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by RedHoudini(op): 11:38am On Dec 17, 2024*

So I am a freelance developer on here and I make posts about online web design or graphic classes I'm tutoring from time to time and then website designs I have available for sale (mostly to stay known on this space as a developer and so I can grow my views and also get possible dev clients)

But recently I have had to deal with unreal and somewhat abusive individuals who come into my dms from here making requests for websites only to end up being abusive (after making unreal demands) ~ A PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE FOR ₦30,000?

Are any other developers here facing these problems too because honestly its unreal 😂

This guy texted me from one of my flyer ads and its all still very funny to me right now

Please be respectful when dealing with freelance developers online. Making comments about things you do not know is NOT A FLEX it is not a pricing mechanism at all!

Re: by brandec(m): 11:49am On Dec 17, 2024

Nigerians for you

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Re: by RedHoudini(op): 12:17pm On Dec 17, 2024

brandec:
Nigerians for you

its just wild for real

Re: by beyep: 7:39pm On Dec 17, 2024

Just give am . Com. Ng na cheap one e dey find

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 10:03pm On Dec 17, 2024*

beyep:
Just give am . Com. Ng na cheap one e dey find

it's an ecommerce website he wanted me to build.
A .com.ng domain alone (with one year hosting) costs almost 30k

Then wouldn't you charge for extra things and for making the site?

Re: by beyep: 10:50pm On Dec 17, 2024

RedHoudini:
it's an ecommerce website he wanted me to build.
A .com.ng domain alone costs almost 30k

Then wouldn't you charge for extra things and for making the site?

Bros .com.ng is 3k haba

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 10:53pm On Dec 18, 2024

beyep:
Bros .com.ng is 3k haba

I'm quoting a price that includes hosting for up to a year or will you purchase a domain and just stare at it?

and the point for this post is on how its outrageous to tell anyone you want them to build an ecommerce site for 30,000 naira

Re: by bigKlaus: 7:10am On Dec 19, 2024

RedHoudini:
it's an ecommerce website he wanted me to build.
A .com.ng domain alone costs almost 30k

Then wouldn't you charge for extra things and for making the site?

.com.ng is not up to 3,500 what are u saying man

Re: by bigKlaus: 7:11am On Dec 19, 2024

Besides, he stated he doesn’t want to spend much and you are busy suggesting him a .online domain
No be u suppose suggest any domain fir am, even if na free domain e want e no concern u.
Ur own na to build and leave

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 9:51am On Dec 19, 2024

bigKlaus:
Besides, he stated he doesn’t want to spend much and you are busy suggesting him a .online domain
No be u suppose suggest any domain fir am, even if na free domain e want e no concern u.
Ur own na to build and leave

😂 you're a developer and you'll be able to build a professional ecommerce website for 30k with a custom domain and hosting for up to a year for only 30,000?AN ECOMMERCE WEBSITE!
Do not just comment for the fun of it read through what I wrote

This guy wanted an ecommerce website, sent me a sample of what he wants and after we discussed how it'll be made he said he'll pay 30,000 naira for a professional ecommerce website he plans to get international buyers for products he'll sell

Re: by MrNovo: 1:12pm On Dec 21, 2024

You are the one who started being rude or giving negative attitude to your prospective buyer. And you are coming on nairaland to complain of harassment.
He offered you N30k exclusive of domain and hosting and asked for your price for same. You kept running around without giving him a straight response only to tell him to "tell his other guys..."
How much is your web design ONLY....
Stop hiding under domain and hosting to charge bogus, some clients are more informed than you.
Being transparent will save you from what you call harassment

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Re: by Emeka71(m): 1:26pm On Dec 21, 2024

brandec:
Nigerians for you

Yes indeed.

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Re: by bigKlaus: 8:35am On Dec 22, 2024

MrNovo:
You are the one who started being rude or giving negative attitude to your prospective buyer. And you are coming on nairaland to complain of harassment.
He offered you N30k exclusive of domain and hosting and asked for your price for same. You kept running around without giving him a straight response only to tell him to "tell his other guys..."
How much is your web design ONLY....
Stop hiding under domain and hosting to charge bogus, some clients are more informed than you.
Being transparent will save you from what you call harassment

Exactly what I thought, it’s the workmanship that’s the price because obviously he has a modified script for the job already, plus he isn’t buyin domain nor host, it’s the customer doin that. So what exactly is his point . He is talking about .online domain after client has said he doesn’t want to spend much , Shey na u wan tell client which domain he go use ni

Re: by Winnerrrr(m): 2:37pm On Dec 22, 2024

this is supposed to be posted in Webmasters Forums.

