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The bolded is true.

For your mind now, Omotola na rich person.
Those yeyebrities like Mr. Patrick na rich pple abi?
You can not become rich by earning salary.
Those rich men you know were not rich, the person who was rich was the one paying them that salary.
No rich man wey get factory wey dey manufacture anything for dis Naija go leave am, go wipe nyash or shove snow.

It's easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

Japa if you wish, na your choice.

RodgersAkpafu:
The bolded is not true sir
I personally know very rich men who have QUEITLY relocated with their families away from Nigeria

Do you know how many Nigeiran celebrities collected EB5 visas over the last 10 years ?
They are leaving in droves, but the diff is that they are doing it with stealth, and quietly.

When Omotola and co snuck out, they did not bring microphone out to announce
Neither did Teju, John, etc....

They just pack their bag and waka, despite all they had

TheFinesseKid:
lol. It's like you're enjoying this ba. The goal like I always say is to skill up and get jobs remotely and settle. I don't gbadun japa at all. I'd only japa for health reasons. Just like northern Nigeria, in a country like US, you could be minding your own business and one craze man would carry out mass shooting for no reason. Abeg ..home is sweet, it's just our useless polithievcians

seriously, you just said my mind

adonainana:
It is not misleading sir , before the loophole closed, dependants who could pose as family member came on in numbers

The uk govement didn’t verify whether it was actually true they were ur family members or not so all you just had was to pay the visa fees for each so called family member

The loophole was called dependant route by Nigeria visa agents but it’s closed now so no point arguing about it

Are u making sense at all?
U can only bring a dependent who is ur spouse e.g 1 dependant spouse and dependent children. Since u are entitled to just one spouse and several numbers of children who technically cant work

Please note that some main applicant sold their spouse dependant slot for as high as 7 to 10 million naira. But this is just one dependant.

You can't pack people's children as ur child dependant as it is not profitable to do so. Think befor u talk

Example is a man coming to uk to study. You can bring ur wife and children over unlimited but note that those children cant work as anyone over 18 years old is not qualified as demandant child.

So technically, yes u can bring anyone u like as ur wife as far as u can prove it but packing extra adults as u claim is false..

I have a friend who are 6 i numbers. The man n wife n their 4 children (5,2,8, 10 years old). These children can't work. They constitute a burden as they rent 3 bedroom flat. And now they want to proceed to post study visa they are now looking for 16800 pounds to apply for a graduate visa.


Even till today u can bring ur dependant but under master by research or PhD programme. But it will be foolishness to pack children to UK as dependent cos one spouse will have to stay home with minors while the other is working. If u leave ur children unattended to. Ur neighbours could report u to d police n u lost ur kids. Most couples are leaving their children in Nigeria here first to hustle

004gist:
Are u making sense at all?
U can only bring a dependent who is ur spouse e.g wife and children.
Yes some main applicant brought or sold theie dependant slot for as high as 7 to 10 million naira. But this is just one dependant.

You can't pack people's children as ur dependant as it is not profitable to do so. Think befor u talk

Example is a man coming to uk to study. You can bring ur wife and children over unlimited but note that those children cant work as anyone over 18 years old is not qualified as demandant child.

So technically, yes u can bring anyone u like as ur wife as far as u can prove it but packing extra adults as u claim is false..

I have a friend who are 6 i numbers. The man n wife n their 4 children (5,2,8, 10 years old). These children can't work. They constitute a burden as they rent 3 bedroom flat. And now they want to proceed to post study visa they are now looking for 16800 pounds to apply for a graduate visa.


Even till today u can bring ur dependant but under master by research or PhD programme. But it will be foolishness to pack children to UK as dependent cos one spouse will have to stay home with minors while the other is working. If u leave ur children unattended to. Ur neighbours could report u to d police n u lost ur kids. Most couples are leaving their children in Nigeria here first to hustle

Why do you Nigerians have a problem with comprehension
I said people pretended they were siblings and family members of the main applicant

And the uk govt was not checking whether surnames were matching or whatever

So anybody the visa agent connected you too is now main applicant child for the sake of the vis application

Why are you telling me story of your friend

Abi what else is so difficult to explain again in what I said

A lot of people all of a sudden had 15 children and UK home office didn’t bother to check and they all got in via the main applicant who was doing thier masters

Simple people that have exploited the loophole already and they are inside the uk now as we speak what’s the point of arguing again

