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Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:21pm On Jan 01, 2025
AlphaNugget:
✓ He works with faith.
Huh? You connect to him via prayer and he works with faith? Define faith? And what happens when you disconnect...I mean after you are done praying? undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Nobody: 9:22pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
am an agnostic and also believe that the spiritual world is real and people have the skills to access the spirits and access their realm
Therefore you are an Agnostic Theism.

"is it directly related to alleged spells that some books claim Solomon practiced to become the wisest man ever in the World"

Why then do you have this misconception of Solomon?
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:24pm On Jan 01, 2025
AlphaNugget:
Therefore you are an Agnostic Theism.

"is it directly related to alleged spells that some books claim Solomon practiced to become the wisest man ever in the World"

Why then do you have this misconception of Solomon?
angry
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:24pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
✓ why do you believe you are a law abiding citizen,
✓ have you read the Nigeria constitution from beginning to end
I am a law abidibg citizen because I livey life according to the teachings and commandments stipulated in the LAW. The fact that I don't have a criminal record, or outstanding warrants for my arrest at least serves as proof of this. 😀☝️

2. I didn't say I abide by the Nigerian Constitution, but yes, I have read the Nigerian Constitution from beginning to end at this point. 🤔
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
angry
You are really a confused human being
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:26pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
I am a law abidibg citizen because I livey life according to the teachings and commandments stipulated in the LAW. The fact that I don't have a criminal record, or outstanding warrants for my arrest at least serves as proof of this. 😀☝️

2. I didn't say I abide by the Nigerian Constitution, but yes, I have read the Nigerian Constitution from beginning to end at this point. 🤔
ok oh, allow people weh believe in incantations respond
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:27pm On Jan 01, 2025
AlphaNugget:
You are really a confused human being
if you say so
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:27pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
ok oh, allow people weh believe in incantations respond
Well, you claim to believe in it, right? That's why I am asking you. lipsrsealed
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:29pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Well, you claim to believe in it, right? That's why I am asking you. lipsrsealed
what is the most supernatural experience you have ever heard or experienced..
How old are you also
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Nobody: 9:29pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
if you say so
Because the Bible didn't say that Solomon castes any spell upon himself to be the "wisest" man on earth as at then......you should reoriented yourself and seek knowledge as an Agnostic who you supposedly assumed to be.

Close this thread and go read kids book
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:30pm On Jan 01, 2025
AlphaNugget:
Because the Bible didn't say that Solomon castes any spell upon himself to be the "wisest" man on earth as at then......you should reoriented yourself and seek knowledge as an Agnostic who you supposedly assumed to be.

Close this thread and go read kids book
ok help me buy padlock and lock it
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Nobody: 9:32pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
ok help me buy padlock and lock it
You are lacking.......GN
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:33pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
✓ what is the most supernatural experience you have ever heard or experienced..
✓ How old are you also
My experience led me to realizing the fraud of religion. It wasn't one time experience like the religious folks pretend. There was no one prayer to connect to a divine or anything of that sort and since that time, the experience has remained with me 24/7 --- live---, year after year. So what is your most supernatural experience?🤔

2. I am very old but age has little to nothing to do with even my experience which I continue to live with to this day. 🤔
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:33pm On Jan 01, 2025
AlphaNugget:
You are lacking.......GN
😎
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:34pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
My experience led me to realizing the fraud of religion. It wasn't one time experience like the religious folks pretend. There was no one prayer to connect to a divine or anything of that sort and since that time, the experience has remained with me 24/7 --- live---, year after year. So what is your most supernatural experience?🤔

2. I am very old but age has little to nothing to do with even my experience which I continue to live with to this day. 🤔
u never see jazz deh occur
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:39pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
/✓ u never see jazz deh occur
Explain what you mean by Jazz? I have experienced mental manipulation, scams, etc., though. undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:40pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Explain what you mean by Jazz? I have experienced mental manipulation, scams, etc., though. undecided
jazz or magic or something metaphysical...
I used to bed wet at about age 17..
After some ritual,I stopped betwetting along with my other siblings
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:55pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
jazz or magic or something metaphysical...
I used to bed wet at about age 17..
After some ritual,I stopped betwetting along with my other siblings
What you described isn't jazz/magic. In kids or growing individuals, it could be a result of anxiety or fear that has previously not been addressed. Kids usually stop after the problem has been resolved. It could be that whatever it was that held you up was resolved around the same time that the ritual was carried out but you choose to believe it was the ritual that made it all go away. undecided

I had similar issues myself but no amount of prayers or prophesying could make it disappear. It was not until years later that I addressed the cord anxieties and fears head on and it was finally resolved once and for all. undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 9:57pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
What you described isn't jazz/magic. In kids or growing individuals, it could be a result of anxiety or fear that has previously not been addressed. Kids usually stop after the problem has been resolved. It could be that whatever it was that held you up was resolved around the same time that the ritual was carried out but you choose to believe it was the ritual that made it all go away. undecided
it's all good...
So how was the earth created according to your beliefs
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:59pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
it's all good... So how was the earth created according to your beliefs
We are talking of how the earth was created here. You and I were not born then so it does not really matter of shouldn't be a focus at all since it will continue on even after we are both dead. undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 10:00pm On Jan 01, 2025
Kobojunkie:
We are talking of how the earth was created here. You and I were not born then so it does not really matter of shouldn't be a focus at all since it will continue on even after we are both dead. undecided
everything matters
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 10:08pm On Jan 01, 2025
Creativeseeker:
everything matters
According to Religion, right? 🤔
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by ruffhandu: 1:05am On Jan 02, 2025
Creativeseeker:
This incantations of various African traditional religions practice is it directly related to alleged spells that some books claim Solomon practiced to become the wisest man ever in the World
It is like a formula. 1+1=2. Anyhow 1 jam another 1, they will automatically become 2. Same way, certain words, mixed with the disposition of the inner being of the speaker, activates particular spirit beings. Some, after the incantations, you have to carry out further acts, like making a mark on the ground (like circle, or the star of david, which are called porals), which acts as open doors for these spirits to move from the plane where they exist to our world, or performing rituals by shedding animal or human blood.

