₦airaland Forum

TheWitchKing:
I day one group for whatsapp, E come be like say Economic hardship no day those ones agenda, Everyday, na visa approved , visa approved i day see there. You go really day wonder if truly na The same Nigeria many of us day, them sef day. And adding to the whatsapp group is strictly by invitation. They do not want people in that group, as the secret goes around them and around them only.

004gist:
Those that did that actually brought their kids... Let me shock u.


I have a friend now they are 6 in Numbers. Now they are running to raise 16800 for their kids and wife and dependant thats after spending or paying 18000 pounds for school fees...

Angy55:
Not on TikTok.
The noise in TikTok is too much

Gerrard59:
I thought primary and secondary education is free in the UK? Or it does not apply to non-citizens?

P.S. This relocation thing should be done when one is either single or married without children.

Gerrard59:
There is really no secret about emigrating from Nigeria. Everything is on the Internet.

004gist:
Yes primary to secondary is free... Education is free for children
But the problem comes when u want to change visa.
From student to post graduate to skill workers visa to even indefinite leave to remain in in thr UK. You discover that you just dashing this people money. Coming to UK with kids has a big disadvantage as well as it has an advantage in terms of u coming with the mindset of coming to cash out. Because u have to Sacrifice a lot for the kids. So its best u come single or u come with no kids yet or dependant children yet. Even the British citizen hardly give birth pass 2 kids cos in this western world having kids is expensive cos u will stay at home and could only take part time jobs as ur husband goes away working. U can't leave ur kids at home all alone. This is the same situation I am. I go to work and my wife stays with the kids. Imagine i am raking 2300 salary and ly wofe is taking 2000 salary. But this is not tje case cos of the child.

RodgersAkpafu:
Somebody who can afford to run EB5 Visa IS NOT POOR BUT RICH in Any country of the world
Go and check the requirements and see for yourself

Besides, even the ones who live in Nigeria
Most of their kids don't
So what are we talking bout ?

ednut1:
celebrities in Nigeria cant afford EB5 visa. Most of them went with visiting visa,asylum , some the children they gave birth to there petition for them, some went with school route, some marriage.

ednut1:
celebrities in Nigeria cant afford EB5 visa. Most of them went with visiting visa,asylum , some the children they gave birth to there petition for them, some went with school route, some marriage.

franvincoop:
Only 53 EB5 visas were issued to Nigerians for 2023 year.
Only 53? Get it.
Meanwhile 7300 US visas were issued to Nigerians in the same year.

Those 53 EB5 visa people na just nationality and residence for their children dem buy through the EB5 visa and most of them are politically exposed persons PEP.
Mind you, their source of wealth and their oil well wey enable dem to apply and get the EB5 visa na naija e dey.
Thank God you know they live in Nigeria and their kids are abroad.
So na Japa be that? Is that your definition of japa?
If Dangote go collect EB5 visa, abi u go talksay Dangote don japa?


The only reason you will be denied visa to paradise is if you are not rich.
Rich people no dey japa.
EB5 visa na just security for their children.
Who dem go leave their oil well or business for?
To go work wetin for US again?
Wetin US go fit give them in terms of wealth wey Naija no fit give them.
It is easier to make a million dollars in Nigeria than to make it in the US, take it or leave it.

franvincoop:
Only 53 EB5 visas were issued to Nigerians for 2023 year.
Only 53? Get it.
Meanwhile 7300 US visas were issued to Nigerians in the same year.

Those 53 EB5 visa people na just nationality and residence for their children dem buy through the EB5 visa and most of them are politically exposed persons PEP.
Mind you, their source of wealth and their oil well wey enable dem to apply and get the EB5 visa na naija e dey.
Thank God you know they live in Nigeria and their kids are abroad.
So na Japa be that? Is that your definition of japa?
If Dangote go collect EB5 visa, abi u go talksay Dangote don japa?


The only reason you will be denied visa to paradise is if you are not rich.
Rich people no dey japa.
EB5 visa na just security for their children.
Who dem go leave their oil well or business for?
To go work wetin for US again?
Wetin US go fit give them in terms of wealth wey Naija no fit give them.
It is easier to make a million dollars in Nigeria than to make it in the US, take it or leave it.

franvincoop:
Na the 3k usd per month job for US na im easy sis?
Its easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

franvincoop:
Na the 3k usd per month job for US na im easy sis?
Its easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

Namaster:
Cost to japa has BALLOONED beyond what 90% of Nigerians can afford.

The combination of an UNFORGIVING exchange rate and BRUTAL immigration requirements by several countries have temporarily stemmed the tide of japa.

Plus, the rise of ANTI-IMMIGRANT sentiments has forced some people to reconsider.

Trump's entire campaign HINGED on treating immigrants as bad as possible. And it WORKED!