Besides before the loophole closed you could bring dependants in whether they were children, cousins so far you say they were ur family members

The word on the application form was family members

adonainana:
Why do you Nigerians have a problem with comprehension
I said people pretended they were siblings and family members of the main applicant

And the uk govt was not checking whether surnames were matching or whatever

So anybody the visa agent connected you too is now main applicant child for the sake of the vis application

Why are you telling me story of your friend

Abi what else is so difficult to explain again in what I said

A lot of people all of a sudden had 15 children and UK home office didn’t bother to check and they all got in via the main applicant who was doing thier masters

Simple people that have exploited the loophole already and they are inside the uk now as we speak what’s the point of arguing again

U said that people packed up to 20... E.g
Like am coming to uk and as a main applicant i packed 2 to 20 full grown adult as dependant. That is why people that dont have shishi found their way to UK.
This is exactly what u said.

How does that happen? Yes someon can sale a spouse dependant visa... Just one spouse u are entitled to. And it cost 5 million to even 10 million as at last year.

U can't just say am coming to UK then u pack 4 adult and join them under u as dependant it has never worked that way as u claim the only way is if they are children and its not profitable to pack children cos they can't work

British government dont need ur name to match before they agree. Me and my wife don't bare same surname still they approve our visa. Not everyone like changing surname. There are proves to show like WhatsApp chat history, pictures taken together, bills u both paid together in 2 to 5 years back to show u have known prior now

Lastly dependant visa has not close. Its open till today but reserved for master by research or PhD or fully funded scholarship student.
If u have the connect u can still buy a dependant visa slot. One was advertised in our group last few months but again it cost a lot.

franvincoop:
The bolded is true.

For your mind now, Omotola na rich person.
Those yeyebrities like Mr. Patrick na rich pple abi?
You can not become rich by earning salary.
Those rich men you know were not rich, the person who was rich was the one paying them that salary.
No rich man wey get factory wey dey manufacture anything for dis Naija go leave am, go wipe nyash or shove snow.

It's easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

Japa if you wish, na your choice.

Somebody who can afford to run EB5 Visa IS NOT POOR BUT RICH in Any country of the world
Go and check the requirements and see for yourself

Besides, even the ones who live in Nigeria
Most of their kids don't
So what are we talking bout ?

004gist:
U said that people packed up to 20... E.g
Like am coming to uk and as a main applicant i packed 2 to 20 full grown adult as dependant. That is why people that dont have shishi found their way to UK.
This is exactly what u said.

How does that happen? Yes someon can sale a spouse dependant visa... Just one spouse u are entitled to. And it cost 5 million to even 10 million as at last year.

U can't just say am coming to UK then u pack 4 adult and join them under u as dependant it has never worked that way as u claim the only way is if they are children and its not profitable to pack children cos they can't work

British government dont need ur name to match before they agree. Me and my wife don't bare same surname still they approve our visa. Not everyone like changing surname. There are proves to show like WhatsApp chat history, pictures taken together, bills u both paid together in 2 to 5 years back to show u have known prior now

Lastly dependant visa has not close. Its open till today but reserved for master by research or PhD or fully funded scholarship student.
If u have the connect u can still buy a dependant visa slot. One was advertised in our group last few months but again it cost a lot.

For someone who claims to be educated, you really have some comprehension issues, no cap.

The person you quoted used that expression as a hyperbole and you have been pontificating over it
Na wa for you

Theoretically back then, you can carry as many dependants as you have, (as long as it it within the strict definition of dependants as per home office) as long as you can show the proof of funds to back each dependants
There was no legal cap

So yea, the guy, using that as a figure of speech was not out of place

RodgersAkpafu:
For someone who claims to be educated, you really have some comprehension issues, no cap.

The person you quoted used that expression as a hyperbole and you have been pontificating over it
Na wa for you

Theoretically back then, you can carry as many dependants as you have, (as long as it it within the strict definition of dependants as per home office) as long as you can show the proof of funds to back each dependants
There was no legal cap

So yea, the guy, using that as a figure of speech was not out of place

Many dependant how? Children or adults.


In ur many dependant.. How many adults?

Olabestonic001:
Lolz and it's obvious you're caught up in the left-wing Woke Mind virus😅

Why should you a Nigerian be more interested in how the US should man it's border? Why should you want a country to allow illegal immigrants to continue to overrun it's system?

