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Elzazzi:
But what if konji hold person

Study the scriptures and pray.

Ironfaceman:
The word sexual immorality is a misnomer for acts other than consentual intimacy between a male and female.

Now why should sex be the yardstick for unholiness, affliction and retrogression. While the celibate is a standard for godliness and success. Now all this belief exist in the mind. The things that redeem, bless and heal remains a mistery.

Normal intercourse between male and female don't bring unholiness.



You still don't get if fornication makes you unholy and celibacy make you holy. Then the tragedies that happen to the Holy ones is it because of sin and the breakthrough that happens to the unholy is it because of grace.

Ironfaceman! I lay down for you here. How many people can understand this phenomenon?
I like your reasoning joor.

omoredia:
An these anti-christ threads are sponsored by Islamist seun. Beware

I tell you.

And if it comes to Islamic topic, seun would have censored it. Hypocrite!

When it comes to Christianity topic, every Musa, Adamu and abdullahi would have something say. No matter how bad Christianty becomes, it's still better than all other religions in Nigeria. And I will never join the bandwagon to condemn it.

The no.2 religion that's mostly practiced in one region in Nigeria is the worst. They practiced paganism, rape, unnecessary divorce, juju and extremism. Nonsense

MiddleDimension:
One way you can solve a type of immorality in the church is to know the truth and stop preaching the lie that polygamy is not christian.

Of all imoralities in the church, there is one that should not be, that is the tupe that involves some christian single women sleeping with married men so they can have their children since there aren't many men out there fit for marriage.

The TRUTH is: The christian God is the founder and institutor of polygyny, this is an undeniable fact taught by the BIBLE ITSELF!

To teach otherwise is at best, not to know christianity, and at worst, to be telling blatant lie and leading christians in the way of damination!

Jesus said if you cause any of these little ones to lose their faith, it is better that a mile stone be tied to your neck and you be thrown into the bottom of the sea.

That is the punishment that awaits those who teach the lie polygamy is not christian.

Polygamy doesn't stop immorality.

Elzazzi:
But what if konji hold person

If you're being controlled by the spirit of God and you're under the umbrella of holy ghost konji will never hold you.

Desusi:
If you're being controlled by the spirit of God and you're under the umbrella of holy ghost konji will never hold you.

But God created the body so. Abi konji no dey hold married Christians couples ? ( in this case they are married. Which is God's plan I understand).

Olatara:
Polygamy doesn't stop immorality.

I said a type of imorality!

You should comprehend better.

[quote author=Desusi post=133405290][/quote]do sonething to this poat of yours I can understand it. It is clearly not out very well.

MiddleDimension:
do sonething to this poat of yours I can understand it. It is clearly not out very well.

Yes,l see.l have done it before l realised it.lam sorry

Desusi:
Yes,l see.l have done it before l realised it.lam sorry

If I got you clearly, you were saying my post is a new doctrine from the pit of hell and that Jesus himself said one man one wife?

MiddleDimension:
If I got you clearly, you were saying my post is a new doctrine from the pit of hell and that Jesus himself said one man one wife?

Exactly.

The reason why Islam is a scare to the most mankind. No room for immortality, indecent dress, alcoholism, prostitution…. All negative vice name them.

If one tries them, it’s in secret with a huge guilty conscience and reason for swift repentance…

The reason why Islam is a scare to the most of mankind. No room for immorality , indecent dressing , alcoholism, prostitution…. All negative vice name them.

If one tries them, it’s in secret with a huge guilty conscience and reason for swift repentance…

Desusi:
Exactly.

So, are you ready to consider my answer, which I am most certain trumps anything you have ever known about the subject?

Olatara:
Polygamy doesn't stop immorality.

Have you read it properly to see my point?

MiddleDimension:
So, are you ready to consider my answer, which I am most certain trumos anything you have ever known about the subject?

Far from being considered. The Bible did not accept polygamy style of marriage rather monogamy.Their creator made them so from the beginning. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

MiddleDimension:
Have you read it properly to see my point?

Nope! I will try

Desusi:
Far from being considered. The Bible did not accept polygamy style of marriage rather monogamy.Their creator made them so from the beginning. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

I don't understand you.

