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SonofElElyonRet:
Your personal myopic straight jacketed interpretation

lolz..cry more

Kam2021:
I unread this. If you are not sure don't say what you don't know.

Everything was stated, how an animal deceived Eve and advised Eve to deceive Adam. The animal was called snake and sapent which if you analyse it well. It's a subtle being. Snake was used to represent they type of creature.

7arrows:
Is taking cocaine and codeine a sin? NO. It's just harmful to your body and you will pay for it when the negative result shows.

Holly Gram Snoop dog still de active. Fela children still de active. Burna boy still de active and many more

WTF MAN!

May be taking hard drugs, including marijuana and cocaine is equally not sinful.

Imagine how the kingdom of darkness wld be happy with this kind of sermon...
The Bible says be not unequally yoke with unbelievers.

femi4:
lolz..cry more

Not crying... just calling a spade a spade

Coming from a man that said you should not struggle with Pornography but you should continue to watch and be listening to his message.

This man is from the Devil. He's not of God

7arrows:
How is alcohol and cigarettes a sin? My guy u need to study and ask for understanding from God. Alcohol and cigarette are harmful to your body and has nothing to do with sin. You are only harming yourself just like eating too much chocolate and taking too much sugar

it’s a sin please. Read the scriptures to understand

vikyno:
Most people did not even bother to listen to the tape before cruxifying him.
He said the truth.

I alway knew the " Apple " being reffered to in the bible that Adam and Eve ate was just figurative.

He asked, where you there? I am asking him too, all the ones he has been saying from the bible, was he there? to claim it was not something they eat. Using old testament to counter what Jesus said in new testament, forgetting that some things where modified by Jesus christ when he was on earth. He is talking lots of craps lately.

femi4:
He never said that, he meant abuse of cigarettes will cut short your life

Adam and Eve sin is disobedience not what they ate

Get the full message

whatever he said is irrelevant as he is there when it happened likewise as he ask his followers if they were there. Using old testament to counter what Jesus said in new testament while we all know, he modified some things when he came

Judolisco:
Adeboye called him a mad man... Now he is showing his insanity in full force.... He is saying Adam and eve did not eat anything, that eating something can't make you sin and he cited a text in the new testament....

D sin of Adam and eve wasn't because they ate the forbidden fruit, it's because they disobeyed.... But they ate the fruit and there was a garden, if you deny the fruit, then, you must deny the garden, then u must deny creation and soon you'll deny God.... No be you go come twist bible gimme oga damina

Make damina come join our children church make we teach am from scratch.....

Nice one, that was what I find amusing, quoting from new testament for something that happened in old. When, we know that Jesus Christ made some modifications when he came.

occfx:
Fornication!!! It doesn't matter who lured who, if you fornicate and get HIV, what caused you to fornicate becomes irrelevant.

Fornication? How? Adam and Eve were husband and wife!! Have you ever read your bible? How can a couple fornicate?

SonofElElyonRet:
The location of eden was well described in the bible together with the boundary rivers. Archaeology will tell you the precise location..

The guarding was a temporary measure till adam and eve were no longer able to access it.. Obviously God took the tree away eventually after the whole earth got corrupted. revelation tells us that God will again restore the tree of life in the new Jerusalem which will be a city come down from heaven. But of course you don't believe in the New Jerusalem either now or do you

Which Bible said the bolded? Can a corrupt world bypass a cherub? Was God unsure of the Cherubs ability to protect the tree of life?

Secondly, you should be humble enough to now agree that the whole dealings of Genesis 2 and 3 were spiritual. God never came down in the physical form to meet Adam. The garden was the whole earth, and the tree was never a tree of fruit but a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That means, it was knowledge God was talking about there.

Peace bro.

oroje1:
Read 2Cor. 7:1 it talks about christians cleansing themselves of every defilement of FLESH and spirit, cigarettes certainly defiles the flesh as the federal ministry of health warns... Then Gen.2:16&17 say that God told Adam to eat from every other trees in the garden except from the tree of knowledge of good and bad,so denying that that tree doesn't exist means all other trees that are here today doesn't exist either.