I know US has EB3, EB2, EB2, H-1B, L1, O1 etc Visas for those who want to work there and transition to GC and citizenship. Why do some love using B1/B2 and crossing the Southern Border as their preferred routes?

I support the US cracking down on illegal immigrants crossing. Go through the normal route and you'd be granted every right a citizen is entitled to.

I support the bolded as well..... without the racist undercurrent to it
Yea, I'm a Liberal, not exactly a leftie, (maybe, but not far left)
Why will I be a part of the right wing misogynistic racist disinformation ecosystem?

004gist:
Many dependant how? Children or adults.


In ur many dependant.. How many adults?

If a man had seven kids
he could carry them all as his dependants
If he had adopted them legally, by default they have become his dependant

That's the thing
There was no cap on the number of dependants

Wife and kids under 18 (if I remember well the age limit) are all dependants

No cap on the number of kids, biological or adopted

RodgersAkpafu:
If a man had seven kids
he could carry them all as his dependants
If he had adopted them legally, by default they have become his dependant

That's the thing
There was no cap on the number of dependants

Wife and kids under 18 (if I remember well the age limit) are all dependants

No cap on the number of kids, biological or adopted

Thats what i am trying to clarify that u can only bring as many dependant children as u claim they are urs but u can't pack as many adult its impossible...

I agree u pack many children as dependant and end up dashing the UK government money because economically u are the one cheating ur self. The children can't work, u spend money on health insurance and, travel expenses, big house etc all waste.

004gist:
U said that people packed up to 20... E.g
Like am coming to uk and as a main applicant i packed 2 to 20 full grown adult as dependant. That is why people that dont have shishi found their way to UK.
This is exactly what u said.

How does that happen? Yes someon can sale a spouse dependant visa... Just one spouse u are entitled to. And it cost 5 million to even 10 million as at last year.

U can't just say am coming to UK then u pack 4 adult and join them under u as dependant it has never worked that way as u claim the only way is if they are children and its not profitable to pack children cos they can't work

British government dont need ur name to match before they agree. Me and my wife don't bare same surname still they approve our visa. Not everyone like changing surname. There are proves to show like WhatsApp chat history, pictures taken together, bills u both paid together in 2 to 5 years back to show u have known prior now

Lastly dependant visa has not close. Its open till today but reserved for master by research or PhD or fully funded scholarship student.
If u have the connect u can still buy a dependant visa slot. One was advertised in our group last few months but again it cost a lot.

Baba believe it or not , non family members tagged along with main applicants to get that student visa when it was still way much open , master by research is the first year you do before a phd and trust me its just not possible how it was

Even gan im sure you know someone who escaped from nigeria all of a sudden that you never thought would ever be able to leave . thats how massive the loophole was

Anybody could japa 2 years ago

just find someone that is going for masters and tag along

adonainana:
Baba believe it or not , non family members tagged along with main applicants to get that student visa when it was still way much open , master by research is the first year you do before a phd and trust me its just not possible how it was

Even gan im sure you know someone who escaped from nigeria all of a sudden that you never thought would ever be able to leave . thats how massive the loophole was

Anybody could japa 2 years ago

just find someone that is going for masters and tag along

U are neive to think that people dont have cash to spend... The person U thought that couldn't make it out from Nigeria actually spent huge amount of money on that

Dependant visa can be bought as at today... Bring money u go buy am currently i have one for Finland

004gist:
U are neive to think that people dont have cash to spend...

Dependant visa can be bought as at today... Bring money u go buy am currently i have one for Finland

Finland ko, Iceland ni, we are talking about uk visa you are saying i should bring money for something that probably is free

How did the discussion change from uk dependants to finland

RodgersAkpafu:
I support the bolded as well..... without the racist undercurrent to it
Yea, I'm a Liberal, not exactly a leftie, (maybe, but not far left)
Why will I be a part of the right wing misogynistic racist disinformation ecosystem?

I am a Centrist and have no ideological alignment with either camp. I don't like either the racist righties or the preachy/holier-than-thou attitudes of the lefties. I just try to see the sense in pushes.

adonainana:
Finland ko, Iceland ni, we are talking about uk visa you are saying i should bring money for something that probably is free

How did the discussion change from uk dependants to finland

Am trying tl show u how that of UK was don n sold in black market. Its not cheap. People sold houses to run the package..