You claim I am bringing in a new doctrine and that polygamy is not from God. You even went ahead to reference the ''he made them male and female'' nonsense. Then I said, are you ready to hear and consider my response to that claim of yours? You then replied and said ''far from being considered'' and still went ahead to repeat what you have said earlier.

If you are not willing to listen to alternative proposition and accept it for its strength or reject it for its faults, how then do you increase in knowledge and build wisdom?

Olatara:
Nope! I will try

Now that you have gone back to read it properly, what do you think?

MiddleDimension:
I don't understand you.

You claim I am bringing in a new doctrine and that polygamy is not from God. You even went ahead to reference the ''he made them male and female'' nonsense. Then I said, are you ready to hear and consider my response to that claim of yours? You then replied and said ''far from being considered'' and still went ahead to repeat what you have said earlier.

If you are not willing to listen to alternative proposition and accept it for its strength or reject it for its faults, how then do you increase in knowledge and build wisdom?

Iam a pastor and ordained minister for that matter. To me and by extension all ministers of the word, the bible is regarded as the last authority in,any matter. If you're not drawing your inferences from the scripture, never mine,if otherwise, go ahead.

Desusi:
Iam a pastor and ordained minister for that matter. To me and by extension all ministers of the word, the bible is regarded as the last authority in,any matter. If you're not drawing your inferences from the scripture, never mine,if otherwise, go ahead.

I will go back to your original post where you referenced Genesis and Matthew that God made them male and female and the two shall become one.

People like you understand that passage to be what it is not: that it is indicating that God is stating his so-called prefered choice of type of marriage.

The truth is: that is not the case and to see it so, does nothing but show dishonesty or outright fraud on the part of those who see it this way.

That passage especially in matthew has got nothing to do with monogamy or polygamy for that matter; it is talking about DIVORCE!

Lets take a look at it again, since you prefer the bible as the ONLY AUTHORITY.

The topic of discussion was CLEARLY SPELT OUT in verse 3

it says:

''3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?'' Matt 19 vs 3.

It was to that question he responded and said:

''Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.'' Matt 19 vs 4-6

The last bolded part makes it clear one more time that he was addressing the issue of divorce and it is important you don't read your imagination or assumption into scripture because in that case, you won't be reading the word of god anymore, but your word!

But me address more precisely why you and many within christianity have this false idea that that passage forbids polygamy. It is because it says ''male'' and ''female'' which is singular, and the TWO shall become ONE.

Well, of course it is male and female he made, not male, female and a third gender like we see from the LGBTQ today. And certainly, ''the two shall become one'' is not violated in polygamy as the relationship between a man each of his wives in bible terms and in divine revelation, are purely a one on one basis. I HAVE SHOWN FROM THE SCRIPTURES SEVERAL TIMES HERE ON NAIRALAND, HOW THAT IS TRUE.

Maybe the likes of @SirTee15, @StillDTruth, @Dtruthspeaker and @MaxInDHouse can tell you what I explained to them, which they are still having difficulties accepting despite the fact, if floors all their life-long miseducation.

Desusi:
Iam a pastor and ordained minister for that matter. To me and by extension all ministers of the word, the bible is regarded as the last authority in,any matter. If you're not drawing your inferences from the scripture, never mine,if otherwise, go ahead.

I have to copy and paste my ealier post responding to this same understandong of yours of the matt 19 passage, which sadly and strangely, is prevalent in christianity and among the priest and pastorhood.

well, this is it:

Very good, this is the verse those who peddle the lie that christianity forbids polygamy bring up. But I can tell you your understanding is COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE AND YOUR GOD IS NOT HAPPY WITH IT!

First of all, in that verse there, he was not talking about polygamy or how many wives a man can or cannot marry. How you saw prohibition of polygamy there, is beyond me! Divorce was the tooic of discussion!

Secondly, who told you by that verse, Jesus was saying only one man and one woman were made at the beginning? To say so, is to call Jesus a ignorant!

Lets find out to your astonishment and amazement that it was not just Adam and Eve God made at the beginning hence your understanding that Jesus was refering to just two people there is wrong

In Genesis 4 when God cursed Cain, Cain cried out: ''Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. Gen 4 vs 14.

