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Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Omoawoke(m): 10:09pm On Dec 19, 2024
Okiton:
You are a mad man

Most of you run into a thread on a social media. Just to comment trashes.
Most companies paying taxes to Lagos State government are not operating there. They only do so cos their heads offices are located there. However, companies who pays major in taxes are oil companies and these Oil companies operates in South South and Southeast states of Nigeria
Okiton the Tax analyst!
What do you know? lol, you know nothing about how it works so shut up and stop speaking beyond your brain capacity
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Omoawoke(m): 10:10pm On Dec 19, 2024
yemmight:
Abokis they cheat us no be small,
South east dey cheat us !
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by aswani(m): 10:15pm On Dec 19, 2024
Gboom:
Tax reforms is making provision for source where the VAT is consumed and not the headquarters syndrome.
I thought it was as well but too many people conflate things here and act like they know what they are saying.

Bottom line is States need to work harder, laziness and entitlement is too entrenched.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by seunayantokun(m): 10:17pm On Dec 19, 2024
brain54:
Look at benue state...

Only me can contribute that amount sef.


Some of these states cannot sustain themselves.

And they are still clamoring for more states that can only leeach on others to survive.

Something is also fishy about kano contributing on 9 billion Inspite of its huge size when a state like oyo is doing 32 billion and smaller less industrial states are doing more numbers comparatively!
The only things they contribute are huge numbers of votes manufactured by underage children and ghosts. Population figures up there is a fraud.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by EJEGBULEJE: 10:27pm On Dec 19, 2024
pandax:
Na Lie ooo!. Lagos is robbing every other state using the HQ rule!
That's right, that must be changed...
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by CzarChris(m): 10:29pm On Dec 19, 2024
brain54:
As far as I am concerned...

Those are two of the most useless states.

Despite receiving huge allocations and their relatively small size and populations they still have the least to show in terms of developments!
I believe Delta and Bayelsa State's revenue is way much more than that, but due to a lot of pilfering by revenue collectors amounts to that low returns.
Na Imo State own pain me pass, a state with so much potentials all lying waste and not being utilized, just building hotels, filling stations and bars everywhere. Build something productive and reduce the unemployment rate, but no the so called leaders would rather keep the citizens impoverished and keep them as zombies for the next election and the girls as intimacy gadgets, no more. By the Grace of God with this new tax bill nothing like Civil Servant state again, everybody utilize what you have and get bumper allocation.

NOTE: This tax bill will call for a lot of accountability, many companies will be forced to relocate their HQ to the actual states that they are making their money from(case in point the oil companies). States like Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Cross River and Akwa Ibom will be forced to get their seaports working then Lagos massive allocations will then drop to it's real value. Many States especially in the South East like Anambra and Imo will be forced to make their inland ports operational. This is a very good development.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by EJEGBULEJE: 10:30pm On Dec 19, 2024
FearlessYoruba:
Then stop crying because the bill was sponsored by formal Lagos governor
Be objective, the guy is making sense the VAT from HQ needs to be changed, you pay VAT to the business state of Operations,not HQ in another state.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:30pm On Dec 19, 2024
EJEGBULEJE:
Be objective, the guy is making sense the VAT from HQ needs to be changed, you pay VAT to the business state of Operations,not HQ in another state.
What's the tax reform bills all about then?
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:31pm On Dec 19, 2024
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Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:32pm On Dec 19, 2024
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Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:32pm On Dec 19, 2024
babajero:
Lagos is robbing all Eastern and southern states.
Eastern state has nothing to be robbed
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:33pm On Dec 19, 2024
onuman:
THE CURRENT OBSESSION OVER LAGOS VAT BY TINUBU'S PEOPLE IS DIVERSIONARY PROPAGANDA - DECEPTIVE CHEST BEATING.