Re: by press9jatv(m): 3:17pm On Dec 22, 2024

MrNovo:
You are the one who started being rude or giving negative attitude to your prospective buyer. And you are coming on nairaland to complain of harassment.
He offered you N30k exclusive of domain and hosting and asked for your price for same. You kept running around without giving him a straight response only to tell him to "tell his other guys..."
How much is your web design ONLY....
Stop hiding under domain and hosting to charge bogus, some clients are more informed than you.
Being transparent will save you from what you call harassment

you are very right here

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 11:46pm On Dec 23, 2024

MrNovo:
You are the one who started being rude or giving negative attitude to your prospective buyer. And you are coming on nairaland to complain of harassment.
He offered you N30k exclusive of domain and hosting and asked for your price for same. You kept running around without giving him a straight response only to tell him to "tell his other guys..."
How much is your web design ONLY....
Stop hiding under domain and hosting to charge bogus, some clients are more informed than you.
Being transparent will save you from what you call harassment

No no
Read the messages again and keep in mind that these are just a few screenshots of our conversation. 30,000 was what he offered for the full site with everything included (domain + hosting + design charges)
HE OFFERED ME 30K FOR THE WHOLE THING
And I started explaining how it works and that I'll be paying for a domain and hosting plan to make his website visible to internet users and he said it was a lie and he has guys that already told him how he can do it for less than that 30k. Mind you, I was taking my time to do the explanations for how the site would work, talking about adding chat support systems and a ton of other things you are not able to see in the screenshots I posted. Do not choose to go for the fact I straight up asked him to contact "his guys" for the website
If you had to explain over and over to a prospective client how web design works and he keeps telling you you're lying wouldn't your response be to let him go get it done elsewhere?

Re: by MrNovo: 7:35am On Dec 24, 2024*

RedHoudini:
No no
Read the messages again and keep in mind that these are just a few screenshots of our conversation. 30,000 was what he offered for the full site with everything included (domain + hosting + design charges)
HE OFFERED ME 30K FOR THE WHOLE THING
And I started explaining how it works and that I'll be paying for a domain and hosting plan to make his website visible to internet users and he said it was a lie and he has guys that already told him how he can do it for less than that 30k. Mind you, I was taking my time to do the explanations for how the site would work, talking about adding chat support systems and a ton of other things you are not able to see in the screenshots I posted. Do not choose to go for the fact I straight up asked him to contact "his guys" for the website
If you had to explain over and over to a prospective client how web design works and he keeps telling you you're lying wouldn't your response be to let him go get it done elsewhere?

The bolded is not true based on the screenshots you have shared. The N30k is for Web design Only. Which is okay based on what your colleagues on Nairaland have popularised (get perfect working website for just N20k). I don't know why you are avoiding the fact that he told you he can handle domain and hosting. And that was the point your negotiations went off rail as you refused to give him your quote for ONLY web design and then got angry at him grin

So why are you sharing only some screenshots and leaving out others which are "relevant" since you decided to share on Nairaland.
It seems like you like trying to sound so technical hoping it will help you get paid. It actually does the opposite. What is chatbot got to do with a website you acknowledge in the screenshot as a "simple webpage" ? The screenshot you have posted is sufficient for anyone to make inference on this issue even though it would have been appropriate to also hear from the other party (your client) but just reading your response again to him, I am in no doubt as to what is at stack here. Oga there is nothing special about web design in 2024. I have been doing it since 2017. Especially the way your nairaland N20k colleagues go about it "Upload script edit lorem ipsum"

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Re: by bigKlaus: 7:51am On Dec 24, 2024

MrNovo:
The bolded is not true based on the screenshots you have shared. The N30k is for Web design Only. Which is okay based on what your colleagues on Nairaland have popularised (get perfect working website for just N20k). I don't know why you are avoiding the fact that he told you he can handle domain and hosting. And that was the point your negotiations went off rail as you refused to give him your quote for ONLY web design and then got angry at him
So why are you sharing only some screenshots and leaving out others which are "relevant" since you decided to share on Nairaland.

