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Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

Seun....

The world dont need to really edit/update directly(though some scriptures have been directly removed in most e-Bibles). We have altered it already and we will keep altering/editing/updating the Holy Books. Even the Bible said so, particularly at these end of days.

We all have adjusted doctrines, modified and twisted the word of God to suite our perception and not God's rules.

God help us All, including You and myself.

Happy New Year.

Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

Why not? Because holy books are seen as divinely inspired, not human creations to be "improved" like software updates. Altering them could be interpreted as presuming to know better than God, which, for believers, is blasphemous territory.

And yes, some stories or verses were added later or translated in ways that introduced nuance. But even those "additions" have been sanctified by centuries of use. They aren't just words on a page; they’re woven into the fabric of faith communities. Changing them now could tear apart traditions that have been built on those foundations.

Besides, who gets to decide what stays and what goes? What’s offensive or outdated to one group might be sacred truth to another. It’s not just about editing; it’s about authority. The act of deciding which parts are "no longer relevant" could spark endless schisms.

And here's the kicker: the value of these texts often lies in wrestling with their complexities. Struggling with the hard verses, questioning them, and interpreting them in modern contexts—that's where faith grows. Sanitizing the scriptures might make them easier to swallow, but it risks losing the richness of interpretation and the challenge that drives spiritual growth.

So maybe the answer isn’t editing the text itself, but rather how we teach and interpret it.

omotolsy:
➜... The world dont need to really edit/update directly(though some scriptures have been directly removed in most e-Bibles).
➜We have altered it already and we will keep altering/editing/updating the Holy Books. Even the Bible said so, particularly at these end of days.
➜We all have adjusted doctrines, modified and twisted the word of God to suite our perception and not God's rules. God help us All, including You and myself. Happy New Year.

1. What scriptures have been directly removed from your e-bibles?

2. Are you referring to the over 45,000 doctrines/denominations of the religion of Christianity, all of which are completely removed from the declarations contained in the book that is confirmed authored by men of Israelite descent?

3. You mean the God of Israel(and His Son Jesus Christ) who swore by His name that His one and only people are those who have the blood of Jacob in their veins?

It wouldn't be the first time the holy books have been improved and bad bits edited out.

The problem today is far too many people will notice, since they these days have the books in their languages which they can read themselves instead of in languages they are told are spoken only in heaven, and any changes will make the word of the gods impermanent, which will reduce the esteem placed in them. So, instead, we improve our understanding.

Some are, for instance, slowly beginning to realise that Adam was not created in God's image, and was an ignorant slave in the garden of Eden until Eve freed him.

Such people are now refusing to accept that they themselves were created from mud, since the God in who's image they now assume they were created was not created from mud.

The New Testament was published in Britain on May 17, 1881, and three days later in the United States, after 11 years of labour. Over 30,000 changes were made, of which more than 5,000 represent differences between the Greek text used for the Revised Version and that used as the basis of the King James Version. Most of the other changes were made in the interest of consistency or modernization.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/biblical-literature/The-King-James-and-subsequent-versions

Becomes a question of the infallibility of god's word.

having the holy books edited will amount to implicitly agreeing that those books are not the direct word of god which is what most religions preach

This is a catch 22 situation.

Contrary to what most modern Christians know and would rather believe, the Bible has over time been subjected to changes in both the letters and their interpretations to meet changing realities.

Islam prides itself for remaining unchanged, the Quran has largely remained unchanged and you can quite tell the difference in both religions.

mariovito:
➜Becomes a question of the infallibility of god's word.
➜having the Bible edited will amount to implicitly agreeing that the holy books are not the direct word of god which is what most religions preach

How so?

2. What holy books? Which of the many different translations do you refer to as holy?

If it has and can be improved, why do you still call it holy? The Bible is just history that has been scripted and manipulated to suit human narratives.

As humans evolve, what is and isn't acceptable changes. The bible is edited to align with these changes.

WhiteIverson:
If it has and can be improved, why do you still call it holy? The Bible is just history that has been scripted and manipulated to suit human narratives.

Suit human narratives? But every book in the collection was written by human hands and meant for human consumption.

Kobojunkie:
Suit human narratives? But every book in the collection was written by human hands and meant for human consumption.

Who inspired humans to write the bible?

WhiteIverson:
➜Who inspired humans to write the bible?

Who inspires humans to write any book out there?

Seun, it has been updated on several occasions and the book was written by men like you and I. Nothing special about any holy book.

mariovito:
Becomes a question of the infallibility of god's word.

having the holy books edited will amount to implicitly agreeing that those books are not the direct word of god which is what most religions preach

This is a catch 22 situation.

