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| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 11:23am On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:Traditional religion still draws power from a source that Created all the demons you can name. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:NO! The word "CHRISTIANS" was given to disciples of Jesus who were PREACHING and TEACHING in their neighbourhood just as Jesus who claim he is the CHRIST did! Act 11:26 He gave them this assignment to connect peace lovers throughout the earth and form one big family of peace loving worshipers! Act 1:8 So if anyone is not associating with them he can't meet up with the high standard Jesus taught them! |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 11:29am On Jan 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Where exactly did you see all of these? I need to see the words "form one big family of peace loving worshippers" |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 11:30am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:If only u would leave emotions... What's the popular of christians in Nigeria? How come it's not reflecting in our society? Corruption is even in the church. Do u know the kind of politics in the church? Secular politics dey learn . Dey play. If over 90 % of students fail a course won't the lecture or teacher be called? Oga no let me talk matter. Do u know things I know? Allim saying is we should leave christians n probe Christianity. Maybe that's where the issue is |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 11:31am On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:You are still making the mistake of thinking that the Church is where Christians are |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 11:33am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:So where are they ![]() We are they supposed to be![]() ![]() |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:34am On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:It's a lie! No traditional religion can do such things they will continue to complicate issues. All spirits operates the same way because they are not related to any human so for them to serve justice all those involved must be equal before the spirit. For instance if we want any spirit be it Ṣàngó or Ògún or Ayélála to serve justice in today's political arena we must all agree to earn the same amount as salary and incentives then we will tell the god in question to strike whoever takes anything apart from what we all received EQUALLY. But in the case where you people want to pay some huge amount of money and pay others peanuts you have handcuffed the gods they will step aside watching you to do whatever you want. So from the president to those sweeping the streets all must receive the same salary and incentives after all they all pledge to serve Nigeria with all their strength. You people will say "that's not how it's done in America" so how do you practice what is not just yet you want justice from the spirits who don't know any of you? |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 11:37am On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:Christians are people that believe in Jesus AND THEN FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS "Why do you call me,`Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? (Luke 6: 46) NIV |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 11:39am On Jan 10, 2025 |
[quote author=Sirmwill post=133659040]Traditional religion still draws power from a source that Created all the demons you can name. Are you aware that Satan was called Lord in the old testament? Are u aware that according to Job Satan is a son of God? U want scriptural reference? ..... " When the sons of God gathered Satan also appeared" , if he wasn't a son of Son how did he get the memo? Why didn't God tell him to leave the meeting? Instead God communed with him n even gave him an assignment to visit Job. Oga u have shown me you don't even know the scripture |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:40am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} that's why he ordered us to go and find friends of peace in their individual home {Luke 10:6} after finding them we must baptize them as members of the group {Matthew 28:19} and inculcate in them what Jesus taught us {Matthew 28:20} that's how we are going to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 You can't find this word for word that's why you must be TAUGHT to know the significance of Christ and Christianity. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 11:40am On Jan 10, 2025 |
27. "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28. bless those who curse you, pray for those who ill-treat you. 29. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31. Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32. "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' love those who love them. 33. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' do that. 34. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' lend to`sinners', expecting to be repaid in full. 35. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. 37. "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." 39. He also told them this parable: "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40. A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher. 41. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42. How can you say to your brother,`Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 43. "No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44. Each tree is recognised by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thorn-bushes, or grapes from briers. 45. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. 46. "Why do you call me,`Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? (Luke 6: 27-46) If you have not been doing all of the above then you have never been a Christian, you have only been going to a building "called Church" |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:45am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:The purpose of true religion is to inculcate all these in the minds of members through prayer and consistent repetition. That's what makes it a RELIGION! |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 11:48am On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:You have convicted yourself. Now u have made yourself a judge . The first thing u said or did was to judge me that I was never a Christian. Oga this is not about who is or who isn't. I don't need to meet u I already know u are self righteous yet you struggle with secret sins but u still think u are special cos u don't fornicate . You don't even know yourself or love yourself. You just believe that you are in good terms with God cos u don't do some certain things yet u despise n judge people alot |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by muyico(m): 12:14pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
[quote author=recklesslove post=133658745][/quote]u re damn far from spirit realms! Woe unto a man that plucked d ground and look back Luke 9:64 But Jesus said to him, “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back [to the things left behind] is fit for the kingdom of God.” Christian Standard Bible |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Dtruthspeaker: 12:23pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:If he struggles with sins like you then he would be Cursed like you. And since you say you are fine and your juju has solved all your job and farming problems, then why are you pained when you are judged? Especially as you were the one who brought yourself to be judged And while doing that did you yourself not judge Christianity? Now you are being Judged you are complaining. Clear reason why God never answered you, so like Saul you have to resort to witchcraft. And now you have gone to witchcraft, Christians still will not rest |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:26pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Funny If you we are to do exactly what Jesus did, we are to only talk to people about Christ and his teachings and how it brings the Kingdom of God. Not to later describe the address of a "church" building for them to come so that your numbers can be more |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:34pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:I am not under the law again so I am never cursed and neither do I "struggle" with sins. Every possible curse has been finished with Christ's death and resurrection when I died with him and resurrected with him Instead, I am under grace and the Righteousness of Christ. Every effort of mine to be righteous is filthy in the sight of God. If I was practising and obeying the law,I would have been cursed because the law only leads to death But instead, I am practising the Righteousness of Jesus(Luke 6) Even if it is a way of life that is difficult to adapt to as I didn't grow up in it, I am still very conscious of my steps and actions and how in line with Jesus Commandments they are. Then with this, I can confidently call myself a Son of God because I have love and obey all the teachings of Christ which was love. