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Kobojunkie:
Which systems? The passage says Sons of God — humans — and we know from Genesis 4 mention of God giving a child and from other scriptural references that they are humans. So where do you get the notion that they are instead aliens(non-humans) aka angels?

How are heavenly beings humans? please explain.

mysticwarrior:
➜ How are heavenly beings humans? please explain.

First, if you examine the original Hebrew below, you will find that the assertion "heavenly bodies" comes, not from the script itself but from insertion by your religious beings whose only desire is to insert their ideas into what is written in Scripture, completely disregarding the author's truth. Second, regarding the Heaven of the God of Israel, Jesus Christ of Israel claimed in Scripture that He alone had come down from His Father's Heaven. Additionally, Jesus Christ of Israel through His Gospel proclaimed that those who would become children of God in His Kingdom were those — humans — who went on to be approved righteous by His Father, the God of Israel. This all indicates that the idea that the reference Sons of God was a reference to aliens/non-humans does not hold to Scripture.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are perfectly right. Wow, I am blown away by your perfect answer. I did not expect this. I humbly apologize for my offensive outburst. Please forgive me. I would try to speak rightly next time

Fool like no other, arguing blindly over nothing you know about....

Kobojunkie:
According to Scripture, they are humans. Do you have any scripture that declares otherwise?

The interpretation that the "sons of God" are fallen angels has its origins in religion — Judaism, Christianity, etc, and not Scripture which does not consider sons of God angels(alien beings) but humans. Even Jesus Christ of Israel who was called a Son of God came in human form, and not as an angel or alien. Jesus Christ of Israel equally made known that He came to recruit others to become children of God i.e. Sons of God of Israel. Basically, those who are to become "angels" in Jesus Christ of Israel are human beings.

Unfortunately, the verses I posted do not require further interpretations since it's obvious to anyone who is not bent on deceiving themselves with meaningless interpretation and roundabout trips.

Kobojunkie:
First, if you examine the original Hebrew below, you will find that the assertion "heavenly bodies" comes, not from the script itself but from insertion by your religious beings whose only desire is to insert their ideas into what is written in Scripture, completely disregarding the author's truth. Second, regarding the Heaven of the God of Israel, Jesus Christ of Israel claimed in Scripture that He alone had come down from His Father's Heaven. Additionally, Jesus Christ of Israel through His Gospel proclaimed that those who would become children of God in His Kingdom were those — humans — who went on to be approved righteous by His Father, the God of Israel. This all indicates that the idea that the reference Sons of God was a reference to aliens/non-humans does not hold to Scripture.

All scriptures weren't written in plain words and its not everyone that has the gift of deep thoughts to solve such riddles which makes it necessary for a few to teach others by inserting meaning to simplify idioms used by the inspired writers:
"And they continued reading aloud from the book, from the Law of the true God, clearly explaining it and putting meaning into it; so they helped the people to understand what was being read" Nehemiah 8:8
If everyone could read and understand inspired writings Jesus won't order his disciples to go out TEACHING others what he commanded {Matthew 28:20} they only need to TELL not TEACH.
Regarding what Jesus said about coming from heaven he was referring to true info about heaven which fallen angels will never disclose to anyone.
And of course no human has been there before so no one could tell us how heaven looks like except Jesus who was sent from there to explain to us. John 8:23

Uptownerd:
➜Unfortunately, the verses I posted do not require further interpretations since it's obvious to anyone who is not bent on deceiving themselves with meaningless interpretation and roundabout trips.

The verse you quoted literally says "Sons of God" and the only interpretation by way of Scripture for that is "Sons of God".

The only way to cause the term "Sons of God" to mean non-humans aka aliens aka fallen angels in this case is to literally bend the meaning to suit your particular opinion/religious interpretation. So what are you fuming in the mouth for?

Kobojunkie:
The verse you quoted literally says "Sons of God" and the only interpretation by way of Scripture for that is "Sons of God".

The only way to cause the term "Sons of God" to mean non-humans aka aliens aka fallen angels in this case is to literally bend the meaning to suit your particular opinion/religious interpretation. So what are you fuming in the mouth for?

Explain this:

Job 1:6 and Job 2:1:
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them."

Uptownerd:
➜Explain this:
Job 1:6 and Job 2:1:
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them."

What aspect of what is written do you need me to explain regarding what is simply stated there?

In case, you cling to the religious lie which has been that the sons of God in that passage came before God in His Heaven where the passage instead says they came to present themselves before the Lord, then you may want to investigate other instances were people were recorded in the book to have presented themselves before the same God.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h3320/kjv/wlc/0-1/

Kobojunkie:
What aspect of what is written do you need me to explain regarding what is simply stated there?

In case, you cling to the religious lie which has been that the sons of God in that passage came before God in His Heaven where the passage instead says they came to present themselves before the Lord, then you may want to investigate other instances were people were recorded in the book to have presented themselves before the same God.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h3320/kjv/wlc/0-1/

You have an interpretation problem.
Those are the only two places in the so called old testament where "Sons of God" were specifically used. And in those instances, they didn't mean "humans".

So, you no get talk abeg.

Uptownerd:
➜You have an interpretation problem.
➜Those are the only two places in the so called old testament where "Sons of God" were specifically used. And in those instances, they didn't mean "humans". So, you no get talk abeg.

1. The one with the interpretation problem here is your person, not me! I have simply restricted myself to comprehending what is written AS-IS. While you, and other religious folks out there have instead taken to injecting your own private delusions and ideas into what is written, essentially ignoring the will of the author of the various texts.

2. None of those two places indicate that the term "Sons of God" refers to non-humans/aliens/fallen angels/entities without human forms though. So, where exactly does this notion that Sons of God are not humans come from? 🤔

By the way, Adam was a Son of God according to Luke 3. He was a man who was made in the very image of God --- not that of another man or woman.