Pierre Poilievre, Canadian Trump-wannabe, is on his way to power in 2025. He is ANTI-IMMIGRANT too.

Most popular child name in UK for 2024 was Mohammed. UK citizens are SCARED now so they are ANTI-IMMIGRANT too.

Poland too has a LOUD anti-immigrant politician.

MOST of Europe are experiencing a WAVE of anti-immigrant sentiments. They are rolling out measures that'd make immigration into their countries DIFFICULT and UNDESIRABLE.

If you scale through the hurdles, you'd still face HOSTILE indigenes that'd treat you like garbage.

A new era of Nationalism is DAWNING.
NOBODY wants foreigners in their countries.
Nobody!

Japanese are LITERALLY dying out due to low birth rate and they still LOATHE immigrants.

It's time to face your own country. Call politicians to order.

Demand MORE!

franvincoop:
Na the 3k usd per month job for US na im easy sis?
Its easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

Gerrard59:
Where are they heading to?

Olabestonic001:
And you think the 'dog-whistling' from outsiders like you that they should take in every dick and harry that comes to their country makes sense, right?

Why do immigrants like you love dictating to the owner of the lands what they should do? Can you do this in Qatar or China?

Yes, there are extremists but most of the folks are moderate.

sulaak:
I think Nigerians need to be realistic about their future. When a World Bank official stated that Nigeria would need 15 years of reform to end the present hardship, most Nigerian media houses and intellectuals started attacking the WB and IMF, forgetting that Nigeria's problem is deeper than economic.

The social collapse, the decay in education institutions, and the complete lack of accountable civil and public services will require substantial political and economic reform. We have witnessed how the PHCN, NFF, and NNPC have hindered development.

Gerrard59:
So, why are there more poor people in Nigeria than in many sub-Saharan African countries?
Why are there more black DOLLAR millionaires in South Africa than Nigeria?
Why are African Americans the wealthiest set of black people in the world, rather than Nigeria, the most populous? Mind you, Black South Africans are the second wealthiest group of black people.

Let's be honest with our utterances on Obasanjo's Internet.

Thanks.

casualobserver:
Your leaders are your father, your brother, your uncle your friend, your class mate, your leaders are you. You are no different from your leaders. They are not aliens or foreigners, they are you and if you were in their position you won’t be any different.

The problems of Nigeria are Nigerians themselves.

007lawyer:
https://olamideoyetayolegal.com/how-to-write-a-petition-to-the-efcc-in-nigeria/

A few of them did EB5 then when the exchange rate was not bad, and the amount was 500k USD

Not many
But some did
That'd how a big artiste from the 2face era found his and his family way to USA.....

Some use O1 sha, like that Benjamin guy
many of them sha find their way one way or d other

Gerrard59:
So, why are there more poor people in Nigeria than in many sub-Saharan African countries?
Why are there more black DOLLAR millionaires in South Africa than Nigeria?
Why are African Americans the wealthiest set of black people in the world, rather than Nigeria, the most populous? Mind you, Black South Africans are the second wealthiest group of black people.

Let's be honest with our utterances on Obasanjo's Internet.

Thanks.

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cc: IbeOkehie

RodgersAkpafu:
I will keep it a buck with you
People who have millions of USD in Nigeria are aplenty
Compared to the size of our population, it might look like a fraction
But in absolute numerical terms, them plenty

BUT
Let's keep it a. buck again
We all know how some of them acquired these riches. (starts with a c and ends with e, na 5 letter word)

That's why many of them are hiding and living like 👻
EFCC raid homes and see raw Euro and USD stuffed in these houses all the time.

Arab folks are being called out on their racism all the time
Especially more recently
And unlike what some dummies may believe, now they care about their image as well, that's why they are denying it and trying to "reforn"

If u are active on twitter Gerrard5.9
you would have been familiar with the altercation between black folks (AAs and African alike) and those Arab guys with Palestinian flags
it was interesting to see, which is why I rebuff and laugh at ignorant ppl talking about how "Arabs are not being called out on their racism"

when that scandal came out in Qatar as a documentary, if Arabs were so "wicked"; why didn't the Qataris own it with their full chest and say that we are like that, go to hell (the world Cup situation, you should look it up as well)
Qatar and Kuwait give citizenship to Africans and they represent them in the Olympics and other competitions. If indeed the Arabs are "somehow", how will this even be a case in the first place ?

Alakoriomo:
Across most spaces, including social media, the rate at which people talk about them wishing to japa has reduced. Maybe im just the only one that observes this. Or maybe im wrong. Is it that people have lose interest in japa or everyone already relocated?

Gerrard59:
Tonye Cole goes to cool off in Switzerland after every election attempt to become Rivers governor. A one-time oil minister died in the same Switzerland. To an extent, wealthy Nigerians live in Nigeria but don't have Nigeria as their only option.


