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Aemmyjah:
Lol
You are slow of reasoning

Be honest, all your life have you ever heard "rumors of wars"? It only made sense when info was by mouth - when there were no tv, radio, internet

MaxInDHouse:
His role in the salvation plan is CHRIST which means the anointed one.

Israelites have been expecting this saviour from the time God promised them through Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The others who have roles to play besides Jesus are humans that welcome and acknowledge him as the Christ {Matthew 19:28} his teaching and do the work he gave them {Matthew 16:18-19; 28:19-20} in fact they are going to have great names the type that even spirit sons of God (angels) never had {Revelations 12:14} after this twelve 144,000 who also got baptism of holy spirit will become corulers with them {Revelations 14:1} they are all going to live with Jesus in heaven! John 14:6

The rest of obedient mankind will enjoy God's everlasting blessings on planet earth under the heavenly government of Christ and his 144,000 corulers! Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11,29

Please ignore the gohf guy he has nothing to do with what you and i are discussing.

why are you mentioning me?

DaddyCoool:
Be honest, all your life have you ever heard "rumors of wars"? It only made sense when info was by mouth - when there were no tv, radio, internet

even in this Nigerian before buhari won, if good luck wins there will be war and after tinubu won, rumor of biafran war
Are you not a politician or you didn't hear the rumors

gohf:
why are you mentioning me?

To alert Nachmonides that you're not of our faith!

Steep:
God is three persons at the same time.

John.3.34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.

1. So God gave God to God without measure? 😏

And when God was his second person he died and gave himself back to his first person God so that his third person can come.

2. So God changed Himself to three forms or He was always three forms. If He was always three forms so then why did He say only He is God? Why is God not differentiated anywhere in scripture as God the Father, God the Spirit why did He only reveal Himself has One God and even gave commandments in line with thay revelation?

MaxInDHouse:
To alert Nachmonides that you're not of our faith!

oh okay, I suspected you both didn't have true faith in God nor His son, Jesus Christ but you should speak for yourself

Didn't know nachmonides was secretly JW

gohf:
oh okay, I suspected you both didn't have true faith in God nor His son, Jesus Christ but you should speak for yourself

We have our TEACHERS so if you're not learning from the same source it's OK you're entitled to your opinion about us.

Aemmyjah is one of my brothers he will speak the same thing myself and him learn from the same source.

Thank you!

gohf:
even in this Nigerian before buhari won, if good luck wins there will be war and after tinubu won, rumor of biafran war
Are you not a politician or you didn't hear the rumors

You are confusing "possibility of war" with "rumors of ongoing wars" which was clearly what the Bible meant.
*Dictionary - rumor is a circulating story of doubtful truth

gohf:
Didn't know nachmonides was secretly JW

NO!
He's now seeing the difference between oneness Jesus taught {John 17:22} and scatter scatter that's existing in all other religions claiming Christians! Luke 11:23

LordReed:
Answersingenesis.org is not a scientific journal. Find a scientific journal where Snelling's work was published.

You asked for Snelling's work that says there was a global flood. He's 'an expert'. You can find his works on scientific journals.

Image123:
You asked for Snelling's work that says there was a global flood. He's 'an expert'. You can find his works on scientific journals.

Even if there was a global flood does that mean there was a Noah that packed all animals in the world into an ark in pairs for 40 days of constant rain

MaxInDHouse:
His role in the salvation plan is CHRIST which means the anointed one.

Israelites have been expecting this saviour from the time God promised them through Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The others who have roles to play besides Jesus are humans that welcome and acknowledge him as the Christ {Matthew 19:28} his teaching and do the work he gave them {Matthew 16:18-19; 28:19-20} in fact they are going to have great names the type that even spirit sons of God (angels) never had {Revelations 12:14} after this twelve 144,000 who also got baptism of holy spirit will become corulers with them {Revelations 14:1} they are all going to live with Jesus in heaven! John 14:6

The rest of obedient mankind will enjoy God's everlasting blessings on planet earth under the heavenly government of Christ and his 144,000 corulers! Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11,29

Please ignore the gohf guy he has nothing to do with what you and i are discussing.

What is the role of the person that sent Jesus?

And what is the role of the Spirit Jesus talks about?


And are they connected in any way?—their roles?

MaxInDHouse:
To alert Nachmonides that you're not of our faith!

