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MaxInDHouse:
Well i have Good News for you that apart from North Korea there is no country where Jehovah's Witnesses haven't reached with the Good News of PEACE!

There is no JW in Sentinel Island. And I doubt there are JW in the Amazon.

Truthseeker10:
So the personhoods are not the same right? If yes, it clearly means that they are separate because when people saw Jesus, they were not seeing the Father. Do you agree?

I'll stay out of it (my knowledge is limited) and let Jesus Himself answer you:

John 14:9: “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”
In this passage, Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father, and Jesus responds that seeing him is the same as seeing the Father. Jesus also explains that he and the Father are one, and that the words he speaks come from the Father.

Truthseeker10:
I love your water analogy.

If water=God
Liquid=water.
Steam=water.
Block=water.

Let's say liquid = father, steam= Son, block= Holy spirit.

If I see Jesus(steam), can I say that I have not seen water(God) just because I did not see liquid(father)?

That is exactly what John 1:18 is saying. The verse says no man has seen God(water) at anytime not liquid(father). So how can that verse ever be correct when it says that no one has seen water(God) at anytime when people actually saw steam(Jesus) which is also water(God)?

The verse is obviously referring to the Father who is unseeable

LordReed:
WTH is "big bang of no origin"?

is there someone that caused the big bang?

LordReed:
You have New York, get a visa, buy a ticket go there, therefore Thor the god of thunder exists.

what the new apartment number for the avengers

GothamCities:
Why are you confusing yourself? What exactly are you hitting at using this scripture?

read the nonsense you wrote and claimed to gain understanding from and then read the translations and posted for you again and again.

Truthseeker10:
I love your water analogy.

If water=God
Liquid=water.
Steam=water.
Block=water.

Let's say liquid = father, steam= Son, block= Holy spirit.

If I see Jesus(steam), can I say that I have not seen water(God) just because I did not see liquid(father)?

That is exactly what John 1:18 is saying. The verse says no man has seen God(water) at anytime not liquid(father). So how can that verse ever be correct when it says that no one has seen water(God) at anytime when people actually saw steam(Jesus) which is also water(God)?

ah no this has to be banned 😲

I recall someone using this same water steam ice logic for me, like I didn't do science.

I doubt they agree which one is supposed to represent God whether it is steam or ice

but the point is when the state of water changes, it STOPS being water. This is basic common logic

Even in animation, comics and manga, sci-fi none of them mistake water attributes or abilities for ice.

It's because of people like this men think believing God will make them stupid

gohf:
is there someone that caused the big bang?

Nope, it didn't need someone to cause it.

gohf:
ah no this has to be banned 😲

I recall someone using this same water steam ice logic for me, like I didn't do science.

I doubt they agree which one is supposed to represent God whether it is steam or ice

but the point is when the state of water changes, it STOPS being water. This is basic common logic

Even in animation, comics and manga, sci-fi none of them mistake water attributes or abilities for ice.

It's because of people like this men think believing God will make them stupid

I am playing along with their logic

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is there is no sense in arguing without having anything to do with a team of evangelizers the word "CHRISTIANS" written in the Bible connotes an organized people who were unitedly doing what Jesus (Christ) commanded them {Matthew 28:19-20} no church on this planet has just two members zealously doing this except Jehovah's Witnesses.
Because the scriptures is not for each person to prove a point but for two or three to agree in doing the assignment Jesus gave his disciples that's what makes them his friends! Matthew 18:20

Look trying to propagate Jehovah's witness is not preaching the gospel.

You are not called to be witnesses of Jehovah, did you see Him to witness Him?

Even the Father witnesses that Jesus Christ is His Son, we are to be witnesses of Jesus after receiving the Holy Spirit not Jehovah's witnesses.

gohf:
ah no this has to be banned 😲

I recall someone using this same water steam ice logic for me, like I didn't do science.

I doubt they agree which one is supposed to represent God whether it is steam or ice

but the point is when the state of water changes, it STOPS being water. This is basic common logic

Even in animation, comics and manga, sci-fi none of them mistake water attributes or abilities for ice.

It's because of people like this men think believing God will make them stupid

OK, if Christ is not God, what is he?

DaddyCoool:
The verse is obviously referring to the Father who is unseeable

Ah....did the verse say that no one has seen the 'Father'(liquid) or it says no one has seen 'God'(water)?

LordReed:
There is no JW in Sentinel Island. And I doubt there are JW in the Amazon.

Check the screenshot below we have brothers preaching using boats to get there!

LordReed:
Nope, it didn't need someone to cause it.

so good you understand so answer the question "which of the two do you believe big bang of no origin or the flood"

DaddyCoool:
I'll stay out of it (my knowledge is limited) and let Jesus Himself answer you:

John 14:9: “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”
In this passage, Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father, and Jesus responds that seeing him is the same as seeing the Father. Jesus also explains that he and the Father are one, and that the words he speaks come from the Father.

So how can you now merge this John 14:9 with John 1:18 that says that no one has seen 'God' na? Explain oo.

gohf:
so good you understand so answer the question "which of the two do you believe big bang of no origin or the flood"

That "someone" didn't cause it doesn't make it of "no origin". Also I don't "believe" in the Big Bang, I don't need to since there is evidence for it.

gohf:
Look trying to propagate Jehovah's witness is not preaching the gospel. You are not called to be witnesses of Jehovah, did you see Him to witness Him? Even the Father witnesses that Jesus Christ is His Son, we are to be witnesses of Jesus after receiving the Holy Spirit not Jehovah's witnesses.

