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I am an atheist agnostic, you can't brainwash me.

Slaves who worship the gods of their colonizers and slave masters.

Krismas:
Try me! Are u?
U know, i actually once saw a man, literally hacking at his own stomach with a sword, yet he was unharmed!
But convincing a friend about the experience is about the most unsuccessful thing I've ever done
Too much doubt is just as silly as too much belief.
As Aristotle would say, VIRTUE LIES IN THE MIDDLE

Yes I'm a unicorn. Matter of fact, I'm typing this message with my hooves

jaephoenix:
Yes I'm a unicorn. Matter of fact, I'm typing this message with my hooves

Then be my guest!
Afterall, why should i argue your name is jaephonix?
A man is what he calls himself

Then both of u are born dingbats

Then both of u are born dingbats

Biggeststar01:
Delusions like?

Like anyone you can imagine

it is high time we correct this notion, you are not worshipping God for earthly gains and comfort but Ultimately to gain Heaven

Namaster:
This analogy is NONSENSE!

It's one thing for your wealthy parents to REFUSE to sponsor your wedding to a second wife. You can grumble and throw tantrums if they DON'T answer that request and still consider them your parents.

But if your father was a WORLD-CLASS Oncologist who owns and controls a TOP-TIER cancer treatment centre with TOP-OF-THE-LINE equipment and CUTTING-EDGE procedures YET he blatantly refuses to treat your 3-year old daughter with lung cancer.

That's ANOTHER thing entirely.

He watches you suffer watching your child immersed in unbearable AGONY and he does NOTHING.

Instead he strokes his beards and tells you to TRUST that he LOVES you very much. And that he has a GOOD reason for abandoning your little child to die a SLOW and EXCRUCIATING death.

You are justified to say a father like that is DEAD to you, i.e does NOT exist.

I shouldn't quote the entire post, but it is just so brilliant to be hidden. Thank you for this brilliance. I hope we will have more people who think this way.

jaephoenix:
So he hates me then. I'm butt-hurt

However you came up with that assumption only you know

Electorate:
I am glad you admitted you were nowhere before you were born and that you were made from your pop's sperm and mom's egg. and that they fused and formed you...I cleverly made you admit this yourself so I can ask you the big question. If creating humans have been ongoing through this process for centuries from the first man, how then was the first man created? Please and please don't refer back to some scientific bullshitt after telling us the process of how you were born.



It doesn't bother me an inch if you are foolish enough to think there is no God that everything just happened by chance like water remaining suspended in the sky after the earth is heated up and pours out rain when it feels like...I am sensible enough to experience God's presence and just because you haven't doesn't make my experience invalid. You can enjoy your frustrations with doubt of God's existence while I submerged myself into the blossom of God's presence in peace.



Who now created or formed the family or community of beings since you think it wasn't just one God? You can see how foolish you sound in your wiseness.

Some of you and your thought pattern scares me.
If you understand the theory of evolution, you would know that there was never a “first man” or a “first chicken” or even a first rat.
Man is simply the term we assigned to the bipedal hominids that walked the earth from 200,000 to 300,000 years ago. We evolved from an evolutionary ancestor and we continue evolving. There are no definite stages of evolution. There’s no point in evolution where we could say that Homo erectus evolved into Homo sapiens, that kind of reasoning is incongruent with the whole idea of evolution. We call this version of primates humans because that’s what we found. That’s what we are. There was never a first human. Unless you don’t accept evolution, if this is the case, then I see no use going further in this conversation.

Secondly, if you insist that just because people haven’t experienced something doesn’t change the reality of its existence, this also applies to you as well. Just because you have experienced something doesn’t mean it’s real either. Human experience is a terrible source of evidence. There are a plethora of symptoms that can alter our perception of reality. It’s only normal for humans to believe what they thought they might have seen regardless of facts. And the fact is that there is no evidence for any god. No single shred.

Lastly, who tf gave you authority to decide who created what? You claim it’s one god, the person you’re replying to says it could be more than one. Your claim is just as valid as his in that neither of you can provide a single shred of evidence that your assertions are correct.

