequent demands were a key factor in Japan's industrialization and modernization, which helped Japan avoid being subjugated by Western powers.

Commodore Mathew Perry forced the Japanese to open their ports for the U.S fleet and establish trade relations with the US through series of gunboat diplomacy. Gunboat diplomacy is a foreign policy tactic that uses a country's naval power to force other nations to comply with its demands. It involves displaying and deploying military might to force the other country to capitulate.

The Meji Restoration

The main goal of the Meiji Restoration was to rapidly modernize Japan to a point of equality with other major powers. Until 1853, Japan had been a backward and isolated country, still caught up in feudalism and military governance, but this all changed when US Commodore Matthew Perry arrived with a naval armada.

After the Meiji Restoration, Japan expanded its territory through imperialism. Japan’s process of imperial expansion, however, put it on a collision course with the United States, particularly in relation to China.

The US and Japan were interested in the Chinese markets and the Asian resources. It got more serious when the Japs installed their puppets in Manchuria.

The year 1931 Japan took its first step toward building a Japanese empire in eastern Asia by invading Manchuria, a fertile, resource-rich province in northern China. Japan installed a puppet government in Manchuria, renaming it Manchukuo. But the United States refused to recognize the new regime or any other forced upon China.

Despite the hostilities from both sides, US companies continued to supply Japan with the steel and petroleum it needed for its fight against China long after the conflict between the countries escalated into a full-scale war in 1937.

However, the isolationist movement back in the United States gaining momentum argued the country had no business in the international conflicts developing around the world. Even the Japanese military’s murder of between 100,000 and 200,000 helpless Chinese military prisoners and civilians and the rape of tens of thousands of Chinese women during the 1937 Rape of Nanking failed to immediately shift US foreign policy.


In fewer terse, the brief historical highlights above, showed the U.S created the monster( imperialist Japs) and also showed both nations are no different from each other.
I must confess your write-up is a very brilliant one and no doubt you are widely read.
But it seems you have a way of twisting things to blame the US for every problem in the world. By my scrutiny of this write-up,
1. Japan was a backward nation until the Meiji restoration.
2. Commodore Matthew Perry was the one who forced Japan to open their ports to the outside world.

How does the action of commodore Matthew Perry bring out the beast in Japan since it was done purposely for trade albeit it was achieved through a show of force? Was commodore Matthew the one who drafted the Meiji restoration or had a say in it?
You can't say the show of force by the US changed the thinking mentality of the Japs. To me, it is akin to saying money changes people's character. No, the character had always been there. The imperialist nature of Japan has always been there. Their backwardness was the reason they couldn't achieve their aim.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m):
23jerryking:
What drives such passion exactly?😂😂
Pure hatred!!!!
You got me there. 😂😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 9:04am On Dec 19, 2024
obedience4:
🤣🤣😅😅😂

The US created the monster?? When the US allowed China into the WTO and opened China up for international trade. If present China were to start attacking and starts occupation of nations in Asia it will be the US fault for opening China to the world.

The US didn't go about attacking and occupying other nations .The US and imperial Japan are very different from each other.

The US was very tolerant to Japan and its imperialist ambition, Japan would time and time break agreement with the US by attacking nations even after agreement with the US.

The final straw was the oil embargo, without oil from the US, it was virtually impossible for the japs to carry on with its imperialist expansion. This embargo was translated as an act of war against the Japanese empire by the US. Thus the Japanese surprise and unprovoked attack on the US.

Please there is nothing similar about the US and imperial Japan..
🤝🤝🤝🤝
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 9:09am On Dec 19, 2024
Vic2023:
I'm visiting your house this weekend ooooooo, just dey prepare?
By now, you ought to have realized this thread has shifted from what your redundant brain capacity can comprehend. It's now for learning and re-learning. Sheybi Irony and Sarcasm at the same, aren't they?
Anyways, you are welcome. I will be expecting you.
By the way, you haven't posted the actual cost of my watch. Couldn't you find it?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 9:17am On Dec 19, 2024
Lawag3:
💯

The thing with these guys is that they make it seem like they support the good guys.