So, the question is: who were the ''anyone'' Cain was refering to if all God made at the beginning was just Adam and Eve? If he made only Adam and Eve, and they both had Cain and Abel, then they should only be four people in the whole of earth and the ''anyone'' Cain spoke of should not even come up at all.

But that's not even the most astonishing part. God, who knows it all, confirmed that Cain's fears are real when he said: ''And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.'' Gen 4 vs 15.

Remember that God knows it all. So, if Cains fears were unfounded, he would have told him no one is out there, since I only made two people who gave birth to only two of you and now that you have killed your brother, only three of you are left. But no, he did not say that, he told Cain, anyone who kills you, will recieve several times your punishment!

Of course, God said it in Chapter 5 that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. But thats not before Cain was cursed! And it is absurd to think that the people Cain was refering to were his brothers and sisters! Remember the curse was that he was going to wander about in the wilderness before coming in contact with those who might kill him! His close kins are not the ones he would run into if he roamed about far away from his parent and his familiar terrain!

Also, in vs 17 of chapter 4, it is recorded that Cain went into exile, got married, founded a CITY! Just one or two people won't make up a city, can they?

So, in the light of the above, it is absolutely wrong to interprete matt 19:4 to mean that Jesus was saying that the ''two'' God made in Genesis is just one man and one woman, Adam and Eve. To say this is to contradict the bible which says: ''Through him God made all things; not one thing in all creation was made without him.'' Gospel of John 1 vs 3. In colosians 1 vs 16, it says: ''For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him.''

In the light of the two scriptures above, we can see clearly that Jesus having, along side the father and the holyspirit, created Adam and Eve himself #LetUsMakeManInOurOwnImageAndLikeness, knew very well that they were not the only ones he made at the beginning. As a result of that, in matt 19vs 4, he was not by telling you ''he made them male and female'', was refering to just numerical 2 people.

The best interpretation of that passage matt 19vs4, is that he was saying he madr two genders: male and female.

Another point:
Even if he was refering to just numerical 2 people only, that verse still does not prohibit polygamy. I hear you ask how that can be. Well, let me show you...

The reason for that is: the marriage between a man and all his wives is a one on one basis, not a mega union!

The bible likens the marriage between a man and a woman, to the relationship between God and Israel, Jesus and his church, or Jesus and the individual christian. For the sake of time, I am not going to go into fully explaining this as I think the average christian already knows and understand this. But if you would like me to explain further, please let me know and I will help out.

Now, you know that in such a union, the man is the figure of God while the woman is the figure of the church or the individual christian. Every single time the bible says this, this is always the case! If you can find another instance where the woman is the figure of God, and the man the figure of the church, please let me know. And if anyone knows very well christianity, he would see the insinuation that the woman is the figure of God and the man the figure of the individual christian as a blasphemy!

So, just as Jesus is your 'husband' and you, a jokerman, and he is simultaneously, the husdand of Adeboye, Oyedepo, et al because the relationship is a one on one basis, so too can a man have more than one wife and the idea of two became one is still upheld. Remember that this is the workings of a christian marriage. I did not make it, neither can you undo it.

To show to you that each christian is the bride if christ, lets turn to 1 Corinthians: ''15 You know that your bodies are parts of the body of Christ. Shall I take a part of Christ's body and make it part of the body of a prostitute? Impossible! 16 Or perhaps you don't know that the man who joins his body to a prostitute becomes physically one with her? The scripture says quite plainly, “The two will become one body.” 17 But he who joins himself to the Lord becomes spiritually one with him.''

the bolded part points out what I am trying to say, very beautifully!

It says: ''HE WHO JOINS HIMSELF TO THE LORD...'' So, the question is: do you did you join yourself, Jokerman, to the lord? Did the Pope, or any other christian who have accepted jesus as his lord and saviour join themselves to the lord? If yes, then he said you ''...have spiritually become one with him''!

I did not say this, you bible did!

And to be more precise about what he is refering to, Paul still referenced the sane Genesis Jesus quoted in matt 19:4. the same passage you brought up here.