Someone had to say my mind. If you wanted to be open you shoulda shared all screenshots , the one u shared clearly shows him sayin he can handle domain and hosting by himself..
you went ahead to tell him you want to buy .online for him like say na small pikin u dey follow talk.

Jumia that uses .com they are stupid abi?
That u are tellin him ur recommendation is .online
As per u be Konga CEO.

All I see here is, things didn’t go your way and u got pissed off. Besides what’s so hard in an Ecom website?

Oya lie that u don’t have a script down already for the job. Or u want to tell us that u are writing all the codes yourself from frontend to backend.

Re: by bigKlaus: 7:56am On Dec 24, 2024

From my experience, the only reason a website is expensive to build is
- the host
- the domain
- if you’re actually coding it from scratch and not a script that you are rewriting, and rarely will you see anyone doing this this days. People pick up a script and begin to rewrite and recode it to their taste which I am very sure it’s what u would have also done (I might be wrong)
- your workmanship
- maybe SEO, depending on what the client wants and even at that SEO is not expensive to run, except you buying backlinks.

Or is there any other thing you want to charge a client for again?
He already said he’d handle host and domain, meaning you’re left with workmanship and script.

30k for workmanship might be too small which is understandable but coming here to paint your client bad is just not it.

Re: by MrNovo: 9:02am On Dec 24, 2024

bigKlaus:
Someone had to say my mind. If you wanted to be open you shoulda shared all screenshots , the one u shared clearly shows him sayin he can handle domain and hosting by himself..
you went ahead to tell him you want to buy .online for him like say na small pikin u dey follow talk.

Jumia that uses .com they are stupid abi?
That u are tellin him ur recommendation is .online
As per u be Konga CEO.

All I see here is, things didn’t go your way and u got pissed off. Besides what’s so hard in an Ecom website?

Oya lie that u don’t have a script down already for the job. Or u want to tell us that u are writing all the codes yourself from frontend to backend.

Why you dey avoid to quote the poster angry

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 9:39am On Dec 24, 2024

MrNovo:
The bolded is not true based on the screenshots you have shared. The N30k is for Web design Only. Which is okay based on what your colleagues on Nairaland have popularised (get perfect working website for just N20k). I don't know why you are avoiding the fact that he told you he can handle domain and hosting. And that was the point your negotiations went off rail as you refused to give him your quote for ONLY web design and then got angry at him
So why are you sharing only some screenshots and leaving out others which are "relevant" since you decided to share on Nairaland.
It seems like you like trying to sound so technical hoping it will help you get paid. It actually does the opposite. What is chatbot got to do with a website you acknowledge in the screenshot as a "simple webpage" ? The screenshot you have posted is sufficient for anyone to make inference on this issue even though it would have been appropriate to also hear from the other party (your client) but just reading your response again to him, I am in no doubt as to what is at stack here. Oga there is nothing special about web design in 2024. I have been doing it since 2017. Especially the way your nairaland N20k colleagues go about it "Upload script edit lorem ipsum"

My client did not say he would handle domain and hosting
Reading the messages again I kind of see why you have this belief. And I almost even questioned that you might have been right about it too and that he was offering 30,000 as payment for the site and that he was willing to handle the payment for a domain separately. But you can see that wasn't the case. Because right after I said a domain and hosting would cost that 30,000 (if you're using g054 to get one of their cheap domains), The conversation switched to being an argument of some sort. And if you read my message you'll see my quote! I said I'd be charging 100k for the website. My quote is clearly stated in the screenshot

I do not try to sound the technical with hopes on anything.
Yes from my screenshots you see that I categorize the site as a simple webpage. Why? Because the client didn't want a major online store that would include a section for vendors to add details or anything like that. He wanted me to build a replica of a site and planned to sell the exact same products~ A design I consider simple to do even with the fact he needed a support system built too. Yo you were not the one having the conversation with the client so choosing to pick off at random things is just off to read.

You cannot say the web designer who was asked to build an ecommerce site for this amount and complains about it is at fault. No sirr no way.

And yes I'd agree with the fact that web design isn't all that anymore. You've been building sites since 2017, I've been building sites for longer than that. And I'm familiar with the concept of just working on scripts for clients. I legit have an ad here where I posted about having customizable scripts available for sale. Basically, the client decides what option they want because you'd very naturally charge a client higher for a site that take you days to weeks to build compared to one that just takes hours from using a script.