Now look at the stupid narrative he is trying to paint the Japanese were innocent defenseless . Who the US just decided to nuke for no reason at all.

That is why in international politics I don't expressly support a side I side with who is right at the moments
I have read from several sources that actually the nukes were not really necessary as the Soviets had defeated Hitler and were already moving towards Japan. Thus, the force of the allied powers would have been too much for Japan to contain and they would have been outnumbered and easily defeated.
But the nukes could be justified in two instances.
First, Japanese policies for their soldiers were to fight to the death. So, the outnumbering of Japanese soldiers might not necessarily mean the war would have ended as fast as it did and may have continued for the next 10 years. And as everyone knows, Japan did not surrender even after the first nuke, it had to take a second one for them to surrender. It is safe to say that if the nukes hadn't been used, the war might have dragged on till heaven knows when.
Secondly, many countries were racing to create a nuclear bomb and definitely, the first to achieve it would have used it on the other. US believed the Germans were creating one and the allied powers couldn't take a risk on Japan not having one.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 9:31am On Dec 19, 2024
23jerryking:
What drives such passion exactly?😂😂
We have good Muslims and we have extremists/terrorists.
Equally, we have normal Pro-Russia guys and we have people like WriteerNg - he's an extremist pro-Russia.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 9:53am On Dec 19, 2024
Gbadebo19:
I have read from several sources that actually the nukes were not really necessary as the Soviets had defeated Hitler and were already moving towards Japan. Thus, the force of the allied powers would have been too much for Japan to contain and they would have been outnumbered and easily defeated.
But the nukes could be justified in two instances.
First, Japanese policies for their soldiers were to fight to the death. So, the outnumbering of Japanese soldiers might not necessarily mean the war would have ended as fast as it did and may have continued for the next 10 years. And as everyone knows, Japan did not surrender even after the first nuke, it had to take a second one for them to surrender. It is safe to say that if the nukes hadn't been used, the war might have dragged on till heaven knows when.
Secondly, many countries were racing to create a nuclear bomb and definitely, the first to achieve it would have used it on the other. US believed the Germans were creating one and the allied powers couldn't take a risk on Japan not having one.
Thank you sir.

The Japanese had a long standing samurai code pass from generations know as the "Bushido" this means it was more honourable to die in battle than to surrender. The Japanese were never going to surrender the home islands without a fight.

If you read Emperor Hirohito speech ending the war you won't see any reference about 'surrender' or 'defeat', but he simply ascribed that the war 'did not turn in Japan's favour. The Japanese needed something extreme to bring the war to an end.
This was the height of how proud the Japanese people are.

The nazis didn't nuked anyone but killed more civilians than anyone else in ww2.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 10:29am On Dec 19, 2024
obedience4:
See you writing this makes me wonder what kind of a ISD student you are..

Comparing NATO expansion to Japan imperialist expansion is insane..

NATO is a voluntary defense organisation, nations willing choose to be part of the organisation. Nations apply to be part of the alliance.

While the Japanese imperialist expansion was a hostile military takeover. During the peak of Japanese imperialism they "FORCELY" took over the entire korea and taiwan, took parts of China, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Myanmar, New Guinea, Guam, East Timor, and Nauru had numerous puppets states.

How can you compare NATO expansion with Japan imperialist expansion. This is crazy dude
Building military bases all over the world and close to those you call your enemies is what? Peaceful movement?

USA was not invited to Syria, they came there and occupied the place where there is oil.

Check the meaning of imperialism and come back and delete this post.


Imperialism is the practice of extending a country's power over other nations, often through military or economic force. It can involve: Establishing or maintaining an empire, Gaining political or economic control over other territories, and Subjugating other countries.

Looking at this definition above, Japan was imperial using military, the USA is the new imperial empire,using economic force and the dollar. So yes the USA is no different from Japan. The USA is even worse than Japan because they use all the tools of imperialism which is military and economic force.


