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Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by MrIcredible: 1:01pm On Jan 03, 2025
Good

CFA should leave too


Create your own currency
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by wifeesnatcher(m):
Racoon:
It’s interesting to see more African nations pushing for the removal of French troops. It seems like a significant step towards greater autonomy and reshaping relationships with former colonial powers. Political watchers believe that France has been making efforts to revive its waning political and military influence in Africa.
African rules is no way different. They leave or not Africa leaders will still embezzle, military will still sabotage securities just to get fat allocations


Is of no different
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by sslcrypt: 1:04pm On Jan 03, 2025
Racoon:
All the West African and formerly French colonised nation are cutting ties with the imperialists but here a druggie grandpa is romancing his son as a political stooge.
This have been posted before, you reposted just to spite tinibu. I dislike tinibu but you are very foolish and have no argument.

You are bitter useless soul, let tinibu be so that you don't die of constant depression. Reflect on your worthless self because attacking tinibu at every slight opportunity won't give you any self worth.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by nairalanda1(m): 1:06pm On Jan 03, 2025
JimohMomoh:
Good move.

But running to China or Russia is another form of colonialism.
Russia & China already have military base in some African countries and are craving for more.

Why can't African Union (AU) stand on its own without begging for support.

China is now the new destination where African leaders keep their loot.
Because we refused to develop a millitary industrial complex...like the chinese, russians and many other countries.

South Korea was behind many African countries in 1960. Then they got to work and developed a strong industrial base. It took them years, but here they are. And they also developed a strong millitary industrial base.

Africa? Maybe South Africa during arphateid tried...but that was because of sanctions, and they still imported anyway. Nigeria has the rudiments, and maybe Egypt. But apart from that, we all prefer to import millitary hardware.

The reason is that developing an industrial society means years of hardship. Most of us are poor. If we got an equivalent of Park who modernised South Korea, many of us would throw him out in one year, because we no want hardship.

And by hardship...I don't mean t-pain hardship...I mean conc hardship.

As I have said here, at independence...African countries had two choices...industrial independence the hard way, or import all we need...and we chose imports. That's why we have a weak army so to speak....and why we are running to powerful nations to protect us all the time. Sigh.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2025
nairalanda1:
Outside Abidjan, most people live like Nigerians self. (except for prolly Yamasukoro). Yeah, they have good power supply, but that's because they throughly privatized power, and made every Ivorien pay for power like they were on their equivalent of band A.

Bad roads, poverty, etc.

Never judge a nation by its capital.

And in Abuja and Lagos there are whites, Asians and other foreigners who live and do business in a conducive atmosphere self.
You missed the point in my post. The point is, the after effect of the indigenisation degree had a very negative impact on Nigeria. Not just in terms of economy as per industrialization but education, health and so on. Schools being run by Missionaries were taken away, hospitals and so on and so forth which later on became mismanaged.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by AKWATGOLD1(m): 1:17pm On Jan 03, 2025
I pitied all these West African French speaking countries that there are toiling with disaster when it will befall them. CFA currency will be spilited into choice of each french country decided and their economies will be in shambles.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by nairalanda1(m): 1:19pm On Jan 03, 2025
Softmirror:
You missed the point in my post. The point is, the after effect of the indigenisation degree had a very negative impact on Nigeria. Not just in terms of economy as per industrialization but education, health and so on. Schools being run by Missionaries were taken away, hospitals and so on and so forth which later on became mismanaged.
Indigenisation or not, we were always going to be underdeveloped, because the basis of our economy was resource dependency, not exporting industrial products.

As for mission schools hospitals, etc, government took over too many schools and hospitals,and built too many more. The education budget has not been able to cope since then. Result..mess.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by damkin24(m): 1:27pm On Jan 03, 2025
Racoon:
All the West African and formerly French colonised nation are cutting ties with the imperialists but here a druggie grandpa is romancing his son as a political stooge.
Grade A wailing
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by TenQ: 1:49pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ringstonermasks:
If they are really serious, let their military do the needful and revoke the agreement. Instead of playing the chese game with them.

Since democracy is not favourable, let them go to Authoritarian Government, or Authoritarian Democracy that we practice here in Nigeria, but instead of civilian President, let their military take over and transit to Politics
But France is firmly in control
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 1:58pm On Jan 03, 2025
nairalanda1:
Indigenisation or not, we were always going to be underdeveloped, because the basis of our economy was resource dependency, not exporting industrial products.

