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freakyamanda:
Ukrainian crimes started first even before any armed conflict started. You deposed an elected president and declared allegiance to the west, that's okay. Now the same right anti russian protesters of the maidan had was the same right that should be accorded pro Russian protesters of the Donbas. What did the US backed Ukrainian do? They sent in troops to harass common civilians
It was when they declared secession that Russia started helping them.

You still haven't brought us proof of how nazi Ukrainians destroyed muripol..

I wanna know how that was possible

Many western media platforms are so good at telling tales that they forget how they contradict themselves. If you notice, it is equally western sources that we mostly use to refute western sources simply because of their inconsistencies. That only happens when someone is trying to lie. Now read the article below:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/21/the-ukrainians-forced-to-flee-to-russia

'Most of the world was aware of Ukrainians fleeing the war for Western Europe, but millions travelled east. Some were forced to go. Others went because they have family in Russia, or see it as a familiar environment. But even these choices were often made because the Russian occupation effectively leaves Ukrainians with no alternative.'

Despite that this is an anti russian article it still end up showing that many Ukrainians went there of their choice.

Most of the Ukrainians going to Russia are Eastern or Donbas residents who are pro russia and are running away from the Ukrainian banderite nazis. It only requires common sense to figure it out.

Again, why are lebanese not running to Israel? Please answer me.

obedience4:
The question I asked where the Ukrainians given the right to choose??

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You are funny, seek safety from who?? Ukrainians are seeking safety from the same Russians who invaded there country.. does that makes sense to you??

So let say Ghana invades Nigeria and takes over kano. And kano residents are forced to move to Ghana, kano residents are seeking safety in Ghana, the same country who invaded their country 🤣🤣😂😂😂

The Ukrainians are tag Refugees because they are in Russia not because they are seeking safety in Russia..safety from who??

https://www.voanews.com/a/voa-exclusive-ukrainians-forcibly-transferred-to-russia-had-no-choice-/6727549.html

This link Is from Amnesty International

https://www.amnesty.org/en/petition/stop-the-forcible-transfer-of-civilians-in-ukraine-to-russia/


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60894142

Russia is forcing thousands of Ukrainians civilian into Russia, and you are telling me they are seeking safety.

freakyamanda:
Many western media platforms are so good at telling tales that they forget how they contradict themselves. If you notice, it is equally western sources that we mostly use to refute western sources simply because of their inconsistencies. That only happens when someone is trying to lie. Now read the article below:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/21/the-ukrainians-forced-to-flee-to-russia

'Most of the world was aware of Ukrainians fleeing the war for Western Europe, but millions travelled east. Some were forced to go. Others went because they have family in Russia, or see it as a familiar environment. But even these choices were often made because the Russian occupation effectively leaves Ukrainians with no alternative.'

Despite that this is an anti russian article it still end up showing that many Ukrainians went there of their choice.

Most of the Ukrainians going to Russia are Eastern or Donbas residents who are pro russia and are running away from the Ukrainian banderite nazis. It only requires common sense to figure it out.

Again, why are lebanese not running to Israel? Please answer me.

Here is from the same article you posted. Why did you omit this part

Many stories of Ukrainians who have gone to Russia involve coercion, confusion, or doublethink. What happened to some of them may be a war crime.
How on earth does the above translate to a refugee or asylum seeker?

obedience4:
Ramzan a Russian general...hmmmm

The importance of the wagner during the early stages of the Ukraine war can't be overlooked. Wanger spear headed the Bakhmut offensive one of the bloodiest battles of the Ukraine war. Wagner were instrumental in the capture of the twin Ukrainian oblast

Wagner spared the blushes of the embarrassment called the Russian military..

No matter how you try to paint it, the Russian military is an embarrassment.

Mtcheww Gerrout🥱🥱
You really don't have anything to say...