I have your time today. 😋😋😋😋😋
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 10:36am On Dec 19, 2024
Lawag3:
💯

The thing with these guys is that they make it seem like they support the good guys.

Now look at the stupid narrative he is trying to paint the Japanese were innocent defenseless . Who the US just decided to nuke for no reason at all.

That is why in international politics I don't expressly support a side I side with who is right at the moments
If you had carefully read all I wrote you'll see that in my write up I matter said Japan did the right or support what Japan did. What I'm bringing out is the deliberate use of nuclear weapons on civilians not once but twice. Using a small one at first and then a bigger one the 2nd time clearly shows the intention was to kill as many Japanese as possible. The thing is no matter how you guys paint the USA , there's no part both in history and presently where the USA comes out as the good guys. No amount of whitewashing cane erase what they have done and still doing.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 10:37am On Dec 19, 2024
obedience4:
See you writing this makes me wonder what kind of a ISD student you are..

Comparing NATO expansion to Japan imperialist expansion is insane..

NATO is a voluntary defense organisation, nations willing choose to be part of the organisation. Nations apply to be part of the alliance.

While the Japanese imperialist expansion was a hostile military takeover. During the peak of Japanese imperialism they "FORCELY" took over the entire korea and taiwan, took parts of China, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Myanmar, New Guinea, Guam, East Timor, and Nauru had numerous puppets states.

How can you compare NATO expansion with Japan imperialist expansion. This is crazy dude
Learn to choose your battles wisely. The guy writes like one only out to win an arguement not because he has points but because he has all the time in his hand.

If you ignore his posts, you won't cease to exist.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:50am On Dec 19, 2024
Jovi10:
Building military bases all over the world and close to those you call your enemies is what? Peaceful movement?

USA was not invited to Syria, they came there and occupied the place where there is oil.

Check the meaning of imperialism and come back and delete this post.


Imperialism is the practice of extending a country's power over other nations, often through military or economic force. It can involve: Establishing or maintaining an empire, Gaining political or economic control over other territories, and Subjugating other countries.

Looking at this definition above, Japan was imperial using military, the USA is the new imperial empire,using economic force and the dollar. So yes the USA is no different from Japan. The USA is even worse than Japan because they use all the tools of imperialism which is military and economic force.


I have your time today. 😋😋😋😋😋
You are not very bright.
Sorry to say so.

From US military base being legitimate targets to NATO being an imperialist oraginszation shows you are clearly out of your depths.


From your definition of imperialism how does NATO as an organisation or the US fit that description.

😂

You should study more, you have been making a mockery of yourself since yesterday
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 10:51am On Dec 19, 2024
I observed my recent submission ruffled some feathers and I have read some of the rebuttals from Mr Gbadebo and Mr Obedience. In this regard, I would address their concerns

Firstly, I agreed the relationship between the Japs and the US became irreversibly acrimonious and bellicious after the latter seized the assets of the former and also placed embargoes on oil and scrap metal sales.
The oil was needed for the survival of the Japs, the US made sure the Japs weren't able to purchase oil from other sources either.

Secondly, the Sakoku policy was implemented by preventing and killing any Japs that tried to leave the country, no one was allowed to leave and no one was allowed into the country. Total isolation from the outside world. They had no imperialist ambition for more than 200 years until the US forced their hands. This bears no semblance with the example of China Mr Obedience cited above.

Thirdly, the arrival of commodore Mathew Perry with his naval fleet did not only intimidate the Japs but the Japs realized the world has changed and they either modernize or perish, hence the Meji Restoration.

Finally, both the US and Japan strived to dominate the Pacific and obtain the resources that lies within. Both countries were imperialist, you can't tell me the reason the US was interested in the Pacific was just to trade and share Christmas gifts.

If the tables were reversed and it was the Japs who had the nuclear weapons first, they won't hesitate either.

