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GothamCities:
My sister, they're the manifestation of the same Person, God. You can't say God knows and Jesus does not know. They're not independent of each other. Just imagine it in the line of your spirit and soul and body.

have you ever communicated with your soul before?

DaddyCoool:
Can't you see he can ONLY be God. God has no son or you'd be talking of wife, mother, etc (as in Roman gods). "Son of God" can only mean an extention of God (unlike, say, a prophet), a manifestation of God, God himself!

so when God created and made the world and the animals, he needed a wife?

gohf:
so when God created and made the world and the animals, he needed a wife?

The funny thing about people who believe in trinity is that they can never be in agreement on the issue of trinity even within themselves. They always have different versions of explaining trinity that eventually contradicts itself.

Truthseeker10:
Ok....so are we allowed to say the 'God'(water) in John 1:18 also belongs to Jesus(steam) and the Holy Spirit(block) that no one has seen? Would that not be wrong since people actually saw Jesus(steam)?

I don't know why you've become obsessed with this water analogy which I used fleetingly
Simple: Humans can't see the Father except as a manifestation (the Son)

gohf:
and yet Jesus said blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God

See the Father AFTER they die

DaddyCoool:
I don't know why you've become obsessed with this water analogy which I used fleetingly
Simple: Humans can't see the Father except as a manifestation (the Son)

Don't be tired of your analogy oo...it has helped me understand this your trinity better.

Humans can't see the Father(liquid) except as a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime?

Truthseeker10:
Ahhh....so the father(liquid) manifested In Jesus(steam) and people saw him according to john 14:9 and John 1:18 says that no one has seen God(water) at anytime? Is that not a contradiction?

You're beginning to confuse yourself. Something that is very simple - you can't see the Father except as manifested in the Son

DaddyCoool:
You're beginning to confuse yourself. Something that is very simple - you can't see the Father except as manifested in the Son

Humans can't see the Father(liquid) except as a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime?

Let's see who is confused.

gohf:
so when God created and made the world and the animals, he needed a wife?

Now you beginning to get it. There was only God, and any "son" is also him

Truthseeker10:
Don't be tired of your analogy oo...it has helped me understand this your trinity better.

Humans can't see the Father(liquid) except as a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime?

You keep pretending like you don't know God and the Father are used interchangeably - "liquid" and "water" are used interchangeably

Truthseeker10:
Humans can't see the Father(liquid) except as a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime?

Let's see who is confused.

You'd stop being confused if you stop pretending like you don't know God and the Father are used interchangeably: "liquid" and "water" are used interchangeably

DaddyCoool:
You keep pretending like you don't know God and the Father are used interchangeably - "liquid" and "water" are used interchangeably

I never said water and liquid cannot be used interchangeably. Even steam and block can be used interchangeably with God(water) according to your explanation.

You said the Father(liquid) is a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime when John 14:9 says otherwise?

DaddyCoool:
You'd stop being confused if you stop pretending like you don't know God and the Father are used interchangeably: "liquid" and "water" are used interchangeably

I never said water and liquid cannot be used interchangeably. Even steam and block can be used interchangeably with God(water) according to your explanation.

You said the Father(liquid) is a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime when John 14:9 says otherwise?

Truthseeker10:
I never said water and liquid cannot be used interchangeably. Even steam and block can be used interchangeably with God according to your explanation.

You said the Father(liquid) is a manifestation of the Son(steam). You quoted John 14:9 to show that the father(liquid) manifested In the Son(steam) so how can John 1:18 be correct to say that no man has seen God(water) or Father(liquid) at anytime?

Geez! Why you choose to complicate something so simple:
As a living human, you can’t see the Father EXCEPT as a manifestation of the Son. We pure in heart will see the Father directly AFTER death!

DaddyCoool:
Geez! Why you choose to complicate something so simple:
As a living human, you can’t see the Father EXCEPT as a manifestation of the Son. We pure in heart will see the Father directly AFTER death!

Ahh....so Jesus was talking to dead people in John 14:9? Na wa oo🤣🤣🤣🤣

Truthseeker10:
Ahh....so Jesus was talking to dead people in John 14:9? Na wa oo🤣🤣🤣🤣

Stop playing. They were not seeing the Father directly.
You and the other guy lost the argument. And deservedly so because I am saying the TRUTH - with no agenda or alliance with anybody

DaddyCoool:
Geez! Why you choose to complicate something so simple:
As a living human, you can’t see the Father EXCEPT as a manifestation of the Son. We pure in heart will see the Father directly AFTER death!