Contrary to what most modern Christians know and would rather believe, the Bible has over time been subjected to changes in both the letters and their interpretations to meet changing realities.

Islam prides itself for remaining unchanged, the Quran has largely remained unchanged and you can quite tell the difference in both religions.

That is supposed to be a good thing?

Because you are able to read does not mean that you have access to what is inside the Bible. Black people cannot understand the Bible, it is impossible.

WhiteIverson:
➜As humans evolve, what is and isn't acceptable changes. The bible is edited to align with these changes.

If you truly believe what you have written has in fact taken place — basically, the original message and intentions of the original authors have been lost— then why insist the book is of value still?

How can a book that has been altered with the times be considered to be of historical value?

BrotherJapa:
That is supposed to be a good thing?

I touched on quite a few points, which exactly are you referring to?

Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

Alterations no matter how good it will appear will end up resulting to logocal ambiguities for future references.

For instance, the example you gave "a woman must be silent " and other injustices like slavery which reflected in some other texts saying slaves should subject themselves to their masters, were common practices among people of the medieval era at the time scriptures were documented. So, omitting these scriptures now will make it appear that scriptures were never documented at the time these things were prevalent in human history, and that will just be a source of logical ambiguity

Africans that practice Islam and Christianity are so low IQ


the bible and Quran are identical and similar


both of them contribute nothing but shit



they're best used as toilet papers

The history of God's people must be preserved so that we can know where we are coming from, where we are presently and where we are going. Removing any part will make it hard to understand what led to the things we are doing today!

Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

What benefit will it add anyway, already the Bible has various translations so may not need any tampering. What matters is the principle enshrined behind its messaging rather than alter its entire messaging.
It will be good if Muslims consider your suggestions though, so they can be more accommodating of other non Arabian people in their core religious texts.

See devils wishing they could remove hellfire and all those parts which make them afraid of God's on coming punishments.

If because you devils find the bible painful under the covers of offence, and you update it, you would not be able to update it because you will find that you would have deleted everything.

So in the end you would not have updated the bible but have created your own novel.

Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

Thanks for sharing

There is definitely the need for closer study of the Scriptures, especially as we are not the original audience and so will need to have better understanding of the initial context.

For instance, the text about women being silent was to address a particular knotty issue in an early church assembly. That's where study helps like Bible dictionaries, commentaries come in handy

Same thing with the one of the lady caught in adultery. Sure, the earliest available manuscripts don't include that portion of Scripture. But it's a bit of a stretch to assume that they were added by creative editors.

Who knows: some ancient scrolls may turn up tomorrow with those verses and even more. From evidence found in Scripture, there are quite a few letters of Paul and Peter which are not available today.

In all, with the available resources today, we need to be more thorough in our personal study of Scripture. It would even protect us from deceitful doctrines of men

Thanks again for bringing this up

Kobojunkie:
1. What scriptures have been directly removed from your e-bibles?

2. Are you referring to the over 45,000 doctrines/denominations of the religion of Christianity, all of which are completely removed from the declarations contained in the book that is confirmed authored by men of Israelite descent?

3. You mean the God of Israel(and His Son Jesus Christ) who swore by His name that His one and only people are those who have the blood of Jacob in their veins?

יהוה מֶלֶךְ הָעוֹלָם

RealityKings1:
✓ יהוה מֶלֶךְ הָעוֹלָם

huh?

mariovito:
Islam prides itself for remaining unchanged, the Quran has largely remained unchanged and you can quite tell the difference in both religions.

Only the very ignorant and the lazy will believe this.

https://carm.org/islam/have-there-been-changes-to-the-quran/

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Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

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Seun:
Imagine if the Holy books could be updated? Like removing offensive verses that don't represent your religion anymore. For Christianity things like "(a woman) must be silent" and "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks" could be removed.

Before the printing press, religious books were copied by hand. The scribes took liberties with the text all the time, often at the behest of their benefactors. That's why in the NIV bible you'll see footnotes showing that there are multiple versions of a bible verse.

Some entire Bible passages were added by creative scribes. The one where Jesus saves a woman caught in adultery is an example. It's such a good story right? This shows that altering scriptural texts can be beneficial. That fabulous story has definitely saved many lives.

So why can't we improve our Holy Books? 😃

improve it to what end this time?

They should just remove the entire Christian scriptures. It is all fabrication anyway. The Tanakh can stand alone. It is very much ok. It has all we need to live in peace..