Well whatever name you call yourself just make sure you join a group of evangelizers to do the work Jesus assigned to his disciples.

I'm 100% sure you can't find such elsewhere except among Jehovah's Witnesses.

So call yourself whatever you want.

DaddyCoool:
OK, if Christ is not God, what is he?

which one is what is he? Is he an animal place or thing?

Who is he? Christ is Jesus our Lord, who came in the flesh, lived and died for those who believe and obey God that they will have eternal life and rose from the dead with his body and is at the right hand of God interceding for us and has sent his Holy Spirit to us, after teaching God's word to the apostles and followers for many year. He is the son of man prophecied in scripture and the son of God who is coming back after the antichrist has been revealed to establish the millennial kingdom before eternity begins.

MaxInDHouse:
Well whatever name you call yourself just make sure you join a group of evangelizers to do the work Jesus assigned to his disciples.

I'm 100% sure you can't find such elsewhere except among Jehovah's Witnesses.

So call yourself whatever you want.

hmmm I believe God children are everywhere and they hear His word and follow him

LordReed:
That "someone" didn't cause it doesn't make it of "no origin". Also I don't "believe" in the Big Bang, I don't need to since there is evidence for it.

so you dont believe in things that there's evidence for

So kindly do tell, what or who is the origin of the big bang

Truthseeker10:
Ah....did the verse say that no one has seen the 'Father'(liquid) or it says no one has seen 'God'(water)?

You are now playing. The Bible obviously uses the Father and God interchangeably. Jesus did it all the time

gohf:
so you dont believe in things that there's evidence for

So kindly do tell, what or who is the origin of the big bang

There is no evidence of a who being responsible for the Big Bang. As for what that is currently unknown.

GothamCities:
I didn't see any question that I've not answered. Your question was premises on the devil coming from everlasting which I already debunked.

God is the only person who has no beginning in the entire universe. So what are you questioning again?

you debunked your head, because it's your imagination you're responding to

This is what I wrote in passing among the words "So is the devil also god or he didn't come from ancient times?"


What does God having no beginning have to do with Jesus you claim is God because you only accept the interpretation of that verse has Jesus came from everlasting.

Wait you would have said God Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth came from everlasting, you will now explain to us what everlasting is that God came from.

God is from everlasting to everlasting, He is the beginning and the end.

DaddyCoool:
You are now playing. The Bible obviously uses the Father and God interchangeably. Jesus did it all the time

Ok....so are we allowed to say the 'God'(water) in John 1:18 also belongs to Jesus(steam) and the Holy Spirit(block) that no one has seen? Would that not be wrong since people actually saw Jesus(steam)?

Truthseeker10:
So how can you now merge this John 14:9 with John 1:18 that says that no one has seen 'God' na? Explain oo.

See my previous answer. The Father is unseeable except as a manifestation (the Son)

LordReed:
There is no evidence of a who being responsible for the Big Bang. As for what that is currently unknown.

so technically you believe in the unknown because you have no evidence for it

So why do you wasting your time and maybe others by asking for evidence when you clearly don't need it

SIRTee15:
This is a straw man argument.
The debate here is about validity of trinity.

If I show U from the ancient Jewish scriptures that the logos is a person and created the universe, would U accept it?

That's my question.

Yes....

DaddyCoool:
See my previous answer. The Father is unseeable except as a manifestation (the Son)

and yet Jesus said blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God

DaddyCoool:
See my previous answer. The Father is unseeable except as a manifestation (the Son)

Ahhh....so the father(liquid) manifested In Jesus(steam) and people saw him according to john 14:9 and John 1:18 says that no one has seen God(water) at anytime? Is that not a contradiction?

SIRTee15:
This is a straw man argument.
The debate here is about validity of trinity.

If I show U from the ancient Jewish scriptures that the logos is a person and created the universe, would U accept it?

That's my question.

now thing would be interesting
I am wondering where you will find the monkey you want to pull out of your straw hat and dazzle everyone

gohf:
hmmm I believe God children are everywhere and they hear His word and follow him

Jesus didn't believe that Instead he worked by sending his disciples to go and meet people at home {Matthew 10:11-13} and do what is called follow up, he commanded them to have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} that's why they connect themselves as one family everywhere they may be {John 17:22} so that when there is trouble in any place their beloved fellow believers comes to mind not just assuming you have fellow believers everywhere yet there is no assigned duty binding you with any believer close to you!

gohf:
which one is what is he? Is he an animal place or thing?

Who is he? Christ is Jesus our Lord, who came in the flesh, lived and died for those who believe and obey God that they will have eternal life and rose from the dead with his body and is at the right hand of God interceding for us and has sent his Holy Spirit to us, after teaching God's word to the apostles and followers for many year. He is the son of man prophecied in scripture and the son of God who is coming back after the antichrist has been revealed to establish the millennial kingdom before eternity begins.

Can't you see he can ONLY be God. God has no son or you'd be talking of wife, mother, etc (as in Roman gods). "Son of God" can only mean an extention of God (unlike, say, a prophet), a manifestation of God, God himself!