₦airaland Forum

Ojuntana:
But the Qur'an allows flogging of women. How's that not routine in islam
Besides, the flogging is based on the sharia law
Are you saying Shari'a is a sick and evil law

nyabinghi:
even joseph bleeped mary the mother of jesus their gay god to stupor,she was 7 years old then

nyabinghi:
joseph bleeped virgin mary when she was four,even holy ghost raped mary

aswani:
Again, refer us to the relevant Surah.

Also remember that slavery, female degradation etc are also in the bible.

That these things were written in different times doesn't mean they should be followed in modern more enlightened ones

The people that misinterpret these things are the sick ones and there are plenty of them.

Lest I forget, font forget to give us the information about the regular occurrences, as you inferred, of women being flogged 100 times in Islam.

Ojuntana:
The 65th chapter of the Qur'an permits child marriage

The 4th chapter approves beating women

The 23rd chapter approves sex slaves

Christians are not bound to follow old testament ways. That's why it's called old

aswani:
If its routine, show us proof please.

aswani:
Who told you Christians are not bound to follow the old testament? Where and when was this proclaimed?

"That is why it is called Old", where are you pulling this stuff out from?

I just had a skim read of Surah 4, nothing about beating women. Can you just specify the text please?

Also, is the beating related to the flogging 100 times or is that different?

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand

Ojuntana:
There are numerous proofs

Just check the net

A lot of Islamic countries practice flogging for both male and female even Saudi

aswani:
Show us a few of the numerous proofs about Females bring flogged 100 times as you asserted.

I know Saudi practice public flogging on men that have repeatedly stolen before as part of their sentence.

Ojuntana:
Christians are not bound to follow Old Testament
Paul's teachings which form part of the new Testament shows us that Jesus came to save us from the law of sin and death which is the old testament

Surah 4:34

Ojuntana:
What is the difference between 74 and 100?

Saudi flogs women too
You want proof?

aswani:
A huge difference, you are clearly plucking figures and words out from nowhere.

You confidently claimed women were flogged 100 times, now you only have one proof of a woman being flogged 74 times.

I don't care to see proof of Saudi flogging women, you can keep that to yourself.

You need to slow down with all this stuff you heard from people that you pass on. I only challenged you as two posters were already believing your lies and knowing us as Nigerians, would have also passed it on.

amaridigital:
I don't agree with the Islamic pedophiles but if you claim these criminals are doing this because of religious influence then what has been your reactions to those who kidnapped minors, raped them repeatedly in a baby factory, get them pregnant by force then sell off the newly born kids to the highest bidder?. Can you count the numbers of crimes committed in each of the baby factories in Nigeria? Remove the log of wood in your eyes first because nearby all the perpetrators of rape, abductions, abuse, force pregnancy and stealing of babies in baby factories aren't Muslim. I'm a traditionalist so I don't cherish you both. Wether you are Christian or Muslim. Brainwashed morons!!

aswani:
So Surah 4:34 where it talks about striking women is your evidence of flogging 100 times àbi?

What a shame.

By the way, I don't agree with the striking of women, I am not a Muslim and I believe it runs contrary to laws of most countries.

I guess also if Christians are not bound to follow the old testament, Muslims too are not bound to follow Surah 4:34.

I don't understand what you mean when you say that Jesus came to save us from the law of sin and death which is the old testament Jesus saving us from the law of "sin and death". Don't bother explaining though as I know it is a nonsense anyway.

Ojuntana:
Lies when I gave you proofs?

I take back the 100. It's actually 200!! See screenshot below. Here's link to more:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/scarred-by-the-savage-lash-of-islamic-justice-1577324.html

You're free to insist on proof of 100 though

aswani:
I am going to compliment you on the fact that you are respectful and polite.

The point I was trying to make in engaging you is that you were being authoritative in stuff you were saying about Islam which is very dangerous.

Are there wicked Islamic regimes, Yes. Can ancient religions exist in modern times, Yes.

Anyway, my time in spent and I wish you a blessed day ahead.

Ojuntana:
What is dangerous in being authoritative about the truth when there's clear proof?