BTW. An atheist is not someone who claims that there is no god. Rather, an atheist is someone who lacks belief in any gods. They simply have no use for the concept. They don’t deny it, it’s not a fact, it’s a belief.

jaephoenix:
What is your purpose on earth and how did u know that? Is ur purpose the same as everyone else's?

My purpose is a journey of growth and transformation. I aspire to create a legacy of love and respect, hoping that my life will inspire others to live with purpose and treat one another with respect and compassion.

The core purpose of loving God and serving others is universal among Christians, but the paths we take to fulfill that purpose can vary significantly. Each of us has unique experiences, gifts, and passions that shape our individual journeys.

Dtruthspeaker:
Not when you are not His child and He has been courting you since but you rejected Him.

And seeing how He answered His children and servants immediately, it clearly means THAT, THAT CHILD WAS NEVER HIS IN THE FIRST PLACE

After all these, now you are asking for favours, YOU MUST BE MAD!

Go to your own father's hospital and heal yourself

Na so.
If it goes well, give the credit to God. If it turns out bad, blame the person.

You’re meant to save a friend from the chains of religion. Atheism was freedom.

Namaster:
This analogy is NONSENSE!

It's one thing for your wealthy parents to REFUSE to sponsor your wedding to a second wife. You can grumble and throw tantrums if they DON'T answer that request and still consider them your parents.

But if your father was a WORLD-CLASS Oncologist who owns and controls a TOP-TIER cancer treatment centre with TOP-OF-THE-LINE equipment and CUTTING-EDGE procedures YET he blatantly refuses to treat your 3-year old daughter with lung cancer.

That's ANOTHER thing entirely.

He watches you suffer watching your child immersed in unbearable AGONY and he does NOTHING.

Instead he strokes his beards and tells you to TRUST that he LOVES you very much. And that he has a GOOD reason for abandoning your little child to die a SLOW and EXCRUCIATING death.

You are justified to say a father like that is DEAD to you, i.e does NOT exist.

Lols

Analogy busted...

Just throwing comparisons about and comparing an omnipotent and all-seeing energy being with too excess power with a weak human with too many limitations seems like a good example to some, not to me though...

At the end of it all, every believer will always find a reason to convince themselves of their beliefs no matter how absurd. It's all self induced deceit....

Glory to God

What's wrong with becoming an atheist?

Is there any evidence that any God exist? No,
Religion is the chain and bondage and not atheism

Biggeststar01:
Some of you and your thought pattern scares me.
If you understand the theory of evolution, you would know that there was never a “first man” or a “first chicken” or even a first rat.
Man is simply the term we assigned to the bipedal hominids that walked the earth from 200,000 to 300,000 years ago. We evolved from an evolutionary ancestor and we continue evolving. There are no definite stages of evolution. There’s no point in evolution where we could say that Homo erectus evolved into Homo sapiens, that kind of reasoning is incongruent with the whole idea of evolution. We call this version of primates humans because that’s what we found. That’s what we are. There was never a first human. Unless you don’t accept evolution, if this is the case, then I see no use going further in this conversation.

Secondly, if you insist that just because people haven’t experienced something doesn’t change the reality of its existence, this also applies to you as well. Just because you have experienced something doesn’t mean it’s real either. Human experience is a terrible source of evidence. There are a plethora of symptoms that can alter our perception of reality. It’s only normal for humans to believe what they thought they might have seen regardless of facts. And the fact is that there is no evidence for any god. No single shred.

Lastly, who tf gave you authority to decide who created what? You claim it’s one god, the person you’re replying to says it could be more than one. Your claim is just as valid as his in that neither of you can provide a single shred of evidence that your assertions are correct.

BTW. An atheist is not someone who claims that there is no god. Rather, an atheist is someone who lacks belief in any gods. They simply have no use for the concept. They don’t deny it, it’s not a fact, it’s a belief.

Interesting!
Permit me the assumption that Darwin will be disappointed by many points of yours.
U see, evolution itself, is triggered by the need to adapt for the sheer sake of survival. as such, its inconceivable not to have a 'first man' , first human or clear periods of transitions.
As for gods, am curious as to why anyone denies their existence, inspite of their obvious presence?
gods are persons, places or things people worship. And they are without doubt, concrete enough.

correctguy101:
Lols

Analogy busted...