Don't kid yourself, no modern English has any true saying to what the original Christian religion was all about. English language was never the Christian language. There is no true translation. The scrolls were all written in Hebrew and Aramaic, which were translated to Greek then to Latin, before being translated to English. There is no 90% word for word translation in the English version. Even 70% word for word translation has not been attainable. Off late, it has been suggested the Book of Genesis might have been written in poet style. That means everything has to be decoded before translation. Cannabis has always been used in ancient times, all shamans from all religion use them to connect to their gods. It has been used as painkillers. The forbidden fruit is unknown. Fruit in Hebrew and Aramaic is (p'ri/parah) both meaning fruit from a tree and the act of sex. Forbidden fruit mean something you desire to have, but it is forbidden. It doesn't refer to the act of eating something from a tree. If you want to understand Christian, you must understand Hebrew and Aramaic on a native level. English version is filled with mistranslations.

When you desire to please your audience and become more popular, you will certainly miss it.
A dead person decays because because they are dead, but something originally killed them. When
you sin, you do so because you are a sinner. A sinner is dead and their sinful life is a consequent
process of decay.

That explains what Jesus means in Matthew 15:11 when He says what goes into a man does not make
him sinful but what is inside him. All humanity died in Eden through the first disobedience of
Adam and Eve, and what they ate 'killed' them (Everybody needs to read Genesis 3 again). That was
the original sin. That was the death. humanity has never been better since then. That is why every human
being has become naturally predisposed to doing evil. Corruption is never reversible - once the process is set off,
it continues.

Damina misconstrues the onset with the progression to please himself. You are dead until the life of God through
Jesus Christ comes into you and remains there. It comes into when you believe and surrender yourself to the finished
work of Christ, the perfect work of the cross; it continues there if you keep on believing in Him. Jesus says, 'Verily, verily,
I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live' (John 5:25).

Nwaikpe:
Which Bible said the bolded? Can a corrupt world bypass a cherub? Was God unsure of the Cherubs ability to protect the tree of life?

Secondly, you should be humble enough to now agree that the whole dealings of Genesis 2 and 3 were spiritual. God never came down in the physical form to meet Adam. The garden was the whole earth, and the tree was never a tree of fruit but a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That means, it was knowledge God was talking about there.

Peace bro.

Your private interpretation...
The heavenly city of new Jerusalem will come down from heaven according to revelation and will have the Tree of life. That answers your bolded portion.. you are simply in denial.. shalom

sparko1:
It's not figurative, it's real, it's different from the apple you consume but real.

The apple itself is a problem, don't listen to those saying it's not the problem, immediately after consuming it, their eyes well open, they now recognize their unclothedness and lying, pretense, blaming others, stubbornness, everything begin to show.

If it is different from the Apple we consume then it is figurative. Meaning it is something else they did and that's the message the Pastor was trying to pass.

gasparpisciotta:
On the Apple matter I tend to agree with Pst Damina.

Adam and Eve were corrupted by something that revealed their inner minds to them, could be Marijuana or other intoxicants.

The Bible we are reading today has been modified a couple of times and many new things have been inserted or changed completely.

However on the issue of what you take in and what comes out, that is where I get I little confused.

Some people take high intoxicants that leads them to committing many atrocities, are we saying it is not the act of of taking intoxicants that led them to misbehave?

Jesus said and I quote- a man is not defiled by what enters his mouth but what comes out.

So a drunkard that spills rubbish is not defiled by the drink but by his vituperations?

I think it is better to abstain from anything that will intoxicate anyone to do evil.

I love you for being sincere about the bible up there. The question now is... Is the bible fully the words of God that we can trust or partly the words of God one need to verify before trusting?

Nokio2:
That's not my problem sha
My salary is 55k
So from Jan 2024,I told my oga to be paying me 50k,that he should help me be saving the remaining 5 5k so I will collect the balance on new year day
Kai human being, yesterday oga say I will not get shi shi that how I have I being surviving tpain with only 50k with out stealing his money?
Since yesterday my heart is doing gudum gudum gudum...

..why couldn't you save the 5k in a deposit account...than telling your oga to save it

vikyno:
Most people did not even bother to listen to the tape before cruxifying him.
He said the truth.

I alway knew the " Apple " being reffered to in the bible that Adam and Eve ate was just figurative.

..so Adam and eve did not eat any apple.. when the bible said they ate apple

Nwaikpe:
Which Bible said the bolded? Can a corrupt world bypass a cherub? Was God unsure of the Cherubs ability to protect the tree of life?

Secondly, you should be humble enough to now agree that the whole dealings of Genesis 2 and 3 were spiritual. God never came down in the physical form to meet Adam. The garden was the whole earth, and the tree was never a tree of fruit but a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That means, it was knowledge God was talking about there.

