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The Jews entered the Promised Land through warfare and would almost certainly expand by the same act. It seems logical then to infer that God's tool of propagating the Torah and himself (by implication) is a very effective strategy at the time - warfare. Conversion happens by force, not by some flowery words. Preaching to conquered territories would come naturally. They wouldn't have to be instructed to do it. After all, the nation that propagates the ideas of its God and its religion is not the one that is commanded by its holy books to do so, but the one that succeeds quite well in the act of warfare. That should be quite obvious.

Fighting wars in ancient times is almost inevitable. There would always be reasons to fight. And the more successful you are in the battlefield, the more likely you are to proselytize people and get nations to your God. God already promised and guaranteed victory to the Jewish nations if they obeyed his laws, so it is not true at all that Moses was sent to only Israel and not to the world at large. If God was going to give them a Land through wars, he would almost certainly keep them and expand their territories through the same act. It seems it's only a matter of time before subjugated nations and people worship the one true God even though they would not willingly worship initially.

God does not have to spell out an obvious truth (in the Torah) on how he was going to use the Jews to draw mankind to himself after giving the Law. If the Jews expanded and conquered territories, wouldn't people be forced to accept their religion?

The point I am making is that Muhammad's claim that he Torah was sent through Moses for the benefit of the Jews is gross error. The Torah is supposed to benefit all of mankind for all ages.

The post you just read was a comment I made in its unmodified form to a Nairaland user, AntiChristian, some days ago.

Realizing how profound it is and its implications, I thought I would share it in the religion thread.

I am seeking the opinion of dissenters who disagree with the opinion stated therein, especially Muslims.

Let's talk.

As per this post

And this one too

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Baldwretch:
The Jews entered the Promised Land through warfare and would almost certainly expand by the same act. It seems logical then to infer that God's tool of propagating the Torah and himself (by implication) is a very effective strategy at the time - warfare. Conversion happens by force, not by some flowery words. Preaching to conquered territories would come naturally. They wouldn't have to be instructed to do it. After all, the nation that propagates the ideas of its God and its religion is not the one that is commanded by its holy books to do so, but the one that succeeds quite well in the act of warfare. That should be quite obvious.

Fighting wars in ancient times is almost inevitable. There would always be reasons to fight. And the more successful you are in the battlefield, the more likely you are to proselytize people and get nations to your God. God already promised and guaranteed victory to the Jewish nations if they obeyed his laws, so it is not true at all that Moses was sent to only Israel and not to the world at large. If God was going to give them a Land through wars, he would almost certainly keep them and expand their territories through the same act. It seems it's only a matter of time before subjugated nations and people worship the one true God even though they would not willingly worship initially.

God does not have to spell out an obvious truth (in the Torah) on how he was going to use the Jews to draw mankind to himself after giving the Law. If the Jews expanded and conquered territories, wouldn't people be forced to accept their religion?

The point I am making is that Muhammad's claim that he Torah was sent through Moses for the benefit of the Jews is gross error. The Torah is supposed to benefit all of mankind for all ages.

Well, I do not think that God wanted to propagate the Torah. He already had a plan for a New Covenant, hence propagating a covenant that would soon be abolished was just unnecessary.

God's strategy was to create a model nation through whom He would reach the whole world. The model nation need a place in an already populated world. To create a place for them, God had to remove the wicked through a just punishment. This was what informed the wars of Canaan.

Baldwretch:
➜ The Jews entered the Promised Land through warfare and would almost certainly expand by the same act. It seems logical then to infer that God's tool of propagating the Torah and himself (by implication) is a very effective strategy at the time - warfare. Conversion happens by force, not by some flowery words. Preaching to conquered territories would come naturally. They wouldn't have to be instructed to do it. After all, the nation that propagates the ideas of its God and its religion is not the one that is commanded by its holy books to do so, but the one that succeeds quite well in the act of warfare. That should be quite obvious.
Fighting wars in ancient times is almost inevitable. There would always be reasons to fight. And the more successful you are in the battlefield, the more likely you are to proselytize people and get nations to your God. God already promised and guaranteed victory to the Jewish nations if they obeyed his laws, so it is not true at all that Moses was sent to only Israel and not to the world at large. If God was going to give them a Land through wars, he would almost certainly keep them and expand their territories through the same act. It seems it's only a matter of time before subjugated nations and people worship the one true God even though they would not willingly worship initially.
God does not have to spell out an obvious truth (in the Torah) on how he was going to use the Jews to draw mankind to himself after giving the Law. If the Jews expanded and conquered territories, wouldn't people be forced to accept their religion?
The point I am making is that Muhammad's claim that he Torah was sent through Moses for the benefit of the Jews is gross error. The Torah is supposed to benefit all of mankind for all ages.