From my brief up there, some spirits are easy to summon, while others are not. In most cases, the more difficult they are to summon, the more difficult they are to be sent away. For instance, a love portion prepared by the crushing of the heads of 7 tortoise and eaten by a man, is more difficult to break than the 'touch-and-follow' bought from an aboki in the market. A 'goodluck charm' ordered online, is less effective than a goodluck charm prepared using a cow. But, the demonic trick is, once you start by buying the seemingly 'harmless and cheap' charm, it works like a gas fire and fizzles away. Then you have tasted the luck the demons brought, and it disappears. This will make you long for more. You will now be asked to kill a chicken (which will attract a fairly stronger demon that can drag more luck to you than the previous). Not too long later, but certainly longer than the previous, it fizzles away. Then a stronger demon will have to be summonsed with goat's blood.

But one thing to note is, for every demon/spirit you summon, you become exposed and more susceptible to being attacked and possessed by demons, unless you specifically employ particular spirits to protect you from particular spirits/issues, which also comes at hefty price.

Life is much much deeper than we know it. But whatever you do, stay away from such, it never ends well.
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Creativeseeker(op): 6:15am On Jan 02, 2025
ruffhandu:
It is like a formula. 1+1=2. Anyhow 1 jam another 1, they will automatically become 2. Same way, certain words, mixed with the disposition of the inner being of the speaker, activates particular spirit beings. Some, after the incantations, you have to carry out further acts, like making a mark on the ground (like circle, or the star of david, which are called porals), which acts as open doors for these spirits to move from the plane where they exist to our world, or performing rituals by shedding animal or human blood.

From my brief up there, some spirits are easy to summon, while others are not. In most cases, the more difficult they are to summon, the more difficult they are to be sent away. For instance, a love portion prepared by the crushing of the heads of 7 tortoise and eaten by a man, is more difficult to break than the 'touch-and-follow' bought from an aboki in the market. A 'goodluck charm' ordered online, is less effective than a goodluck charm prepared using a cow. But, the demonic trick is, once you start by buying the seemingly 'harmless and cheap' charm, it works like a gas fire and fizzles away. Then you have tasted the luck the demons brought, and it disappears. This will make you long for more. You will now be asked to kill a chicken (which will attract a fairly stronger demon that can drag more luck to you than the previous). Not too long later, but certainly longer than the previous, it fizzles away. Then a stronger demon will have to be summonsed with goat's blood.

But one thing to note is, for every demon/spirit you summon, you become exposed and more susceptible to being attacked and possessed by demons, unless you specifically employ particular spirits to protect you from particular spirits/issues, which also comes at hefty price.

Life is much much deeper than we know it. But whatever you do, stay away from such, it never ends well.
well said
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by RealityKings1: 6:19am On Jan 02, 2025
Creativeseeker:
This incantations of various African traditional religions practice is it directly related to alleged spells that some books claim Solomon practiced to become the wisest man ever in the World
They are just similar to command prompts in computer.
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by RealityKings1: 6:28am On Jan 02, 2025
Kobojunkie:
What aspect of this which you claim is linked to the wisdom of Solomon? Have you ever witnessed or experienced any of these unseen spirits for yourself? Are they any different from say the forces of nature that have been scientifically accounted for thus far? undecided
Science is just an English word used to explain an experience that can be documented. It does not mean other things not documented aren't possible
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by RealityKings1: 6:31am On Jan 02, 2025
Creativeseeker:
based on vast stories passed on offline and online...
Solomon couldn't have been wise judging by making people engage in forced labour
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 7:06am On Jan 02, 2025
RealityKings1:
✓ Science is just an English word used to explain an experience that can be documented. It does not mean other things not documented aren't possible
You should probably reprocess the question. I didn't ask him of his idea of science at all. undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 5:20pm On Jan 02, 2025
Creativeseeker:
well said
Without proof or substance? 🤔
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by mysticwarrior(m): 9:22pm On Jan 02, 2025
When Christian speak in tongues while praying and others don't understand, is that not an incantation?
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Kobojunkie: 9:25pm On Jan 02, 2025
mysticwarrior:
➜When Christian speak in tongues while praying and others don't understand, is that not an incantation?
Incantations that have not proven of value in the lives of the 10 of millions of Christians who disturb the world with them, right? undecided
Re: How Does Incantation Makes Spirit To Come Into Human Reality by Nachmonides: 11:40pm On Jan 02, 2025
The spiritual; the unseen world. It is real and around us. It is unwise not to know this.
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