Peace bro.

If you read your bible well you'll see that the location of the garden of eden was delineated and described by the boundaries of rivers which have been identified by archaeologists. Next time do some simple googling before making statements

press9jatv:
Hmm 🤔 another year for this pastor to trend. On this one, I disagree with him

.. what he is trying to say people should drink and smoke with moderation..not to take excess of it and be too addicted to it...which too much alcohol can make a person drunk and too much smoking can cause heart problems and health problems..drink and smoke with sense...like sugar do not take too much sugar..sugar can cause diabetes ..too much salt taking can cause high blood pressure and health problems...so taking too much of things and in excess and addicted to it can cause health issues and problems..to take them in moderation and carefully

Pastor Damina is right on this, it is not what goes inside of you that defiles you, but what comes out of you. But what comes out of you is defined by what goes inside you, this is why we must guard our hearts and bellies with all diligence.

The forbidden fruit was idolatry; Adam and Eve corrupted themselves in the idolatrous ways of their heathen neighbours and this idolatry destroyed their relationship with God.

Drinking alcohol is not a sin but it will make a mockery of you and kill you
Smoking ciga can give somebody lung cancer
Sex with multiple sex partners can gibe you incurable STI

Wisdom is profitable to direct especially for this last stages of the great tribulation. Be guided and be wise

vikyno:
If it is different from the Apple we consume then it is figurative. Meaning it is something else they did and that's the message the Pastor was trying to pass.

How many types of apples do we have?

Just because it's not exactly what we call apple now doesn't make it figurative, and BTW, if you are implying they had sex, (did) that doesn't sound ominous, God created male can and female, the grand plan was obviously for them to procreate.

The Bible is not some textbook, you don't need to contextualize it, everything started is a fact, it's exactly how it was started.

MrPresident1:
Pastor Damina is right on this, it is not what goes inside of you that defiles you, but what comes out of you. But what comes out of you is defined by what goes inside you, this is why we must guard our hearts and bellies with all diligence.

The forbidden fruit was idolatry; Adam and Eve corrupted themselves in the idolatrous ways of their heathen neighbours and this idolatry destroyed their relationship with God.

Drinking alcohol is not a sin but it will make a mockery of you and kill you
Smoking ciga can give somebody lung cancer
Sex with multiple sex partners can gibe you incurable STI

Wisdom is profitable to direct especially for this last stages of the great tribulation. Be guided and be wise

Apart from the fact that everything you said is rubbish.

The two bolded points to a deeper lack of understanding of the Bible.

Firstly, by implying a man can't be corrupted by what he eat is a complete misrepresentation, the passage you quoted was in reference to unclean animal or meat and the act of physical purification of the scribes in Jesus time. Food offered to idols is a good example.

Secondly, do you even know the meaning of idolatry, there were no other gods in the garden, the serpent didn't asked to be worshiped, the devil only wants them to disobey God, that's why when it came to the woman, he said "which of the fruit of the garden did God ask you not to eat?" The question implies he was only interested in making them disobey God.

Finally, all the other garbage you concocted together is more of wishful thinking, whether it's small alcohol or one drum, alcohol is the same, from the story of the apple, they didn't have to eat the whole apple on the tree, just one apple shared by both was enough, you don't need to be drunk.

Just an addition, the stories in the Bible points to something specific, DISOBEDIENCE! that is the single most annoying thing to God, it doesn't matter how much church you attend, once you disobey, everything else is worthless.

brain54:
Chris oyakilome said the same thing...

He wasn't persecuted.

I remember Chris said cigarette and achohol are habits and not sin.

Damina likes controversial topics though. Lol.

Maybe that's his calling!

You clowns look for validation anywhere like scavengers.


Same Pastor Chris that said “no Christian (or was it preacher?) worth his salt should be drinking “?



