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DaddyCoool:
Just use your God-given thought process. If you do you'd realize "Son of God" can only mean extention of God, God!

I have no interest to communicate with you anymore. Bye.

Truthseeker10:
Madam get lost.

Don't get lost. Stay right here and keep asking DUMB questions!😅

gohf:
now you have no analogy even in creation that shows it's agrees with such because it's a lie even nature denies yet you go against nature to believe it, why?

I want to know why you believe the trinity and Jesus is God?
Because honestly unlike the rest you are horrible as defending that nonsense so there must be another reason.

I only said Christ has to be God. What else can he be??

Truthseeker10:
So Jesus on earth was not the Almighty God? Yes or no?

He was God in the flesh only but after his ascension, he became God of all, the Almighty!!

SonofElohim1379:
Christ was fully Glorified as God by the Father after completing his works on earth.

At the mention of the name "Yeshua" all knees must bow, in heaven, on earth and below the earth and proclaim that "Yeshua" is God to the Glory of God the Father


Any more questions?

where did you see or read that Christ was glorified as God?

Please don't use your imagination to answer.

This is what is written in Philippians:2

Yet it was because of this that God raised him up to the heights of heaven and gave him a name which is above every other name, that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (9-11)

You can change it and lie all you want but the lie would never become true because many people want it to be.

SonofElohim1379:
He was God in the flesh only but after his ascension, he became God of all, the Almighty!!

So Jesus on earth was not the Almighty God? Yes or no

Truthseeker10:
I have no interest to communicate with you anymore. Bye.

Of course not because you woefully lost the argument, but at least now you KNOW - Christ is God!

DaddyCoool:
I only said Christ has to be God. What else can he be??

the son of God.

DaddyCoool:
Of course not because you woefully lost the argument, but at least now you KNOW - Christ is God!

Yes....in your imaginary concepts and flawed analogies.

gohf:
the son of God.

How can God have son. Who is the mother? Why have only one

DaddyCoool:
How can God have son. Who is the mother? Why have only one

who is the mother of Adam?

Truthseeker10:
Yes....in your imaginary concepts and flawed analogies.

I thought you weren't gonna talk to me any more😆
Did you think up anymore dumb questions.

MaxInDHouse:
Please whenever you are reading Paul's letter try to have his audience in mind.
The letter you quoted was written to the Christians who are Hebrews by birth, this people use to pray using the names of different angels that's why they have what is called the 6th and 7th book of Moses in which names of angels are written apart from the only two names found in the Bible e.g Michael and Gabriel.
So what Paul meant is that they shouldn't pray to God using the names of angels since God never introduced any to them as His son the way He introduced Jesus {Matthew 17:5} that doesn't mean angels are not God's sons {Job 38:7} neither does it mean Jesus is not one of them!

You haven't addressed the question I asked though.
I have the author's audience in mind.

The claim that Paul (or the author of Hebrews) was simply addressing a Hebrew audience accustomed to praying through angels overlooks the broader theological argument in Hebrews 1.

Hebrews 1:4-6 explicitly states: "So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs." How does this align with the claim that Jesus is "one of them"?


Angels as Sons of God:

> Job 38:7 refers to angels as "sons of God" in a general sense, but Hebrews 1:5 differentiates Jesus from angels:

"For to which of the angels did God ever say, 'You are my Son; today I have become your Father'?"

If all angels, including Michael, are sons of God, how can this verse assert that Jesus' sonship is unique?



Jesus Introduced as the Son (Matthew 17:5):

In Matthew 17:5, God declares, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him, I am well pleased. Listen to him!" This is distinct and exclusive to Jesus.

If Jesus is just another angelic being, why does God uniquely affirm Him as the Son without associating this identity with any angel?



Worship of Jesus:

> Hebrews 1:6: "And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, 'Let all God’s angels worship him.'"

Why would angels, including Michael, worship Jesus if He is merely an angelic being? Isn't worship reserved for God alone (Deuteronomy 6:13)?



Hebrews 1 emphasizes that Jesus is not merely a messenger like the angels but the Creator and Sustainer of all things (Hebrews 1:2-3).

If Jesus is Michael, how can He also be the Creator of Michael (Colossians 1:16)?



My question would therefore be:

If Hebrews 1 explicitly distinguishes Jesus as superior to all angels and uniquely identifies Him as God's Son, how can Jesus still be considered "one of them" (an angel)? How does this interpretation reconcile with the command for angels to worship Him (Hebrews 1:6)?

gohf:
who is the mother of Adam?