For your information if u need UK Dependant u can get it today it all boils down to ur money. No one tagged people free n u can only tagged a wife or husband as dependant and as many children under 18 but they won't work to earn money

Finland is another choice country not when u see people u don't expect to leave Nigeria, now left n start making it tomorrow in Finland u now start complaining

004gist:
Am trying tl show u how that of UK was don n sold in black market. Its not cheap. People sold houses to run the package..

For your information if u need UK Dependant u can get it today it all boils down to ur money. No one tagged people free n u can only tagged a wife or husband as dependant and as many children under 18 but they won't work to earn money

Finland is another choice country not when u see people u don't expect to leave Nigeria, now left n start making it tomorrow in Finland u now start complaining

who said anything about money, all i said before the loophole closed non family members were being attached to the main dependant applicant, even if you had 50 of them it all went through

adonainana:
who said anything about money, all i said before the loophole closed non family members were being attached to the main dependant applicant, even if you had 50 of them it all went through

In the 50 how many adults please?

004gist:
In the 50 how many adults please?

They are all in the uk now please go and ask them

How many times did I say that cousins, nephews were all the classed as dependants and all of them could come in and Nigerians exploited the situation

It has not simmered down. I have been a part of some Canada Express Entry groups since February when I received an ITA and people are still being added to these groups.. from ITA to passport submission to arrival in Canada... we still have A LOT of Nigerians been added and leaving groups as they progress. The noise of japa came mostly from UK student route.

Forget it... people still dey japa through other routes even with the depreciating Naira...

DeltaBachelor:
It has simmered down a bit due to the cost and economic situation in the country. I don't know if this was intentional but things are very difficult now for more than 70% of Nigerians. The remaining 30% that can afford their 3 square meal don't have much in their savings to Japa.


Anyways, for the minority that still want to make a better life for their family and unborn generation, don't give up. You can still fulfill that Japa dream. For International English exam runs, contact us via our signature ( Serious candidates only please )

Myrepublic:
And there are some that might never make it that big ,or fulfill their destinies until they change location.. So they should continue praying in vein here, right?

Exactly. Tbh, the best thing is to commit suicide if one cannot japa o. I mean what else are we going to use our life to do if we’re unable to move to a white man land? Nobody can become successful in Nigeria

adonainana:
They are all in the uk now please go and ask them

How many times did I say that cousins, nephews were all the classed as dependants and all of them could come in and Nigerians exploited the situation

How many of them are adults.. E.g over 18 please excluding main applicant ?

If u can't answer this question then u take a sit

Pre Japa documents are so expensive this days. From paying for Ielts exam, Tuberculosis money, police clearance certificate, Red cross certificate, Care certificate, Biometric fees visa fees COS fees , Flight ticketing, unforseen contingency fees, probability of being refused despite getting all the above documents.

Alakoriomo:
Exactly. Tbh, the best thing is to commit suicide if one cannot japa o. I mean what else are we going to use our life to do if we’re unable to move to a white man land? Nobody can become successful in Nigeria

People make it here in Nigeria,but a wise man still understands that destinies differs.. What works for A,might not work for B.

And not even now,when Nigeria is making it extra for hard and smart workers look lazy.

If you are not connected or from a rich background,you might just settle for average life. Except you are among the fraud gang, politicians,drug lords ,the billionaires club gang them( aka ritualists)

Just a few have that opportunity from rising from scratch to top , without doing the negative things. All thanks to the entertainment industry,the industry has really helped a lot of folks. Even though there are still dark sides.

In all destinies differs,where Mr A got his gold,might be different where where Mr B will get his Diamonds..

SAMAJ:
Japa has reduced because Tinubu has fixed Nigeria.

No. I don’t think so. Things aren’t really better yet like that. Maybe for your side, things aren’t okay but fingers are not equal. I pray that we all succeed

RodgersAkpafu:
The bolded is not true sir
I personally know very rich men who have QUEITLY relocated with their families away from Nigeria

Do you know how many Nigeiran celebrities collected EB5 visas over the last 10 years ?
They are leaving in droves, but the diff is that they are doing it with stealth, and quietly.

When Omotola and co snuck out, they did not bring microphone out to announce
Neither did Teju, John, etc....

They just pack their bag and waka, despite all they had

You mean a large number of Nigerian celebrities can dole out $800k usd to get an EB5 green card? Hope you know this isn’t a small amount of money? Even an overwhelming number of working Americans cannot dream of this kind of money. Please check your statistics again

Olabestonic001:
EB5 Visa and Nigeria is droves using it should not be used in the same sentence, my guy. How many Nigerians fit spare $ 800k to $1.05Mn (NGN 1.25Bn to NGN 1.58Bn)? Not in droves number. Just some tens of guys can do that in Nigeria.