He is on the same page as you. You and him doubt the claim that many Nigerian celebrities apply for the EB5 visa.

Wotowotoman:
Tonye Cole lives in Naija and spends most of his time in Nigeria. What that guy is saying is true. If you have money, as in real money, home is always where the heart is. Nigeria’s elites live in Nigeria and only travel abroad for holidays.

Just because you and your fellow economic migrants see japa as a means to end poverty in the family does not mean that it works like that for everyone in Naija. Omo, some people are okay in Naija o.

All these IJGBs loitering around in Naija will give anything to move back to Naija if pepper rest. Know this and know peace!

Alakoriomo:
Well, I don’t think anyone here deny the fact that Japa is for the poor, the average and the middle class. No wealthy Nigerian will wish to Japa under that ridiculous cold, loneliness, depression, fear of unknown and other things to earn $5k (if middle class) working in a decent place or to earn minimum wage (if average before they left) cleaning yansh or packing snow

Kenn55:
There are 2 groups of anti japa people.

Group 1 are the genuine anti japa advocate. They have all it takes to migrate if they want to but they don't want cos they are not interested. They make their point but don't overflog the issue cos it doesn't concern them what others do. They have more important conversations to have than chasing what life people are living abroad. This group don't care whether people japa or not.

Group 2 are the fake anti japa advocates. They became anti japa cos they failed. Either they don't have what it takes to migrate or they were denied visas or they migrated but failed abroad. Cos of frustration and anger, they become anti japa advocate in other to try and feel good. It is this group that are noticing the japa noise because they care

It's obvious you are in Group 2. You keep creating useless threads about the same japa things you are against. Who does that? From creating thread on how a Macdonald worker is richer than Dangote to creating thread about grocery prices in America, for someone who claims to be anti japa, what is your interest?. If you are fixated on something you don't like or care about then there is a problem.
It's like claiming you don't like a babe but the babe's name is always in your mouth. You claim you can't date the babe cos she is not your type yet you are always ranting about the babe. My brother, you like the babe joor just that she no gree you.

My advice for you and others in your group in 2025 is to allow yourselves to heal. Failure is part of life and it is nothing to be ashamed of. It is likely everyone in this life will fail on something at some point in their life but how they move on is important. Focus on yourselves and let the people breathe. The last time I checked, children don't migrate, it is full fledged adults that migrate and they are not forced to japa. So if they pack snow and suffer, let them be, it doesn't affect your "wealth".
Abeg make una chill for 2025. Happy new year in advance to you all.

79733139:
Most of the anti-japa'ites on Nairaland are in Group 2, they are always looking for every excuse to discourage people from immigrating or mock those who have already immigrated.

franvincoop:
The bolded is true.

For your mind now, Omotola na rich person.
Those yeyebrities like Mr. Patrick na rich pple abi?
You can not become rich by earning salary.
Those rich men you know were not rich, the person who was rich was the one paying them that salary.
No rich man wey get factory wey dey manufacture anything for dis Naija go leave am, go wipe nyash or shove snow.

It's easier for a Nigerian to make a million dollars in Nigeria than in the USA.

Japa if you wish, na your choice.

chimex38:
The wealthy who can afford it leave.
It's not cuz of the foreign paparazzi.
It's standard of living.
There will be a stage you reach in wealth, you realise that it can't buy everything..

Equipped and Accessible hospital, Pharmacy without fake drug.

Good road network for your cars wherever you drive.

Professional mechanic with peace of mind.

Good fuel for ur vehicle without knocking your engine.

24/7 light without noise pollution of generator wherever you go not just in your house (Solar isn't usually 24/7 guaranteed)

Clean and available water that is regularly checked and maintained wherever you go.
(How many wealthy people constantly clean their tank or change the filter in Nigeria.)

Fast and strong Network for video calls and high end connectivity.?

Security of neighborhood and efficient emergency services like 911?
No unnecessarily bodyguards who sometimes invade your privacy, due to the nature of their work and they could be a security risk themselves.

Even clean air for breathing, due to clean environment and non-clogged gutters and clean surrounding environment isn't guaranteed in Nigeria.

How many of the above can a wealthy man constantly provide for himself & family and also maintain throughout his life time.. He also has relations he interacts with and friends and he will also not be 24/7 staying indoors in his all-having house every day throughout the year. He will visit friends, village, probably choose to live in other cities or areas; does he carry the house wherever he goes or he simply replicates all expenses again in his new place? Even if he could How sustainable?
Even if sustainable?
How many can or are doing it in Nigeria?
Even if there are substantial people satisfying the above, is it a life worth the struggle?
Is it worth living?

79733139:
Another one... awon anti-japa'ites.