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 12:34pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:There's so much sadness in your life that you believe the only thing that will make you happy or make your life make sense is to bring other people down. It's funny cos even as you read this you are in the middle of your war n tribulations yet it's fun to think you should mock someone. Shameless! You are neither hear not there. You feel making your voice heard will make you feel better. But u are so immature n foolish not to know that trials n tribulations is what gives birth to greatness. Coming from someone who doesn't have a source of livelihood I'll pass. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:36pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:Really funny 😂😂 I can now see that your problem is a very little thing. Just understanding. I am not under the law again so I am never cursed and neither do I "struggle" with sins. Every possible curse has been finished with Christ's death and resurrection when I died with him and resurrected with him Instead, I am under grace and the Righteousness of Christ. Every effort of mine to be righteous is filthy in the sight of God. If I was practising and obeying the law,I would have been cursed because the law only leads to death But instead, I am practising the Righteousness of Jesus(Luke 6) Even if it is a way of life that is difficult to adapt to as I didn't grow up in it, I am still very conscious of my steps and actions and how in line with Jesus Commandments they are. Then with this, I can confidently call myself a Son of God because I have love and obey all the teachings of Christ which was love. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:37pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:There is no sadness in his life, instead, he is totally in the Joy of God and in the love of Christ. Even you, you are still a beloved person to Jesus because you were bought with a serious price. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:39pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:If I sounded judgemental I am sorry I only did because you sounded Judgemental in your first post. You already made all your conclusions and assumed them to be right. Whereas, I saw exactly where you were lacking. And I made it known |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by recklesslove(op): 12:41pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:Nobody is coming to save you. Know this and know peace. When the universe is ready , or when you are ready for the universe it will take you through a journey that when you will know what reality is . The church cannot save you. When your awakening starts you will remember me. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:42pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:He is not in the middle of any war or tribulations It is God that he is in. He is not "neither here nor there" He is totally fixed in Christ. And!! If you believe that Trials and Tribulations gives birth to Greatness That's your belief It's a very very very bad belief Created from devil-stimulated Human thinking. According to the bible, having God, brings Greatness as the person who has God has conquered the world |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:44pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:Bro You are still making the mistake of thinking the Church is a building 😂😂 I don't need saving because I can't even be in a problem for a start. The Universe is under an authority that lives in me. The One who lives in me has been given power over everything in heaven and earth(the whole universe) |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:47pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:Instead He has already come to do the saving by dying and waking up back. What is the greatest thing one would need saving from? Is it not Death? If it is then, I should be jubilating 😄 Because the power of death has been made useless in people like me that have the power of life because "it is no longer I that Live but Christ lives in me" "Jesus is the way, the truth and THE LIFE" |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Dtruthspeaker: 12:50pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
recklesslove:The more you talk the more we can see why you are Cursed and why God never answered you. And clearly you are extremely jealous of other people's successes. And the more you talk it is clearly obvious that you are trying to make yourself feel better, unprofitable and Cursed. Which clearly proves that your Ayinala Juju and witchcraft have still not solved your Curses and problems. So insalt me all you want but your Curses and bad luck will never go away and your life will still be bitter. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Sirmwill: 12:50pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
If truly you were actually a believer of Christ, then you lacked Faith and Love and Understanding. And you lost hope, that's why you gave up. Well God is in the Character of watching people that leave him. He watches over them with love till they see the light again. Read Hosea, you would see this. So Pending the time you see the light again, I pray you see it early enough. |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Dtruthspeaker: 12:54pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:There is also the point of "He will laugh at them when their calamity comes". So it is not always that He is waiting for them to come back. Repentance has a time frame and if anyone misses it, it is bye bye forever! |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Dtruthspeaker: 12:54pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:Exactly brother. God Bless You! |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Dtruthspeaker: 1:05pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:Brother, you are still under Law. Everyone is. And The Law contains both Blessings and Curses and not just Curse which you focus on via Paul's message. So, you miss understand it. Everyone in this world is still under Law and always under Law. And even by Paul's message you can still see it to wit "Jesus saves us from the law of sin and death" to where? The Law of liberty, Peace, Healing and Life! If you still dispute then let's discuss this on a separate thread and let leave this cursed op and his thread who does not know that he is just showing that he is an example of the fulfillment of God's prophecies in Revelations |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:31pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
Sirmwill:They must love their neighbours as ourselves {Mark 12:31} and have love among themselves! John 13:34-35 In the first century our brothers meet in the homes of their fellow believers but today we build Halls where we meet for that purpose it's not called "CHURCH" but "KINGDOM HALL" First century Jews called our brothers back then "people belonging to the Way" {Act 9:2} later in Antioch people began calling us "Christians" {Act 11:26} but Jesus foresaw a bad thing Satan will do to the group {Matthew 13:25} and promised that towards the end of times angels will be sent to gather religionists according to their kinds {Matthew 13:40} that will make countless religions to claim they all belong to him {Matthew 7:21-23} but our God will start calling us by another group name once we have been separated from the rest of those to be destroyed! Isaiah 65:15 So today we are known as Jehovah's Witnesses! |
| Re: Why I Left Finally Left Christianity..... by Lifemanage: 6:20pm On Jan 10, 2025 |
DrDoc:U are definitely still lost. There is no one way to divinity |
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