You mean a large number of Nigerian celebrities can dole out $800k usd to get an EB5 green card? Rare number of people who have this money in Nigeria will want to spend in such a manner. Hope you know this isn’t a small amount of money? Even an overwhelming number of working Americans cannot dream of this kind of money. Please check your statistics again

RodgersAkpafu:
The bolded is not true sir
I personally know very rich men who have QUEITLY relocated with their families away from Nigeria

Do you know how many Nigeiran celebrities collected EB5 visas over the last 10 years ?
They are leaving in droves, but the diff is that they are doing it with stealth, and quietly.

When Omotola and co snuck out, they did not bring microphone out to announce
Neither did Teju, John, etc....

They just pack their bag and waka, despite all they had

celebrities in Nigeria cant afford EB5 visa. Most of them went with visiting visa,asylum , some the children they gave birth to there petition for them, some went with school route, some marriage.

Noblemanonpoint:
Everything isn't about the dollars, Resounding Yes, but most of the people "japaing" are economic migrants.
No rich person leaving his soft life in Nigeria to go start afresh, let's be real.
In case you didn't notice, Rich Nigerians live in Nigeria, they don't relocate.
Many won't even leave Nigeria if they were earning in dollars.
I personally would like to relocate to Brazil later since I'm in tech and work remote. it might be a personal preference for him as well.

Atiku lives mostly in Dubai, Otedola is mostly in London, Buhari’s wife relocated to Dubai at some point . If Nigeria is that Good why do they give birth to their kids abroad or move them abroad. Many of the rich guys have Caribbean passports too that enables them to move globally worldwide . Dey play

ednut1:
celebrities in Nigeria cant afford EB5 visa. Most of them went with visiting visa,asylum , some the children they gave birth to there petition for them, some went with school route, some marriage.

Right

Noblemanonpoint:
Everything isn't about the dollars, Resounding Yes, but most of the people "japaing" are economic migrants.
No rich person leaving his soft life in Nigeria to go start afresh, let's be real.
In case you didn't notice, Rich Nigerians live in Nigeria, they don't relocate.
Many won't even leave Nigeria if they were earning in dollars.
I personally would like to relocate to Brazil later since I'm in tech and work remote. it might be a personal preference for him as well.

Tonye Cole goes to cool off in Switzerland after every election attempt to become Rivers governor. A one-time oil minister died in the same Switzerland. To an extent, wealthy Nigerians live in Nigeria but don't have Nigeria as their only option.

Alakoriomo:
You mean a large number of Nigerian celebrities can dole out $800k usd to get an EB5 green card? Rare number of people who have this money in Nigeria will want to spend in such a manner. Hope you know this isn’t a small amount of money? Even an overwhelming number of working Americans cannot dream of this kind of money. Please check your statistics again

He is on the same page as you. You and him doubt the claim that many Nigerian celebrities apply for the EB5 visa.

Namaster:
Cost to japa has BALLOONED beyond what 90% of Nigerians can afford.

The combination of an UNFORGIVING exchange rate and BRUTAL immigration requirements by several countries have temporarily stemmed the tide of japa.

Plus, the rise of ANTI-IMMIGRANT sentiments has forced some people to reconsider.

Trump's entire campaign HINGED on treating immigrants as bad as possible. And it WORKED!

Pierre Poilievre, Canadian Trump-wannabe, is on his way to power in 2025. He is ANTI-IMMIGRANT too.

Most popular child name in UK for 2024 was Mohammed. UK citizens are SCARED now so they are ANTI-IMMIGRANT too.

Poland too has a LOUD anti-immigrant politician.

MOST of Europe are experiencing a WAVE of anti-immigrant sentiments. They are rolling out measures that'd make immigration into their countries DIFFICULT and UNDESIRABLE.

If you scale through the hurdles, you'd still face HOSTILE indigenes that'd treat you like garbage.

A new era of Nationalism is DAWNING.
NOBODY wants foreigners in their countries.
Nobody!

Japanese are LITERALLY dying out due to low birth rate and they still LOATHE immigrants.

It's time to face your own country. Call politicians to order.

Demand MORE!

You're right. Let's fight to get our country working. Let's face the system.