Jesus said when two people become married, then ''the two of them have become one!''. So, if you became one with christ at your initiation into his brotherhood, it is because you became married to him, so to speak! The concluding part of that chapter 6 says, he paid your bride price!

So, with this little thing here, I hope you are clear that your understanding of matt 19vs 4 that it prohibits polygamy is completely out of place!

If you have any comment or question, please ask. I am going to tag the usual people with whom I have had this discussion before to come in and look again at the facts and strength of the arguement I have put forward here. Perhaps this time, they can overcome their Dunning-Kruger effect and drop their antagonism to polygamy as being of God, or if they still insist on their original stance, they will be able to come up with a better arguement than they currently put forward.

Desusi:
Iam a pastor and ordained minister for that matter. To me and by extension all ministers of the word, the bible is regarded as the last authority in,any matter. If you're not drawing your inferences from the scripture, never mine,if otherwise, go ahead.

another read, if you woukd like.

The first is not the ONE TRUE WIFE! all the wives are equally his wives! There is not evidence in the bible that God gave a 'standard', no such thing in the bible! The whole idea that god has a standard of marriage, is not just nonsense, but the personal opinion of those people who know nothing about the topic.

My dear, ''the two shall become one'' is absolutely present in polygamy! This is because there is a way the christian marriage is which you all do not understand!

the ''the two shall become one'' does not exclude polygamy because for God, the relationship between the man and each of his wives is absolutely personal. He is the husband of each of the wives, whole and entire, not partially!


In christian marriage, the man's marriage to all his wives is on individual bases. Just as your god is married to you, if you are a born again, and is also married to Pope Francis, Oyakhilome, Adeboye, Oyedepo, et al at the same time. In christian marriage, the man is the figure of God, while the woman is the figure of the church, the individual christian etc.

How do I know this?

LET ME SHOW YOU!

I will repeat what I quoted in that post again and let me let the independent seeker of truth be the better judge.
So, once again, What is my BIBLICAL EVIDENCE for saying the marriage between a man and a woman is a MIRROR of the marriage between god and his church?

1. God's instruction to Hosea:
Hosea was instructed by god to go and take a wife and let their relationship be a reflection of the relationship between god and his people Israel. Your bible says: "When the Lord first spoke to Israel through Hosea, he said to Hosea, 'Go and get married; your wife will be unfaithful, and your children will be just like her. In the same way my people have left me and become unfaithful.” Hosea 1 vs 2.

2. The Book of The Song of Solomon
The Book of the Song of Solomon is basically a book with two people: a man and a woman singing love songs to each other. Now even though it contains pornographic contents, It is still found among the canon of scriptures which you call the "word of god". contents like:

"take me away with you—let us hurry!
Let the king bring me into his chambers.

13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breasts." Song of Solomon 1 vs 4 and 13.

"Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle

16 Awake, north wind,
and come, south wind!
Blow on my garden,
that its fragrance may spread everywhere.
Let my beloved come into his garden
and taste its choice fruits." Song of Solomon 4 vs 5 and 16

''Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,
9 and your mouth like the best wine. Song of Solomon 7 vs 7-9 and so on.
The book of the song of Solomon is so pornographic, it is hardly read in church.

So, why is pornography found in the 'word' of a supposedly holy god?

The Jewish Theory
In Qabbalah, Jewish mysticism, the book of the Song of Songs is seen as a dialogue between god and Israel and that the aim of the book is not to pàss a sexual or erotic message. It is often said that the expression of love between the man and the woman is just a mirror of the love god (the man) has with Israel (the woman) (Loprieno, 2005, P107; Sara et al, 2007)

The Christian Theory
In much the same way too, the christian church did the same thing the Jews did with the Song of Solomon but this time instead of seeing the woman as Israel, the church sees itself, or the individual christian as the woman. So, its excuse for letting a pornographic content into the word of a 'holy' god, is that it could be seen as an allegorical representation of god and the church, or god and the individual christian where god is the man and the church or You @vdestro, is the woman (Alfred, 2003). The famous 3rd century christian, Origen, in his "Homilies on the song of song", aired the same idea. Origen, by the way, was heavily influenced by the teachings of Clement of Alexandria, a disciple of Peter, the one whom Jesus told to feed his sheep (Chapman,1908).