Yoruba and far north Reps rejected the minimal increase in percentage from derivation on proceeds from crude oil asked by SS and SE reps at the National Political Reforms Conference during Obasanjo's civilian administration. The conference abruptly ended from there.
VAT Is never Nigeria's primary source of sustenance.
Okay Mr Osu
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:33pm On Dec 19, 2024
Ezmans:
if they move back Lagos I'll collapse
Let it collapse,is it your collapse?
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Justiceleague1: 10:34pm On Dec 19, 2024
FearlessYoruba:
Eastern state has nothing to be robbed
No mind that mods favorite guinea pig,how can Lagos be robbing them

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Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:34pm On Dec 19, 2024
prophetfire:
You are dead wrong. All MTN vat is credited to Lagos because that's where their headquarters is even though the man in that forest in Taraba state used MTN to make calls.
So the law that makes the place where the headquarters of a company is sited being the beneficiary state of their vat and other forms of tax is what favour Lagos and some states.
First bank for instance, even though they have branches all over Nigeria but their vat is credited to Lagos because that's where the headquarters is located.
So Lagos is actually robbing other states.
That same law also applies to where the registration address of a company is.
If you registered your company is Sokoto, but you are doing the business in Kano, Sokoto is where your vat and some other taxes go.
That's some of the things that the new tax law wants to change.
However the reason why the north is opposed to it is because sharing formula will also change. You collect something synonymous with what you contribute, no longer use of population and landmass.
Therefore states like Lagos though their contribution will reduce but they still have high numbers because of the volume of business activities and will still get something higher than others.
Northern states will now have to work hard to increase business activities in their states, and that's why they're screaming blue murder.
That's why Lagos landlord want to change the status quo, don't you think every other state should support the bills?
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by FearlessYoruba: 10:35pm On Dec 19, 2024
Ezmans:
remove what other states living in lagos contributed in lagos what remains?
Let them take whatever trash they contributed back to their state.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Odingo1: 10:43pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
Fine, who after Tax Reforms have kicked in, will stop Kano state giving MTN a good deal to set up their headquarters in Kano stae? Or some of their factories producing cards etc up there.

It is the laziness mindset of not thinking out of the box because we are guaranteed monies monty that we don't have to account for that nerds changing, and not just for Northern states.
You are still not understanding it, it doesn’t matter where the company headquarters is located, what matters here is where the produced items is consumed and that where the VAT goes. Where a company locate their headquarters or production factory doesn’t matter. The state that is hosting the company will collect yearly turnover revenue tax from the company not the VAT of items produced by the company in state A and consumed in state B. State B will be credited with the VAT.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by MightySparrow: 10:59pm On Dec 19, 2024
Elidrisy20:
oil producing states are get less
That is the strategy of Tinubu to straighten things. It is difficult. The northerners are the ones controlling the oil block and the receivers of the subsidies and beneficiaries of the VAT.

So, things have to be straightened out.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by MightySparrow: 11:00pm On Dec 19, 2024
Pootle:
if anything clear for you for nigeria jus know say u dey on colos
I guess you an Igbo bragger.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by bigboa: 11:01pm On Dec 19, 2024
Odingo1:
You are still not understanding it, it doesn’t matter where the company headquarters is located, what matters here is where the produced items is consumed and that where the VAT goes. Where a company locate their headquarters doesn’t matter.
Very succinctly put.

VAT is a consumption tax. This means it measures the economic activities reported in each state.
Some states like Kano may have a higher level of commercial/economic activity but what VAT is telling us is that a large portion of that data is not being captured.
The idea is simple: State governors have the responsibility to improve their states commercial and economic levels which will then boost the microeconomy (ie standard/cost of living metrics) in the states. The federal government's responsibility is to manage the macroeconomy (security, exchange rate, foreign policy) which it is already doing.

For too long, the federal government has taken on the responsibilities of the states and local governments and while not being able to cater to those responsibilities adequately, the federal government continues to falter and fail while handing a free pass to the state governors who feed fat while doing nothing.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by frankson1(m): 11:05pm On Dec 19, 2024
jmoore:
How many times will they tell you that VAT system is flawed in Nigeria? It doesn't record VAT on point of sale, which is what is obtainable in a working system.

Example: Lagos is 'collecting' all the VAT from MTN because the headquarters of MTN is Lagos.
You're here with your MTN bullshiit talks again like they're your only problem undecided

Why not state all the organisations and companies headquartered in Lagos undecidedna only MTN you know

The Lagos you hate so much contributes much but gain little and I know you're blind to this.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by izubext007: 11:09pm On Dec 19, 2024
cheating
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by frankson1(m): 11:13pm On Dec 19, 2024
pandax:
Na Lie ooo!. Lagos is robbing every other state using the HQ rule!
You know this but still against the new tax reform bill undecided

Na your type still dey shout that the new bill is to empower Lagos state.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Gboom: 11:13pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
I thought it was as well but too many people conflate things here and act like they know what they are saying.