Pearl harbor was the major military base the US used in its operations in the Pacific during the conflicts, the surprise attack by the Japs was supposed to force the US to negotiate because the Japs knew they were no match for the US. However, it only angered the US and they had their pound of flesh.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 10:57am On Dec 19, 2024
Gbadebo19:
By now, you ought to have realized this thread has shifted from what your redundant brain capacity can comprehend. It's now for learning and re-learning. Sheybi Irony and Sarcasm at the same, aren't they?
Anyways, you are welcome. I will be expecting you.
By the way, you haven't posted the actual cost of my watch. Couldn't you find it?
pls don't derail the post, I'm coming for you! I postponed this visitation because you said you were not around so when will you be around?
Give me the day And Time
You can argue with vocabulary.com

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 10:59am On Dec 19, 2024
Jovi10:
If you had carefully read all I wrote you'll see that in my write up I matter said Japan did the right or support what Japan did. What I'm bringing out is the deliberate use of nuclear weapons on civilians not once but twice. Using a small one at first and then a bigger one the 2nd time clearly shows the intention was to kill as many Japanese as possible. The thing is no matter how you guys paint the USA , there's no part both in history and presently where the USA comes out as the good guys. No amount of whitewashing cane erase what they have done and still doing.
The Japs aren't saints, they committed a lot of crimes against humanity also, especially in China and Korea.
The nuke was to send a message of strength, military exceptionalism and to also intimidate potential rivals.

They were unverified report the US planned to nuke the Soviet Union.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:06am On Dec 19, 2024
Jovi10:
If you had carefully read all I wrote you'll see that in my write up I matter said Japan did the right or support what Japan did. What I'm bringing out is the deliberate use of nuclear weapons on civilians not once but twice. Using a small one at first and then a bigger one the 2nd time clearly shows the intention was to kill as many Japanese as possible. The thing is no matter how you guys paint the USA , there's no part both in history and presently where the USA comes out as the good guys. No amount of whitewashing cane erase what they have done and still doing.
Did the japa themselves care about their civilians? They were given a chance to surrender after the first one did they surrender?

The use of nuclear bomb on Japan decisively ended that war. Made Japan a very peaceful nation today. Did you know what the Japanese did to the Chinese Philippinos and Koreans.



Person like you can say the death of 3 million German civillians in world war 2 made them the good guys.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m):
Vic2023:
pls don't derail the post, I'm coming for you! I postponed this visitation because you said you were not around so when will you be around?
Give me the day And Time
You can argue with vocabulary.com
No wonder you wrote WAEC and JAMB several times.
Ota Efun Junction. Just beside former NIPCO filling station. Will be there to pick you up. Safe journey. And make sure you are well dressed, I don't want people seeing me as someone flexing extreme power on a person who looks deranged. I don't want people pitying you.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 11:15am On Dec 19, 2024
usmanpogo:
The relationship between the Japs and the Americans before Pearl harbor attack was really complicated.
It's not as simple as people like Obedience 40 would like you to believe it was or as innocent as Jovi makes it seem.

The Japs kicked out the Europeans from Japan after uncovering the Europeans were trying to divide the country using Catholicism as a smokescreen.

Japan enacted the Sakoku policy to maintain stability, social order, and control over external influences. The policy was implemented by the Tokugawa shogunate during the Edo period (1603-1868). Try watching the Shogun series, it gives a brief context into the reasons for the Sakoku policy.

The Japanese isolationist policy, known as Sakoku, was a series of directives that limited Japan's interactions with the outside world for over 200 years. It also slowed the technological advancement.

The Japs were confined within their borders and shielded from outside influence until the US decided to play God.

Commodore Matthew Perry's arrival in Japan in 1853 and his subsequent demands were a key factor in Japan's industrialization and modernization, which helped Japan avoid being subjugated by Western powers.