This here is what is an opinion piece based on fiction and not facts.

Baldwretch:
The post you just read was a comment I made in its unmodified form to a Nairaland user, AntiChristian, some days ago.
Realizing how profound it is and its implications, I thought I would share it in the religion thread.
I am seeking the opinion of dissenters who disagree with the opinion stated therein, especially Muslims.
Let's talk.

There is nothing profound about what is rather an opinion piece that avoids the facts.

Kobojunkie:
This here is what is an opinion piece based on fiction and not facts.

Let me get your right: there was never a war against the Canaanites (in their own land) by a bunch of outsiders called the Jews who invaded their lands and killed them in their thousands? Is that what you are calling fiction? It never happened?

Baldwretch:
✓ Let me get your right: there was never a war against the Canaanites (in their own land) by a bunch of outsiders called the Jews who invaded their lands and killed them in their thousands? Is that what you are calling fiction? It never happened?

No!🤔

The people known as the Jews only came to be after the former nation of Israel was divided in to two separate nations -- the Northern nation of Israel and the Southern nation of Judae whose people were subsequently regarded as Jews after they were then taken into captivity by the Babylonians. The nation of Judae was created from the descendants of merely the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi..these are those regarded as the Jews.

FxMasterz:
Well, I do not think that God wanted to propagate the Torah. He already had a plan for a New Covenant, hence propagating a covenant that would soon be abolished was just unnecessary.

God's strategy was to create a model nation through whom He would reach the whole world. The model nation need a place in an already populated world. To create a place for them, God had to remove the wicked through a just punishment. This was what informed the wars of Canaan.

God would propagate the Torah and himself by implications and he actually had a well-defined blueprint.

He would first carve out a bunch of people for himself from another nation, a very powerful one of its time. Then he would take this carved out nation into the midst of another well populated region; then he would displace the people who live in this region and in surrounding areas, expand and conquer east and westwards. Of course, so much warfare would occur. All of these would involve brute force and physical and spiritual power, but the warriors' victory is assured and guaranteed because God would be the one to give them victory, not by their swords.

Here is the problem, however, victory is never guaranteed without obedience. The Israelite were very rebellious and could not tap into God's blessing, his solid promises of one warrior chasing a thousand, and his protections. I think it's in the book of Judges or Joshua in chapter 2 or 3 or 4 (don't remember, NLT) where it says God did not quickly drive out the Canaanite from the land because he did so to teach future generations of Israelite who had no experience in battle about the act of warfare.

Now, why is warfare so important? The prophet Daniel, being in a foreign land, would be in a better position to answer this question. He knows fully well and understands indubitably that the most successful war-mongers have their religion and their God as the de-facto one. Everyone in the region and beyond would have worshiped Yahweh through a show of physical power and force had the Jewish people obeyed the laws and lived blamelessly before him. In the end, the Torah would have been a guiding principles for both the Jews and the gentiles. It wasn't because the Jews did not gbe ori duro!

God had to resort to spiritual power, not physical power as is the case with warfare, to get people to know him - and viola, we have a religion with more than 1.5 billion followers, Christianity.

SO yes, God had wanted to propagate the Torah and make it the guiding principle for mankind for all ages but the rebellious Jews didn't make that happen. In fact, they struggled to live up to the righteousness of the surrounding nations God had driven out before them.

I would answer your second objection later.