Gbadebo19:
Stop replying those Nitwits please...
Just imagine a whole human being bringing links to support the definition of a refugee and asylum seeker but when it reached to prove Ukrainians in Russia, doesn't have any link to support it and expects us to swallow that bullshit.

you are systemically telling your western slave fellow to run for the lady

I really enjoyed her conversation with both of you,I mean as she dey you give wotowoto🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

freakyamanda:
Many western media platforms are so good at telling tales that they forget how they contradict themselves. If you notice, it is equally western sources that we mostly use to refute western sources simply because of their inconsistencies. That only happens when someone is trying to lie. Now read the article below:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/21/the-ukrainians-forced-to-flee-to-russia

'Most of the world was aware of Ukrainians fleeing the war for Western Europe, but millions travelled east. Some were forced to go. Others went because they have family in Russia, or see it as a familiar environment. But even these choices were often made because the Russian occupation effectively leaves Ukrainians with no alternative

Despite that this is an anti russian article it still end up showing that many Ukrainians went there of their choice.

Most of the Ukrainians going to Russia are Eastern or Donbas residents who are pro russia and are running away from the Ukrainian banderite nazis. It only requires common sense to figure it out.

Again, why are lebanese not running to Israel? Please answer me.

Some went on their own accord, does that dispute the fact that Russia is forcing thousands of Ukrainians to Russia, in conclusion the Russian invasion brought the crisis and forced Ukrainians to leave their homes either forcefully move to Russia or going to Russia on thier own accord, the bottom line is Russia is committing crimes against humanity by moving people at of their will to Russia.

Is Israel holding unto Lebanese territory?? The IDF is fighting the terrorist group hazebolla not the Lebanese people. There's no reason for Lebanese to seek refuge in Israel

nigeriansamurai:
Mtcheww Gerrout🥱🥱
You really don't have anything to say...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov

Some people on this thread are totally ignorant on the subject matter, their routine: argument, Drop pro west headlines for google, Hail America. The news hear Dem no dey even pay attention

Vic2023:
you are systemically telling your western slave fellow to run for the lady

I really enjoyed her conversation with both of you,I mean as she dey give wotowoto🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You will type any rubbish just to get noticed.
Only heaven knows what you will do in real life for money.

Did you even read where I mentioned that western reports sometimes contradicts themselves and that this is an example of an anti Russian story? But even in an anti Russian story, they couldn't escape acknowledging that Ukrainians told them they went willingly to Russia. That is all the evidence I need. You continue to avoid answering my own questions.

Did anybody seek refuge in Israel from the countries Israel is fighting? Or does Israel even allow anybody from those countries?

Gbadebo19:
Here is from the same article you posted. Why did you omit this part

Many stories of Ukrainians who have gone to Russia involve coercion, confusion, or doublethink. What happened to some of them may be a war crime.
How on earth does the above translate to a refugee or asylum seeker?

Did you even read where I mentioned that western reports sometimes contradicts themselves and that this is an example of an anti Russian story? But even in an anti Russian story, they couldn't escape acknowledging that Ukrainians told them they went willingly to Russia. That is all the evidence I need. You continue to avoid answering my own questions.

Did anybody seek refuge in Israel from the countries Israel is fighting? Or does Israel even allow anybody from those countries? You can easily see who is more humane between Russia and Israel in these stories.

Gbadebo19:
Here is from the same article you posted. Why did you omit this part

Many stories of Ukrainians who have gone to Russia involve coercion, confusion, or doublethink. What happened to some of them may be a war crime.
How on earth does the above translate to a refugee or asylum seeker?

Is Israel not holding on to Lebanese territory? There is a ceasefire in place. Has Israel withdrawn its troops?
Again, you said here that Israel is not fighting Lebanon and that is the reason why it should not take Lebanese refugees forgetting that earlier you had said that a country fighting another country cannot be in the position to receive refugees from that country.