As for mission schools hospitals, etc, government took over too many schools and hospitals,and built too many more. The education budget has not been able to cope since then. Result..mess.
Resource dependency or not the basis of our underdevelopment lies in mismanagement.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by skywalker240(m): 1:58pm On Jan 03, 2025
Xkale26557:
Kick them out
What the president of Niger republic said about France is very true

They provide weapons for Boko Haram
How on earth Boko Haram will be using NATO weapons shocked shocked shocked shocked[color=#990000][/color]
Very much true
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Orch1981: 1:59pm On Jan 03, 2025
Greenlandz:
Enough of all these unnecessary foreign powers interferences in our sovereign African country please! 🤒
But they are still far better than your Nigeria
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by descarado: 2:01pm On Jan 03, 2025
This man has been president since ages.

All the French colonies have life presidents and France don't have any problem with that.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by ganilas007: 2:16pm On Jan 03, 2025
But what are they doing in Africa.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by chipet67(m): 2:24pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ringstonermasks:
Don't allow sentiments to overwhelm your reasoning.

because people are saying the withdrawal of Colonial masters denote Progress in Africa, this can never be true. For a fact, most of the achievements and Structures we have today are those laid down by our colonial masters. They architectural transformation were vaped from the the foundation that was made by the masters.


The withdrawal of colonial master only favours few, mostly those in Politics and Military. If the Colonial master had stayed longer, we would have been far better than South Africa by now. That's a fact. South Africa is like Little London. I couldn't even tell the difference apart.


Some of u here would say i av a slave mentality(Stockholm Syndrome), but that's not true. The narratives that our colonial masters came to oppress us were propagated by those that wanted power for themselves.



All those shouting Colonial this and that, cut ties this and that, control this and that, they are all like my elder sister, she(flexible personality) would support something with passion cos people are supporting it and would tilt to the other side if the majority around her are standing there...


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Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by justmondris: 2:33pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ternistacle:
Once they leave, C'D will be prone to civil wars
Story story. What has their presence done ever since? . France kept fueling the unrest in those countries just to justify their stay.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by rickleye: 2:57pm On Jan 03, 2025
jkpbestseries:
Good decision
What good decision ? . Most of these troops are not combat troops but provide humanitarian aid to NGO. In any case they are free to do as they please.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by viodemus: 3:00pm On Jan 03, 2025
Igbos should not fall for these tricks. I love my fellow Africans, but let the igbos be wise. These people chasing out France, are mostly changing guards, not independent. They are changing from france to Russia, from France to China, from france to arabs like turkey, Saudi, and iran. For ivory coast, it is just not to piss Bukina Faso and mali off.


Am not saying france is too good or not guilty like some of them claim, but the igbos can reason with france.


igbos, whether we are for france or not, the enemy tribes have a wicked plan for us; so, do we just fold our arms, knowing that if given the chance, these enemies will delete us. Those islamics up north from the great region have their plans, and the neighbors to the west have their association plans, so why then should we let them chart our course.


Currently, the igbos are too aloof, and borderline hopeless. We make it look like Ekpa and MNK are our only problem in life. Whereby, we can do more for ourselves in economics and strength. While we are aloofing and not organized, the others are over strengthening against us. Remember, they don't have any other enemies but us.


While we are aloofing and nzuzu-ing everyday, our cousins in cross Rivers are busy bonding with our people and some of their people in Cameroon. Remember how those genocide tribes in Nigeria almost made us loose blood in Rivers, Delta, Benue, and kogi. But we, we are only facing one side. We are not all dimension thinking. it is when everybody surprise us again like before, that our eyes will clear.


We have to strengthen and put massive fear in their hearts. We have to be innovative, creative, and just extremely wise. The igbos need massive weapons for a time against all enemies. And the igbos need to forget about african unity, because some africans hate themselves and are seeing the arabs as gods. To be plain, I don't consider the up north people as Africans. They are dedicated arab slaves. They don't care for Africa.
We should only reason with who want to reason with us.


If we strengthen, they will use their hand to release mnk, just to show good deed. They will use their brain to have good relationships with us. Igbos, this is the year of decision. All our noises will not count, if we don't count. The enemies will not spare the igbos, who are majority Christians, judah, and African religion. So help us God.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by abobote: 3:01pm On Jan 03, 2025
I need to know more about this.
Ivory Coast is having a presidential election this year, and the two actors that led them to Civil War are contesting against each other, and they are asking French troops to leave
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by OneOnland: 3:14pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ringstonermasks:
Don't allow sentiments to overwhelm your reasoning.

because people are saying the withdrawal of Colonial masters denote Progress in Africa, this can never be true. For a fact, most of the achievements and Structures we have today are those laid down by our colonial masters. They architectural transformation were vaped from the the foundation that was made by the masters.


The withdrawal of colonial master only favours few, mostly those in Politics and Military. If the Colonial master had stayed longer, we would have been far better than South Africa by now. That's a fact. South Africa is like Little London. I couldn't even tell the difference apart.


Some of u here would say i av a slave mentality(Stockholm Syndrome), but that's not true. The narratives that our colonial masters came to oppress us were propagated by those that wanted power for themselves.