Just throwing comparisons about and comparing an omnipotent and all-seeing energy being with too excess power with a weak human with too many limitations seems like a good example to some, not to me though...

At the end of it all, every believer will always find a reason to convince themselves of their beliefs no matter how absurd. It's all self induced deceit....

This does not explain why an all-powerful god, stood by, doing nothing, while Sunny Okosun, died of throat cancer.
Inspite his repeated search for miracle with renowned ministers around the globe

Krismas:
Then be my guest!
Afterall, why should i argue your name is jaephonix?
A man is what he calls himself

Thank you

Proudlyngwa:
However you came up with that assumption only you know

Well you said yhwh would reveal himself to me. And I replied that he hadn't done so since I questioned his existence for nearly 20 years, meaning he hates me and doesn't want to save me

Krismas:
Interesting!
Permit me the assumption that Darwin will be disappointed by many points of yours.
U see, evolution itself, is triggered by the need to adapt for the sheer sake of survival. as such, its inconceivable not to have a 'first man' , first human or clear periods of transitions.
As for gods, am curious as to why anyone denies their existence, inspite of their obvious presence?
gods are persons, places or things people worship. And they are without doubt, concrete enough.

Disagree. You see, scientists don’t even have a clear definition of what a human is. The Neanderthals, they exhibit similar behaviors and also posses similar corporeal features as we humans, however many scientists will not refer to a Neanderthal as “human”. The definition apropos of what a human is, is still up in the air.
If you think there’s a first human you could go ahead and Google what the first human looked like. If you do your research properly you would find that species change from time to time and evolution is an ever occurring process. There’s no destination. Unless we assign one from an anthropocentrist’s perspective.

But as far as evolution is concerned, there are no definite stages in evolution where we could point to a first member of a new species. Google is your friend.

I’m not an authority in the field, just a curious researcher.

As for your second paragraph, I won’t go into that. I don’t argue with assumptions.

Merry100:
God didn't ask us to depend on miracles to live our lives; in fact, miracles are majorly to make unbelievers believe in God. God has given us brains to handle situations. One should pray and expect a miracle mainly when the situation is beyond human effort.

You might believe your situation is a case of luck, but mine is a miracle. I prayed, and God answered me.

BafanaBafana:
Na so.
If it goes well, give the credit to God. If it turns out bad, blame the person.

You don forget say many people dey ungrateful? No b dem dey blame dia papa for D little time hin talk no for something wey dem bin want, to the point you go wonder wia D pikin come from? Abeg leave human beings bo.

Semaj77:
So from your premise , every child or person who has suffered agonizing pain and died from it isn't really serving God You must be a very terrible person to say this

My premise did not contain "every".

Yea, you just brainwashed him into believing in some fairytale God, heaven and rubbish.

Me too.

Merry100:
Your mentality proves that the women you surround yourself with are cheap, but don't pin that shit on others.

I often wonder why some people feel the need to project their own issues onto others. This might come as a shock to someone with your kind of mentality, but the fact is that I am a virgin.

Merry100:
My purpose is a journey of growth and transformation. I aspire to create a legacy of love and respect, hoping that my life will inspire others to live with purpose and treat one another with respect and compassion.

The core purpose of loving God and serving others is universal among Christians, but the paths we take to fulfill that purpose can vary significantly. Each of us has unique experiences, gifts, and passions that shape our individual journeys.

So yhwh created us to love him? And if we don't, he burns us to a right ol' crisp? But he knew I'll be an atheist when before he created me but would still went ahead to burn me if I don't believe

FUVK YOU

Biggeststar01:
Disagree. You see, scientists don’t even have a clear definition of what a human is. The Neanderthals, they exhibit similar behaviors and also posses similar corporeal features as we humans, however many scientists will not refer to a Neanderthal as “human”. The definition apropos of what a human is, is still up in the air.
If you think there’s a first human you could go ahead and Google what the first human looked like. If you do your research properly you would find that species change from time to time and evolution is an ever occurring process. There’s no destination. Unless we assign one from an anthropocentrist’s perspective.