You contradict yourself so much that you are becoming laughable. I used to respect your intelligence.

obedience4:
Some went on their own accord, does that dispute the fact that Russia is forcing thousands of Ukrainians to Russia, in conclusion the Russian invasion brought the crisis and forced Ukrainians to leave their homes either forcefully move to Russia or going to Russia on thier own accord, the bottom line is Russia is committing crimes against humanity by moving people at of their will to Russia.

Is Israel holding unto Lebanese territory?? The IDF is fighting the terrorist group hazebolla not the Lebanese people. There's no reason for Lebanese to seek refuge in Israel

freakyamanda:
Did you even read where I mentioned that western reports sometimes contradicts themselves and that this is an example of an anti Russian story? But even in an anti Russian story, they couldn't escape acknowledging that Ukrainians told them they went willingly to Russia. That is all the evidence I need. You continue to avoid answering my own questions.

Did anybody seek refuge in Israel from the countries Israel is fighting? Or does Israel even allow anybody from those countries? You can easily see who is more humane between Russia and Israel in these stories.

Young lady, I brought you a screenshot from The UN and amnesty International, this are two independent bodies.
you can't dispute the very fact,that Russia is cupable in the forced deportation of Ukrainians to Russia.

Russia is trying to erase Ukraine heritage, the UN and Amnesty International reported that even in Russia held Ukrainian territory, civilians are given Russia passport, school curriculum are changed.

Stop defending a mass murderer putin

Gbadebo19:
You will type any rubbish just to get noticed.
Only heaven knows what you will do in real life for money.

What do you do for money?🥹🥹🥹
Can your lying broke ass please share with us?

Gbadebo19:
You don't even sound intelligent at all.
First question: "What right do some group of people have to declare secession from a sovereign state?" It's treason of the highest order and the use of the military is justified.
Secondly: "What right does Russia have to move in its military in the aid of the so called seccessionists?"
Assuming Benin Republic is maltreating some Yorubas in Benin Republic, are you telling me Nigeria has a right to move in its armed forces?

Mrs History student, think with your brain, not with your anus. This is a discussion for the exchange of intellects, not tales by moonlight.

yes Nigeria has the right,as the USA has the right to invaded Syria bcs of it's citizens death through ISIS (according to obedient)
Pls just argue with obedient that made the claim!

freakyamanda:
Did you even read where I mentioned that western reports sometimes contradicts themselves and that this is an example of an anti Russian story? But even in an anti Russian story, they couldn't escape acknowledging that Ukrainians told them they went willingly to Russia. That is all the evidence I need. You continue to avoid answering my own questions.

Did anybody seek refuge in Israel from the countries Israel is fighting? Or does Israel even allow anybody from those countries? You can easily see who is more humane between Russia and Israel in these stories.

I doubt you understand anything from the article you posted.
I read it and if you look closely, it shouldn't be hard to come to the conclusion that it wasn't definitive.
Russia allowing Ukrainians into their country is not in any way a sign of humanity. The same Russia that massacred women and children in Bucha and Irpin? If Ukrainians went to Russia wilfully (which of course is not wilful, we all know it was as a result of the invasion) , it's simply because there exists a sense of affinity between them. It's just like you comparing a war between Nigeria and Benin Republic and the Yorubas in Benin Republic came to settle in Lagos, does that mean Nigeria was humane? No. It's simply due to affinity. Your question of Israel allowing Lebanese into their country does not arise at all because the Israelites have always maintained that they do not share any affinity with the bastardized Arabs who are dubiously claiming Jewish ancestry of a million years ago. The affinity doesn't even exist.

Now, you answer my question.

What is the effect of the referendum that granted independence to Ukraine and drew the internationally recognised map of Ukraine?

Vic2023:
yes Nigeria has the right,as the USA has the right to invaded Syria bcs of it's citizens death through ISIS (according to obedient)
Pls just argue with obedient that made the claim!