All those shouting Colonial this and that, cut ties this and that, control this and that, they are all like my elder sister, she(flexible personality) would support something with passion cos people are supporting it and would tilt to the other side if the majority around her are standing there...


Anyways, we are ur sure plugs for website creation and app. Turn ur site to app too
So it is building architecture that is your problem? Benin had the great wall of Benin and they built it themselves, and was highly functional to them. None of the West's walls come close.

History says that Igomigodo (now Benin) had issues sometime, and what they did, they invited Oranmiyan. Note, invited. That is what occurs when a people see someone else as better, more advanced, they are invited. The West were never invited, were not asked to come, but they imposed themselves, imposing foreign rules, foreign ideas, and exploiting, plundering and intentionally creating political turmoils.

You're not only suffering from stockholm syndrome, you're also suffering from lack-of-know-ownself syndrome.

Colonialism is bad in all guises, terrible in all guises, besides that the Western colonialism was for resources exploitation, it meant the imposition of foreign ideologies that conflict existing philosophies (a debar of continuous growth for the colonized).


And regarding architectures, let me school you a little. The Brits built roads indeed for vehicles to ply from Lokoja to Lagos, for transportation of exploited minerals that Lokoja people were used as slaves to farm and to mine out, only that route.
South Africa isn't entirely developed architecturally, see Soweto and the rest, but asides the route for transportations, where they wanted to settle at, the Dutch settlers (South Africa's weather was so soo warm, they didn't only come to plunder, take slaves but also chased away the original owners of the land, and were bringing their children, their big families to settle forever in the South Africa.) Wanted to do to South Africa what they did to Australia. In Australia, where and how many are the aboriginals left? SA was just lucky to have been in Africa and had larger publicity in comparison to like Australia.

So Mr Ringer, know thyself and cure thyself. Foreign rules and the worst of it by the West is all shades of utter evil with completely zero silver lining unless the affected only choose to overlook them.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Inosky: 3:39pm On Jan 03, 2025
End to neocolonialism in Africa so that Africans can take their own destiny in their own hands
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by nwirinedu(m): 3:58pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ternistacle:
Once they leave, C'D will be prone to civil wars
Who do you think orchestrates these wars? The same people who send their armies and humanitarian relief personnel.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Obialom58: 5:31pm On Jan 03, 2025
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Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by stanluiz(m): 6:00pm On Jan 03, 2025
Softmirror:
Theirs is better. Go and do a case study on Nigeria's indigenisation decree of the 70s that is when you will understand when our economy started summersaulting.

Abijan, in ivory Coast is another city in Africa where you find a lot of foreigners 'whites' living and doing business in a very conducive atmosphere. A very beautiful city.
Gowon and Awolowo indigenisation policy killed Nigeria.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 6:25pm On Jan 03, 2025
stanluiz:
Gowon and Awolowo indigenisation policy killed Nigeria.
How with respect to Awolowo? I like to know.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by codemaniacs:
Softmirror:
Resource dependency or not the basis of our underdevelopment lies in mismanagement.
nairalanda1:
Indigenisation or not, we were always going to be underdeveloped, because the basis of our economy was resource dependency, not exporting industrial products.

As for mission schools hospitals, etc, government took over too many schools and hospitals,and built too many more. The education budget has not been able to cope since then. Result..mess.
the major cause of Nigeria's poverty and under-development is the Western institutions that don't want to see any black nation prosper..

It is western influence that made t:inuboooo to devalue the naira which spoilt the purchasing power of every Nigerian.

you guys don't understand their hatred for black people globally especially those in Africa..

india annual budget is ₹48 trillion which is equal to $560 billion ( with a population over 1.4billion people

while Nigeria annual budget is ₦49 trillion which is equal to $30 billion ( with a population of 200million people )..

my point is Western powers claim Nigeria's population is the reason for ₦ Naira's bad currency conversion to the dollar..

but India with a population 7 seven times Nigeria's own is not affected by the same bad currency conversion to the dollar..

if you reduce india annual budget to ₹28 trillion similar to Nigeria ₦28 trillion..

india's ₹28 trillion is still equal to $326 billion...

the Naira is a weapon fashioned against Nigeria and Nigerians by the Western powers.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 7:27pm On Jan 03, 2025
codemaniacs:
the major cause of Nigeria's poverty and under-development is the Western institutions that don't want to see any black nation prosper..