Kobojunkie:
No!🤔

The people known as the Jews only came to be after the former nation of Israel was divided in to two separate nations -- the Northern nation of Israel and the Southern nation of Judae whose people were subsequently regarded as Jews after they were then taken into captivity by the Babylonians. The nation of Judae was created from the descendants of merely the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi..these are those regarded as the Jews.

I will answer you tomorrow.

Baldwretch:
✓ I will answer you tomorrow.

No point since your OP clearly indicates that the stated opinion is not based on Scriptural fact but on religious/fictional claims you were fed.

Baldwretch:
God would propagate the Torah and himself by implications and he actually had a well-defined blueprint.

He would first carve out a bunch of people for himself from another nation, a very powerful one of its time. Then he would take this carved out nation into the midst of another well populated region; then he would displace the people who live in this region and in surrounding areas, expand and conquer east and westwards. Of course, so much warfare would occur. All of these would involve brute force and physical and spiritual power, but the warriors' victory is assured and guaranteed because God would be the one to give them victory, not by their swords.

Here is the problem, however, victory is never guaranteed without obedience. The Israelite were very rebellious and could not tap into God's blessing, his solid promises of one warrior chasing a thousand, and his protections. I think it's in the book of Judges or Joshua in chapter 2 or 3 or 4 (don't remember, NLT) where it says God did not quickly drive out the Canaanite from the land because he did so to teach future generations of Israelite who had no experience in battle about the act of warfare.

Now, why is warfare so important? The prophet Daniel, being in a foreign land, would be in a better position to answer this question. He knows fully well and understands indubitably that the most successful war-mongers have their religion and their God as the de-facto one. Everyone in the region and beyond would have worshiped Yahweh through a show of physical power and force had the Jewish people obeyed the laws and lived blamelessly before him. In the end, the Torah would have been a guiding principles for both the Jews and the gentiles. It wasn't because the Jews did not gbe ori duro!

God had to resort to spiritual power, not physical power as is the case with warfare, to get people to know him - and viola, we have a religion with more than 1.5 billion followers, Christianity.

SO yes, God had wanted to propagate the Torah and make it the guiding principle for mankind for all ages but the rebellious Jews didn't make that happen. In fact, they struggled to live up to the righteousness of the surrounding nations God had driven out before them.

I would answer your second objection later.

My brother, it doesn't make sense that God would propagate the Torah through war and then settled for a very miniature portion of the world. Your assertion would make sense if the Israelites were warring from place to place the way the Islamic god propagated Islam.

Infact, God commanded the complete annihilation of those wicked nations. He didn't ask Israel to convert anybody. They were to learn the art of war for defence only, not for the propagation of the Torah. God's intention was Jesus. The Torah was a shadow of some real things that were to come. God didn't tell Israel to go propagate the shadow. When. Jesus came with the real thing, He said "Go ye into the world..."

God clearly just gave Israel a portion in the middle East, and clearly instructed them not to go beyond that portion. Even within that vicinity, there were many pagan nations God expressly warned Israel not to tamper with.

He obviously was in lab, cleared a table for this specimen, and once He was done with His Beta, He released His version 2.0 to the world through the Lord Jesus.

FxMasterz:
My brother, it doesn't make sense that God would propagate the Torah through war and then settled for a very miniature portion of the world. Your assertion would make sense if the Israelites were warring from place to place the way the Islamic god propagated Islam.

Infact, God commanded the complete annihilation of those wicked nations. He didn't ask Israel to convert anybody. They were to learn the art of war for defence only, not for the propagation of the Torah. God's intention was Jesus. The Torah was a shadow of some real things that were to come. God didn't tell Israel to go propagate the shadow. When. Jesus came with the real thing, He said "Go ye into the world..."

God clearly just gave Israel a portion in the middle East, and clearly instructed them not to go beyond that portion. Even within that vicinity, there were many pagan nations God expressly warned Israel not to tamper with.

He obviously was in lab, cleared a table for this specimen, and once He was done with His Beta, He released His version 2.0 to the world through the Lord Jesus.