Haha

gohf:
oh okay, I suspected you both didn't have true faith in God nor His son, Jesus Christ but you should speak for yourself

Didn't know nachmonides was secretly JW

Haha

Image123:
You asked for Snelling's work that says there was a global flood. He's 'an expert'. You can find his works on scientific journals.

YOU post the link to his work published in a scientific journal, I am not doing your work for you.

Truthseeker10:
Does the Diagram show God in each person or it shows that God is Three persons simultaneously ?

It shows that God is three persons simultaneously.

Steep:
It shows that God is three persons simultaneously.

So where did you get your GOD in each person from?

gohf:
John.3.34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.

1. So God gave God to God without measure? 😏

And when God was his second person he died and gave himself back to his first person God so that his third person can come.

God is not changing to different persons rather God has, is and will always be three persons.

2. So God changed Himself to three forms or He was always three forms. If He was always three forms so then why did He say only He is God? Why is God not differentiated anywhere in scripture as God the Father, God the Spirit why did He only reveal Himself has One God and even gave commandments in line with thay revelation?

So who is talking of forms of God.
When God says he only is God it is with respect to other gods.
The only true God is the father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Truthseeker10:
So where did you get your GOD in each person from?

It is used as an explanation of who God is.

gohf:
so his human nature was blemish and now is without blemish 😀

Is his obedience wasn't rewarded he just went back to who he wss or where he was, basically according to you Jesus went back to take his own seat 🤥

Yes, sir. Remember, His divine nature has always been perfect and unblemished—it is unchanging and eternal. However, in His human nature, He took on sin for our sake (2 Corinthians 5:21) and was obedient even to death on the cross. His obedience and sacrifice resulted in the glorification of His human nature, which was exalted to the right hand of the Father. This wasn't about Him 'going back to where He was,' but rather, His human nature being raised and glorified as the perfect Mediator for humanity.


It all falls back to whether or not you agree with the evidences of Jesus' divinity as God, replete in scriptures.

Steep:
It is used as an explanation of who God is.

Is the expression of GOD in each person in the diagram?

Nachmonides:
Yes, sir. Remember, His divine nature has always been perfect and unblemished—it is unchanging and eternal. However, in His human nature, He took on sin for our sake (2 Corinthians 5:21) and was obedient even to death on the cross. His obedience and sacrifice resulted in the glorification of His human nature, which was exalted to the right hand of the Father. This wasn't about Him 'going back to where He was,' but rather, His human nature being raised and glorified as the perfect Mediator for humanity.


It all falls back to whether or not you agree with the evidences of Jesus' divinity as God, replete in scriptures.

Nachmonides does the diagram in the screenshot below explain the structure of trinity?

Nachmonides:
What is the role of the person that sent Jesus?
And what is the role of the Spirit Jesus talks about?
And are they connected in any way?—their roles?

Jehovah sent Jesus, his role is to support his son by sending other angels to help him anytime he needs such support and encouragement {Matthew 4:11; Luke 22:43} at times Jesus needs to hear his father's direct words of encouragement! John 12:27-28

The Holy Spirit is God's active force that's used in so many ways whatever we are using technology to achieve today God have used His active force to do greater in times past and today, for instance when Christians are about to do what Jesus taught them in situations that's not palatable God uses His active force to supply them with power beyond what is normal {2Corinthians 4:7} it's also this spirit that's used to remind or teach them what to do in tight situations! John 14:26-27; 16:12-13

Jehovah is the Almighty God, Jesus is the human who perfectly reflects all the good qualities we need to know about our heavenly Father and God's Holy Spirit is the Active force God uses to help and support all His worshipers.

Whoever knows this is qualified to get baptized as one of us! Matthew 28:19

Nachmonides:
Yes, sir. Remember, His divine nature has always been perfect and unblemished—it is unchanging and eternal. However, in His human nature, He took on sin for our sake (2 Corinthians 5:21) and was obedient even to death on the cross. His obedience and sacrifice resulted in the glorification of His human nature, which was exalted to the right hand of the Father. This wasn't about Him 'going back to where He was,' but rather, His human nature being raised and glorified as the perfect Mediator for humanity.


It all falls back to whether or not you agree with the evidences of Jesus' divinity as God, replete in scriptures.

is that so

Steep:
God is not changing to different persons rather God has, is and will always be three persons.