Let me tell you two things you can't do:

1. You cannot nitpick someone’s message to suit your agenda.

2. You cannot go against Scriptures.

So if I'm to believe ur transliteration of the word fruit from the Hebrew and aramaic.why should I not believe in Bible translations that were translated from the original texts.?you see,as humans we feel we know so much and so we search less for the truth.and so we want to explain God the way it suits us...false Christianity has done much harm to the Bible and so it has made many to loose interest in seeking the truths there in....if God mentioned every fruit producing trees and then mentioned with them the tree of the knowledge of good and bad then that tree is literal,,the tree stands for God's right to rule,his right to decide for mankind what is good or bad..a right that Adam ( mankind) should have realized

agentarcher:
Don't kid yourself, no modern English has any true saying to what the original Christian religion was all about. English language was never the Christian language. There is no true translation. The scrolls were all written in Hebrew and Aramaic, which were translated to Greek then to Latin, before being translated to English. There is no 90% word for word translation in the English version. Even 70% word for word translation has not been attainable. Off late, it has been suggested the Book of Genesis might have been written in poet style. That means everything has to be decoded before translation. Cannabis has always been used in ancient times, all shamans from all religion use them to connect to their gods. It has been used as painkillers. The forbidden fruit is unknown. Fruit in Hebrew and Aramaic is (p'ri/parah) both meaning fruit from a tree and the act of sex. Forbidden fruit mean something you desire to have, but it is forbidden. It doesn't refer to the act of eating something from a tree. If you want to understand Christian, you must understand Hebrew and Aramaic on a native level. English version is filled with mistranslations.

sparko1:
How many types of apples do we have?

Just because it's not exactly what we call apple now doesn't make it figurative, and BTW, if you are implying they had sex, (did) that doesn't sound ominous, God created male can and female, the grand plan was obviously for them to procreate.

The Bible is not some textbook, you don't need to contextualize it, everything started is a fact, it's exactly how it was started.

I never meant sex as you are insinuating.
Remember the BIble has been translated severally and some original text and meanings were erroneously misinterpreted.

A lot of lies have been told against God in the name of religion.

press9jatv:
“Adam and Eve ate nothing, they didn’t eat anything. Alcohol is not a sin, cigärette is not a sin” — Apostle Abel Damina.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi2LjVkM0no

We know his Types...Men Pleasers will not Win the Battle at all...We should be Wary of Modern Day Teachers Pls.

oroje1:
So if I'm to believe ur transliteration of the word fruit from the Hebrew and aramaic.why should I not believe in Bible translations that were translated from the original texts.?you see,as humans we feel we know so much and so we search less for the truth.and so we want to explain God the way it suits us...false Christianity has done much harm to the Bible and so it has made many to loose interest in seeking the truths there in....if God mentioned every fruit producing trees and then mentioned with them the tree of the knowledge of good and bad then that tree is literal,,the tree stands for God's right to rule,his right to decide for mankind what is good or bad..a right that Adam ( mankind) should have realized

Lol, you suffer from the word when a glass is filled with mud you can never add clean water to it. Reading comprehension is your first problem, your second problem is your rigid nature towards knowledge, your third problem is ignorance. If you can overcome all three of these things, you will grow. I have worked with people who do translation and done translation gigs. The Christian body in charge of translating ancient languages to English has never claimed accuracy in their translation. The 21st century English version of the Bible is not the same as the 18th century version of the Bible. Till date, they still seek experts decoding the true meaning of the bible. Even the modern Bible you read is just 40% of the total books written for Christianity. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. A man who asks questions is a fool for a minute, a man who never asks questions is a fool forever.

You don't know me, so I'll pardon your ignorance and wrong choice of words,,,you may know much about translations as u said,in my humility I'll say I know quite a little and I'm still learning.of the many translations I've checked,I think the new world translation 2013 edition pgs 1718 -1721 tell much about the principles of Bible translation.if u can lay ur hands on it,I think you'll like it,,For our day God has given us the bible as a guide,so find a translation that hits the mark.the bible is God's voice to us,what people think about it may not matter much if it's all about finding fault in it's pages.so honest hearted individuals the message is crystal clear.

agentarcher:
Lol, you suffer from the word when a glass is filled with mud you can never add clean water to it. Reading comprehension is your first problem, your second problem is your rigid nature towards knowledge, your third problem is ignorance. If you can overcome all three of these things, you will grow. I have worked with people who do translation and done translation gigs. The Christian body in charge of translating ancient languages to English has never claimed accuracy in their translation. The 21st century English version of the Bible is not the same as the 18th century version of the Bible. Till date, they still seek experts decoding the true meaning of the bible. Even the modern Bible you read is just 40% of the total books written for Christianity. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. A man who asks questions is a fool for a minute, a man who never asks questions is a fool forever.

fof1:
We know his Types...Men Pleasers will not Win the Battle at all...We should be Wary of Modern Day Teachers Pls.

yes soooo. They are so much in our churches today