It is western influence that made t:inuboooo to devalue the naira which spoilt the purchasing power of every Nigerian.

you guys don't understand their hatred for black people globally especially those in Africa..

india annual budget is ₹48 trillion which is equal to $560 billion ( with a population over 1.4billion people

while Nigeria annual budget is ₦28 trillion which is equal to $36 billion ( with a population of 200million people )..

my point is Western powers claim Nigeria's population is the reason for ₦ Naira's bad currency conversion to the dollar..

but India with a population 7 seven times Nigeria's own is not affected by the same bad currency conversion to the dollar..

if you reduce india annual budget to ₹28 trillion similar to Nigeria ₦28 trillion..

india's ₹28 trillion is still equal to $326 billion...

the Naira is a weapon fashioned against Nigeria and Nigerians by the Western powers.
You may have a point but that doesn't disprove the kind of mismanagement of resources over many decades in this country by privileged individuals.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by codemaniacs: 7:41pm On Jan 03, 2025
Softmirror:
You may have a point but that doesn't disprove the kind of mismanagement of resources over many decades in this country by privileged individuals.
After the abolishment of regionalism, the resources meant for about only 6 ethnic nations had to be shared between 200 ethnic nations... so the sharing of the money from 1966 till date is the cause of things been mis-managed and the fact that most of the leaders work for whyte supremacysts who don't want to black people prosper..
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 7:44pm On Jan 03, 2025
codemaniacs:
After the abolishment of regionalism, the resources meant for about only 6 ethnic nations had to be shared between 200 ethnic nations... so the sharing of the money from 1966 till date is the cause of things been mis-managed and the fact that most of the leaders work for whyte supremacysts who don't want to black people prosper..
Can you put more light to the bolded. Thank you.
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by codemaniacs: 7:54pm On Jan 03, 2025
Softmirror:
Can you put more light to the bolded. Thank you.
it was less than 6 ethnic nations before 1966..

After 1966 until crude oil was well established.. it was main wealth from Western Region and Calabar/Akwa-ibom that was shared to over 200 ethnic nations so both the Western Region and Calabar/Akwa-ibom could not use their wealth to spread developments across their regions .

As at when cru:de oil was found in other places... crude oil in Bayelsa, Delta, Rivers, Akwa-ibom, Edo, Ondo is shared to every state in Nigeria..

so money meant to develop one state is been used to develop 36 states...
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by codemaniacs: 7:55pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ringstonermasks:
Don't allow sentiments to overwhelm your reasoning.

because people are saying the withdrawal of Colonial masters denote Progress in Africa, this can never be true. For a fact, most of the achievements and Structures we have today are those laid down by our colonial masters. They architectural transformation were vaped from the the foundation that was made by the masters.


The withdrawal of colonial master only favours few, mostly those in Politics and Military. If the Colonial master had stayed longer, we would have been far better than South Africa by now. That's a fact. South Africa is like Little London. I couldn't even tell the difference apart.


Some of u here would say i av a slave mentality(Stockholm Syndrome), but that's not true. The narratives that our colonial masters came to oppress us were propagated by those that wanted power for themselves.



All those shouting Colonial this and that, cut ties this and that, control this and that, they are all like my elder sister, she(flexible personality) would support something with passion cos people are supporting it and would tilt to the other side if the majority around her are standing there...


Anyways, we are ur sure plugs for website creation and app. Turn ur site to app too
When the Brit:ish left Nigeria there was no university in Nigeria.

before the br:itish left Nigeria, the Br:itish did not build one university, our number of primary and secondary schools were very low, br:itish did not build smooth roads all over Nigeria , no housing estates, no plans for clean water for communities, majority of the private companies where owned by the br:itish and they only gave Nigerians clerical work which is what the education system they gave us is meant to produce office assistants.

All the developments you see in Nigeria today from Abuja to lagos to calabar to Akwa-ibom to oyo to Enugu e.t.c are all built by Nigerians, our parents, our grand parents e.t.c the br:itish left Nigeria to rot.

Everything you had and have the privilege of enjoying in Nigeria was and is through the hardwork of your parents, grand parents, and other Nigerians.

england did not build primary schools, secondary schools, universities, health centers, hospitals, stadiums, technical institutes, vocation centers, maternity hospitals, pediatric hospitals, sports centers, housing estates, roads e.t.c. all over Nigeria between 1830 and 1960 and after..

they took the billions they made from Nigeria and other places they colonized and used it to build england they did not use it to build Nigeria and the other places they colonized.

if England had remained in Nigeria, Nigerians would have been extremely poor and much poorer than they are now...
Re: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by Softmirror: 7:58pm On Jan 03, 2025
codemaniacs:
it was less than 6 ethnic nations before 1966..

After 1966 until crude oil was well established.. it was main wealth from Western Region and Calabar/Akwa-ibom that was shared to over 200 ethnic nations so both the Western Region and Calabar/Akwa-ibom could not use their wealth to spread developments across their regions .

As at when cru:de oil was found in other places... crude oil in Bayelsa, Delta, Rivers, Akwa-ibom, Edo, Ondo is shared to every state in Nigeria..

so money meant to develop one state is been used to develop 36 states...
I get your point which still resolves around mismanagement. A good manager won't let go of their means which was Agriculture just because they discovered crude oil.
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