What you call wickedness is how the Prophet of Islam intended it to be

The Prophet himself had a pregnant woman who came to confess her sin to him stoned to death after she weaned the child.

By your estimation, is that wicked or merciful?

aswani:
Nothing personal but I have kinda moved on from this. Maybe someone else can answer sha.

If you were an Obidient like that Believeintruth character, I would patronise you by congratulating you for winning the argument. But you deserve better so I won't.

OLAADEGBU:
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My British grandmother, Cora Amelia Robinson, was an important part of my childhood. She was very strict, but also kind and I could always count on her.

She grew up very poor in England during the Great Depression only to be bombed in WW2. To earn money for food, she cleaned houses, leaving me with a lasting respect for those who do so.

My Nana was one of the poor working-class girls with no one to protect her who might have been abducted in present day Britain.

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Gerrard59:
So because white people - owners of the land - do it, immigrants should do it as well? E don become something to emulate?

BTW, the biggest perpetrators of child molestation are white men and they are always paraded by the police. The question is: why are the authorities lenient on this specific issue?

smokinloud:
Which tag?. Everybody knows that majority of us Nigerians are scammers. From Yahoo , to trade, to politics etc...

smokinloud:
The fact is that, the whites rape case are well documented but muslim immigrants' rape case are not well documented. Look at the chart below. The documented cases are mostly white cases while the undocumented and discoveries of investigative journalists are muslim cases.
Officially, they're documenting White cases but they're not documenting the cases of Pakistan's ethnicity because they don't want to offend muslims.
Pakistanis are responsible for 80% of gang rape case in the UK but the government don't want citizens to have this knowledge, that's why Kemi is mad.


You're ignorant.

Ojuntana:
It is usually hard to judge these kind of cases with religion as the base

Their prophet married a 6 year old girl and raped her at 9

He kept sex slaves and encouraged his followers to do same

They are simply following the dictates of their religion

In a society that upholds freedom of religion, how do you prosecute a man for following the examples of his prophet?
Isn't that religious persecution?

OLAADEGBU:
* Kemi Badenoch is not Nigerian-born rather she is English born of Yoruba origin.

OLAADEGBU:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Zr8ABTju8

In Today's episode of 'Global Mirror', anchor Shreya Upadhyaya discusses a shocking revelation, that is said to be reported that several white girls in the UK have been systematically exploited by grooming gangs, with a significant number of the perpetrators of Pakistani heritage. . This issue has sparked public outcry, with many calling for an urgent inquiry.

A panel of experts has joined anchor to discuss more on this. David Sofair, David Atherton and Prof. Madhav Nalapat share thier views. Prof. Madhav Nalapat says, this is defaming an entire community, they search for vulnerable girls and they drug them, leading to gangrape, it's an utter disgrace.

Conservative party wasn't equally as bad, Pakistani grooming gangs are basically gangsters who are involved in extortion, nasty people who enforced their will in communities, says David Atherton.

Ojuntana:
It is usually hard to judge these kind of cases with religion as the base

Their prophet married a 6 year old girl and raped her at 9

He kept sex slaves and encouraged his followers to do same

They are simply following the dictates of their religion

In a society that upholds freedom of religion, how do you prosecute a man for following the examples of his prophet?
Isn't that religious persecution?

Namigotalktru:
You are even more ignorant. I quoted data from 2022/2023 you quoted from 2021.

You then went on to talk about “group rape” which is an even smaller incidence where the prevalent cases are singular and has been getting worse with nothing being done about it.

Do you want me to send your shackles so you can chain yourself properly to your master’s feet alongside your sister Kemi?

Ojuntana:
cc AntiChristian

Can you confirm or refute this?
It's shocking to read

aswani:
Please can you tell us the Surah?

By the way, similar anti female stuff is in the old testament bible.

Ovacoma:
Quran 4: 24 clearly gives Muslims right to rape their captives/slaves. Remember the girls or women might not be willing to sleep with these mad muslim men, which means rape. Nowhere old testament allows rape or have sex without marriage within the woman. Bring the chapter and verses to prove it.