Commodore Mathew Perry forced the Japanese to open their ports for the U.S fleet and establish trade relations with the US through series of gunboat diplomacy. Gunboat diplomacy is a foreign policy tactic that uses a country's naval power to force other nations to comply with its demands. It involves displaying and deploying military might to force the other country to capitulate.

The Meji Restoration

The main goal of the Meiji Restoration was to rapidly modernize Japan to a point of equality with other major powers. Until 1853, Japan had been a backward and isolated country, still caught up in feudalism and military governance, but this all changed when US Commodore Matthew Perry arrived with a naval armada.

After the Meiji Restoration, Japan expanded its territory through imperialism. Japan’s process of imperial expansion, however, put it on a collision course with the United States, particularly in relation to China.

The US and Japan were interested in the Chinese markets and the Asian resources. It got more serious when the Japs installed their puppets in Manchuria.

The year 1931 Japan took its first step toward building a Japanese empire in eastern Asia by invading Manchuria, a fertile, resource-rich province in northern China. Japan installed a puppet government in Manchuria, renaming it Manchukuo. But the United States refused to recognize the new regime or any other forced upon China.

Despite the hostilities from both sides, US companies continued to supply Japan with the steel and petroleum it needed for its fight against China long after the conflict between the countries escalated into a full-scale war in 1937.

However, the isolationist movement back in the United States gaining momentum argued the country had no business in the international conflicts developing around the world. Even the Japanese military’s murder of between 100,000 and 200,000 helpless Chinese military prisoners and civilians and the rape of tens of thousands of Chinese women during the 1937 Rape of Nanking failed to immediately shift US foreign policy.


In fewer terse, the brief historical highlights above, showed the U.S created the monster( imperialist Japs) and also showed both nations are no different from each other.
Nice I'll read up on this one and add it to my archive. We learn everyday.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:16am On Dec 19, 2024
obedience4:
Thank you sir.

The Japanese had a long standing samurai code pass from generations know as the "Bushido" this means it was more honourable to die in battle than to surrender. The Japanese were never going to surrender the home islands without a fight.

If you read Emperor Hirohito speech ending the war you won't see any reference about 'surrender' or 'defeat', but he simply ascribed that the war 'did not turn in Japan's favour. The Japanese needed something extreme to bring the war to an end.
This was the height of how proud the Japanese people are.

The nazis didn't nuked anyone but killed more civilians than anyone else in ww2.
🤝🤝. Thank you
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 11:20am On Dec 19, 2024
usmanpogo:
I observed my recent submission ruffled some feathers and I have read some of the rebuttals from Mr Gbadebo and Mr Obedience. In this regard, I would address their concerns

Firstly, I agreed the relationship between the Japs and the US became irreversibly acrimonious and bellicious after the latter seized the assets of the former and also placed embargoes on oil and scrap metal sales.
The oil was needed for the survival of the Japs, the US made sure the Japs weren't able to purchase oil from other sources either.

Secondly, the Sakoku policy was implemented by preventing and killing any Japs that tried to leave the country, no one was allowed to leave and no one was allowed into the country. Total isolation from the outside world. They had no imperialist ambition for more than 200 years until the US forced their hands. This bears no semblance with the example of China Mr Obedience cited above.

Thirdly, the arrival of commodore Mathew Perry with his naval fleet did not only intimidate the Japs but the Japs realized the world has changed and they either modernize or perish, hence the Meji Restoration.

Finally, both the US and Japan strived to dominate the Pacific and obtain the resources that lies within. Both countries were imperialist, you can't tell me the reason the US was interested in the Pacific was just to trade and share Christmas gifts.

If the tables were reversed and it was the Japs who had the nuclear weapons first, they won't hesitate either.

Pearl harbor was the major military base the US used in its operations in the Pacific during the conflicts, the surprise attack by the Japs was supposed to force the US to negotiate because the Japs knew they were no match for the US. However, it only angered the US and they had their pound of flesh.
Thank you.
However, I believe we need to take a deeper look at the word "imperialist"
Not today. Thanks all the same. I really learn a lot from you.
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