I have repeatedly said it, international politics and global matters are too gruesome for your kind of brain. When did USA invade Syria? So, an international coalition to defeat terrorism is now an invasion? Mtcheeeew!!!!

freakyamanda:
Is Israel not holding on to Lebanese territory? There is a ceasefire in place. Has Israel withdrawn its troops?
Again, you said here that Israel is not fighting Lebanon and that is the reason why it should not take Lebanese refugees forgetting that earlier you had said that a country fighting another country cannot be in the position to receive refugees from that country.


You contradict yourself so much that you are becoming laughable. I used to respect your intelligence.

A ceasefire is not the end of the war, during the last war with hazebolla, after the end the war when the peace was brokered. The Israelis withdrawn from Lebanon. The isrealis would surely move back when peace deal is brokered.

Don't get me wrong, Israel is not fighting Lebanon as s country but the entity called hazebolla which happens to be stationed in labenon.

You asked a question why are Lebanese not coming to Israel, I answered by saying the Israelis had no business with the civilians in labenon. They don't intend to hold any territory in labenon. Why will Lebanese flee there country to israel when there homes are not threatened??

The reason why Ukrainians are leaving Ukraine is unlike the Jews. Russia plan to annex there territory and take their lands. This are two distinct military campaign.

Also there is no refugees crisis in Lebanon. The IDF simply told the civilians to move out of certain areas. It wish to conduct its operations and since the ceasefire came into effect most civilians are back to there homes.

Any Ukrainian going to Russia either forced or willfully was done as a result of the invasion of Russia period.
Stop sugar coating Russia and its crimes.

nigeriansamurai:
What do you do for money?🥹🥹🥹
Can your lying broke ass please share with us?

On whose behalf are you barking tonight? Shameless dog

Great. Now that you have acknowledged that Russia has affinity for Ukrainians, every other thing you said here is bollocks.

Gbadebo19:
I doubt you understand anything from the article you posted.
I read it and if you look closely, it shouldn't be hard to come to the conclusion that it wasn't definitive.
Russia allowing Ukrainians into their country is not in any way a sign of humanity. The same Russia that massacres women and children in Bucha and Irpin? If Ukrainians went to Russia , it's simpky because there exists a sense of affinity between them. It's just like you comparing a war between Nigeria and Benin Republic and the Yorubas in Benin Republic came to settle in Lagos, does that mean Nigeria was humane? No. It's simply due to affinity. Your question of Israel allowing Lebanese into their country does not arise at all because the Israelites have always maintained that they do not share any affinity with the bastardized Arabs who are dubiously claiming Jewish ancestry of a million years ago. The affinity doesn't even exist.

Now, you answer my question.

What is the effect of the referendum that granted independence to Ukraine and drew the internationally recognised map of Ukraine?

freakyamanda:
Great. Now that you have acknowledged that Russia has affinity for Ukrainians, every other thing you said here is bollocks.

Where did you see me write Russia having affinity for Ukrainians? it's vice versa. It's only happening because Ukraine is the one under attack. If the threat of a large magnitude comes to Russia, they would go to Ukrainians as well.
By the way, This is the second question you are dodging tonight. 😂😂😂 I am ashamed of you.

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Gbadebo19:
On whose behalf are you barking tonight? Shameless dog

🥹 Sha you never answer the question...

I have attached the leading pages of the Amnesty international report on Ukrainian atrocities in the Donbas. This started happening long before the secession, civil war and Russian invasion. So tell me who started it?

obedience4:
Young lady, I brought you a screenshot from The UN and amnesty International, this are two independent bodies.
you can't dispute the very fact,that Russia is cupable in the forced deportation of Ukrainians to Russia.

Russia is trying to erase Ukraine heritage, the UN and Amnesty International reported that even in Russia held Ukrainian territory, civilians are given Russia passport, school curriculum are changed.