3. Ezekiel 16 vs 8-14 Good News Bible.
Here, it can clearly be seen that the relationship between god and Israel is likened to the marriage relationship between a man and a woman. verse 8 of Ezekiel 16 says: "As I passed by again, I saw that the time had come for you to fall in love. I covered your naked body with my coat and promised to love you. Yes, I made a marriage covenant with you, and you became mine.” This is what the Sovereign LORD says.


4. Isaiah 54:5
“For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.''

But what about the new testament? does it also indicate that the marriage between a man and a woman is a mirror of the relationship between god and his church or the individual christian?

Let me show you!

5. 2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.

6. Revelation 19:7-9
Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Then he *said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’” And he *said to me, “These are true words of God.”

7. Revelation 21:2
And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

These verses and the many more I cannot give here due to time, prove beyond reasonable or christian doubt that the marriage between a man and a woman IS A MIRROR OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GOD AND ISRAEL, JESUS AND THE CHURCH, OR GOD/JESUS AND THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL. Whoever disagrees with me should present his position together with EVIDENCE, BIBLICAL OR OTHERWISE, and show that they are superior in revelation to the ones I have given here.


having proved that relationship between god and israel, jesus and the church, and god/jesus and the indivual soul/christian is the same thing as the marriage between a man and his wife, Can we now proceed to proving that just as god is the groom of you @vdestro, he can also be the groom of the dtruthspeaker, Oyakhilome, Adeboye, etc, all at the same time, a man can also be the groom of more than one wife at the same time.

First of all, in all of the places where the relationship between god and man is compared to the marriage between a man and a woman, god is the one who is ALWAYS PRESENTED AS THE MAN, while the individual or the church is the one that is always presented as the woman. I am not the one making this up, it is your bible and any other relevant source that is saying it. Therefore, do not direct your arguments at me, do it with your bible.

Paul was talking to the individual christians that make up the church in Corinth here when he said in 2 Corinthians 11:2 that "For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin.

The "you" Paul mentioned there, is refering to the individuals in the church of corinth. Do you, @vdestro, disagree with this too? Because god knows that this also means that a man can have more than one wife and that has not broken anything holy and divine in his sight, is why HE HIMSELF GAVE DAVID MORE THAN ONE WIFE. Or you would like to deny god himself gave david his wives? Here is the biblical prove:

Nathan said to David. “And this is what the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I made you king of Israel and rescued you from Saul. 8 I gave you his kingdom and his wives

This has sufficiently answered your question. If you have an objection, you can present it and show that your proposition is superior in revelation to the ones I have given herein.

By the way, please do not fail to respond to those propositions of yours I pointed out.

I have given you the courtesy of responding to your demand of showing you how the bible disagrees with you; you should now give me the same courtesy I have given you, by giving evidence for your propositions 1 and 2. the evidence can come from sacred scriptures or sacred traditions, if you are a catholic, which I do not think you are seeing you used the expression "the law of..."

@Absolutesuccess. Please pardon me a little bit. I just lifted this response from different thread where they argued with me, like you are presenting now, that Jesus' statement that ''the two shall become one'', excludes polygamy. I found it necessary to lift it and paste it here to save my time and energy. Tjat is why you can see me mention some handles here.

References:
1. Chapman, Henry Palmer (1908). "Pope St. Clement I" . In Herbermann, Charles (ed.). Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 4. New York: Robert Appleton Company.

2. Loprieno, Antonio (2005). "Searching for a common background: Egyptian love poetry and the Biblical Song of Songs". In Hagedorn, Anselm C. (ed.). Perspectives on the Song of Songs. Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 978-3-11-017632-2

3. Japhet, Sara (2007). "Rashi's Commentary on the Song of Songs: The Revolution of Prashat and Its Aftermath" (PDF). Rasi: The Man and His Work: 199.

4. Norris, Richard Alfred (2003). The Song of Songs: Interpreted by Early Christian and Medieval Commentators. Eerdmans. ISBN 978-0-8028-2579-7.