If God had to come down in his persona and in his form, which, by the way, never happened again, to instruct and to give his laws, then you should know that this is not child's play. If God had to tarry with Moses on the mountain for 40 days and for another 40 days instructing him, you should be aware at this point that God means business. In fact, if God had to yank a nation from another nation, one of the most powerful of its time through warfare, and then take this nation into another territory by warfare, and then expand the said nation by fighting wars, it should be clear at this point that these killings are not done for sports. He really wants mankind to know him through the channel he has instituted - which is physical power. There is no overthinking this with God.

Physical power has its limit but there is so much it can accomplish too. You can ask Esther who chronicled an event in which she and other Jewish exiles were in real danger of extermination. You can ask her how vast the empire in question spans - how big of a territory provinces stretching from India to Ethiopia is, Est. 1: 1. Or, you could ask Daniel what his eyes saw in Babylon when all nations and people under the different Babylonian monarchs worshiped and bow down to the Babylonian gods on the threat of death. Or, you could ask the northern Kingdom (Israel, who got displaced by Assyria) what it feels like to have foreigners of mixed nationalities settle in your own territory. There is just so much physical power can accomplish in the propagation of the Torah.

Imagine what God said of Nebuchadnezzar through the prophet Jeremiah and Daniel were true of the Jewish state that he has put everything, even the wild animals, under Nebuchadnessar's control. Jeremiah 27:6-7, Daniel 4 (NLT). Lol! If that was the case and Christ never came, then you and I would have been Judaic professors by fire or by force. Lol.

Certainly, the Torah would have snowballed into something else, something mighty, something powerful, something unhinged, but that is not the case.

Now, you are confusing two distinct commands. The Jews were given two commands as it pertains to war in Deuteronomy 20. One was supposed to be time-bound because it applied to the territory they would displace and occupy, i.e Canaan. The other command applies to distant nation far off from Canaan they would have to wage war against over time. These are separate commands.

In fact, the chapter starts off by saying: When you go out to fight your enemies and you face....

and then it instructs the people and priest on what is reuired of them in the process. One verse I'd like to draw your attention to is chpater 15 and onwards. it reads

15 But these instructions apply only to
distant towns, not to the towns of
nations nearby.

16"As for the towns of the nations the
LORD your God is giving you as a
special possession, destroy every living
thing in them.

17You must completely destroy the
Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites,
Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just
as the LORD your God has commanded
you.

This is clear enough.

The outpouring of the Spirit, I would like to think, is a medium of last resort. Although I would have you ponder the fact that God had this all figured out back in eternity, but then, yes, we cannot compartmentalize God, so I partially agree with your take. It's just like arguing on what would happen and the sequence of events that would follow if Adam had not sinned.

AntiChristian:
You didn't even quote one verse to buttress anything!

Hello AntiChristian,

Do I need to quote any verse of the bible to buttress my claims? Did I tell a lie in my write-up?

Did I make up anything in what I just wrote?

Baldwretch:
Hello AntiChristian,

Do I need to quote any verse of the bible to buttress my claims? Did I tell a lie in my write-up?

Did I make up anything in what I just wrote?

All these are your personal statements. No evidences! If the Torah is for all ages then it would have been well preserved without copyist errors! Also there won't be a need for your new testament.

AntiChristian:
All these are your personal statements. No evidences! If the Torah is for all ages then it would have been well preserved without copyist errors! Also there won't be a need for your new testament.

Don't mind the Dolt, the Torah is for All Mankind for all ages yet it was abolished some 2,000+ years ago when God came to offer Himself to Himself in order to forgive Adam and Eve transgression in the Garden?

Ask this people to apply just One out of the many Laws Jehovah dictated to Moses in their lives they will start saying nonsense yet here we have a Retard saying it is for all Mankind and ages.

Even the Jews don't apply the ordinance of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob again but a random retard on Nairaland is saying otherwise.

Orisirisi something.

Lukuluku69:
Don't mind the Dolt, the Torah is for All Mankind for all ages yet it was abolished some 2,000+ years ago when God came to offer Himself to Himself in order to forgive Adam and Eve transgression in the Garden?