So who is talking of forms of God.
When God says he only is God it is with respect to other gods.
The only true God is the father, Son and Holy Spirit.

hmm, okay

DaddyCoool:
Even if there was a global flood does that mean there was a Noah that packed all animals in the world into an ark in pairs for 40 days of constant rain

Lol, jumping to the next point after seeing the possibilities of a global flood. Sorry, i don't have the headache of unbelief.

Image123:
Lol, jumping to the next point after seeing the possibilities of a global flood. Sorry, i don't have the headache of unbelief.

I said EVEN IF there was. Sometimes you just need to ask questions, like what were the lions, hoppos, and crocodiles eating inside an ark for 40 days?!

DaddyCoool:
I said EVEN IF there was. Sometimes you just need to ask questions, like what were the lions, hoppos, and crocodiles eating inside an ark for 40 days?!

What were they eating when they were still dust before God created them?

Surely the one who created these creatures can keep them without food for a purpose!

Truthseeker10:
Nachmonides does the diagram in the screenshot below explain the structure of trinity?

While the diagram is helpful, it is not exhaustive and serves as a tool to aid understanding rather than a complete explanation of the Trinity.

LordReed:
YOU post the link to his work published in a scientific journal, I am not doing your work for you.

Lol, it's not my work, you asked me to produce Snelling's work that says there was a global flood. Then you somehow gave the excuse that Answersingenesis.org is not a scientific journal. You initially asked for an expert in geology. Snelling is an expert in Geology with a Ph.D and published articles in scientific journals which you claimed to be the usual benchmark for experts. A si,ple google or wikipedia search will show you some of his scientific words.
Are you saying that he is not an expert, or that anything he says outside scientific journals is not expert enough?

Nonetheless, i will give you links to his works published in a scientific journal, although i know your rigmarole.
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Andrew-A-Snelling-2009962514

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=133680929]Jehovah sent Jesus, his role is to support his son by sending other angels to help him anytime he needs such support and encouragement {Matthew 4:11; Luke 22:43} at times Jesus needs to hear his father's direct words of encouragement! John 12:27-28

The Holy Spirit is God's active force that's used in so many ways whatever we are using technology to achieve today God have used His active force to do greater in times past and today, for instance when Christians are about to do what Jesus taught them in situations that's not palatable God uses His active force to supply them with power beyond what is normal {2Corinthians 4:7} it's also this spirit that's used to remind or teach them what to do in tight situations! John 14:26-27; 16:12-13

Jehovah is the Almighty God, Jesus is the human who perfectly reflects all the good qualities we need to know about our heavenly Father and God's Holy Spirit is the Active force God uses to help and support all His worshipers.

Whoever knows this is qualified to get baptized as one of us! Matthew 28:19[/quote
Thank you for your detailed responses as always, again, Max.


Regarding the Nature of the Holy Spirit

1. If the Holy Spirit is merely God's "active force," why does Scripture describe Him with personal attributes like speaking (Acts 13:2), teaching (John 14:26), and being grieved (Ephesians 4:30)?

Active forces like electricity or wind cannot express emotions or engage in conversation.



2. Why does Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as "He" (a personal pronoun) in John 16:13-14?

This indicates personhood, not an impersonal force.

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah sent Jesus, his role is to support his son by sending other angels to help him anytime he needs such support and encouragement {Matthew 4:11; Luke 22:43} at times Jesus needs to hear his father's direct words of encouragement! John 12:27-28

The Holy Spirit is God's active force that's used in so many ways whatever we are using technology to achieve today God have used His active force to do greater in times past and today, for instance when Christians are about to do what Jesus taught them in situations that's not palatable God uses His active force to supply them with power beyond what is normal {2Corinthians 4:7} it's also this spirit that's used to remind or teach them what to do in tight situations! John 14:26-27; 16:12-13

Jehovah is the Almighty God, Jesus is the human who perfectly reflects all the good qualities we need to know about our heavenly Father and God's Holy Spirit is the Active force God uses to help and support all His worshipers.

Whoever knows this is qualified to get baptized as one of us! Matthew 28:19

Regarding the Nature of the Holy Spirit

1. If the Holy Spirit is merely God's "active force," why does Scripture describe Him with personal attributes like speaking (Acts 13:2), teaching (John 14:26), and being grieved (Ephesians 4:30)?

Active forces like electricity or wind cannot express emotions or engage in conversation.



2. Why does Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as "He" (a personal pronoun) in John 16:13-14?

This indicates personhood, not an impersonal force.