Desusi:
Far from being considered. The Bible did not accept polygamy style of marriage rather monogamy.Their creator made them so from the beginning. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

What most people don't understand about the Bible is how God used it to appeal to our heart it has been given to mankind as the most precious gift of all time so instead of using it to justify wickedness we are to use it for teaching, for reproving, for setting matters straight and disciplining in righteousness {2Timothy 3:16} the Bible will never say polygamy is evil because God promised that in the New Covenant He will write his laws in our hearts {Jeremiah 31:33} this will help us to use our own discernment to know if we are fitting for paradise or not! Malachi 3:18

So if you allow God's word to teach, reproved, set matters straight and disciplining you in the way of righteousness its as if you are reasoning with God {Isaiah 1:18} then you will know (without anyone telling you) that polygamy and this will be fully competent and completely equipped as a servant of God! 2Timothy 3:17

In the beginning God gave Adam one wife and it's after the fall of man that many started having multiple partners and there is no single servant of God who practiced polygamy without trouble in their marriage they have to welcome the troubles that come with polygamy. Romans 15:4

The Old Covenant led faithful Israelites to Christ {Deuteronomy 18:18} it is not for their salvation but the New Covenant is established to lead believers to salvation {John 3:16} how do i mean?
When talking about polygamy Jesus response to those asking him is like telling them to go back to the standard God set in the beginning {Matthew 19:4} but why directing his audience to Genesis? Well whoever wants to live forever must accept the standard God set back then regarding one man one woman.
God promised that there will be no pain or tears in Paradise adding all these things has passed away {Revelations 21:3-4} we need to ask ourselves "how possible is it for two women to live as wives of one man by the time we want to enjoy life to the full as youths in God's Kingdom without these women becoming rivals?" Leviticus 18:18
Some may argue that God only said we must not marry two sisters from the same family but is that not what Jacob did?
So if God later condemned it was Jacob right to have done what is now considered to be wrong?
Well in Christianity we are all brothers and sisters in Christ so whoever thinks of marrying more than one wife will surely turn two sisters to rivals and it's certain such a person is not fitting for Paradise!

MiddleDimension:
..Maybe the likes of @SirTee15, @StillDTruth, @Dtruthspeaker and @MaxInDHouse can tell you what I explained to them, which they are still having difficulties accepting despite the fact, if floors all their life-long miseducation.

Says the one twisting the bible to accept adultery even when you see "the two shall become one'' and not "the one" shall become two, to become one, again" as your sinfilled pervertfull mind has conjectured.

In your foolish mind, you think you can raise this argumentt with God to cover in defence of your sins of lusts and adulteries? Fool, you are not the first to imagine a vain thing. Solomon did it and he failed!

Desusi:
Iam a pastor and ordained minister for that matter. To me and by extension all ministers of the word, the bible is regarded as the last authority in,any matter. If you're not drawing your inferences from the scripture, never mine,if otherwise, go ahead.

have you read my response yet?

MiddleDimension:
have you read my response yet?

Hmmm,you owes me some expiations. Indeed,you're very vast and intelligent but we cannot by searching find God.Come with a simple heart of believing. The inferences drawn by you ate cleared. But,its still not inconsistent with Bible doctrine of one man,one wife.

Desusi:
Hmmm,you owes me some expiations.

What specifically do you want me to explain to you?

Indeed,you're very vast and intelligent but we cannot by searching find God.

bible said he is the rewarder of those who diligently search for him (Hebrews 11 vs 2);He who seeks me shall find me (Jeremiah 29:13).

Come with a simple heart of believing.

a simple heart involves removing your preconceptiins and preconvictions and allow the facts lead you to the truth. This is what you do not find with many people.

The inferences drawn by you ate cleared. But,its still not inconsistent with Bible doctrine of one man,one wife.

But I just pointed it out to you that the one man one wife IS NOT A BIBLE TEACHING. why do you still hold on to that idea?

[quote author=Desusi post=133453269][/quote]??

it looks like you forgot to write something.

[quote author=Desusi post=133453269][/quote]You are trying to say I am speaking human ideology and the word of God?