Ask this people to apply just One out of the many Laws Jehovah dictated to Moses in their lives they will start saying nonsense yet here we have a Retard saying it is for all Mankind and ages.

Even the Jews don't apply the ordinance of God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob again but a random retard on Nairaland is saying otherwise.

Orisirisi something.

It is Liars and sinners and those who do not read the Bible who say it is abolished despite the very clear Words of Christ Who directly Said even from the beginning of His Talk "I came not to abolish but to full fill."

Dtruthspeaker:
It is Liars and sinners and those who do not read the Bible who say it is abolished despite the very clear Words of Christ Who directly Said even from the beginning of His Talk "I came not to abolish but to full fill."

Then it means ALL of you are Liars and Sinners because I have never seen nor Heard of any Christian that appeals to God's Law as contained in the Bible to judge between them. None!

Rather you will be quoting Man made Laws. You just did some moments ago!

AntiChristian:
All these are your personal statements. No evidences! If the Torah is for all ages then it would have been well preserved without copyist errors! Also there won't be a need for your new testament.

The Bible Said a king should copy the Commandments (history of Constitutions) and it should be read out And KJV shows it was duly preserved with no errors!

Lukuluku69:
Then it means ALL of you are Liars and Sinners because I have never seen nor Heard of any Christian that appeals to God's Law as contained in the Bible to judge between them. None!

Rather you will be quoting Man made Laws. You just did some moments ago!

Again you are wrong in saying this for almost every church goer and Christian pleads the Bible even when they are not aware that all of The Laws they plead are contained in The Laws and Judgements God gave Moses to give the world.

And 90% of manmade laws come from God's Laws called Natural Law which is why I used the manmade one as an example to primarily show you that man recognised them and had taken them up and pronouncing many of them laws in their powerless documents called constitutions and acts.

Dtruthspeaker:
Again you are wrong in saying this for almost every church goer and Christian pleads the Bible even when they are not aware that all of The Laws they plead are contained in The Laws and Judgements God gave Moses to give the world.

And 90% of manmade laws come from God's Laws called Natural Law which is why I used the manmade one as an example to primarily show you that man recognised them and had taken them up and pronouncing many of them laws in their powerless documents called constitutions and acts.

Lol

Padre, what is God's Law against Theft, Murder, Trade as contained in the Torah and what is obtainable in most space occupied by Christians?

What does it says about Lesbianism, Sodomy and even copulating with Animals and what is obtainable in Christian space?

What about Adultery? What does the Torah says and what do you Christians prescribe or apply?

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Padre, what is God's Law against Theft, Murder, Trade as contained in the Torah and what is obtainable in most space occupied by Christians?

What does it says about Lesbianism, Sodomy and even copulating with Animals and what is obtainable in Christian space?

What about Adultery? What does the Torah says and what do you Christians prescribe or apply?

You obviously have never read the Commandments!

Baldwretch:
The Jews entered the Promised Land through warfare and would almost certainly expand by the same act. It seems logical then to infer that God's tool of propagating the Torah and himself (by implication) is a very effective strategy at the time - warfare. Conversion happens by force, not by some flowery words. Preaching to conquered territories would come naturally. They wouldn't have to be instructed to do it. After all, the nation that propagates the ideas of its God and its religion is not the one that is commanded by its holy books to do so, but the one that succeeds quite well in the act of warfare. That should be quite obvious.

Fighting wars in ancient times is almost inevitable. There would always be reasons to fight. And the more successful you are in the battlefield, the more likely you are to proselytize people and get nations to your God. God already promised and guaranteed victory to the Jewish nations if they obeyed his laws, so it is not true at all that Moses was sent to only Israel and not to the world at large. If God was going to give them a Land through wars, he would almost certainly keep them and expand their territories through the same act. It seems it's only a matter of time before subjugated nations and people worship the one true God even though they would not willingly worship initially..

God does not have to spell out an obvious truth (in the Torah) on how he was going to use the Jews to draw mankind to himself after giving the Law. If the Jews expanded and conquered territories, wouldn't people be forced to accept their religion?.

You are mixing things up.