Bottom line is States need to work harder, laziness and entitlement is too entrenched.
Say it loud.

If FIRS can capture 50% of the VAT, its revenue will be like 4 times.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Odingo1: 11:14pm On Dec 19, 2024
bigboa:
Very succinctly put.

VAT is a consumption tax. This means it measures the economic activities reported in each state.
Some states like Kano may have a higher level of commercial/economic activity but what VAT is telling us is that a large portion of that data is not being captured.
The idea is simple: State governors have the responsibility to improve their states commercial and economic levels which will then boost the microeconomy (ie standard/cost of living metrics) in the states. The federal government's responsibility is to manage the macroeconomy (security, exchange rate, foreign policy) which it is already doing.

For too long, the federal government has taken on the responsibilities of the states and local governments and while not being able to cater to those responsibilities adequately, the federal government continues to falter and fail while handing a free pass to the state governors who feed fat while doing nothing.
That is the fact, but the problem in Nigeria is that the North is afraid of doing it like that because there is high poverty rate in the North, so basing VAT on place of consumption may affect the north.
How many household in the North uses phone or internet. They only listen to Radio 📻.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by Shikena(m): 11:21pm On Dec 19, 2024
I'm here to check the states in the bottom 12.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by aswani(m): 11:22pm On Dec 19, 2024
Odingo1:
You are still not understanding it, it doesn’t matter where the company headquarters is located, what matters here is where the produced items is consumed and that where the VAT goes. Where a company locate their headquarters or production factory doesn’t matter. The state that is hosting the company will collect yearly turnover revenue tax from the company not the VAT of items produced by the company in state A and consumed in state B. State B will be credited with the VAT.
Thanks, I did understand it as you explained, then a poster turned up and started confidently talking about Headquarters which discombobulated me completely.

Dis Nairaland don tìre mi sef but I no fit comot sha.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by babajero(m): 11:25pm On Dec 19, 2024
FearlessYoruba:
Eastern state has nothing to be robbed
East is the China and America of Nigeria combined. No matter the political sabotage the East will forever triumph.
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by ibabz(m): 2:10am On Dec 20, 2024
Why is everyone fixated on TAX reform while ignoring resource control, which seems far fairer? Lagos retains just 17.90% of the taxes it generates, but what about Delta State, Nigeria's richest oil state—how much does it really earn from the crude oil extracted within its borders? Clearly, common sense isn't so common. #babzview
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by correctguy101(m): 2:13am On Dec 20, 2024
brain54:
As far as I am concerned...

Those are two of the most useless states.

Despite receiving huge allocations and their relatively small size and populations they still have the least to show in terms of developments!
Secondus ...


No ...

Seconded

SMH
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by correctguy101(m): 2:20am On Dec 20, 2024
kaltonga:
With this tax bill and the result am seeing so far, I support the President fully on this.. Some will want to argue that is all about Lagos but it's not so
If my state Imo, will generate this poor and other states, especially in the south, then it goes to show how lazy and unproductive our governors are and with this bill all of them must sit up.. Any idiot that is against this bill is an enemny of the masses and should be stoned.
You can't tell me with all the SMEs in Aba and even in Anambara they are generating this poor volume in Vat that goes to show it's easy they are been lazy to collect the VAT or they are simply under declaring the actual amount based on the feeding bottle system.

So, President Tinubu must be encouraged to make this bill a reality, let we citizens at least for once start holding our governors to account not all the time FG.. Rubbish!
Lazy to collect? Won't ever happen...

Under declaring? Exactly what's going on..

And it's never news that the governors are lazy and unproductive.. eediots, d whole lot of them..
Re: What Some States Contributed To The VAT Pool And What They Received - Nov 2024 by OVB123: 2:25am On Dec 20, 2024
MightySparrow:
They say Ekiti is the poorest how come the VAT is bigger than these states,?

16. Èkìtì 1.84bn

28.Cross Rivers: N933.70m
29. Ondo: N931.28m
30. Bauchi: N976m
31. Abia: N705.39m
32. Ebonyi: N545.36m
33. Imo: N600.30m
34. Osun: N502.84m
35. Kebbi: N413.85m
36. Benue: N357.51m
I don't understand how this VAT is collected from states.
Looking at Ekiti earning more than Ogun, Osun, Ondo and even Abia state, makes me to wonder the yardstick used in measuring VAT of different states.
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