Re: by RedHoudini(op): 9:42am On Dec 24, 2024

bigKlaus:
From my experience, the only reason a website is expensive to build is
- the host
- the domain
- if you’re actually coding it from scratch and not a script that you are rewriting, and rarely will you see anyone doing this this days. People pick up a script and begin to rewrite and recode it to their taste which I am very sure it’s what u would have also done (I might be wrong)
- your workmanship
- maybe SEO, depending on what the client wants and even at that SEO is not expensive to run, except you buying backlinks.

Or is there any other thing you want to charge a client for again?
He already said he’d handle host and domain, meaning you’re left with workmanship and script.

30k for workmanship might be too small which is understandable but coming here to paint your client bad is just not it.

You're right these are things that determine how much a developer should charge. 30k was the price he offered for the whole thing as he believed that a domain and hosting would cost barely anything. The problem with these new comments is the fact you think I was being offered 30k as charge for building the website and decided to come on here to complain about that.

Read the message I added to the screenshot. The very first thing I wrote.

And the idea wasn't to paint anyone bad. I simply made a post asking if other developers were facing the same issue with these low offers because this was not my first time getting an offer like this for a full website.
And this post was so designed to sort of tilt viewers and possible new clients away from the belief that websites can be made for as low as 30,000

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Re: by RedHoudini(op): 9:53am On Dec 24, 2024

bigKlaus:
Someone had to say my mind. If you wanted to be open you shoulda shared all screenshots , the one u shared clearly shows him sayin he can handle domain and hosting by himself..
you went ahead to tell him you want to buy .online for him like say na small pikin u dey follow talk.

Jumia that uses .com they are stupid abi?
That u are tellin him ur recommendation is .online
As per u be Konga CEO.

All I see here is, things didn’t go your way and u got pissed off. Besides what’s so hard in an Ecom website?

Oya lie that u don’t have a script down already for the job. Or u want to tell us that u are writing all the codes yourself from frontend to backend.

The screenshots are meant to do only one thing; show how I'm complaining about how people price web design and not to show my full conversation with this person.

For this: "you went ahead to tell him you want to buy .online for him like say na small pikin u dey follow talk.''
If you look at the messages, you'll see that he was asking for a cheap domain. If you knew about domains and hosting you would know that .online is a cheap one compared to a .com domain and that is why I offered him that

What's the interest with throwing shades on this post

Re: by bigKlaus: 3:37pm On Dec 24, 2024

MrNovo:
Why you dey avoid to quote the poster

If you’re not slow, you’d realize it doesn’t matter who I quote.

Re: by bigKlaus: 3:40pm On Dec 24, 2024

RedHoudini:
The screenshots are meant to do only one thing; show how I'm complaining about how people price web design and not to show my full conversation with this person.

For this: "you went ahead to tell him you want to buy .online for him like say na small pikin u dey follow talk.''
If you look at the messages, you'll see that he was asking for a cheap domain. If you knew about domains and hosting you would know that .online is a cheap one compared to a .com domain and that is why I offered him that

What's the interest with throwing shades on this post

I’m not throwin shade, it’s just clear misunderstanding and now you’ve explained well

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Re: by RedHoudini(op): 5:31pm On Dec 24, 2024

bigKlaus:
I’m not throwin shade, it’s just clear misunderstanding and now you’ve explained well

Ok ok

Re: by Emeka71(m): 2:25pm On Dec 28, 2024

Emeka71:
Yes indeed.

To continue.

Re: by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 28, 2024

"... for the design I will offer you 30k" That 30k was just for the workmanship, can't you read? And you were responding with a laughing emoji to a prospective client. Such a rude and unprofessional behaviour.

RedHoudini:
So I am a freelance developer on here and I make posts about online web design or graphic classes I'm tutoring from time to time and then website designs I have available for sale (mostly to stay known on this space as a developer and so I can grow my views and also get possible dev clients)

But recently I have had to deal with unreal and somewhat abusive individuals who come into my dms from here making requests for websites only to end up being abusive (after making unreal demands) ~ A PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE FOR ₦30,000?

Are any other developers here facing these problems too because honestly its unreal 😂

This guy texted me from one of my flyer ads and its all still very funny to me right now

Please be respectful when dealing with freelance developers online. Making comments about things you do not know is NOT A FLEX it is not a pricing mechanism at all!

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