The Wiping of Canaan was a necessary show of God to reclaim what He had lost to His world taken up by pagans.

So this was Him beginning His establishment of the claim of the earth. For how can He Say He owns the world and yet He does not have even 1 territory in it.

So, taking lands from the pagan world was the first step.

And as you see after He started moving, the whole world feared His chosen land and people called Isreal.

And if they had done His will, what you people are doing in running to Europe and America and elsewhere, is what the world would have been doing in running to Isreal or would have been aligning with Isreal and seeing them as UN because of the way God would have super blessed and prospered them.

And this is where you see that was the same plan which Satan has hijacked and raised up his own places where people are all running to and shouting saying "this is heaven" as they obey all that they command.

All these was supposed to be Isreal and not UK, Canada, Us etc

Dtruthspeaker:
You obviously have never read the Commandments!

Padre, I have read it more times than you would imagine and you Christians don't follow any of it.

You cherry pick the one to follow and what's more a certain Paul called God's Law a Curse and you all believed him.

Lukuluku69:
Padre, I have read it more times than you would imagine and you Christians don't follow any of it.

You cherry pick the one to follow and what's more a certain Paul called God's Law a Curse and you all believed him.

Even Isreal did not follow it though Abraham did. So following it is a personal matter exactly how condemnation is still a personal matter.

And those who are Cursed, see they are Cursed which is why many keep trying to find and pray and seek solutions to all their curses

Like I have always maintained. The Torah was written by Ezra when they returned home from the Babylonian exile. It was Ezra that created Judaism as the national religion of the Israelites.
The stories (majority) are gotten from the Babylonian myths. It is still about the two brothers Enki(Jacob) and Enlil(Esau). And their sons and daughters.
Enlil and his sons and daughters represents the right hand side of God(Marduk). They are not favorable to him. They represent the evil side of God. Then later both Enki and Enlil gave their Attributes to Marduk (Hashem) see Isaiah 45:7.
The left hand side represents the negative side of God, like envy, doubt(Amalekites), jealousy etc.
God represents our higher consciousness. The war is happening within us. Like the Amalikites which represents doubt. It means you have to eliminate all forms of doubt within you. (That was why God was angry at Saul for saving some of them.
Women generally represent wisdom in Hebrew mythology. So the kind of woman represents the kind of wisdom. Pro.stitute represents common sense and virgin represents divine wisdom.....

So in other to understand the Hebrew Bible you need some ideas about their symbolisms and their numerology....

If no what ever you say is rubbish....

Dtruthspeaker:
Even Isreal did not follow it though Abraham did. So following it is a personal matter exactly how condemnation is still a personal matter.

And those who are Cursed, see they are Cursed which is why many keep trying to find and pray and seek solutions to all their curses

Following God's Law is not a Personal matter! It is a Collective matter. It is a lifelong matter for we are to do God's will on earth.

I will suggest you do a re-read of the Old Testament to understand better. It is not a personal thing but a Collective one by the State for that is Truly what is meant by The Kingdom of God.

A State that upholds God Laws only while believing in Him.

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible Said a king should copy the Commandments (history of Constitutions) and it should be read out And KJV shows it was duly preserved with no errors!

Which KJV no get error?

AntiChristian:
Which KJV no get error?

You dey quote devil JW "Awake"?

Jws wey dem be occult and no be Christian? Find better thing talk Na.

Lukuluku69:
Following God's Law is not a Personal matter! It is a Collective matter. It is a lifelong matter for we are to do God's will on earth.

I will suggest you do a re-read of the Old Testament to understand better. It is not a personal thing but a Collective one by the State for that is Truly what is meant by The Kingdom of God.

A State that upholds God Laws only while believing in Him.

The whole world was there but it was the person of Abraham whom God dealt with. Same for his sons.

Same for Obed Edom even though the Ark was in Isreal.

And the Bible clearly said it "if any/ if you .. " and not "if everybody or if all".

So it is personal!

Dtruthspeaker:
You dey quote devil JW "Awake"?

Jws wey dem be occult and no be Christian? Find better thing talk Na.

But they are correct!
Thousands of errors are in the KJV!