So if living people could not see the Father(liquid) directly according to your explanation, did Living people see Jesus(steam)? If yes, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) himself is the same as God(water)?

DaddyCoool:
Stop playing. They were not seeing the Father directly.
You and the other guy lost the argument. And deservedly so because I am saying the TRUTH - with no agenda or alliance with anybody

So if living people could not see the Father(liquid) directly according to your explanation, did Living people see Jesus(steam)? If yes, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) himself is the same as God(water)?

gohf:
now thing would be interesting
I am wondering where you will find the monkey you want to pull out of your straw hat and dazzle everyone

If I bring the evidence from ancient Jewish scripture, would U accept it?.

I don't want U wasting my time if U already decided to be blind to the truth.

I only want to engage in people seeking the truth.

Truthseeker10:
So if living people could not see the Father(liquid) directly according to your explanation, did Living people see Jesus(steam)? If yes, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) himself is the same as God(water)?

You've already been told the answer. Stop playing.
No living person can see the Father directly. Jesus is NOT the Father but a manifestation

Truthseeker10:
So if living people could not see the Father(liquid) directly according to your explanation, did Living people see Jesus(steam)? If yes, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) himself is the same as God(water)?

Jesus is NOT the Father. That ought settle that

DaddyCoool:
You've already been told the answer. Stop playing.
No living person can see the Father directly. Jesus is NOT the Father but a manifestation

Ok oo...but did people see God(water) when Jesus(steam) was on earth? If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

DaddyCoool:
Jesus is NOT the Father. That ought settle that

Ok.

Is Jesus(steam) the same as God(water)?
If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

DaddyCoool:
Now you beginning to get it. There was only God, and any "son" is also him

You know I added you need to ask God for wisdom but I removed it, but honestly and seriously you need it

Truthseeker10:
Ok.

Is Jesus(steam) the same as God(water)?
If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

Truthseeker10:
Ok oo...but did people see God(water) when Jesus(steam) was on earth? If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

Anybody reading this can now see you're going around in circles..
Simple:
There's only ONE invisible God (Father) manifestable as a visible Son. Directly visible to us only after death

gohf:
You know I added you need to ask God for wisdom but I removed it, but honestly and seriously you need it

I'm sure now you get it. Just trying to save face.
Case closed

DaddyCoool:
Anybody reading this can now see you're going around in circles..
Simple:
There's only ONE invisible God (Father) manifestable as a visible Son. Directly visible to us only after death

Ah....so the visible Jesus(steam) that came to earth that people saw is not God(water)?

If the Father(liquid) was the one that manifested as a Visible Son(steam) on earth, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) is the same as God(water)?

Truthseeker10:
Ah....so the visible Jesus(steam) that came to earth that people saw is not God(water)?

If the Father(liquid) was the one that manifested as a Visible Son(steam) on earth, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime?

Quit already. You're now sounding retarded (with all respect).
You can only see the Father directly after death. Before that you can only see him in Christ

DaddyCoool:
Quit already. You're now sounding retarded (with all respect).
You can only see the Father directly after death. Before that you can only see him in Christ

You are the one disturbing yourself by talking about the Father(liquid).

Is Jesus(steam) the same as God(water)?
If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

Explain John 1:18 oo with your water analogy.

If there is Only one invisible God(father(liquid))... Is the Holy spirit(block) visible since he is The same as God(water)?

gohf:
so technically you believe in the unknown because you have no evidence for it

So why do you wasting your time and maybe others by asking for evidence when you clearly don't need it

What part of "I don't believe" is giving you trouble understanding?

Asking for evidence of what did I ask?

Truthseeker10:
You are the one disturbing yourself by talking about the Father(liquid).

Is Jesus(steam) the same as God(water)?
If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?

Explain John 1:18 oo with your water analogy.

If there is Only one invisible God(father(liquid))... Is the Holy spirit(block) visible since he is The same as God(water)?

OK, for the last time, patiently and honestly:

The Father CANNOT be seen DIRECTLY while alive.
BUT he can be seen INDIRECTLY in Jesus while alive.
See how simple that is?

DaddyCoool:
OK, for the last time, patiently and honestly:

The Father CANNOT be seen DIRECTLY while alive.
BUT he can be seen INDIRECTLY in Jesus while alive.
See how simple that is?

Let's leave the father(liquid) visibility issue aside.

I am concerned about John 1:18 with your water analogy.

Is Jesus(steam) the same as God(water)?
If yes, How can John 1:18 be correct to say that no one has seen God(water) at anytime when Jesus(steam) was actually the same as God(water)?


You said that there is Only one invisible God(father(liquid))... Is the Holy spirit(block) visible since he is The same as God(water)?