Stop defending a mass murderer putin

Gbadebo19:
Where did you see me write Russia having affinity for Ukrainians? it's vice versa. It's only happening because Ukraine is the one under attack. If the threat of a large magnitude comes to Russia, they would go to Ukrainians as well.
By the way, This is the second question you are dodging tonight. 😂😂😂 I am ashamed of you.

Don't be ashamed bro,🤣🤣🤣. She they try joor.
she is twice the man jjj37 Vic2023 and the other pillock tiktok man will ever be.


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Gbadebo19:
I have repeatedly said it, international politics and global matters are too gruesome for your kind of brain. When did USA invade Syria? So, an international coalition to defeat terrorism is now an invasion? Mtcheeeew!!!!

like father like son
Like slave master like his slave

Proof the bold

freakyamanda:
I have attached the leading pages of the Amnesty international report on Ukrainian atrocities in the Donbas. This started happening long before the secession, civil war and Russian invasion. So tell me who started it?

I am conversant with the atrocities in the donbass, it was committed by both sides of the divide, you can't dispute that pro Russian seperatists were also cupable.

The question is this which nation would sit idle and watch a armed seperatists movement fester in its territory, Russia started the whole debacle by publicly arming seperatists in the dombass and also further escalated the issue by giving recognition to an illegal break away by two sperate regions of the Ukrainian state.

Also seeing the war in the dombass wasn't favouring it's proxies. Putin up the tempo by invading Ukraine by its self, no matter how you paint it. A diplomatic situation would have been perfect but putin decided to plunged Europe into war.

obedience4:
A ceasefire is not the end of the war, during the last war with hazebolla, after the end the war when the peace was brokered. The Israelis withdrawn from Lebanon. The isrealis would surely move back when peace deal is brokered.

Don't get me wrong, Israel is not fighting Lebanon as s country but the entity called hazebolla which happens to be stationed in labenon.

You asked a question why are Lebanese not coming to Israel, I answered by saying the Israelis had no business with the civilians in labenon. They don't intend to hold any territory in labenon. Why will Lebanese flee there country to israel when there homes are not threatened??

The reason why Ukrainians are leaving Ukraine is unlike the Jews. Russia plan to annex there territory and take their lands. This are two distinct military campaign.

[b]Also there is no refugees crisis in Lebanon. [/b]The IDF simply told the civilians to move out of certain areas. It wish to conduct its operations and since the ceasefire came into effect most civilians are back to there homes.

Any Ukrainian going to Russia either forced or willfully was done as a result of the invasion of Russia period.
Stop sugar coating Russia and its crimes.

@ bolded

Pls go and rest Bcs you are just typing rubbish which full with lies
Pls I no own plenty talk you can argue with the UN that broadcasted it

It is a chicken and egg thing my brother, which one comes first?
Remember, the pro western regime in Kiev came to be as a result of revolt. Why were they so violent in cracking down on the revolt in the east?

They could have simply granted Luhansk and Donetsk a little autonomy and negotiate with them. It was the crackdown that brought in the Russian support for separatism.

In Syria all of you criticised Assad for cracking down on western and Gulf Arab sponsored protests so didn't you criticise Ukraine for same thing?

obedience4:
I am conversant with the atrocities in the donbass, it was committed by both sides of the divide, you can't dispute that pro Russian seperatists were also cupable.

The question is this which nation would sit idle and watch a armed seperatists movement fester in its territory, Russia started the whole debacle by publicly arming seperatists in the dombass and also further escalated the issue by giving recognition to an illegal break away by two sperate regions of the Ukrainian state.

Also seeing the war in the dombass wasn't favouring it's proxies. Putin up the tempo by invading Ukraine by its self, no matter how you paint it. A diplomatic situation would have been perfect but putin decided to plunged Europe into war.

Vic2023:
like father like son
Like slave master like his slave

Proof the bold

Young man go to the romance section. Stop jumbing on issues you have no iota of knowledge about.

US led coalition
France led coalition
Russia led coalition which involved Syria, Iran and Iraq
And the Arab coalition.