Adam was CREATED

DaddyCoool:
Adam was CREATED

and Jesus is not the son of God because Mary did not give birth to him?

gohf:
and Jesus is not the son of God because Mary did not give birth to him?

Christ is eternal - has ALWAYS been with the Father

DaddyCoool:
Christ is eternal - has ALWAYS been with the Father

so he never came, he never taught, he never died nor rose.

Like I said, you are not wise enough to propagate a lie. Tell me why do you believe such lies?
And don't say because it makes sense, anyone who evaluates your sensibility would disagree with you. So why do you believe

Nachmonides:
I meant that, as a whole, they tell us about geologic formations and the stories of several cultures depicting a flood.

SO because geologists found evidence of flooding in the Niger basin therefore there was a global flood? What are you smoking?

LordReed:
I already mentioned it, look up the late Bronze Age collapse.

Rumors of wars
Religious hypocrisy
Disobedience to parents
Rampant love of money
Global preaching of the goodnews

All these occured in the bronze age?

LordReed:
Quote where I said that.

Oh
Such a reply
Yet you say the big bang was uncaused

gohf:
where did you see or read that Christ was glorified as God?

Please don't use your imagination to answer.

This is what is written in Philippians:2

Yet it was because of this that God raised him up to the heights of heaven and gave him a name which is above every other name, that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (9-11)

You can change it and lie all you want but the lie would never become true because many people want it to be.

Any more questions?

gohf:
so he never came, he never taught, he never died nor rose.

Like I said, you are not wise enough to propagate a lie. Tell me why do you believe such lies?
And don't say because it makes sense, anyone who evaluates your sensibility would disagree with you. So why do you believe

I'll TEACH you patiently as I taught the other guy. All I ask is that you show some appreciation:

There is only ONE God and he has always been, and he has always been by himself. BUT he has also ALWAYS had a "son" (remember, he was by himself yet has always had a "son"}. Then some 2000 years ago a human body was prepared and this "son" dwelt in that body to accomplish some assignments on earth, after which he returned to the "Father".
If there is any part you don't understand tell me let me clarify

Aemmyjah:
Oh
Such a reply
Yet you say the big bang was uncaused

You have started lying again. LoLz.

Quote where I said the Big Bang was uncaused.

Aemmyjah:
Rumors of wars
Religious hypocrisy
Disobedience to parents
Rampant love of money
Global preaching of the goodnews

All these occured in the bronze age?

Go look at my response to Max mentioning the late Bronze Age again.

LordReed:
SO because geologists found evidence of flooding in the Niger basin therefore there was a global flood? What are you smoking?

Exactly!

Did I not tell you I don't base my faith on scientific evidences, I only told you what science has found out as to whether or not there was a global flood.

Science can say what it wants to say about the flood. I'm not claiming the flood can be scientifically proven or not.

My aim is the message the flood story is passing across, whether literal or not. It's the job of the scientists to figure things out for us scientifically.

Nachmonides:
Exactly!

Did I not tell you I don't base my faith on scientific evidences, I only told you what science has found out as to whether or not there was a global flood.

LMFAO! By Orion's beard you must be on crack. Bwahahahahahaha!

How can the flooding in a river basin be evidence of a global flood? Are you using your brain or is it the crack talking? LMAO.

Truthseeker10:
So Jesus on earth was not the Almighty God? Yes or no

I'm tired of repeating myself bro, it's either you get it or you don't.

SonofElohim1379:
I'm tired of repeating myself bro, it's either you get it or you don't.

You are not sincere enough to answer a simple question because it goes against your logic.

LordReed:
LMFAO! By Orion's beard you must be on crack. Bwahahahahahaha!

How can the flooding in a river basin be evidence of a global flood? Are you using your brain or is it the crack talking? LMAO.

Lol, I'm also laughing at the science of it.

We're literally on the same page on that.
I don't also believe it.

Truthseeker10:
The diagram is clear. GOD consist of three Persons (the Father, the son, the holy spirit) simultaneously. The three persons combine simultaneously to form the word 'GOD'. The diagram shows that there cannot be a 'GOD' without the three persons combining.

No, the did not say that the father, Son and Holy Spirit are parts of God. Rather the father is God, the Spirit is God and the Son is God.

Steep:
No, the did not say that the father, Son and Holy Spirit are parts of God. Rather the father is God, the Spirit is God and the Son is God.

What is the meaning of the word 'GOD' that is in the middle of the diagram?

How many persons combine to form the word one 'GOD' in the middle of the diagram?