But as far as evolution is concerned, there are no definite stages in evolution where we could point to a first member of a new species. Google is your friend.

I’m not an authority in the field, just a curious researcher.

As for your second paragraph, I won’t go into that. I don’t argue with assumptions.

well then, permit me to introduce to u the face of the Australopithecus

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-face-of-the-earliest-human-ancestor-revealed/

jaephoenix:
My verses say a different thing from what yours say. What does it make your bible?
A book where one verse can mean multiple things. One book spawning thousands of denoms, each claiming the other would burn to a crisp just cos they believe a wrong version of the same god

No. It just simply means that you do NOT understand the Bible holistically. I guess you have sat under pastors who preach one-sided gospels to Deceive you.
Jesus said:

A man's Life does not consist of the abundance of what materials possessions he has acquired.
Luk 12:15:
"And he said to them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consists not in the abundance of the things which he possesses."


The letters kill but the Spirit gives life.


Have a nice day!

Biggeststar01:
See how religion has completely suppressed your critical thinking skills.

The person you’re replying to never said that he was the one asking for a miracle. There are countless Cristians asking the Christian god for a miracle right now, and their prayers will not be answered. Some pray for healing, some pray for financial resuscitation, some pray for protection. And a lot of them will leave empty. Even worse is that, many of them, according to some Christian doctrines, will eventually go to hell for being born into the wrong denomination and praying to the wrong version of the true god.

This is not an attempt to defame or besmirch the reputation of your God, the argument of evil and suffering is simply pointing out that there is so much suffering in the world, that the entire basis of life itself is based on the suffering of one life in order to preserve another. Mosquitoes need our blood to survive, they feed on the most vulnerable and infect them with diseases, most times eventually killing them. There are insects that have to paralyze other animals, and feed on them alive, lay their eggs in them and make their children feed on the paralyzed animal until it dies. There’s also the Guinea worm, an organism whose whole purpose is to get into the eyes of human children and eat their eyes, painfully and slowly turning them blind.

Every kind of suffering and pain you can imagine, exists. This begs the question, Why? Why create all of this? For what purpose? This is not to make an argument that god exists and that he is evil, it just expresses that the belief in the theistic god is inconsistent with rationality and morality. Have you ever ask why such things happen? Or you’re only concerned about how these things haven’t happened to you or your family?

When you start asking the real questions, you find that believing in a god is utter insanity. The wars and genocides that have been motivated and encouraged by different religious dogmas. The hiddenness of god that is a major problem as it has caused every culture to create their own version of god and pass it down either through propaganda, oral recounting, or violence.

Nobody hate your god. Atheists just don’t care for it.

Nature already tells everyone that people always speak from personal positions which is proven by his responses.

Secondly, you ended up tying all the issues you are interested in and landing on your own personal issue which is the bold.

And the answer to that question is even before you eg see how you bad the world is today that you people are even running away from family, so called friends, marriage ? What caused it? Because you people are evil

And God warned you all to stop doing and being evil, "that evil may not increase in the land" but you didn't.

Now you are complaining that the earth is killing you with sickness and death and all of these things were not there at the beginning. As you see it is after Noah that He Commands animals that if they kill man, they would answer to Him.

So people are only eating the fruits they have planted, so nobody should disturb God.

And of course, when your girlfriend or wife behaves badly, do you not hide (ghost) them and cast them out?

And when you don't care about a thing eg people don't care about aliens, you don't have time talking rubbish all day about them. So atheists are simply God haters and supporters of evil as many threads have shown.

Indifferent12:
Are you seriously, even if a father and child is beefing, if the child need help the father will always step in.

Omo, u guys really defending god wickedness, well he doesn’t exist sha

Not when you have crossed that Line where no reasonable person no matter how over good that person is, will ever touch you eg a son who sleeps with his father's wife, who has not said "it's over. you are finished and you are irredeemably Cursed and Damned" even if the child is burning in a car accident?

And you people are funny o. You are the ones who call a person fool for forgiving a cheating wife, now you are still the one calling God wicked for not helping a sinner. A very good reason why He should not be around to help any of you, you don't deserve it.